Why don't Disney just make an African Disney princess? Not shit like racebending, actual princess from Africa.
Why don't Disney just make an African Disney princess? Not shit like racebending, actual princess from Africa.
Why don't Disney just make an African Disney princess? Not shit like racebending, actual princess from Africa.
imagine the opening song from Beauty and the Beast, but it's a Black person girl in the Bronx.
>HEY GURL
>YO GURL
I mean they literally did that shit with mermaid
?
I was about to send this!!!
It's probably the most racist thing I've seen yet it's produced by a black queer drag queen. The quality is also really good.
The bit with the baby is the best.
This is peak 2010s YouTube.
Most of the shit they do to "promote" black people is actually about attacking white people, black interests themselves are an afterthought at best. If they adapted some African folk tale and cast a bunch of attractive black people in it none of their goals would be accomplished, so instead they're going to take another white character, cast the ugliest black they can find to play them, and go from there.
It's because urban Whites would genuinely feel uncomfortable about seeing a movie with a full White cast.
It's not attacking you, it's presenting the Urban multicultural "culture" which is itself a bastardization of White culture.
No such thing as “whites culture”. That’s an American creation to remove European individuality.
And there isn't a black culture either, for the same reason.
Well yeah anglos intentionally made slaves take Anglo names
Blacks exist outside america, you know?
“White culture” and “black culture” are American things.
Wrong, liar
Oh, angry ape... black fragility at its finest
Yea, but Disney doesn't care about them. They either use Black American culture or make stuff up (Black Panther)
So where the "america makes movie for the entire wolrd" cope comes from then?
You can't fine the demographics they try to push in any country, not even America
>So where does the "america makes movie for the entire world" cope comes from then?
Idk.
There's no such thing as culture
>That’s an American creation to remove European individuality.
Based.
Our "white culture" here in the Upper Midwest is an offshoot of German and Norwegian traditions. It's not "huwhite" it's Nordic and Germanic.
>It's because urban Whites would genuinely feel uncomfortable about seeing a movie with a full White cast.
nonsense. Titanic
That was 25 years ago.
Not an argument
STFU racist israelite, we don't want to see others
What a stupid post.
this is completely false, people that make reviews make this argument about the cast being too white, but average theater goers do not
hopefully you get shot to death
This. Disney only cares about African Americans and not actual Africans or their cultures. Why are they even called African Americans anyway? They have no connection to the continent.
They also uglywash/blackwash existing characters to renew copyright on them
This. There are many hot black girls, but they keep casting the ugly ones.
On the one hand it's
On the other hand (American, UK) blacks themselves don't want shit that's made for blacks, they want shit that's made for whites which is seen as superior quality. Black rappers don't eat fried chicken or gumbo but rich white people food. The only exception is if something is made-for-blacks and heavily marketed as being superior to comparative for-whites product, such as Black Panther but that's few and far between.
So it's an issue on both ends as creators don't want to make an authentic black product while black audiences don't want an authentic black product
most african americans never had a plate of gumbo in their entire life, that's why you moron, the destruction of the black family created single mother households and that meant that many of them wouldn't get their traditions passed down correctly, if a single mother had only males then they wouldn't learn the recipe of gumbo and the kids of their kids wouldn't learn it as well, that's why all these african american recipes survived with the cajuns because those have secular families
>most african americans never had a plate of gumbo in their entire life
Why come here and say moronic shit like this? They even sold gumbo at Popeyes at one point.
This is just wrong. Giving credit where it's due, neither Soul or Princess and the Frog employ any "devalue one group of people to uplift another" tactics. There's one line in PATF that alludes to racism but it's more amusing than anything. What I have noticed is how differently they write male and female characters in their more recent films. The stories that revolves around the male characters tend to be more around personal growth and resolving trauma, while with the female ones it's moreso only the latter. They don't really have much room for growth and it's kind of boring. You can't just have a female character who is a bumbling silly immature idiot; they have to be "normal" or more stoic and collected. When more of the male characters' stories center around personal growth and becoming more mature I don't know if that's sending a good signal to girls/women. They are just as capable of being emotionally immature as men. There are exceptions to the trend like (checks google) Namaari, or the father in Turning Red providing some insight to the protagonist after seemingly being aloof (the female characters in Turning Red are also fun and goofy in general), but the limitations for how Disney's new female characters are written are still very noticable and sus. One of the best female Disney characters is Yzma and she is just a straight up evil b***h lol.
Not Disney but I thought it was completely delusional of people to write off the Mario movie as something feminist, since I would imagine most hardcore feminists would be more disappointed that Peach didn't get any sort of arc or character development, she was just there. Whereas the brothers have that bumbling buffoon nature at the beginning and grow into badasses that save the day, notably proving themselves to their father, by the end. There's a lot more nuance to the dynamics than GIRLBOSS GOOD, YASS QUEEN GOOD, WHITE MAN BAD
I didn't read the whole thread btw and but yes it would be cool if they made an actual African princess movie. Ooga booga bixnood or whatever but the opportunities for music alone have vast kino potential
Yeah honestly, I think I'd rather have Mario and Peach be the stars than Mario and Luigi. If Luigi was more prominent you just know there'd be some obligatory kids movie drama where they get into an argument and make up ten minutes later. Oh well, they can save that for the sequel. But Peach is noticably characterized in a different way than she was in the games. She doesn't really experience an arc but she is more empowered so people were definitely going to interpret that as hardcore feminism. Thankfully she wasn't a girl boss showing Mario up.
Yeah I watched the movie recently and it wasn't the feminist girl boss trope, it was just Peach having some character, hell she's the one that start to flirt with Mario that's basically a loser plumber working with his brother and living with his parents, I found Donkey Kong much more unappealing specially for the voice actor and for making it into some butthole that just hate Mario for no reason
>Seth Rogan DK sucked
Cranky was worse. At least with DK I can see him sounding/talking like dumb stoner with a unique laugh. Armisen's Cranky just plain sucked. Way waaay too lackadaisical. Not cranky enough. No
>back in my day we had to blow into our cartridges 15 miles uphill both ways to get them to work
style old man b***hing. b***h didn't even threaten to bonk DK on the head with his cane. Illumination's Cranky is Cranky in name only.
The movie was about her. She was the protagonist who drove the action. Mario was an afterthought in his own movie. Cope harder.
This is a very well thought out post, you are obviously someone capable of making rational, measured assessments and putting them into words in a convincing manner.
And yet you display a knowledge of disney IPs that no living man should have.
True. I noticed a lot of "black movies" aren't just good movies that happen to have black actors, it's always focusing on the fact that they're black and obsessing over oppression nonstop. You never see all white movies pull that nonsense.
the "movies made by blacks for blacks" touch on racism sometimes, but the "hollywood movies made by blacks for a general audience" are always preachy as frick
then there's tariq and his sexual fantasies
>it's always focusing on the fact that they're black and obsessing over oppression nonstop
Watch better black flicks. Friday is the goat
friday friday gotta get down on friday
>I know you don't smoke weed, I know this; but I'm gonna get you high today, 'cause it's Friday; you ain't got no job... and you ain't got shit to do.
Tiana worked due to the setting. The problem with that one was more the prince, who was clearly supposed to be some white boy but they didn't want the first black princess getting BLEACH'D.
The problem with Princess and The Frog was that it tried to be too many things between the return to 2D princess films, the first black princess, the post-Katrina New Orleans setting, and the obscure fairy tale that wasn't the frog prince which everyone was more familiar with. Ended up being a total mess that didn't resonate with any audiences.
They needed to pick like 2 of those things, max. Like, do a black princess movie in New Orleans but it's a retelling of Cinderella, or do The Princess and The Frog but it's set in a European kingdom and the princess was a blonde girl, etc etc etc.
They needed to pick li
They shoulda just stuck with the New Orleans setting. It's such a visually distictive city with rich history and culture, and we spend 90% of the movie in a fricking swamp. What the frick were they thinking? Literally all people care about that movie anyway are the New Orleans scenes.
Tiana its not only a shit movie where the only good thing was the villain, also they made a movie about blacks using the backstory of a white story to then transform the blacks into fricking frogs, like if you are already taking a story to raceswap it atleast be honest don't turn your characters into animals for the 95% of the movie
>don't turn your characters into animals for the 95% of the movie
Yep. I was expecting her and the frog to go on some journey, but they both became frogs. This movie should be called the frog and the frog
Tiana didn't work - Black folk b***hed and moaned that Tiana wasn't "black enough"
>hur skin too lite, hur nose too smol, y she got dat gud hurr, my hurr ain dat gud! y she workin so hard? shukin an jivin fo dem wypipo, shieeeeeet
Honestly even when I was a kid watching this movie I thought the frog part was unnecessary and that it could've stayed the same if the characters remained human
The royal lineage of Ethiopia alone should provide a wealth of example characters if you want to tie it to something historical.
>slaveholding divine autocracy
Uhhh... a little problematic, don't you think?
>Uhhh... a little problematic, don't you think?
Well there's frickall else to use for settings that wasn't up to there eyeballs in slavery, Africans fricking loved slavery, they built there economies around it. So you have two options
>option A
>"The Woman King"
Complete historical whitewash route, try to shove all the slavery under the rug and recast whitey as the bad guy. No one buys it, it looked stupid, and actual africans who knew there own history where offended.
>option B
>Wakanda a.k.a "homieh's in space!"
you toss history out the window, which is fine since American blacks don't know a fricking thing about africa anyways, and will actually believe it's real.
Princess and the frog is a great alternative imho, one of my favorite Disney movies before it went to complete shit
Wouldn't be as profitable. Basically what
said.
Africans never evolved enough to have Kangdoms
Because it wouldn't be subversive and require actual talent.
Because Africa really hasn’t had any black ‘princesses’ of note.
Not like the majority of the Disney princesses are real people anyway
Groids like to be portrayed as kings not as kangz
Because liberals played themselves, they cried so hard about resident evil 5 nobody was willing to touch the continent again
Resident Evil 5 is great if you use Sheva as a suitcase.
God that was so fricking stupid.
Resident Evil 4
>Leon only kills ethnic Spaniards because he's in Spain
>*crickets*
Resident Evil 5
>Chris and Sheva only kill ethnic Africans because they're in Africa
>every homosexual left of center has a coonniption fit
there is a 100% chance that you morons would still get assblasted and call it woke
You keep saying that but you can never prove it.
you people cried every fricking day when black panther, a completely african character, was being filmed and released.
Black Panther was always black. People complained becaue they pleyed the race card in the marketing and to "punish" uninmpressed people. I know this and I didn't even follow that shit since I don't watch marvel slop.
All the negligible push back was, as always, caused by YOU.
Basically you are a cretin and your strawmen are worthless
so you admit that you morons cried for almost an entire year when black panther was being filmed and released then right
No. But I'll admit here and now that you cannot read or meme
btfo once again
The only "crying" about it was how BP proclaimed to be diverse but it was almost 100% black.
Seems like a valid complaint.
If it's like "The Warriorn Queen" which completely re-writes history to depict one of the largest African slaver tribes as the "victim of whitey," then yeah it'll get rightfully blasted. If it's honest, then I'd respect it.
"Honest" = "Sucks off Europeans"
Dobn't blame me because it took whitey going to Africa to kick the shit out of the source of the slave trade because blacks weren't gonna stop something they've done for eons on their own.
>I'm not racist. I would be fine with an African story about how white people tried to civilize those savages
>history is racist!
They honestly believe that. These are same people that believe that the various Indian tribes lived in harmony before Europeans arrived in the Americas. No amount of mass graves from 800 years ago showing brutal massacres of one tribe by another will change their minds.
Shut the frick up you intellectually dishonest, limp dicked troony fellating giga homosexual
The next Disney princess movie stars a black girl. It's not woke, it's just openly racist. It's set during the Islamic conquest of Southern Europe. The villain is a native. The hero is a sub-Saharan Muslim they're claiming to be their first "Spanish" princess. Once Disney gets around to making a movie set in Africa, you know it's not going to star a Dutch girl fighting off blacks in South Africa.
>it's just openly racist.
Gb2 tumblr
They need the outrage marketing
Because a real African princess would get traded by her father for a couple of goats, a couple of chickens, and a handful of shells.
Never happening, this is the closest we will ever be to an animated film set in subsaharan Africa (it's kino btw)
>she kisses the baby and it grows to be a man and they get married
The French are weird, man.
Kino nonetheless
There has never been a poop princess. And there never will be.
Mate, Marvel decided to make a hyper advanced African kingdom a bunch of spear chuckers and made the most stereotypical ooga booga traditions and designs on them.
What makes you think disney will be any better?
Thats what I hate about the BP series. The most advanced blacks ever are spear-chuckers with laser spears who solve their problems with tribal violent duels to the death? I'm not even black and even I'm offended as frick to the point of getting pissed off about it.
I don't get why blacks didn't flip their shit over it. I honestly don't.
>advanced skyscrapers with stick huts attached randomly
>advanced tech as spears
>pinnacle of society is deathmatch fights for rule
>literally make animal noises like it's normal
I was in this weird daydream for about 2 days after I saw Black Panther, because it was the most racist thing I'd seen from Disney since the old days, yet marketing had tricked every black person it wasn't. It made me realise the true power of propaganda.
Don't forget the moral pf the story is that isolationist African countries are evil and that violently resisting Western powers is also evil. Instead you need to work with the CIA to open trade relations with the West
Most advaced whites of the marvel universe (asgardians) also are spear chuckers, and hammer chuckers. Everyone in the marvel universe has a moronic boner for melee weapons.
Because the purpose is to attack and subvert European history and culture
blacks sell less
they literally need to leech on white ips
I would have sold more.
It would require their writers to actually read and study african kingdoms and their history which they can't be bothered with. I mean the furthest they ever went with that was The Lion King just using Swahili words over the plot line of Hamlet and that was over 30 years ago.
>It would require their writers to actually read and study african kingdoms and their history which they can't be bothered with
Plus, it would fall flat even if they did. They'd target an African film to people who have no clue which country their ancestors are even from and have no knowledge of Africa themselves.
You manchildren would throw a temper tantrum over it anyways. There is no pleasing you.
i definitely would v-v
>broken record
We already had this conversation. Prove it.
Probably not. I liked Blade, Luke Cage, American Gangster, Fresh Prince, Space Jam, and Atlanta. Plus, I like folklore and mythology, so a Disney film that made African myths more popular would be great.
I just don't like forced diversity and blackwashing.
Blackwashing isn’t a thing
It quite literally is, though.
No, it’s not. You fundamentally don’t understand what the word “whitewashing” means
Also
I didn't say whitewashing. I said blackwashing. Which it is.
Blackwashing isn’t a word and it’s an attempt to say that there’s a black equivalent to the word “whitewashing
Blackwashing is a word, and it's proven here
It’s not
Literally is. I'm sorry that this is news to you.
Literally is not. Sorry you’re moronic
Your insistence on being wrong when we have the whole internet at our disposal is embarrassing.
Looked up Blackwashing on dictionary.com it’s not there
So you're incompetent, or you're a liar. I won't rule out either.
It’s not real. Cry harder
See
Enjoy your loop.
See
Literally doesn't refute it and isn't relevant. So you're back to
Nice loop.
Stop being a victim. Cinemaphile is a BIPOC board and we are fed up with you whitoids crying victim here
>the phenomenon you are describing doesn’t exist
Motte
>okay it is but the word you are using is not real because I said so and also there is no word to describe the actual real phenomenon
Shittier motte tbh, not even a bailey.
Anon quickly describe what whitewashing means
But there is an equivalent thing to whitewashing where white characters are changed to be black. What would you call it, if not blackwashing? "Reverse whitewashing?" That makes no sense. It would only make sense if you were re-blacking originally black characters who had been changed. Just as "reverse racism" makes no sense as it implies the opposite of discriminating in the basis of race, which is just equality.
what word would you use to describe changing historically white characters black?
and what word would you use for changing historically black characters white?
presumably in both cases these changes would be made primarily for racial reasons (whether to be more diverse/homogeneous to appease particular audiences)
strictly speaking, neither whitewashing or blackwashing are related to race, so what word would you use?
White erasure.
Hawkeye isn't a redhead.
And they list Archie Andrews twice.
Who's the comic book character in between Ariel and Ms. Frizzle?
Stripesy from Justice Socierty of America
That's a deep cut. What show?
Stargirl
They also blackwashed Jade and probably more
And no I'm not the original poster of the pic, just answering your question
Thanks Anon!
>No, it’s not. You fundamentally don’t understand what the word “whitewashing” means
True, it should be called Blacksooting
Soiling.
Honestly, this troll is so obvious.
I've been wanting Africa kino for decades you insipid redditard. No other place on the planet looks like it. No other place on the planet still has most of their ice age megafauna. African legends are kino. African proverbs are cool. African languages sound kino (pic related, Lion named Ntwadumela. Means "He Who Greets With Fire Nature kino is Lions & Hyenas: Eternal Enemies).
Africa has some cool fricking shit. Really cool fricking shit. And I'm not just talking about ancient Egypt. The fact we don't have hardly any true kinography showcasing it proves what the other anons ITT are saying. They don't care about sharing actual African stories. They just want to tear down European stories.
They won't get as many outrage articles to promote their movie that way.
Their marketing research told them they will get more viewers by race baiting.
Black people existing isn’t racebaiting
Black peopel being forced in role and setting where they don't exist, in number that doen't exist isn't "black people existing", gaslighter
They’re not being forced in they audition for the role.
auditioning for whiter roles or white setting is racism and blackwash. You can blame them or the producers or whatever, but it's balckwash and racism
No such thing as a “white” setting in fictional places that don’t take place on earth
You dont' get to decide.
There are no blacks in many settings/stories, therefore they are out of place there. An the opposite is also true.
Create your own shit bsed on your own audience.
They are now
>mine now!
Cope, blackwasher.
That's why you aren't equal. Stop thinking like a thief or a slave
Yawn. Get lost cracker
not that anon, but I don’t see the sequitur in your post and it seems unrelated to what that other anon was saying. further, saying “does not take place on earth” seems a strange arbitrary distinction
whites are not necessary in modern day. EEAAW proves you can tell “white” stories with East Asians and make bank. whites have backslid in every department which is why they are being replaced by Black people and Asian people.
Didn't say it was. Racebaiting is swapping a characters race, or making racial justice a focal point of an IP, in an attempt to get attention from the mainstream audience.
All Yidsney does is race bait. If they really wanted to show they are on the side of the poor oppressed masses, they can give half their board of director's seats to black investors. Something tells me they won't do that, though. They are pro-progress right up until it requires a sacrifice from god's chosen shareholders.
That’s not racebaiting. You’re using the same logic boomers were using when they were mad at The Princess and The Frog saying it only exists because Obama became president. Black people exist and whites need to get over it
You don't get to take white roles and sotries to exist. Get over it.
Princess and the frog is a blakcwashed story btw
Black is better. Sorry honky
>Black people exist and whites need to get over it
That's not what this is about at all you Black personhomosexual. It's about American blacks "we wuz"ing everything Europeans and Egyptians and Greeks and Romans did. It's all a massive cope on your side for not contributing anything to society except music and sportball and exorbitantly high crime rates wherever your people settle.
Have you read old African stories?
The problem is that the people in charge would neuter the frick out of them. I actually think an African story would be interesting for Disney, but I know they're too pussy to give it a try and Twitter drones would seethe if they put any effort.
Now I'm interested.
Can you give an example ?
because it is more risky doing something completely new than re-doing something old with name recognition and a marketing history (toys etc) - e.g. little mermaid
thank you for actually using your brain anon
It would be called racist if they made a movie about an African princess because they would live in mud huts and chuck spears.
Why would they? American blacks have as much connection to Africa as you or I, they're not interested in Africa they're only interested in vandalizing white culture.
What’s white culture? Opioids?
Unwashed legs and guns
>what is all of the greatest literature, philosophy, art, music, cuisine, and science?
White culture is the dominant global culture, to the point where even Asians wear suits and ties for formal occasions. It's all around you, so to act like it doesn't exist is to be quite literally ignorant of your surroundings.
>white people state they have the greatest food and culture
Uh, ok?
They’re delusional, that’s why the claim stuff like Tikki Masala to be “white”
Do you just not know Europe exists?
Yes, which is how I know that it’s a fact that white people do not have the best cuisine.
>French, Spanish and Italian food continuosly win on every contest ever and are loved in every part of the world
Kek, try harder
>French cuisine
>Italian cuisine
>Spanish cuisine
>Greek cuisine
>pretend it doesn't exist for the shitpost
Do something with your lives.
All shit food that is basically mash potatoes and baked chicken with no seasoning
pizza, lasagna, spaghetti, crepes, pancakes, waffles, paella, rundstuck warm (hamburgers), gyros (kebab), schnitzels (milanesas), all food invented by europeans in europe
And all bland and shit food, thanks for proving my point for me.
so I am guessing you eat fried chicken 24/7
Black person, the only food you ever had from Whites came from the "free" lunches at school and from prisons
>listing hamburgers, waffles, and pancakes
we wuzzz hamburgers n shieeet homie, hamburgers entered the USA through german restaurants, it is something even Wikipedia has listed, the recipe is called rundstuck warm, a traditional dish from hamburg that can be made out of very different types of meat but it is also made with frikadelle or Hamburg meat as it is known, a frikadelle rundstuck warm, made of two bread buns, a hamburger meat, pickles, and ketchup sauce, a Hamburg dish, a hamburger, outside of Hamburg people know it as bulette waffles are literally from Belgium and pancakes are from the Netherlands
That’s not what I was saying.
you said that I am listing hamburgers, when hamburgers are indeed a german dish, not only hamburgers but pretty much all the sandwiches served at Arby's because that's the most traditional rundstuck warm
>kebab
daily reminder that the turkroaches who didn't even exist 200 years ago reclaim the invention of the kebab and that academia accepts that notion, even tho they also accept that the stacked meat was present in ancient Greece and that they were eating something very similar to a gyro/kebab/shawarma in ancient times
Many Asian and South American countries mog those places. Hell, American black people improved French food with Creole and Cajun foods.
t. shitskin
I don’t think he’s European
That much was obvious anon.
:^)
>puts lawry's seasoned salt on everything and nothing else
>calls it improved food
keke
Obviously you don’t know what Creole food is
Obviously the only "cuisine" you know is "creole food".
?
nta but I think he's calling you a Mississippi delta bumpkin. A yokel. Never left your swampy hellhole and have no frame of reference. So you think Creole is the end all be all of cuisine.
After reading through the thread I agree. You seem to be the living definition of sour grapes.
>american black people
>cajun
america is such a disgusting shithole they don't even know their own country, Cajuns are the name of the white Louisianans, they are anything but black you moronic amerimutt
You do realize that they were getting their recipes from black people right?
Another lie, damn. Get fricked while eating mud cookies
It’s not a lie, open a book smoothbrain
like which recipes? the ones based on paella or the ones based on french cousine like the cajun boil?
Shrimp and grits
a dish from georgia, not cajun
Shrimp and grits have been adopted into Cajun food for a long ass time. Visit new orleans
adopted but it is not cajun, it is from georgia not louisiana, it is a black people dish tho you are right, but not cajun
lol there's literally nothing worth mentioning from Europe, also killing israelites and sinking migrant boats is not "culture"
But they are good things
French, italian and Spanish cuisine is delicious. You are just too poor and uncultured to actually experience it.
What you've experienced of European cooking is the equivalent of what a pot noodle is to a Chinese stir fry.
Have you been to a bistro in Paris? Been to an Italian bakery at 10 am to enjoy an expresso, sandwich and pastry? Ever had fresh shellfish from the British sea side? I think not you poor gay.
The bread in Paris was so buttery you could eat it on its own. It becomes God tier with the addition of cheese, rocket, coldcuts and chutney, along with a small plate of grapes, of course.
Have you tried cheese that isn't American plastic cheese or kraft Parmazan woodchipz?
Name a cold cut other then bologna.
Do you even deglaze with white wine?
Is the flour in your roux raw?
Non anon, margarine isn't butter.
Gravy powder isn't real gravy.
Enjoy your wonderbread, frozen mixed vegetables and chicken tenders.
I'm saying this as a mixed race women - the microwave, stand up comedy and 3rd wave feminism ruined everything.
Liking French and Italian food doesn’t make you cultured
Spotted the brokie.
French food isn’t even tasty, most of it is poverty food.
Damn, anon. You dabbed on him harder that a homosexual dabbing grease off his pizza.
I can tell you've never had wienerschnitzel and spaetzle.
Germans aren’t white, that’s why they Anglicized themselves
>they Anglicized themselves
Stop making your lack of intelligence this fricking obvious.
Do you not know history or are you just butt blasted?
>Do you not know history
Oh, the irony.
What’s the irony?
You using your "anglicized" education to try and shame people.
It’s not shaming when it’s what happened.
Go read an actual history book. Not one of those you use in American highschools.
>Germans, a race of Europeans living smack dab in the center of Europe, aren't white
you mean american culture? white, black, etc culture is way too vague
Realistic portrayals of Africa are problematic.
AND RACIST
logic and intelligence are conservative values now
>black americans =/= africans
Foundational Black Americans are a western population in origin, they have no connection to the mythology, setting, and culture of Africa. They are far more connected to the little mermaid than they are to any tales from Africa, so when you try to isolate black representation to African-like settings in fantasy you are othering Black Americans. That's why fantasy shows like House of Dragon black representation resonated with black audiences because they understood this difference. They didn't make their black ppl foreigners from a not-africa country with unrecognizable names like Ayotunde Olugbodi, they represented them in iconography and cultural attire that has a western linage which is what Black Americans are connected to.
No, replace White ones instead is their creed
>April O'Steal
Channel 9mm News
>Why don't Disney just make an African Disney princess? Not shit like racebending, actual princess from Africa.
Because the "people" writing that shit are white
The only impressive black monarchy in Africa is Ethiopia but even that shit is boring. Otherwise theres nothing but crazy heart eating warlords and slavers.
princess of what? some twigs and stones they collected in a pile?
1. African royalty is pretty fricked up and that black queen movie a few months ago took a beating
2.white audiences are tired of propaganda, or tired of pretending they care.
3.Unless the cast and creative was 100% black the woke crowd will reject it.
It's a lose lose, but if Disney still had the resources I wouldn't put it past them.
They should
>actual princess from Africa.
That would mean they'll either have to make her a villainous princess, or they'll glorifiy slavery, genocide, and working class exploitation (among other things). Or they'll lie about African history. Probably the latter.
Why would they make her villainous? You act like like African kingdoms were the only kingdoms that did bad things and explored people.
>You act like like African kingdoms were the only kingdoms that did bad things and explored people.
The only ones? No. But contrary to European kingdoms (of which there were many smaller ones that mostly tried to get along relatively peacefully most of the time), African kingdoms, without fail, were constantly trying to erradicate one another. Usually with success.
Ok but what does that have to do with a hypothetical children’s movie
That you cannot tell them the truth about Africa, because it would villify the protagonists.
But lying to them is also immoral. And not lying in the sense of "let's make something up in that setting, dd a bit of magic and gloss over some smaller details". They'd need to lie pretty rigorously about everything.
They could just do the same thing as is done in frozen. Use the culture as set dressing and make up the rest.
So, black panther?
>Use the culture as set dressing
You cannot use genocide as set dressing, anon.
You act like Disney Princess movies are period pieces
Pretty sure that several of them were on their periods, yes.
I matched with an African princess on Tinder once. She was looking for guys into anime that her sister could be friends with. The sister, obviously another princess, was mostly into forbidden romance type anime/manga, and she hated One Piece. She had very big breasts.
I obviously wouldn't have sex with her because miscegenation is wrong, but the novelty of the situation was neat.
Reminds me of that one time an African prince contacted me per email. He wanted to use my bank account to transfer his money to Switzerland and needed me to make a deposit of 2000 dollars first for some reason. Didn't like One Piece either.
I helped him out, of course, but never heard from him again.
They're already making an African princess in Wish
Westernized blacks are bioweapons that don't actually care about Africa and just want to see themselves forced into whitey's histories and stories out of rage and jealousy.
hollywood only does Greco-Roman and Celto-Anglo stories tho, specially in fantasy, they rarely do something outside of that that's why there has never been a Gilgamesh movie or anything related to hinduism
>Celto-Anglo stories
>specially in fantasy,
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Fantasy is literally all nordic/germanic mythology inspired. And almost all fairytales have their origins in central or (sometimes) southern Europe. The only "Celto-Anglo" shit in fantasy is literally King Arthur, and even that is usually passed through a Central-Europe-medieval filter.
dwarfs, druids and pretty much wizards in general are celto-anglo culture, you won't find wizards with the characteristics of Harry Potter ones in greek, roman, or germanic, or nordic stories, as the modern wizard is based on Merlin, idk if fairies are also a celtic thing because I don't know a lot about germanic mythology but they are very present in Irish folk tales, anyway Hollywood does mostly only european fantasy and if they do something else it is usually in rare cases like Sinbad, Prince of Persia, movies based on Egypt, Mulan, that Cuzco movie, and stuff like that
>dwarfs, druids and pretty much wizards in general are celto-anglo culture
I repeat: You have no idea, at all, what you are talking about.
>the characteristics of Harry Potter ones
Imagine actually unironically thinking that Harry Potter is based on the Arthurian Merlin.
>hmmmm European mythology and folklore don't matter chud.....uhhhh unless PoC play as them
>clap clap we need this
>insert White Black Panther
>European mythology and folklore don't matter chud
Are you too fricking moronic to follow a conversation? A written conversation even? Take a good breath and re-read
, then tell me where you get the idea from that " European mythology and folklore don't matter", you fricking /misc/tard shiteater.
>why yes I'm a Democrat voter and kneel for BLM, how could you tell
See .
You fricking tourists are the worst thing that's ever happened to this board.
You cannot even have a civil discussion about Central European myths and flok tales without you idiots pretending that it's all about blacks.
yes, the Merlin of myths and legends from medieval times is the same as the Merlin we got today, and modern day wizards are based on this depiction of Merlin, witches and stuff have always existed but wizards with magic wands and stuff are what Merlin was about
>modern day wizards are based on this depiction of Merlin,
You either know nothing about "modern day wizards" or nothing about Arthurian legands.
>wizards with magic wands and stuff are what Merlin was about
Magic wands literally come from Greek literature. Homer to be exact. There are also sources that wands, sticks and staves all were part of religious rites in the mediterranian region in ancient times.
Wow, you’re moronic.
The first magicians ever literally came from Babylon dude. Im not even upset, i understand you're just a victim to hollywood's bullshit. You probably also think hitler is the worst human ever
see what I mean here
? sorcerers have existed since the rise of civilization, but wizards as we know today have been heavily influenciated by anglo-celtic culture
Becuase apparently american blacks have nothing in common culturaly with africans and so they also cant relate to that. Their life experience is 100% american of the black variety.
The only people with culture in America are 1st generation immigrants. Even their children turn into golem
Sundiata could be King Arthur tier if some butthole executive just threw money a it. This is the guy who has no legs, grows them from pure effort, and fights an evil warlock king whose power is drawn from a magical bongo. It's as fairy tale as it fricking gets and is also 100% pure Bantu folklore so it ticks the blackrock boxes why the hell aren't they monetizing this.
nice, I'm hoping for an Anansi cinematic universe, personally
They hate White people who haven't submitted yet, and if there's one thing they can't stand is a mirror exposing them
because it's rayciss and stereotypical
>Princess in the Frog protagonist is an anthropomorphic protagonist for a majority of the movie
>Soul protagonist is an anthropomorphic protagonist for a majority of the movie
>>Soul protagonist is an anthropomorphic protagonist for a majority of the movie
he wasnt
For me it's Coal Black.
>that pic
I finally understand the slur gollywog
An empire of dirt.
Princess and the Frog is one of Disney's big modern flops for a reason.
And really wokes don't want to watch anything actually African, they want to ruin something white and european and preferably with as much of modern day american blacks as possible. If it doesn't evoke modern day SF/LA/Austin as seen through the lens of twitter it doesn't interest them in the least.
By most american accounts i'd be considered a "racist" because i'm a white european ingroup-first kind of guy who completely disregards all the modern lies about us and yet I could name my favorite Aka folktale featuring Anansi which I read as a kid next to Aesop's fables, point to some of the interesting kingdoms that were not just thinly-veiled Arab slave colonies or select a good myth collection of Haida stories they could adapt but they're not interested just like i'm not interested in giving them money to take a shit on Europeans.
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they would be egyptian, arab or european anon.
they wouldnt be black. black african history is fricking stupid anon.
its mostly consisting of honor rapings, slavery and bloodshed.
the blacks have been anslaving each other long before the white man, the arabs or the israelites ever set foot in africa.
they also never progressed much as a society without outside influence.
this is basically all of black african history:
plus a lot of blacks enslaving each other, happily.
Because all the princesses from Africa owned slaves.
That would require making something new, not leaning on IP.
You typed all of that racist shit out and nobody will read it lol
Typing out might be hard for you, but not for me, you parasitic porch monkey.
africans weren't complete stone age savages when the europeans arrived to Africa, they were in their bronze age, probably even iron age, the majority still lived as hunter-gatherers but there were civilizations, just not as advanced as in the rest of the world, africans had their medieval times in the 18th century, and until this century they hadn't entered modernity, but they are advancing, look I am not a Black apologist, I am not even black, I am also not a liberal, but black people aren't even half as bad as you racists depict them, the problem is unironically western society keeping them down, in the USA it is the thug culture promoted by the mainstream media, and in Africa it is the western companies and governments making sure african countries do not develop so they can keep exploiting their resources, don't get me wrong, most black people are worthless, but they still have good leaders and smart enough people to achieve more than what they have achieved until today, being racist towards them won't achieve anything, if anything we should encourage the good things they do so they keep advancing
>africans had their medieval times in the 18th century, and until this century they hadn't entered modernity, but they are advancing
Well, considering that they literally had gotten a steady influx of European culture and technology for over 200 years at that point (in the 18th century), it would have taken a miracle for them not to advance in any way. It is actually a miractle that it took them another 200 years to get anywhere close to where Europe had been when they had their first "cultural exchange". Yes, that is in parts due to the tribal structure their population was spead out in and the general lack of infrastructure. But still, you cannot treat it as if Africa had to take the long rocky part to civilization that Europe and Asia had to take on their own. For all their crying about it (some of it justified), European colonialism actually helped them massively to improve their standard of life and to later develop independently.
saying that european colonialism made them take huge leaps in development means nothing when africa was a barebones continent, that same european colonialism has made sure they don't learn anything about how to sustain that society they were introduced into
>that same european colonialism has made sure they don't learn anything about how to sustain that society they were introduced into
That's bullshit. There have always been efforts to bring education to Africans. Yes, there also was a good amount of exploitation of resources. And, yes, there was too much of a push to establish European values. But not everything about colonialism was outright bad, and many colonizers had a genuine interest in improving the lives of African people long-term.
Probably the worst mistake that was made though was that most of the education given wasn't exactly secular: Very often, it came with a good amount of religious indoctrination, which resulted in the sorry state that we see today: Completely uneducated communities that are fanatically and fundamentally Christian (not much of a difference to America there).
>many colonizers had a genuine interest in improving the lives of African people long-term
Debatable, but it reminds of the The Case for Colonialism by Bruce Gilly, he makes a similar positive approach to colonialism as a whole and made the entirety of academia seethe.
Christgayging is the least of their problems. The sangoma talisman shit is like a million times worse than not wanting to eat da poo poo.
colonialism was a good thing at first, today it is a bad thing keeping them down, christians aren't a bad thing, religion is important for society and Christianity is a great religion, the problem is that no european government cared about developing Africa and educating Africans, some individuals from those european governments cared, but a couple of people do not have the power and money to develop dozens of countries and millions of people who have never ever seen a letter in their lives, this is the difference when the Soviet Union starts educating Africans in their country or how china is developing by educating Africans today, you notice a real change and development, it takes time, it is a slow transition, but things get better, european colonial powers never did that and do not have plans for doing it that includes the USA, they would loose their easy money and exploitation
>religion is important for society
Kek.
You're American, aren't you? Southern states?
Neuter all of them and then I'll stop being "realist" to them. Nogs are not human and we should stop treating like one. They're proto-humans, who should've been allowed to go extinct ages ago. A genophage of sorts can easily solve that. We do not need 4.5 billion of these monkeys in the World by 2100. If anything, killing them should be rewarded.
Didn’t Ask, snow roach
Because Black folk aren't popular or marketable.
They're only popular in the US and even nigs don't like nigs that much.
Elsa being the most popular Disney princess has a reason.
People only support non white princesses in this day and age for virtue signaling reasons, but little girls don't give a shit about Black folk.
Because Disney hates black people
because they want a head start and can't build a platform with actual merit
because you can only increase ESG score by increasing diversity. The woman king didn’t amount for a single blip on ESG because it was black people playing Africans, even though it was 100% pure historical revisionism where the tribe of slavers responsible for selling every enslaved single black person into slavery, ever, were rewritten into being freedom fighters against the evil French empire.
This the only way to increase ESG is to cast black people in white roles.
Kinos about nubian queens embracing their divinely ordained role as the white man's lover?
Guess Who with Barbie Mac
Slavery probably
Disney is afraid to go and do a movie that's set in a unique setting where the average audience won't know about.
The average American thinks Africa is a country and also can't find it on the map.
And (outside of Egyptian stuff) no African folk story is well known in the states.
So that would make an African movie a risk compared to just taking a European story but making the princess black.
African American girls also prefer the European fantasy and princess aesthetic, since they are Americans after all. With more cultural heritage to Europe than Africa, even though they're black.
So black girls would prefer something like 'The Princess and the Frog' which shows black characters in a traditional European fantasy
>why don’t
I honestly can’t tell if this is a bait post, or there really are a ridiculous number of nogs posting on here now.
I had a dream last night I was watching a trailer for a new Pixar movie called "Bacon Pants" using Pixars generic new art style about a girl using talking ai pants to become a chef. All the reviews for it were like "This movie is bussin!" and "A pixar trans icon" and stuff.
It was so lame and felt so real. It reminded me of Turning Red or one of those new movies like the gay incestuous mermaid brothers where they give it a goofy one word name.
I think Anansi the spider is super cool. Do something with that.
There's a lot of cool African mythos shit for them to work with. They won't, because they don't actually want black history. These people act like houdoon depictions are racist, let alone old world black shit.
Black people do not understand their own history
they were brought up in a deeply european western cultural context. Which is why instead of actually imagining stuff in africa, they just racebend the stories they know
remember, Black folk are a punishment by God on america for the sin of Slavery
We have a Disney African princess that became a queen already.
FUN FACT: Mountain Lions are just like house cats when raised from kittenhood. Go get yourself a Flavorite pet Nala.
God, I want to frick a big cat. If the apocalypse ever happens, I'm taking a trip down to animal kingdom and trying to live with the cheetahs.
I'm, Skeptical but Intrigued and crazy enough to try this.
Oh, and quite a few states allow them as pets.
No.
That would require them to know, understand, and adapt the material respectfully which is too hard.
Frick it. This thread's almost archived. Gonna do some /k/amping and dump my folder.
They keep changing the post limits on random boards. Like why the frick did they make it 310 instead of 300 on /toy/?
Hiroshimoot's just doing a lil trolling. But he's Japanese and polite so it just registers as a minor annoyance.
relevant to the thread?
dunno why this is in my /k/ folder, it's Cinemaphile related
Any of you lurking homosexuals like Dino Crisis?
They don't care about diversity as much as Cinemaphile claims.
How would that contribute to attacking, subverting and destroying white culture?