I own all of Small favors, XXXenophile, Melonie sweet, Gulivera and Butterscotch by Manara, Ironwood, Houswives at play and Short Strokes, I also have a few of Manara and Ferocius as physical copies.
A lot of those late 90s- early 00s porn comics especially the euro ones were kino as frick.
>There's nowhere to sell them
All of my local comic stores sell them, also amazon, ebay,etc.
the US was founded by puritans who were so stuck up that even 17th century england didn't want them, and their sentiments and values can still be felt in modern society
and I don't mean Puritans in the colloquial term, I mean the Calvinist religious movement from which the colloquial term is derived
I'm enough of a coomer to have read my fair share of smut comics, and I gotta say, they are never worth paying for. the story is never any good, the art is always just OK, the characters are never interesting, and the humor is always Boomer tier. The only smut i'd ever pay for is the Druuna series and only if there were a really good English translation.
Maybe that works for you, but for Erotica to sell when there's no widespread ban on the shit, it has to stand on SOME kind of artistic merit. Euro stuff can go for a fun, lighthearted approach like pic related which is more of a tease at MOST, or it can go for off the wall shit like Druuna or the other stories in Heavy Metal. Japan has frickloads of eager artists willing to get their work out there and they AGRRESSIVELY cater to fetishes. The American attitude towards smut is that sex in and of itself is enough to sell without any other real merits. Which is only sort of true. Sex still has to compete with sex.
They are not sold in most comic shops or online retailers. People invented paetreon and adult star mostly as a means of paying these artists back for pirating their shit. You cannot convince otherwise.
Well, as far as furry smut went, most of it was sold as 'zines and shipped by mail in plain brown wrappers until the Internet came along. Then they all became webcomics until the Web porn police started cracking down on them.
>not sold in most comic shops
They have them though. In the thousands of boxes they have hidden away in the basement, there are hundreds of porn comics just scattered throughout
Japan and France are more typical countries. Their cultures evoke normal feelings of all avenues of humanity, including the curiosity and excitement over sex. However, America was founded by religious zealots such as the Puritans who shunned sex or anything fun, really. Life is to be composed of toil and faith, nothing more. The Shakers completely threw off all culture and sex, leading to their depressingly bleak church decor and total church membership of four people, because they don’t reproduce. Americans as a result hate sex and true culture and only approve of shallow black-and-white, sexless stories. Erotic comics would never fly here.
The USA pioneered the pornography industry and profits massively from it and porn is so successful and prevelant that the idea of not watching it for an entire month is considered a near impossible challenge by the average American. You are living in an alternate reality.
Eurotrash live in this bizzare fantasy where the US is simultaneously a far right fascist puritanical racist hypercapitalist dystopia, and a far left rainbow Bolshevik hypersexual degenerate Black person-worshipping communist failed state. It's the result of older generations of Euros all being card-carrying marxists raised on cold war-era anti-american propaganda, and younger generations of Euros all being internet-addicted larping neonazi contrarians. They don't know what the US is, they just project onto the US whatever is the opposite of their current beliefs are. It's best to just not acknowledge their gibberish.
Americans pirate everything. Japanese and French actually *buy* comics, even physical comics, to a much greater degree so they are able to support an industry for erotic comics.
>comics are for children
This is why. There was a big underground comic scene in the 70s-90s that had some risque topics and art, but the big publishers wouldn't touch them because they wanted to maintain their squeaky clean brand image of capeshit for all ages. Even upstarts like Dark Horse mostly just focused on edgier capeshit because of the fear that sensuality wouldn't sell.
Americans are too moronic and puritan for that. You can show them the most graphic depictions of gore imaginable and they won't blink an eye, but god forbid a woman's nipple makes an appearance.
Most people will pirate.
The only French erotic comic I ever seen here are the ones from milo
I see these all around regularly. They're erotic gags by different artists.
Manara? He's italian.
You had the whole late 80's to early 00's with erotic comics being sold around
You have to be sick in the head to read porn comics.
There's nowhere to sell them, and if you're buying porn anyway then companies are more interested in selling you a 4K hour long porno video for $80.
>There's nowhere to sell them
homie you can go to B&N right now and buy all the smut you can get your hands on, the hell are you smoking?
I own all of Small favors, XXXenophile, Melonie sweet, Gulivera and Butterscotch by Manara, Ironwood, Houswives at play and Short Strokes, I also have a few of Manara and Ferocius as physical copies.
A lot of those late 90s- early 00s porn comics especially the euro ones were kino as frick.
>There's nowhere to sell them
All of my local comic stores sell them, also amazon, ebay,etc.
>XXXenophile
Ah yes, Phil used to be so wild. His work is now too tame then it's used to be.
He became a father and stopped doing erotic comics, iirc.
Most american men are too fat and low test to get an erection.
I don't want story with my porn most of the time.
the US was founded by puritans who were so stuck up that even 17th century england didn't want them, and their sentiments and values can still be felt in modern society
and I don't mean Puritans in the colloquial term, I mean the Calvinist religious movement from which the colloquial term is derived
I'm enough of a coomer to have read my fair share of smut comics, and I gotta say, they are never worth paying for. the story is never any good, the art is always just OK, the characters are never interesting, and the humor is always Boomer tier. The only smut i'd ever pay for is the Druuna series and only if there were a really good English translation.
>and the humor is always Boomer tier
Porn with dad jokes, sign me up.
Maybe that works for you, but for Erotica to sell when there's no widespread ban on the shit, it has to stand on SOME kind of artistic merit. Euro stuff can go for a fun, lighthearted approach like pic related which is more of a tease at MOST, or it can go for off the wall shit like Druuna or the other stories in Heavy Metal. Japan has frickloads of eager artists willing to get their work out there and they AGRRESSIVELY cater to fetishes. The American attitude towards smut is that sex in and of itself is enough to sell without any other real merits. Which is only sort of true. Sex still has to compete with sex.
like said, 90% of pronos are shit and are only "good" enough for a quick jerkoff session before doing something else.
Men with cut peepees don't enjoy s*x
Credit card frickery means that they can't retail them. The actual biz model is Patreon and the like. See Tracy Scoopes.
If the big 2 collapse, this might be the future for comics.
Like, physical comics? People go to jail for selling that shit here. It's stupid but there's precedent for it.
>People go to jail for selling that shit here.
Sounds like flyoverland to me.
He probably means Korea. Korean porn is tight shit!
They are not sold in most comic shops or online retailers. People invented paetreon and adult star mostly as a means of paying these artists back for pirating their shit. You cannot convince otherwise.
Well, as far as furry smut went, most of it was sold as 'zines and shipped by mail in plain brown wrappers until the Internet came along. Then they all became webcomics until the Web porn police started cracking down on them.
>not sold in most comic shops
They have them though. In the thousands of boxes they have hidden away in the basement, there are hundreds of porn comics just scattered throughout
U.S. smut comics are more for lulz than for faps.
True
Japan and France are more typical countries. Their cultures evoke normal feelings of all avenues of humanity, including the curiosity and excitement over sex. However, America was founded by religious zealots such as the Puritans who shunned sex or anything fun, really. Life is to be composed of toil and faith, nothing more. The Shakers completely threw off all culture and sex, leading to their depressingly bleak church decor and total church membership of four people, because they don’t reproduce. Americans as a result hate sex and true culture and only approve of shallow black-and-white, sexless stories. Erotic comics would never fly here.
Oops wait I was wrong. Apparently two more Shakers died since I last checked.
The USA pioneered the pornography industry and profits massively from it and porn is so successful and prevelant that the idea of not watching it for an entire month is considered a near impossible challenge by the average American. You are living in an alternate reality.
Eurotrash live in this bizzare fantasy where the US is simultaneously a far right fascist puritanical racist hypercapitalist dystopia, and a far left rainbow Bolshevik hypersexual degenerate Black person-worshipping communist failed state. It's the result of older generations of Euros all being card-carrying marxists raised on cold war-era anti-american propaganda, and younger generations of Euros all being internet-addicted larping neonazi contrarians. They don't know what the US is, they just project onto the US whatever is the opposite of their current beliefs are. It's best to just not acknowledge their gibberish.
Regular comics don't sell, what makes you think porn comics would do any better?
Anyway, the short answer is the moral lobby would screech about peddling porn to kids because comics are for children in their minds, now and forever.
the old toads are dying
I got the trades of this from Coover at SDCC a million years ago.
Americans pirate everything. Japanese and French actually *buy* comics, even physical comics, to a much greater degree so they are able to support an industry for erotic comics.
>comics are for children
This is why. There was a big underground comic scene in the 70s-90s that had some risque topics and art, but the big publishers wouldn't touch them because they wanted to maintain their squeaky clean brand image of capeshit for all ages. Even upstarts like Dark Horse mostly just focused on edgier capeshit because of the fear that sensuality wouldn't sell.
posting a few erotica from Le Petit Derriere de l'Histoire by Katia Even:
Americans are too moronic and puritan for that. You can show them the most graphic depictions of gore imaginable and they won't blink an eye, but god forbid a woman's nipple makes an appearance.
I'm American you dumb homosexual, and I'm right.