Almost all of them take place in New York City. I'm not even sure it's legal for MJ to have that gun, let alone on her person outside her home, and especially fire it in a manner that could cause harm to others. She could easily be looking at jail time, best have Pete ditch it in the Hudson or something.
Please don't dispose of weapons in old gargoyles. They come to life at night. Imagine how confused the old man would be with a nine millimeter up his urethra.
There's no fricking way MJ legally got a permit for a gun in NYC, let alone concealed carry. She crossed state lines to get that gun. That alone is several years in jail. If she had actually managed to injure the Green Goblin she'd be opening herself up for several civil and federal lawsuits.
Marvel's NYC is the worst place in the world to live if you don't have super powers.
Where the frick did people get the idea that guns are illegal in NYC? The laws there are just more restrictive.
Why get the attention of the guy who the police are shooting to no effect that is firing death beams?
It depends, villains like Goblin aren't bulletproof, dumping a full rifle magazine into his head will definitely kill him if the first bullet somehow didn't splatter it like a watermelon, but that would be a very bad idea against Living Laser.
For some reason, cops in comic books are the most permissive, stable cops imaginable. They rarely use their guns, and when they do it's always at stupidly close range.
Because cops pick the fights they think they can win, and run from the ones they can't. Shooting a guy in his car for 'resisting arrest' after you woke him up for taking a nap in his back seat is one thing, taking shots at the glowing yellow alien that transmutes blood into fire by pointing at you is another.
The villains are a valuable part of the IP, so every story is set in a world where mass-murderers have unlimited get-out-of-jail cards and nobody will ever do anything about it. In a sane world someone like the Joker would have been found dead in his cell with two head shots a long time ago.
Would love more civilians fighting back against villains with things within their power
Like that one comic where the Riddler is robbing a bank and a woman punches him, he immediately gets pissed and beats the shit out of her
>Why don't more civilians shoot at super villains?
Because love interests would always die if they bring along a weapon with them for self-defence, like what happened to the girlfriend of one of the Green Lanterns who got strangled to death after she tries to stab the supervillain with a kitchen knife who invaded her home, iirc.
It's genuinely infuriating, and it's in so many movies and shows and books and... For once I'd love for a character who tries to moralize others into inaction and letting evil have its way be beaten to a convulsing, amorphous pile of wet meat.
There was that one Advance Wars game where a villain tried to pull the "if you kill me you'll be just as bad as me!" on a chick, and her response is just "Maybe, don't care" before blowing his brains out.
Because it's a major cope for "muh guns" civvies to believe they're gonna go Terminator mode and take out a threat, when most likely they will go into fight or flight and panic.
Reality: Cops go through intensive training to stay calm under pressure and pick their targets. See those pop ups where there are bad guys and innocents etc. They have to train hard for this.
Karen the soccer mom is going to be panicking and just shoot the first person who startles her in an active shooter situation for example.
They are, only because the armed police in other relevant countries are SWAT teams... All emergency services personnel should be allowed to conceal carry. However bad a US cop is, a civ is going to be even worse.
Guns in homes, that is more reasonable in America, as many burglars are armed.
Do you know how long a "cop" goes to school and training here in Burgerland? A Barber has more time and training than a cop does. Lets look at fire rescue.
Fire rescue has a low passing rate on the physical exam. You have to be really dumb to pass the written. For police? I've seen fat fricks pass the physical with no issues. There is a reason the military laugh at police and their training. Both the physical and the de-escalation training.
There are on average like 1,300 defensive gun use deaths each year in the US. Many mass shooting have been stopped by armed civilians and over 200,000 rapes are stopped each year by armed women.
People who say situations are just going to get worse by civilians with guns are provably wrong. We have thousands of case studies that say otherwise.
1,000 defensive shootings out of 45,000 offensive shootings (and a lot of suicides and accidents in that number) isn't a great argument. The fewer guns around, the safer everyone is. But, you know, it's America. There's no hope.
I'm not a burger, but did you even read this trash you posted? It proves jack shit. All it says that if a woman has a gun it won't save her if the guy she loves and trusts tries to kill her. Like, no shit, she probably doesn't expect to need to use the gun on her husband.
The vast majority of rapes ARE by someone the victim knows and trusts, The idea that a woman being jumped on a side street will be able to draw and fire before being overpowered is an obvious fantasy. Hardly ever happens.
The idea is that IF she manages to run, she can get enough distance to draw and then use the gun if she get cornered or chased down. Just because something won't work in 100% of scenarios doesn't mean its useless.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hardly ever happens, so rare it's a dismal argument against reasonable gun control. It certainly doesn't happen thousands of times a year like someone in this thread claimed. But thousands of times a year, little kids get hold of a loaded gun their idiot parent left loaded and available and the Medical Examiner has to be called.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which is a greater arguement that there's a bad parenting epidemic than anything wrong with the gun in and of itself.
Wew, you are divorced from reality, the only thing police and military training really do is weed out people who can't handle pressure. The majority of people who carry can handle SHTF.
Because if a civilian is just hiding, or even a bystander, a supervillain could ignore them, because most villains don't kill civilians just for the hell of it. Sure, very few villains WON'T kill civilians, but most have higher priorities. Two Face has better shit to do than kill that guy cowering in the corner, he's gotta make sure he takes all the $2 bills in the second national bank of Gotham. But if you pull out a piece and actually get in the way? Suddenly you go from an NPC in the background to an active nuisance.
As for the villains who do want to kill everyone? Well, unless you can get a killshot, you suddenly alerted the supervillain where you are.
I remember the N52 version of Resurrection Man had one bit I liked where he was thrown into Arkham and there was a riot that lead to one guard just shooting him immediately.
Unless you practice an enormous amount of times on a regular basis, you're just as likely to hit someone else. And that's if you were standing there calmly. In an agitated situation against a moving target, everyone in the area is at risk.
Most people can land a hit on a person-sized target at the ranges in which most CC incidents take place. You're talking about accuracy under stress, which is uniformly terrible for everyone - even people who have been specifically trained to mitigate it. The police, even SWAT, have a massive issue with shooting bystanders and hostages. Supervillains would probably decrease the chances of someone missing their target, under stress the mind tends to hyperfocus and lose situational awareness, so a garishly dressed guy making a bold declarative statement would naturally draw all attention.
Yes, you clarified that well. Real life isn't like a Clint Eastwood movie and bystanders getting shot by police unfortunately prove it. Although I imagine someone dressed in a purple and green costume would be easier to focus on than a regular person would be.
It's just a problem in all media where "If you're not the main character, you might as well be carrying a nerf gun" You could have a 20-man black ops squad with guns trained on the villain, and their IQ drops by a 100 points the instant any character with a name is on screen
I'd say the unrealistic part is that the main character hits whatever he aims at and never kills a ten year old girl across the street by mistake. Movie heroes have accuracy with handguns that's a super-power all its own.
>TwoFace tries to accomplish some dastardly plan >involves kidnapping the mayor during a parade >gets his brains blown out by a police sniper >Joker gets another sentence of a few hours of community service after killing dozens of people >random cop snaps and mag dumps him while he sits in the back of the police car >bane about to go all out >gets mowed down without being able to throw a single punch
wow some riveting shit, I wonder why they don't write stories like this
>why don't they just do [thing that permanently gets rid of a villain]? Hurr durr, I eat paste and lick windows, and my parents are brother and sister, hurr durr.
The answer is simple.
IF THEY GET RID OF THE VILLAIN, THEY CAN'T USE THAT VILLAIN ANYMORE.
After the most recent incidents involving USA's inability to control its weapons, as the consequences of that, can't you realize why is better not to show kids how civilians can take a gun and shoot at anyone wearing a supervillain costume?
>he thinks it's the inanimate object's fault >he doesn't blame the loonies that want to harm people for shits and giggles
You're the kind of moron that leads to criminals being released because "it's not their fault".
>--AAOOWW!
What did she mean by this?
maybe she didn't expect the gun to be so loud and it hurt her ears?
Pretty sure that's a mistake and it's Gobbo who's supposed to go AAOOWW!
In the panel before that he starts with WHA-- and then gets shot, so he goes --AAOOWW!
Recoil?
Lily white liberal hands unmarked by work or responsibility.
This.
don't know if that was intentional
No anon, I'm sure it's a coincidence.
Most people would complain about it being anticlimactic and generally unsatisfying for a random no-name to down a major villain.
I've always wanted a cop to dome Joker and Harley. Preferably mid-homosexualy-sentence.
Sometimes it happens but it rarely works out for civilians.
Norman has a healing factor AND body armor, it didnt do shit.
But it does show how MJ is prepped for this lifestyle, just like when she hit chamaleon with a baseball bat.
This is why superhero stories don't take place in Texas
>Supervillain mass murders a shopping center in Texas
>"We were afraid of getting vaporized, so we all waited outside until the shooting stopped."
>Texas
Can a statement retroactively age like milk?
No this is why
I miss this motherfricker like you wouldn't believe
Almost all of them take place in New York City. I'm not even sure it's legal for MJ to have that gun, let alone on her person outside her home, and especially fire it in a manner that could cause harm to others. She could easily be looking at jail time, best have Pete ditch it in the Hudson or something.
Please don't dispose of weapons in old gargoyles. They come to life at night. Imagine how confused the old man would be with a nine millimeter up his urethra.
I got that joke anon.
Goblin kidnapped her while she was at home, fearing for her life, hence gun on her.
There's no fricking way MJ legally got a permit for a gun in NYC, let alone concealed carry. She crossed state lines to get that gun. That alone is several years in jail. If she had actually managed to injure the Green Goblin she'd be opening herself up for several civil and federal lawsuits.
Marvel's NYC is the worst place in the world to live if you don't have super powers.
It is entirely legal to own a gun and even concealed carry in New York, providing you have the appropriate permits.
Where the frick did people get the idea that guns are illegal in NYC? The laws there are just more restrictive.
It depends, villains like Goblin aren't bulletproof, dumping a full rifle magazine into his head will definitely kill him if the first bullet somehow didn't splatter it like a watermelon, but that would be a very bad idea against Living Laser.
The bigger question is why more cops don't do it.
They'll shoot at just about anyone, given an excuse.
When they wear masks it's harder to tell they are black
For some reason, cops in comic books are the most permissive, stable cops imaginable. They rarely use their guns, and when they do it's always at stupidly close range.
Anon they only shoot defenceless people or people running away
Because cops pick the fights they think they can win, and run from the ones they can't. Shooting a guy in his car for 'resisting arrest' after you woke him up for taking a nap in his back seat is one thing, taking shots at the glowing yellow alien that transmutes blood into fire by pointing at you is another.
if a school shooter scares them no way they are facing a super villain
>cops
>risking their lives
L O L
The villains are a valuable part of the IP, so every story is set in a world where mass-murderers have unlimited get-out-of-jail cards and nobody will ever do anything about it. In a sane world someone like the Joker would have been found dead in his cell with two head shots a long time ago.
Would love more civilians fighting back against villains with things within their power
Like that one comic where the Riddler is robbing a bank and a woman punches him, he immediately gets pissed and beats the shit out of her
>Why dont they just kill the joker.
GAY
The worst part was the next page where they both raped the Joker as he bled out. It was the only way to stop him for good.
Was that Sawyer and if so did she stuff him into an anime girl body pillow case to cope?
>Why don't more civilians shoot at super villains?
Because love interests would always die if they bring along a weapon with them for self-defence, like what happened to the girlfriend of one of the Green Lanterns who got strangled to death after she tries to stab the supervillain with a kitchen knife who invaded her home, iirc.
Because it's WRONG
here's one that didn't age well considering Carnage's next appearance (Minimum Carnage iirc) had him kill a bunch of civvies in Houston.
How the frick did he get away with that in Texas?
>If you shoot the man who murdered your little girl you're just as bad as him!
I hate capeshit so fricking much.
It's genuinely infuriating, and it's in so many movies and shows and books and... For once I'd love for a character who tries to moralize others into inaction and letting evil have its way be beaten to a convulsing, amorphous pile of wet meat.
There was that one Advance Wars game where a villain tried to pull the "if you kill me you'll be just as bad as me!" on a chick, and her response is just "Maybe, don't care" before blowing his brains out.
Because it's a major cope for "muh guns" civvies to believe they're gonna go Terminator mode and take out a threat, when most likely they will go into fight or flight and panic.
Reality: Cops go through intensive training to stay calm under pressure and pick their targets. See those pop ups where there are bad guys and innocents etc. They have to train hard for this.
Karen the soccer mom is going to be panicking and just shoot the first person who startles her in an active shooter situation for example.
t. Non-American
>Cops go through intensive training to stay calm under pressure and pick their targets
lol
lmao even
Too be fair non-American cops are probably better than American cops, right?
They are, only because the armed police in other relevant countries are SWAT teams... All emergency services personnel should be allowed to conceal carry. However bad a US cop is, a civ is going to be even worse.
Guns in homes, that is more reasonable in America, as many burglars are armed.
My mom’s stories from when she worked in Congo in the 60s indicate that the cops there were maybe worse, so go USA.
Do you know how long a "cop" goes to school and training here in Burgerland? A Barber has more time and training than a cop does. Lets look at fire rescue.
Fire rescue has a low passing rate on the physical exam. You have to be really dumb to pass the written. For police? I've seen fat fricks pass the physical with no issues. There is a reason the military laugh at police and their training. Both the physical and the de-escalation training.
>Lets look at fire rescue.
Let's not because I actually lost interest
>You have to be really dumb to pass the written
Did not know that
There are on average like 1,300 defensive gun use deaths each year in the US. Many mass shooting have been stopped by armed civilians and over 200,000 rapes are stopped each year by armed women.
People who say situations are just going to get worse by civilians with guns are provably wrong. We have thousands of case studies that say otherwise.
1,000 defensive shootings out of 45,000 offensive shootings (and a lot of suicides and accidents in that number) isn't a great argument. The fewer guns around, the safer everyone is. But, you know, it's America. There's no hope.
Guns don't prevent rapes in any significant number,. That's a fallacy. https://ocrcc.org/2016/03/17/guns-rape-prevention-a-dangerous-myth/
I'm not a burger, but did you even read this trash you posted? It proves jack shit. All it says that if a woman has a gun it won't save her if the guy she loves and trusts tries to kill her. Like, no shit, she probably doesn't expect to need to use the gun on her husband.
That’s probably an issue when he decides to rape and/or murder her.
I think the bigger issue is that cops are going to do jack and shit too.
If you follow the news, you lose all respect and admiration for police.
The vast majority of rapes ARE by someone the victim knows and trusts, The idea that a woman being jumped on a side street will be able to draw and fire before being overpowered is an obvious fantasy. Hardly ever happens.
The idea is that IF she manages to run, she can get enough distance to draw and then use the gun if she get cornered or chased down. Just because something won't work in 100% of scenarios doesn't mean its useless.
Hardly ever happens, so rare it's a dismal argument against reasonable gun control. It certainly doesn't happen thousands of times a year like someone in this thread claimed. But thousands of times a year, little kids get hold of a loaded gun their idiot parent left loaded and available and the Medical Examiner has to be called.
Which is a greater arguement that there's a bad parenting epidemic than anything wrong with the gun in and of itself.
Wew, you are divorced from reality, the only thing police and military training really do is weed out people who can't handle pressure. The majority of people who carry can handle SHTF.
The military doesn’t need your white knighting and the thin yellow line doesn’t deserve it.
>t. Non-American
You didn't need to put that in your post, it was obvious from the previous three lines.
AMERICA: WE LOVE OUR GUNS MORE THAN WE LOVE OUR KIDS!!
>I want to take away everyone rights because I don't want them
No one is safe in this country. Mass shootings every day,. Terrorists give up, we kill each other faster than they ever could.
than go somewhere where you have less rights, don't drag everyone else with you.
Because if a civilian is just hiding, or even a bystander, a supervillain could ignore them, because most villains don't kill civilians just for the hell of it. Sure, very few villains WON'T kill civilians, but most have higher priorities. Two Face has better shit to do than kill that guy cowering in the corner, he's gotta make sure he takes all the $2 bills in the second national bank of Gotham. But if you pull out a piece and actually get in the way? Suddenly you go from an NPC in the background to an active nuisance.
As for the villains who do want to kill everyone? Well, unless you can get a killshot, you suddenly alerted the supervillain where you are.
I remember the N52 version of Resurrection Man had one bit I liked where he was thrown into Arkham and there was a riot that lead to one guard just shooting him immediately.
most of these heros work in liberal shitholes where only criminals have guns
They need to be in a redneck hellscape where every road rage ends in a shooting from a law-abiding good old boy.
Name one.
Most states that voted for Trump.
Unless you practice an enormous amount of times on a regular basis, you're just as likely to hit someone else. And that's if you were standing there calmly. In an agitated situation against a moving target, everyone in the area is at risk.
Most people can land a hit on a person-sized target at the ranges in which most CC incidents take place. You're talking about accuracy under stress, which is uniformly terrible for everyone - even people who have been specifically trained to mitigate it. The police, even SWAT, have a massive issue with shooting bystanders and hostages. Supervillains would probably decrease the chances of someone missing their target, under stress the mind tends to hyperfocus and lose situational awareness, so a garishly dressed guy making a bold declarative statement would naturally draw all attention.
Yes, you clarified that well. Real life isn't like a Clint Eastwood movie and bystanders getting shot by police unfortunately prove it. Although I imagine someone dressed in a purple and green costume would be easier to focus on than a regular person would be.
It's just a problem in all media where "If you're not the main character, you might as well be carrying a nerf gun" You could have a 20-man black ops squad with guns trained on the villain, and their IQ drops by a 100 points the instant any character with a name is on screen
I'd say the unrealistic part is that the main character hits whatever he aims at and never kills a ten year old girl across the street by mistake. Movie heroes have accuracy with handguns that's a super-power all its own.
Why get the attention of the guy who the police are shooting to no effect that is firing death beams?
>TwoFace tries to accomplish some dastardly plan
>involves kidnapping the mayor during a parade
>gets his brains blown out by a police sniper
>Joker gets another sentence of a few hours of community service after killing dozens of people
>random cop snaps and mag dumps him while he sits in the back of the police car
>bane about to go all out
>gets mowed down without being able to throw a single punch
wow some riveting shit, I wonder why they don't write stories like this
The big thing I'm taking from this post is that more characters should have ranged capabilities.
>why don't they just do [thing that permanently gets rid of a villain]? Hurr durr, I eat paste and lick windows, and my parents are brother and sister, hurr durr.
The answer is simple.
IF THEY GET RID OF THE VILLAIN, THEY CAN'T USE THAT VILLAIN ANYMORE.
After the most recent incidents involving USA's inability to control its weapons, as the consequences of that, can't you realize why is better not to show kids how civilians can take a gun and shoot at anyone wearing a supervillain costume?
>he thinks it's the inanimate object's fault
>he doesn't blame the loonies that want to harm people for shits and giggles
You're the kind of moron that leads to criminals being released because "it's not their fault".
What, you don't remember those times that guns walked themselves to schools to shoot children?
me in the hallway
based firearms safety instructor anon
You do seem damaged.