Why don't we take the billions we spend on space movies and just go to fricking space?
I seriously don't understand why we live on one rock when there's 6 minimum we could be living on. If one breaks we have multiple others to live on.
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We're never going to space. The human race will live on earth until some existential threat destroys the planet. We decided black people's feelings were more important than conquering the galaxy.
I as a black man would give up Africa if it meant going to space. I literally joined the Zpg Force just so I could become a pilot then get into NASA. I am still a virgin because I chose leaving this planet over women.
> I am still a virgin because I chose leaving this planet over women.
Holy based
>I literally joined the Zpg Force just so I could become a pilot then get into NASA. I am still a virgin because I chose leaving this planet over women.
I hereby declare you a certifiable non-Black person.
but, muh dick?
You don't have to give up Africa. You and every other Black has to leave White countries forever and return to Africa. That's the only way we'll ever leave this planet. We can't accomplish anything as long as you are holding the rest of us back. We literally lower our educational standards so that your people won't feel bad about doing so poorly. You and the israelites are parasites that need to be purged from this world. You are both cancers that are destroying humanity.
Holy shit have sex
Black person
why do you want to escape if you can just better yourself?
>escape
No.
>if you can just better yourself?
Why can't I do both?
What do you want do on mars?
There's a reason every sci fi movie has a plot point where ~~*someone*~~ invents some ftl-like tech, without that we're not going anywhere. Maybe we'll have bases on the moon or mars but I doubt it, what's the point really? I imagine the coolest thing we'll actually do is mine asteroids, I hope I am wrong though
The most realistic shit for this century is a moon base for research and tourism. The lack of an atmosphere is rich for astrophysics and geology.
Mining is still hard scifi funnily enough, the logistics of bringing tons of minerals back into earth is hell and building shit in orbit is even more scifi-ish.
So yeah, none of us here will see an autonomous colony
Nuclear engines will solve everything.
there are no valuable minerals on the moon that are not way easier to extract from earth
even helium-3 is a cope because you would need to superheat hundreds of tons of moon regolith to 1000F to even get one gram of this stuff to gas out of the rock. moving, heating and cooling that amount of mass would be an insane task, even on earth. plus the fact that a reactor that can even use helium-3 doesnt exist yet.
best case scenario for the moon is tourism and giant stadium domes where people play some exotic new low-G sports
FTL travel isn't necessary. Using conventional propulsion we could colonize the galaxy in a million years.
Not die from the gamma ray burst that just wiped out all life on Earth.
redditbrained spacetards will say things like this with a straight face and then demand you take them seriously
redditors all think space is racist.
"we" ? have you met people ? you think we can plan ahead for a million years ?
human colonization of the entire earth also wasnt planned by anybody. its just things that naturally happen when people get the means to get a little further each day and when its beneficial/necessary for them to do so.
space travel is already possible and will only continue to get better.
it might not be for another thousand years, but people will crawl out into the galaxy eventually
>dude history is linear
people into space are always midwits
you sound like the Black folk who stayed in an african cave, while braver people went out and became a civilization
Even if history was linear it took humans tens of thousands of years to get to all the continents. At that rate we wouldn't reach mars before the sun expands.
What is the point of sending a human to another planet so he can be entirely dependent on resource shipments from Earth while spending 99.9% of his time living in a shipping container? People are so unrealistic about space colonization.
I think we have something of a duty to terraform planets and spread Earth-originating lifeforms elsewhere
not necessarily live somewhere else ourselves as a species
We can't even terra form Earth to be habitable on places it currently isn't. We are having water scarcity issues. We would need to capture an ice comit and resolve this on Earth before we are capable of doing it on Mars.
>I think we have something of a duty to terraform planets
where do you people get this nonsense from
terraforming is about as real the force
they are
it literally shows how they come from space tho
I don't think I could come from space it is too scary. Although squid face aliens is ok as long as there are no teeth or beaks or second mouths.
humans cant exist in space. just look up how fricked the ISS guys get after a short stint on that station and thats inside the atmosphere. radiation doses are insane even with shielding. bone density, muscle mass, problems unloading fluid in the brain, back and joint issues, etc, etc. thats just a few weeks or months on the station. you want to travel years in space to a planet and live on a wasteland in pods to die.
so why isn't there any priority given to artificial gravity tech then
Humans can't even into gravity anon.
It's not understood at all and can only be measured in relationship to the mass of an object. You'd have to generate artificial mass, good luck with that.
Space takes much, much more money than movies.
And shit, we have actually lost the ability to make some of what we used to use to get to space. The Saturn 5 rocket, for example, was modified on the line by engineers and we do not know what those modifications were to make it work, because the brain drain has cost us their knowledge as hey all retired or died (or were replaced by automation).
We barely know how to replicate gravity effects on an earth small scale (meaning we just spin shit fast). Artificial gravity is 0 chance without literal magic, because gravity technically doesn't exist in our reality, only its effects do ("gravitons" don't exist, or if they do we have never found them, and the math for calculating them even theoretically is flawed and has yet to be solved). We can measure it, but that's it and even then only in relationship to mass.
>The Saturn 5 rocket, for example, was modified on the line by engineers and we do not know what those modifications were to make it work, because the brain drain has cost us their knowledge as hey all retired or died
Seems like the kind of thing we would've wanted to get out of them and save down immediately upon their return, but what do I know?
>but what do I know?
Yea, they weren't really into giving out information like that willy nilly during the cold war.
>Why don't we take the billions we spend on space movies and just go to fricking space?
you have such a childlike way of looking at the world. It's cute, really.
There's not enough fuel to move everyone off
It'll all be over soon, don't worry.
>we
who the frick is we? there's you, and there's people that matter. those people like things the way they are. they made things that way.
you're seriously underestimating how fricking deadly mars is, hell even the moon is a nightmare with its razor sharp microscopre dust and constant radiation
basedface
say that to the vacuum, it's not reddit to be realistic.
because fast space travel will never be possible. The aliens don't contact us because they too are trapped in their home system. It's an insurmountable challenge.
Pretty much this. The solar system is our cage, at least it's big and full of mysteries to solve, but we're stuck here. Even if we're to build some kind of livable space habitat the generations it would take just to get to the next star over(which has no oxygen or water rich planets) would make it so impractical and the odds of finding a new planet before running out of food or fuel are essentially zero.
*with our current understanding of physics
you have a myopic view of things
years ago we were beating monkeys with bones and cowering before lightning
>we still do that in Africa, but we also have e-girl VR experiences
Just you wait homie. We split the atom to release massive amounts of energy, wait til we figure out another secret of the physical world
it's far away
>Why don't we take the billions we spend on space movies and just go to fricking space?
Can't farm you up there. And it's trivial to redirect asteroids to hit earth. Basically: the contest for world dominion on the Kardeshev scale has to be resolved first namely-- curbstomping the dregs of Sino-Soviet monkeys on humanity's backs
>Why don't we take the billions we spend on space movies and just go to fricking space?
Where's the profit? These actors are making millions of dollars to do an incredibly easy job. You expect this generation of homosexuals to risk their lives exploring space for a fraction of what these actors make?
In general the ONLY thing humanity is missing to do all that shit you see in sci-fi movies is a really bad ass source of energy that in all the movies you see is never explained, they just have some blue thing shining that generates that energy but that's about it. A realistic energy source that would actually take us to the next stage of evolution would be harvesting helium 3, but that's never happening because muh politics, I guess a huge war and the eradication of the 90% of humankind is an option but I have the feeling we'll get to the 100% before that that happens.
why are spacetards so fricking stupid
it's always the I fricking love science types too that think we're somehow going to make it financially possible to build colonies on mars
nevermind the fact that living in a pod on a barren planet and never tasting real air or feeling sunlight on your skin will make you suicidal in less than 3 months
>never tasting real air or feeling sunlight on your skin will make you suicidal in less than 3 months
Look what we have here.
If I had set down time and my tasks were fixed, I could probably live on Mars in a habitat.
>lived in a single room for 5 years
Supply and demand. Thank you, this has been your 6th grade economics lesson
We can't necessarily live on the other planets in our solar system. They all lack a breathable atmosphere (air) and an ecosystem (where we get food from).
earth took literally a billion year to "terraform" itself, good luck doing that to another plant
Wasn't the whole movie about them figuring out a math equation that somehow nullified gravity? And they found it through the power of love?
and yet the worst part about the movie was that magic taxi cab shuttle that can make it in and out of a planet with 1.4x the gravity of earth while needing a whole damn booster rocket to escape earth's gravity.
Colonizing space besides scientific outposts is a meme. All other planets are barren rocks.
space travel is more expensive than hollywood and doesn't make it's money back like movies do
6?
Are you high? Mars is red antarctica but colder and way more radiation btw doesnt count, and Titan is extremely cold with no breathable atmosphere, water, or soil that could sustain our life
Venus is frickin ezmodo moron
The real reason is because it would destroy the economy. That's why every nation on the planet is hesitant to go out there. Right now they have control. If you suddenly have everyone and their mother mining the asteroid field for all its mineral wealth the economy on Earth would be in shambles
yeah, thats why european kingdoms stopped sailors from bringing valuable spices from india that were 100x more valuable than gold and banned boats forever. oh wait a minute, they actually funded it in exchange for getting a piece of the pie
Yeah, and the influx of gold destroyed the economy. That's what the Spanish found out.
The only reason rare minerals have wealth is because they are rare.
Its partially why the israelites keep many diamonds locked away in a vault. If every dumbass could find a diamond by digging around in his backyard, diamonds would be worth a fraction of what they are today.
Basically it would expose the artificial scarcity of gold.
Thankfully we don‘t have a gold backed currency anymore so I don‘t see the issue
>6 minimum we could be living on
what other planets are these? and how do you get there with current tech/resources?
there's a very logical reason for that
>when there's 6 minimum we could be living on
name one
we need more farmers to feed the useless eaters so we can send them to school so they can learn politically correct information about the moon landing so they wont vote for a new politican who might build spaceships to get us off this dying world.
>anon watches bill hicks for the first time
they dont want you to escape. just think about it. when the new world was found, what happened? everyone who hated the richgays fricked off and made their owncountry, then they revolted against the rich gays and becamse the most powerful country in the world. Imagine how paranoid the richgays would be if we could just frick off to another planet and do it all over again but with modern technology. Theyd be wasting all their time jerking off over climate change and growing their useless poppulation of 10 billion sub 90 iq morons while gigachad space explorers would be building all kinds of crazy shit that one day might be used to reconquer the earth.
no anon, you areent allowed to leave. please wage slave and pay taxes so they can grow more africans and indians.
The rich are 100% going to space to try and escape the upcoming climate collapse to live in luxury with robots and shit on Mars fricking each other's daughters while the Earth goes to shit. Given a few generations, the plebs on Earth will manage to pull together after an initial war ravages the planet, and the inbred morons on Mars will have probably asphyxiated because some dipshit was too lazy to get their robot to do airlock maintenance.
spend the rest of your remaining days in a spaceship w/ limited resources never nearing any other habitable planet
Why don't we make transporters already?
Because most people don't want to get killed and replace by a clone every time they walk in an glorified elevator
> we never landed people on the moon
> it was Kubrick
> this last "space race" was to cover up the fact we never went to the moon because china put some unmanned robots on the moon
>the earths magnetic field protects us from most of the shit that kills us but it still fricks humans up this is why we never go anywhere outside of it
> the Russians figured this out before US
> lol the space station is too costly to readjust its orbit so they have to spend millions on safely making it crash to earth
classic dipshit take
screenshot from movie that has a wormhole allowing interstellar travel possible
>why dont we fund that?
it's a movie. it's not real. humans cannot create artificial wormholes.
What was Plan A again? A giant space station I thought? But why wasn't it a viable Plan?
>What was Plan A again? A giant space station I thought? But why wasn't it a viable Plan?
anybody?
Plan A was to find the solution to the gravity control problem so everyone could get off Earth and go to some other habitable planet beyond the wormhole. It was never seriously considered to be achievable. Instead Plan B, setting up a colony on a habitable world beyond the wormhole, was the more viable option. They never thought they'd actually get the solution to the gravity equation
Thanks.
Going to space, doesn't make a financial return, at least for now.
The space movies filled the gaps in our mind. We know they aren't real. But we need them to believe in space because the metaphorical vacuum of good space footage that is real is so lame we would question it otherwise. People know the Martian is a B's movie, but they are surprised man hasnt stepped foot on mars. They thought it already happens.
Now step 2 blows your mind. Space is a real force in our lives because of make believe. There are scientists out there that were inspired to choose their careers because of their love of star trek.
Space is either actually fake or functionally fake, but it feels more real because it has be constructed to live in our heads and produce measurable economic results.
Time was a force to be mined. But it is not real. Time can be measured in the other things attached to it. Not time itself.
So they gave us space time. And next is the multiverse. But they are all imaginary pyramid schemes to be mined of value until there is nothing left to mine and so another conceptual layer is added.
You could just look out and see the world is flat and time and space don't exist.
>all of these morons talking about how impossible it is to travel huge distances as if we aren't less than 3 decades away from the singularity
Dumbshits, you aren't going to physically travel to other systems in your meaty flesh body, your consciousness will be uploaded in the cloud and reinstalled in a new synthetic body upon arrival. Some of you have a myopic view of how different humanity is going to look in a hundred years*
*(nuclear annihilation not withstanding)
Information still can't travel faster than the speed of light
Irrelevant. It doesn't matter how long it takes. If your consciousness is "asleep" in the cloud during the journey, any amount of time is instantaneous from your POV.
microwave cell phone some how instantly hacking cern hadron collider and perfectly sending said info through the cell hone signal exactly as the micro black hole is formed at an exact time in time space
you forgot the banana
you cant do jackshit on anything less than 50 Billion
We are being deliberately held back by nefarious forces
Go live in Alaska or polar Russia. See how you like it there (nobody does like it there, it sucks and destroys your health fast). See if you want to move to Antarctica and live on ice next. Then go live in underwater baloon see if it's fun after a week sitting in a box. Keep in mind you can always leave you are not stuck there wanting to have a nice day for being so stupid.
Its still way too much money plus it doesnt matter how much money you have to throw at it, there arent enough people who know how to do that shit properly, to the point that if you have a lot of money youd likely just be trying to poach people who are already working on it and only achieve to make them wealthier but not speed up shit.
If you want space exploration all you can really do is fund a lot more programs for education on it, which also implies guaranteeing income for the high skilled high IQ people studying it (most that have the brains for it prefer to do other shit that gives more money and doesnt make you move to New Mexico or wherever)
>tldr: nasa diversity hires
Yeap its an odd place they are at
>not enough actual intelligent people signing up
>you make incentives to get more people to sign up and hope some are high iq
>zero guarantee thats the case, and likely isnt because you offer way less money than the private sector on average and need to relocate and work in site and so on
because only in the movies is something interesting there once you get there
The knowledge died with them
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