That's literally what this entire thread is about.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The thread is just asking why you don't see more big breasts in western animation. Didn't specify them be uncensored or from kid's shows (op pic is ATHF). Christ, what you're talking about doesn't even exist in anime (anymore).
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>big breasts don't exist in anime anymore
One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
I mean uncensored ones.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>repeating that stupid misleading clickbait by a blogger who can't read data table headings
Come on man do better than that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I was mostly joking, as you basically have to ignore all adult animation if you want to pretend that no "Western" (read, American) animation has big breasts in them anymore.
>One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
I mean uncensored ones.
If you're talking about regular ecchi or hentai, they still exist. It's less that breasts got taken out and more they were censored to motivate people to by the uncensored Blurays.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The thread is just asking why you don't see more big breasts in western animation. Didn't specify them be uncensored or from kid's shows (op pic is ATHF). Christ, what you're talking about doesn't even exist in anime (anymore).
Frick off pedophile
>big breasts don't exist in anime anymore
One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
Anime is not for kids
Gooners like you need to be lynched.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Anime is not for kids
Not in Japan anymore
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're not Japanese and no media outside of America abides to their views. As a English speaker, you should realize this.
>be ugly/fat woman >see men looking at better looking women (fictional or real) >try everything to get rid of them (ugly is real, obesity is healthy, the way women looked just 20 years ago somehow is unrealistic today etc...)
They just continued what the Christians were doing in the 20th Century. The only reason why it seemed like things were different in the 2000s was because you were on the internet and cable was still big enough for people to see softcore Skinimax stuff.
Because of moral majority Christian prudes (historically) and upright Leftist prudes (currently). The only place where you could see big breasts were underground comix or cape comic books in the 90s, and even those were frowned upon by the general public. Hell; we had the Comic Code Authority get founded partially because of comics in the 40s being as softcore as you could get back then without being porn.
There's a reason why the mid 90s pitch for anime was "THERE'S BLOOD, VIOLENCE, BIG breasts AND SEX IN THESE CARTOONS!"
You and I both know that he means "big breasts" like picrel and not just "women with a defined chest". Because, if it's the later, cape comics still have them; they just don't have their breasts hanging out anymore.
It alienates female viewers usually. Only men find the character design appealing and generally the designs have to appeal to the widest audience possible or lose viewers. Losing viewers gets you canceled. I'm the only girl I know who watches Venture Bros and I think it's because it looks like a boy show. Season 1 is also a slog.
In a world where parents are forming actual lynch mobs to ban books from libraries the libraries don't even have, you think you can casually put fat breasts in cartoons?
Nah, rethink that.
>It'd be weird if Kikis mom had a huge rack.
Why? Women can have big racks. Breasts are a noticeable characteristic of a woman's silhouette. Cartooning has a lot to do with making interesting silhouettes (among other things regarding character design), so there is no problem with some characters having big racks.
I will even go a step further and say that if the show's main audience is children, then a woman's rack will be even more noticeable to a kid especially if it's big. You were a child once, you remember how huge adults seemed.
I was a child once and I never noticed womens breasts. Not unless they were overly accentuated in media. There is a problem with huge breasts being a part of a characters silhouette because they aren't just a part of the anatomy of the character they're sexualized by our soci.
Most (western) writers want their characters to be taken seriously and having big breasts is the antithesis of that. Put big fat breasts on a well written character and guess which one people will care about more.
Every once in a while you get an artist so base they can seamlessly combine something that should be porn with something that should be a genuine story and it somehow works and isn't cringe shit like Tarot.
But Cinemaphile doesn't like that answer, its more about trying to get a mainstream show/series to "just have a girl with big breasts and maybe only have 1 or two jokes about it otherwise it's just her body.
Cinemaphile craves the "war with the censor" context of things and then seethes when the censor becomes too strong.
Even bigger question begs to be asked, could the west even make an Ecchi if it wanted to? Like, all the hang-ups over breast size in women characters are just the front door of a building.
Standards and practices. Censors tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to big breasts in American cartoons. For that reason a lot of the stuff made by US companies tend to scale back breasts so they aren't as big or as obvious, so they don't get slapped for making something too sexualized. And a lot of the west follows suit because they don't want their shows to be removed from American television. It should also be stated that often times the same standards and practices groups work in both adult and child entertainment when it comes to cartoons so they sometimes slap adult shows down for breasts, too.
I guess the idea boils down to is: "Big boobs sexual and sexual no good for TV". Also, if it's a real person on a live action show, you can't help it if their breasts are big so they're allowed to flaunt it or show them off. But if it's animation, you had to make a conscious effort to give a character big breasts and that's unnecessary and sexual.
This is also why American cartoons give girls big asses. It's sort of a holdover from an era where breasts were really scrutinized, so some animators gave women big butts instead and the censors didn't bat an eyelash because they didn't see that as being as sexual as giving a woman big breasts. Both of these things are very slowly changing, by the way. But it's unclear to what extent because most networks go through different groups for standards and practices. Also, those groups will change over time and change their minds over time even if they're the same group, so shit gets weird. A good example of this is the Samurai Jack AS season where Standards and Practices had a huge fight for weeks with Genndy Tartakovsky of all people over whether or not he was allowed to put an X on a dogs butt. They told him it wasn't okay, he argued it was fine 15 years ago, they argued times had changed, he argued they were mostly the same people, etc etc etc.
Also, we sometimes call the big butt thing "Hartman Hips" after Butch Hartman, but he didn't actually come up with the idea. He wasn't the first. He just used it a lot so people took notice of it (pretty much every Butch Hartman woman has a large butt). I would even argue none of his designs are the the best examples of it, but he still got that shit named after him. Go figure. Hartman actually got away with giving characters breasts on occasion because Nickelodeon was apparently bipolar as frick when it came to standards, by the way.
Frick off
Actual question
Can you think of any cartoons besides stripperella?
What does it brings to the medium besides cheap titillations.
Representation.
Gottemmmmm
Unironically this. What would having chubby characters bring to the medium? There’s plenty of those for some reason.
Fat people are to laugh at
Cooming outside of a woman's pussy is a mental illness, chuddy
Wrong, since you hate black people in media (see the Sasuke meltdown on Cinemaphile)
Tittylations
Goddamnit Carlos.
>What does it brings to the medium besides what it brings to the medium?
Midwit detected.
Tripping the Rift.
Good cartoon that
It's really not, but it makes for good fap-fuel.
Censored shit. Also, it's an adult cartoon so it doesn't count.
So you want uncensored big breasts from children's cartoons?
That's literally what this entire thread is about.
The thread is just asking why you don't see more big breasts in western animation. Didn't specify them be uncensored or from kid's shows (op pic is ATHF). Christ, what you're talking about doesn't even exist in anime (anymore).
>big breasts don't exist in anime anymore
One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
>One of the main characters in the manga that outsold the entirety of the American comic book industry not only has big breasts, but they uniform explicitly exposes them.
I mean uncensored ones.
>repeating that stupid misleading clickbait by a blogger who can't read data table headings
Come on man do better than that.
I was mostly joking, as you basically have to ignore all adult animation if you want to pretend that no "Western" (read, American) animation has big breasts in them anymore.
If you're talking about regular ecchi or hentai, they still exist. It's less that breasts got taken out and more they were censored to motivate people to by the uncensored Blurays.
Frick off pedophile
Anime is not for kids
Gooners like you need to be lynched.
>Anime is not for kids
Not in Japan anymore
You're not Japanese and no media outside of America abides to their views. As a English speaker, you should realize this.
Yes, why waste big milkies on ugly hags?
>USA media is all of western media!
Yo wtf
Welcome to the kinds of stories you can tell when your country's Christian population had no puritan influence.
because woman sadly have to be listened to, case in point
Find another website
because that's objectification of the female body and that's bad
In adult media shouldn't we be more acceptable of every body type because we're adults
As far as ((they)) are concern, busty women shouldn't exist, much less be given representation
How
>be ugly/fat woman
>see men looking at better looking women (fictional or real)
>try everything to get rid of them (ugly is real, obesity is healthy, the way women looked just 20 years ago somehow is unrealistic today etc...)
Because of trannies and feminists.
Yep, SJWs ruined everything
They just continued what the Christians were doing in the 20th Century. The only reason why it seemed like things were different in the 2000s was because you were on the internet and cable was still big enough for people to see softcore Skinimax stuff.
Boobs threaten the typical Californian mental patient
Cause you just look at cartoons for babies
>"Durrrrr, how come Gravity Falls doesn't have well defined boobas?"
Because of moral majority Christian prudes (historically) and upright Leftist prudes (currently). The only place where you could see big breasts were underground comix or cape comic books in the 90s, and even those were frowned upon by the general public. Hell; we had the Comic Code Authority get founded partially because of comics in the 40s being as softcore as you could get back then without being porn.
There's a reason why the mid 90s pitch for anime was "THERE'S BLOOD, VIOLENCE, BIG breasts AND SEX IN THESE CARTOONS!"
>cape comic books in the 90s
And 70s and 80s and 00s. Are you moronic or just never actually read comics until recently?
You and I both know that he means "big breasts" like picrel and not just "women with a defined chest". Because, if it's the later, cape comics still have them; they just don't have their breasts hanging out anymore.
it instantly makes women seethe, just check this thread
Kids shouldn't be looking at boobs.
Do kids love them boobs though?
Large Breasted women are oppressed and lack representation.
Communists want to destroy the reality of womanhood. The brainwashed masses are taught to shun and despise female sexuality.
Who's that?
>reality of womanhood
Man if yer gonna say that post an actual fricking woman that a normal man would be attracted to not a fricking cartoon animal
I think anyone attracted to any other animal but human being need to be genetically wiped off the map. Disney is why these troons exist.
Bunny Maloney
>le wacky burrito haha so randumb xd
>god forbid we put breasts on an actual woman
i hate modern animation so fricking much
That's from the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie from 2007; an era full of big breasts spilling out of clothes in cartoons and comics.
>modern animation
that's from 20 years ago
Because coomers are a cancer to Cinemaphile - Comics & Cartoons.
okay tumblr
Better then Fujos and Trannies. Which one are you?
It alienates female viewers usually. Only men find the character design appealing and generally the designs have to appeal to the widest audience possible or lose viewers. Losing viewers gets you canceled. I'm the only girl I know who watches Venture Bros and I think it's because it looks like a boy show. Season 1 is also a slog.
Are you fat
In a world where parents are forming actual lynch mobs to ban books from libraries the libraries don't even have, you think you can casually put fat breasts in cartoons?
Nah, rethink that.
You don't even see big breasts in children's media in other countries animation. It'd be weird if Kikis mom had a huge rack.
>It'd be weird if Kikis mom had a huge rack.
Why? Women can have big racks. Breasts are a noticeable characteristic of a woman's silhouette. Cartooning has a lot to do with making interesting silhouettes (among other things regarding character design), so there is no problem with some characters having big racks.
I will even go a step further and say that if the show's main audience is children, then a woman's rack will be even more noticeable to a kid especially if it's big. You were a child once, you remember how huge adults seemed.
I was a child once and I never noticed womens breasts. Not unless they were overly accentuated in media. There is a problem with huge breasts being a part of a characters silhouette because they aren't just a part of the anatomy of the character they're sexualized by our soci.
Counterpoint, do you actually WANT boobs in cartoons?
Modern cartoons are ugly, especially "adult" cartoons, big boobs aren't going make anyone find this attractive.
They can't deal with it
because you like to cherrypick and b***h about how "woke" all western media is.
You act like every woman outside of western animation has fetish breasts, when I know that's not true.
Most (western) writers want their characters to be taken seriously and having big breasts is the antithesis of that. Put big fat breasts on a well written character and guess which one people will care about more.
Fat, ugly, and flat characters also aren't taken seriously
>who is quasimodo
So you just hate women, gotcha.
you're the one trying to erase women
Women isn't defined by men.
Then how do you explain Tessa Theus?
Every once in a while you get an artist so base they can seamlessly combine something that should be porn with something that should be a genuine story and it somehow works and isn't cringe shit like Tarot.
But Cinemaphile doesn't like that answer, its more about trying to get a mainstream show/series to "just have a girl with big breasts and maybe only have 1 or two jokes about it otherwise it's just her body.
Cinemaphile craves the "war with the censor" context of things and then seethes when the censor becomes too strong.
1)we do have plenty of big boobed characters and boob jokes
2) we are LESS degenerate than Japan actually
3)hentai is not produced here
Why did Shake kill himself when she showed up?
He took himself out the movie for now until he respawn.
Someone should have forced John K. to animte an entire porn segment of her for ruining it with an unfunny Stimpy ass gag.
>T. Ren
We used to in the long long ago.
This shirt design makes no sense. Without the cleavage the o's in too would be too far apart. The 7.8 and "o much milk" should be stretched out too.
Were we done with this?
Add burrito
The stripper from ATHF is there, rules are only the biggest rep from a show. No duplicates.
>Cleveland Show AND Family Guy
Yes, they are different shows.
The titty chart has two entries from Immigrants.
Alice would fit
Who is pic related?
I don't think we ever got the information for her.
You could easily have picked some decent coombait but instead you went a different route and honestly that's respectable
>implying frickable Tina Fey Burrito isn't coombait
Even bigger question begs to be asked, could the west even make an Ecchi if it wanted to? Like, all the hang-ups over breast size in women characters are just the front door of a building.
Would it be like Drawn-together but more raunchy?
No.
I think western cartoonists are incapable of making something without mocking it in some way. At least, I'm that way as much as I hate it.
Because men like big boobs and society hates men.
Standards and practices. Censors tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to big breasts in American cartoons. For that reason a lot of the stuff made by US companies tend to scale back breasts so they aren't as big or as obvious, so they don't get slapped for making something too sexualized. And a lot of the west follows suit because they don't want their shows to be removed from American television. It should also be stated that often times the same standards and practices groups work in both adult and child entertainment when it comes to cartoons so they sometimes slap adult shows down for breasts, too.
I guess the idea boils down to is: "Big boobs sexual and sexual no good for TV". Also, if it's a real person on a live action show, you can't help it if their breasts are big so they're allowed to flaunt it or show them off. But if it's animation, you had to make a conscious effort to give a character big breasts and that's unnecessary and sexual.
This is also why American cartoons give girls big asses. It's sort of a holdover from an era where breasts were really scrutinized, so some animators gave women big butts instead and the censors didn't bat an eyelash because they didn't see that as being as sexual as giving a woman big breasts. Both of these things are very slowly changing, by the way. But it's unclear to what extent because most networks go through different groups for standards and practices. Also, those groups will change over time and change their minds over time even if they're the same group, so shit gets weird. A good example of this is the Samurai Jack AS season where Standards and Practices had a huge fight for weeks with Genndy Tartakovsky of all people over whether or not he was allowed to put an X on a dogs butt. They told him it wasn't okay, he argued it was fine 15 years ago, they argued times had changed, he argued they were mostly the same people, etc etc etc.
Also, we sometimes call the big butt thing "Hartman Hips" after Butch Hartman, but he didn't actually come up with the idea. He wasn't the first. He just used it a lot so people took notice of it (pretty much every Butch Hartman woman has a large butt). I would even argue none of his designs are the the best examples of it, but he still got that shit named after him. Go figure. Hartman actually got away with giving characters breasts on occasion because Nickelodeon was apparently bipolar as frick when it came to standards, by the way.
Pearl-clutching christians ruin everything
it's haram