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Why Exactly Does King Hate It?
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Because Kubrick made an actually scary movie and not a Goosebumps shit with living bushes and fire hoses that King wrote.
>Kubrick made an actually scary movie
Do you have any evidence to prove this?
>Spooky Shelley Duvall Face
Try "sexy". Shes sexy as frick in this movie
>king wrote the shining basically projecting his own problems with alcohol in jack torrance's character
>kubrick made jack an alcoholic bastard with zero redeeming qualities
there, it's not that dificult to understand.
This. Kubrick just used the story as a jumping off point to do his own this and King took it personally.
This. He recognized jack as kings self insert and made him a prick. King remains forever ass hurt to this day.
Bill was also King's self insert as well.
He does like putting himself in his own stories, sometimes literally like in the Dark Tower series.
I wouldn't say zero redeeming qualities. Kubrick's Jack has a quicker temper and its not built up like in 1997 tv movie.
Hit too close to home.
Kubrick made King's self insert a violent butthole who blames anything but himself for all his problems.
King made a metaphor for alcoholism/ quitting drinking, Kubrick took all the relevant parts for that to make sense out and turned it into a meaningless le spooky ghost story.
He hates the film because the character of Jack Torrance is based on Stephen King himself. While in the novel Torrance is a good man overwhelmed by evil, Kubrick’s Jack Nicholson is a bad man from the start. King didn’t like that change.
He didn't leave the part of the boiler room that would have blown up the entire hotel if you don't constantly keep watching it before it overloads.
Just read the book. There's next to no characterization in the movie and the payoff is non-existent. This movie is unironically for pseuds. Reddit's perfect horror movie.
>Creepy British twins
OMG
>Spooky Nicholson Face
OMG
>Spooky Shelley Duvall Face
OMG
>That child said murder backwards really creep while bending his finger
OMG
>Elevator full of blood
OMG
>Gay fellatio with animal masks
OMG
>Indian Burial Ground
OMG
>t. double digit IQ
It's because Kubrick was an atheist, while King is a moral therapeutic deist. The latter was profoundly disturbed by the former's worldview.
>while King is a moral therapeutic deist
aka an atheist
Called him out for being a crappy dad. Called him out for being a casual racist.
Kubrick basically stripped away the cope and made the story better.
Fine I'm ruining the book. Frick you morons. Instead of freezing to death in a maze, the dad lets the boiler of the hotel blow so that the Overlook is a crater. The hotel was trying to make him stop the boiler from exploding but his last piece of humanity let his son and wife escape. That's it, frick you. You deserve the dumb scene where Jack Nicholson is frozen in the maze and gets outsmarted by a 5 year old.
That's the point, numb nuts. It was a laughable, self serving redemption. Kubrick stripped it out for the same reason you love it.
So what happens to his spirit? He just hangs around in the boonies haunting a crater?
Man, can you imagine a hotel having such a dangerous boiler that can wipe out the entire establishment, and then leaving it in the hands of a some former drunk who nearly ran over some kid on his bike?
>hire visionary director who you probably admire to adapt your book
>director makes a legendary film
>the entire film is a big middle finger to you
>have to pay director for this and give him royalties
>seethe for the rest of your life
Pottery.
How would you feel if someone reproduced your work and basically made it obsolete?
Kubrick took King's mediocre book (honestly not worth reading) and rewrote much of it to make a really brilliant film. It's envy, basically. The film eclispes the book it was based on in every conceivable way.
The mini series looks so stupid.
The old lady in 237 has much better makeup in the miniseries
>The old lady in 237 has much better makeup in the miniseries
You hag grabbers are disgusting.
The miniseries' Wendy was far closer to the book. I still don't know why Duvall was cast here, she was supposed to be a hot bombshell, King's wish fulfillment.
you mean like this?
King had a lot of control of the casting, so yeah, this is what he wants in a woman.
Ment for
I have not read the book so perhaps I'm missing context, but to me if wendy is meant to be some strong beautiful woman why would she be staying with a guy that abused her son and was a drunk? I feel the casting of shelly makes a lot more sense considering she seems like the kind of person that would make excuses for jacks behaviour and ultimately adds more to the subjext of abuse within the family.
>I feel the casting of shelly makes a lot more sense considering she seems like the kind of person that would make excuses for jacks behaviour and ultimately adds more to the subjext of abuse within the family.
I have read the book and you're 100% correct. Kubrick saw the description of Shelly as the wank fantasy it was and replaced it with something much more realistic.
If you don’t think this is a 10/10 piece of ass than you’re low T
Are you fricking her gap tooth anon?
He's right, anon. Shelley Duvall was a roaring flame at her peak.
Well he chose a great photo...
Well, she was gangly and quirky. No getting away from that. You'll learn to appreciate uniqueness more as you get older.
yeah those two front teeth scraping off my epidermis, yum
A woman like that will bear you sons with healthy, sturdy dentition
Every time I see her all I can hear mentally is “Charlie don’t surf”. Same with BDH and Richie from happy days.
He was publicly slighted and put in his place by Kubrick whose talent and vision were much greater than King's
King hates subliminal messages and pretentious "deep" shit. King makes fun horror movies with creative themes.
Skating a bit too close to "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards" there.
Well then he should have hired Micheal bay.
Tim Burton would have done it more justice imo.
>Tim Burton
He’s good as long as you keep him away from the wardrobe department, everyone dressing up in black or a 30’s chain gang outfit is annoying. We fricking get it, you’re gothic or whatever.
>being moronic on purpose is actually le enlightening and intellectual
we're reaching Planck levels of contrarianism
i read the book when i was like 13 and i remember noticing that the suite 237 scene was on page 237 and laughed my ass off. stephen king is honestly a decent storyteller and people kinda rip on him unfairly but damn was that corny
kubrick direction + jack nicholson acting means a far better story and infinitely more iconic and King is jealous cause its not exactly what he wrote, wonder how he feels about IT thats also much better than the book
They skipped the baby gangbang scene. King did NOT like that.
Drrrrrrugs and booooooze.
Yep Kubrick dissed King a few times in the movie, but that's Hollywood; 'I'm the director and you're the writer, you're lower than me and I'm going to point that out.'
Kubrick had a lot of that too though, Kirk Douglas argued with him on Spartacus and fled away on horseback leaving Kubrick in his dust. 'You're the junior replacement director and I'm the big star, you're lower than me.'
Douglas's mog only exists in anecdote though, and will be lost to time.
Its in a big bio so no, it won't be ever lost
There's a new bio come out recently which apparently goes into the 14 years he was smoking weed and playing GTA
he was handsome as a young man but the genes really betrayed him
He got his actress wife then didn't need to try anymore
Idgi
All work and no play makes me a dull boy.
The Tommyknockers is the worst book I've ever read. I think King doesn't even remember writing it.
AS mentioned Jack is a self-insert for King (like all of his alcoholic writer characters).
This is like filming a drunk during one of his sloppy binges and showing him the next day. King is mad because he didn't like having a mirror held up to him.
>Writer writes himself as the main character
Yeah it's a self-insert you moron, he's mad because Kubrick completely disregarded what he wrote and turned him into a psychopathic lunatic.
He's mad because he thought he was a wacky, cool drunk artist and was mortified to find that people who aren't addled see him as a psychopathic lunatic.
Thank god he did or the movie would have sucked balls.