Why has one succeeded and the other failed?

Why has one succeeded and the other failed?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BIG

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BLUE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BLUE

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BLUE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WAND

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is a racetrack in Mario Kart

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    america decides the success of a series, and americans have no clue what bongland is actually like irl, so you had people going to see the movies because they thought it was interesting that the british had incorporated magic in their day to day lives. on the other hand no one in the states would be interested in watching a movie about some kid who's into greek mythology, aka a nerd

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More importantly, it's literally the inverse of Harry Potter - in HP you escape the boring modern world to get into the magical isekai, whereas in this Percy Jackson thing you escape the magical isekai to get into the boring modern world. You gotta be moronic to not understand the appeal of Harry Potter and write a book(?) and make a film in this manner.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      um actually I go to Bongland on Google Earth all the time?????! as a matter of fact, I'm there right now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a Europe? Or just in the slightly in the wrong demographic (nowadays not even underage) to understand why it worked at the time. There was nothing like Harry Potter at the time. It was just insane there was that many movies following a single story with a single cast. You can't really recreate that, because Harry Potter started the book craze (most people read less before it too) and the trend of long running stories. And it wasn't good. They're shit generic movies and generic books, but it hadn't been done before so it got everyone hyped. Also Harry Potter left in shit for parents taking their kids by getting really competent adult actors to make the right facial expressions at each other in the background that kid viewers didn't pick up on, but gave the adults enough to keep their attention. The time is wrong for Percy Jackson, the readers are now adults who are now not so interested in it, they can't recreate the craze of Harry Potter, they made half the cast black, and not kids (kids now didn't read these books) don't want to follow shows with a bunch of kids anymore so you'd have to add content with the gods, but Percy Jackson is a hard series to shoehorn adult actors into.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Greek mythology works, see Kevin Sorbo's Hercules series, and the spin-off Xena Warrior Princess.

      Percy Jackson failed because you can't sell the Greek pantheon as mixed race. Occasionally an Asian or African would wander up to Greece or the heroes would go to some far off land but ultimately it was a white show for white mythology. Mutting up Percy Jackson was a death sentence.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ayo hol up

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i never knew anyone to read percy jackson books
    maybe they exist
    but almost everyone that was a girl or half a gay read harry potter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People start reading Harry Potter rip-offs after they're done reading/watching Harry Potter for the 50th time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      theatre girls loved that shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah they also loved that movie about the owls. Eragor and the dragon or some shit? also arthur fowl or whatever it was. just a trust-fund harry potter ripoff

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I read and enjoyed all of these
          >I am a male
          What does this mean, bros?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Depends how old you were at the time.
            Artemis Fowl is particular was aimed at pre teen boys that were just getting edgy enough to root for the bad guy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm pretty sure Artemis is the reason I use Cinemaphile today

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're based.
            >Owls of Ga'Hoole
            fantasy Watership Down with owls from what I remember
            >Eragon
            Shit but the dragon was smoking hot and Eragon's cousin or whatever was cool
            >Artemis Fowl
            fricking kino

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because deh

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because Percy Jackson is a godawful ripoff of Harry Potter

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >percy
    oh, i get it. like Persius. very clever i guess?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not calling it Class of the Titans
      They wanted to fail.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >real thing vs bargain bin version
    >rowling keeping such a leash on production ensured Spielberg wouldn’t be in a position to frick up the whole appeal of the mania and kept the casting relatively accurate
    >one was a project that the studio very clearly cared about, the other was a blatant cash grab riding on the former making the genre profitable
    >abridgement of HP just cut out side details while largely sticking to the books where possible, while PJ’s abridgement made it utterly nonsensical while making it barely keep the beats in place, let alone specifics

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shieeeet

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter has comfy British aesthetics.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Book accurate-ish vs half remembered dream of the books

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can get a magic card and go to Hogwarts, but you're not the son of some God.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The first two movies were charming and made people get invested in the characters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Harry Potter? yeah.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, the HP movies.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The fandom and the feeling of "belonging" in something. Hogwarts houses are kind of the same like Avatar tribes, people can talk about where they'd belong which keeps sales high.
    PJ has nothing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't they have houses in the camp? That you were put on depending on who your parent was?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    so yo be sayun

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >american harry potter
    >has Black folk in the cast
    heh

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    YOU'RE A WIZZARD HARRY

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im a wot!?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        YER A WOMBAT 'ARRY

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter was held together by good adult actors and got better over time Whereas the pj series started rather mediocre and then immediately flopped with a really shitty sequel which probably killed it ig

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Funnily enough, the sequel is more in-line with the books than the first one, which creates massive gaping plotholes like why Poseidon only communicates with Percy in cryptical, almost imperceptible ways, which is entirely at odds with how in the first movie he comes and goes as he pleases, or the weirdly rushed introduction of Kronos when in the books he's established as the big bad from the start.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The thing is... the books are not really that good or imaginative (the oh it's that thing from greek mythology but it is dressed as a modern clichê is only clever the first few times).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      PJ had some good adult actors, they just weren’t used for anything more than poster bait. Granted the source material is very heavily kid character focused, but they were pissing the source material up a wall anyway so that shouldn’t have stopped them.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter stayed mostly faithful to the source material while adding small imrpovements here and there, by the time the whole thing had turned into a green borefest the people were already invested.
    Percy Jackson is based on a much less compelling property and whatever charm it had was sucked away and replaced with exec meddling, if you ever read the books you'll immediately notice that the movies are NOTHING like the books, as in they're completely different stories, things are introduced long before they should, creating massive problems with the narrative of future stories, and everything has this weird fakeass Hollywood touch to it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are the PJ books any good? I'll never read them but just want to know.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They're for kids, mostly boys given the tone, similar to Harry Potter it gets progressively grittier as the books go but never too charged or complicated, Percy can be a little bit sue-ish but it is sorta justified given he's the son of one of the big three gods (Another character like him is introduced later on as a counterbalance) and he's also far more proactive than Harry Potter; all in all there's some really creative concepts at play too that really get the imagination going (Tough I would argue this is the one place the movies had an edge on) and the adventures the characters go on are fairly exciting.
        They're faily short books, so reading them is no issue particularly if you like Harry Potter, just do yourself a favor and stop after The Last Olympian, the newer books are really meh.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter had Emma. Simple as.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd still marry Emma. At least we'd have espresso martinis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          expresso*

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          still gorgeous

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          she's still beautiful. she's just not used to the fact that now bad angles/hairstyles/outfits/makeup is possible for her, which is something the other two are aware of. she's spent her whole life as an 11/10. 10 years ago it was literally impossible to take a bad photo of her. she needs to stop with the goofy outfits, goofy hairstyles, odd makeup choices and clean her self up like kstew in that photo and she looks amazing. there's plenty of photos of her from 2023 where she looks beautiful.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >vingardium copiumsa

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She'd make a nice trophy wife to a tech billionaire.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        she won.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          10/10, would kiss.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          She has masculine features, if you changed her hair for a short do she'd look like an armenian man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they were brothers wtf was Hunter games about then

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It needed more Thalia

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shieeeet

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >book 1’s twist is that Hades was never the bad guy, and he was only assumed to be because of the bad adaptions constantly painting him as the villain
    >bad adaption paints him as the villain
    BRAVO, NOLAN

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter is more conductive to low effort escapist fantasies due to:
    All being set in 1 magical setting that is fairly well fleshed out, instead of a huge spanning world that is mostly just barely explored.
    Powers that is whatever you want rather than being tied to myth.
    Harry having his parentage hidden for him so kids can pretend they are secret wizards just like him.
    Houses that work like horoscopes, so kids can wonder what houses them and their friends would fit in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      das rite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Houses that work like horoscopes, so kids can wonder what houses them and their friends would fit in.
      YA tried so hard to copy this, and it worked fairly well for a lot of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Was Rowling actually the first to come up with the concept of child/teenager is put in group depending on what their traits are

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because one is a soulless American ripoff of the other?

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did it fail?

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because children desperately wanted to get a letter stating they are special and will be attending a school full of other special wizard children. Instead they live their boring lives being ignored by their parents and teachers and nothing of note happens to them.

    Harry Potter is an escapist reality for children.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As many have pointed out in this thread, but that I hope to make it clearer:
    Percy Jackson failed because it did not have a coherent aesthetic, while Harry Potter very much did.

    It's not because of the writing or the plot or whatever. JK sucked as a writer, but she did maintain a very english, middle-ages aesthetic, despite being modern urban fantasy. Meanwhile, Percy Jackson rejected the greek aesthetics almost completely. It might as well have been a modern US high school. It was fricking boring.

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