too many weak cowardly moralless girlymen in the world now and they'd be offended at every frame of the film
just imagine today's audiences reacting to this
but still it's not truly dead
there was still open range in 2003
and others
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000208965/
as time passes, the period gets further away from today's audiences, it's bad enough that modern WW2 films feel like cartoons and are full of actors and crew that never fought in any war, while classic WW2 films were full of actual veterans and actual equipment
They had stopped making westerns already. Westerns essentially died when the 70s did. Yes, Tombstone and Forgive exist, but they were deliberate throwbacks to an earlier cultural time. Honestly once Clint and Wayne stopped making them the American public slowly declined in interest afterwards
>They had stopped making westerns already. Westerns essentially died when the 70s did.
No no. Classical western withered during the first half of the 60s and they were dead by the time the 68ers came around with very few notable exceptions (perhaps).
anti-western became popular after the genre had become somewhat stagnant, they changed and revitalized it. surely they were cream-of-the-crop among late western movies
21. The Magnificent Seven (2016)
PG-13 | 132 min | Action, Adventure, Western
6.8 Rate this 54 Metascore
Seven gunmen from a variety of backgrounds are brought together by a vengeful young widow to protect her town from the private army of a destructive industrialist.
Director: Antoine Fuqua | Stars: Denzel Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, Vincent D'Onofrio
Because westerns represent a time and place where white men ruled everything essentially by brute strength and intimidation. This is why the last big blockbuster western’s premise was entirely based on subverting that fact and coping that it was the other way
The western is capeshit for boomers. You can pick 10 random ones and 8 of them will follow the exact same tropes, have nearly identical plots, and have nearly identical sets and props.
- Sicario n. 1
- Shotgun Stories
- Mud
- No county for old men
- Hell or High Water
- Wind River
- also several cop/crime movies can be seen as “westerns” like A History of Violence
Great movie, but no wonder it flopped as hard as it did. Imagine the nightmare of promoting that film. Zero action and the finale is some mundane shit happens out of moronation from one of the main characters.
>advertised as a love triangle >it's actually about Everett's conflict whether he should keep things professional or get personal involved when he sees people taking advantage of his slightly moronic partner
It hasn't, but it should. The West never existed, it's a fabrication built on slavery and native genocide. Eventually, we'll get these films put on watchlists to make them inaccessible. They perpetuate narratives of white supremacy and the frontier myth. Cowboys were Black and Mexican farmhands, there were no epic gunfights. It's all bullshit meant to keep clueless white kids entertained. Unfortunately, Americans are such dumbfricks that the adults internalized the fabrication.
That’s absolutely correct.
White people got to colonize the west only recently. Idaho was 70% Black in the 1860s. Same as Nevada. Portland, Oregon was known as Landoporto, and it was a vibrantly inclusive Hispanic-Native city that thrived on equal commerce and cultural solidarity. San Francisco was almost exclusively Asian with few israeli merchants and Italian fishermen. The Grand Canyon was named after Afro-Caribbean explorer Kanyon LeGrand.
When will this buried history finally be addressed and celebrated?
It didn't had an actor who was associated with the genre for 40 years directing himself in a cinematic goodbye letter for his iconic characters.
Unforgiven had a lot more emotional worth on top of being a good movie.
there are specific films to blame >the lone ranger >cowboys & aliens >wild wild west >jonah hex
those are gargantuan, massive, all-time bombs that managed to kill the genre. hollywood exec's are terrified of giving significant cash for a western now so it's gonna' be impossible to get the budget we need for trigun
boring and played out
leone solved it decades ago
too many weak cowardly moralless girlymen in the world now and they'd be offended at every frame of the film
just imagine today's audiences reacting to this
but still it's not truly dead
there was still open range in 2003
and others
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000208965/
as time passes, the period gets further away from today's audiences, it's bad enough that modern WW2 films feel like cartoons and are full of actors and crew that never fought in any war, while classic WW2 films were full of actual veterans and actual equipment
>boring and played out
t. pleb
>leone solved it decades ago
t. pleb
zoom zoom
anti-westerns came and deconstructed it and at that point the culture was completely different
>anti-westerns came and deconstructed it
dont think thats what ruined it
brokeback mountain did it
They had stopped making westerns already. Westerns essentially died when the 70s did. Yes, Tombstone and Forgive exist, but they were deliberate throwbacks to an earlier cultural time. Honestly once Clint and Wayne stopped making them the American public slowly declined in interest afterwards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_films_of_the_1980s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_films_of_the_1990s
>They had stopped making westerns already. Westerns essentially died when the 70s did.
No no. Classical western withered during the first half of the 60s and they were dead by the time the 68ers came around with very few notable exceptions (perhaps).
anti-western became popular after the genre had become somewhat stagnant, they changed and revitalized it. surely they were cream-of-the-crop among late western movies
I don't think spaghetti westerns did that well in america
Jane Got A Gun with Natalie Portman is very underrated.
21. The Magnificent Seven (2016)
PG-13 | 132 min | Action, Adventure, Western
6.8 Rate this 54 Metascore
Seven gunmen from a variety of backgrounds are brought together by a vengeful young widow to protect her town from the private army of a destructive industrialist.
Director: Antoine Fuqua | Stars: Denzel Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, Vincent D'Onofrio
Votes: 210,246 | Gross: $93.43M
stick with the original for the superior magnificent theme
Because of Michael Cimino. But western as a genre don't die, it just turned into something similar but more modern, like cops movies.
I'd say it turned into star wars and thats a big part of the appeal
>it just turned into something similar but more modern, like cops movies.
Capeshit is the modern western.
Because westerns represent a time and place where white men ruled everything essentially by brute strength and intimidation. This is why the last big blockbuster western’s premise was entirely based on subverting that fact and coping that it was the other way
can anyone think of any films made after 2000 that have gunfights between cowboys and indians like this?
does Hollywood even have actors to play indians anymore? do they even have more than 10 horses?
>do they even have more than 10 horses?
They have as many horses as their computers can handle
The western is capeshit for boomers. You can pick 10 random ones and 8 of them will follow the exact same tropes, have nearly identical plots, and have nearly identical sets and props.
>nearly identical sets and props.
you being dumb right?
it's like complaining ww2 films always having tanks
HELL NO! Find me a ridiculously expensive western from the 30s-50s.
Contemporary westerners are legit.
- Sicario n. 1
- Shotgun Stories
- Mud
- No county for old men
- Hell or High Water
- Wind River
- also several cop/crime movies can be seen as “westerns” like A History of Violence
how is sicario a western, what is the designation or modern western?
Road House is a modern day western.
Also these:
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
Extreme Prejudice
>Shotgun Stories
Didn't like that one
Its not. The Western genre is succeeded by its location and about characters overcoming the unfavourable location they were in.
It's racist
I liked this one a lot
Great movie, but no wonder it flopped as hard as it did. Imagine the nightmare of promoting that film. Zero action and the finale is some mundane shit happens out of moronation from one of the main characters.
Old Henry
>advertised as a love triangle
>it's actually about Everett's conflict whether he should keep things professional or get personal involved when he sees people taking advantage of his slightly moronic partner
It hasn't, but it should. The West never existed, it's a fabrication built on slavery and native genocide. Eventually, we'll get these films put on watchlists to make them inaccessible. They perpetuate narratives of white supremacy and the frontier myth. Cowboys were Black and Mexican farmhands, there were no epic gunfights. It's all bullshit meant to keep clueless white kids entertained. Unfortunately, Americans are such dumbfricks that the adults internalized the fabrication.
That’s absolutely correct.
White people got to colonize the west only recently. Idaho was 70% Black in the 1860s. Same as Nevada. Portland, Oregon was known as Landoporto, and it was a vibrantly inclusive Hispanic-Native city that thrived on equal commerce and cultural solidarity. San Francisco was almost exclusively Asian with few israeli merchants and Italian fishermen. The Grand Canyon was named after Afro-Caribbean explorer Kanyon LeGrand.
When will this buried history finally be addressed and celebrated?
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homosexual OP trying to keep his thread alive through bait, dont give yous
moron
dont care, still bumpin pleb
westerns are the best genre
Western was the capeshit of the 50s to 70s. They just made a metric ton of it
westerns were actually good though
there's more soul in them, and the wild west is far more comfy
there's fantastic western though
>Bone Tomahawk is already seven years old
Frick, where did the time go?
Nobody experiences every day to its fullest. I know it sounds pseud but Alexender will live longer than any of us
Sci-fi replaced the Western genre
no, gritty, cynical "realism" did (filmed in eastmancolor). star wars was a reaction to that.
Unforgiven pretty much finished the genre, there were no western movies that came out after that that brought anything new to the table.
Blocks your path.
The last great american movie.
Absolutely kino.
There is nothing American in spirit about it
It didn't had an actor who was associated with the genre for 40 years directing himself in a cinematic goodbye letter for his iconic characters.
Unforgiven had a lot more emotional worth on top of being a good movie.
Have any of you guys watched an... "eastern"?
there are specific films to blame
>the lone ranger
>cowboys & aliens
>wild wild west
>jonah hex
those are gargantuan, massive, all-time bombs that managed to kill the genre. hollywood exec's are terrified of giving significant cash for a western now so it's gonna' be impossible to get the budget we need for trigun
because the Cowboy represents Freedom & Self Reliance which is the opposite of what men are supposed to be today.