Today, you really couldn't replicate the paranoia and thin patina of suffering that 1984 was so good at.
Sure, we live in a panopticon but everyone's fat and I can get anything I want with a click of a button. IngSoc was constantly rationing things and nothing tasted good.
If anything, Brave New World was closer than 1984.
>We're worse off than IngSoc
It's statements like these that make me question whether the poster actually read 1984.
I'm sorry, did your chocolate rations get increased to 20 grams, too? Did your mandated physical fitness programs not fix your obesity?
they will never adapt BNW properly because it would basically just be depicting the present day and have to show it as profoundly sick and wrong. People wouldn't get it - it being: why everything about modernity is fundamentally evil
The ultimate midwit moron saying is that the world is like brave new world
Yeah we live in a failed utopia where everyone is chemically and genetically programmed to be happy and there is no way or crime outside of extreme edge cases
We don't live in a world where three dominant powers fight in endless proxy wars even though the life of an average citizen can't be distinguished from one another
We also don't live in a world where these powers and their citizens have no real ideology and are just oscillating between convenient beliefs which possess instrumental utility in the moment
We don't live in a world where mass surveillance by a fascist fusion of state and corporation is not only a reality but is commonly accepted as a fact of life (and a preferable fact at that) by 99% of the population
Nope, were living in the brace new world timeline, not the 1984 timeline
You are a liar. Please stop lying. It takes decades for modest stands of trees, but you need hundreds of years for old growth forests that support many forms of life.
How old are you? Be honest.
I wonder if `1984` somehow contributed to the current state of the world.
Society trying to move away from `1984` only to the other end of the spectrum.
the more relevant part of 1984 is more the transformation of language for political purposes.
and to everyone saying "brave new world was more right about the future than 1984", I don't know why it has to be a competition between the two, both of them got some things right, and our current manufactured reality has also evolved in nuanced ways not predicted by either.
i don't know what the context of that pic is but i've seen a lot of basic stuff I took for granted in my youth go down the toilet over the years, i wouldn't blame anyone to try to ring the alarm and alert other people, even if they exaggerate or don't get everything 100% right. guerrilla tactics are required to resist the media's power to define what "reality" is.
Jesus fricking Christ, at what point in your life were you beaten for having sugar instead of sucrose? Or were you forced to drink degreaser and pretend it was gin?
>Jesus fricking Christ, at what point in your life were you beaten for having sugar instead of sucrose? Or were you forced to drink degreaser and pretend it was g-ACK
when during your development did the birthing matrix which formed you glitch and turn you into an annoying homosexual doomed to suffer and never enjoy the drug fueled orgies with the rest of the citizenry of the new world order?
same reason you also dont get a straightforward dantes divine comedy
pretentious writers and directors dont want to do these classics headon, they prefer to do their own schlock that just references it or is that but only in spirit
You’re living it
Today, you really couldn't replicate the paranoia and thin patina of suffering that 1984 was so good at.
Sure, we live in a panopticon but everyone's fat and I can get anything I want with a click of a button. IngSoc was constantly rationing things and nothing tasted good.
If anything, Brave New World was closer than 1984.
Frick that, we're worse off.
>We're worse off than IngSoc
It's statements like these that make me question whether the poster actually read 1984.
I'm sorry, did your chocolate rations get increased to 20 grams, too? Did your mandated physical fitness programs not fix your obesity?
its a hyperbolic statement to poke fun at the current system
calm your breasts gay
What's worse though - knowing you're suffering and miserable, or being programmed to think you're happy when deep down, you're not.
Brave new world is also a book
There's a film?
they will never adapt BNW properly because it would basically just be depicting the present day and have to show it as profoundly sick and wrong. People wouldn't get it - it being: why everything about modernity is fundamentally evil
1984 is the book most likely for someone to lie about reading.
This. But there totally should have been a modern adaptation.
the 1984 adaptation with john hurt has aged well and could hardly be improved.
can't have people become wise to what's going on
this
No lol we're much more closer to brave new world
The ultimate midwit moron saying is that the world is like brave new world
Yeah we live in a failed utopia where everyone is chemically and genetically programmed to be happy and there is no way or crime outside of extreme edge cases
We don't live in a world where three dominant powers fight in endless proxy wars even though the life of an average citizen can't be distinguished from one another
We also don't live in a world where these powers and their citizens have no real ideology and are just oscillating between convenient beliefs which possess instrumental utility in the moment
We don't live in a world where mass surveillance by a fascist fusion of state and corporation is not only a reality but is commonly accepted as a fact of life (and a preferable fact at that) by 99% of the population
Nope, were living in the brace new world timeline, not the 1984 timeline
>Why not both?
Now you can see the author of your image
I mean, he's not wrong
There are way more plants and forest than there were decades ago
You are a liar. Please stop lying. It takes decades for modest stands of trees, but you need hundreds of years for old growth forests that support many forms of life.
How old are you? Be honest.
I have a degree in environmental studies
..that doesn't mean jack shit, apparently.
tell this to the forest that was razed for a gated community near me.
You're a fraud either way.
>tell this to the forest that was razed for a gated community near me.
How am I supposed to tell it to a forest?
I'm seeing more Orwellian nonsense going on.
I wonder if `1984` somehow contributed to the current state of the world.
Society trying to move away from `1984` only to the other end of the spectrum.
How?
Nobody has rationed me anything, the worst thing I suffered was that my reservation at a bar I like was sold out, and covid doesn't count.
>Nobody has rationed me anything,
LOL!
ROTFLMAO even
It's true, any shit I want I can buy on the fricking internet.
Just wait 'til your energy use is limited. Environmental lockdowns are coming.
the more relevant part of 1984 is more the transformation of language for political purposes.
and to everyone saying "brave new world was more right about the future than 1984", I don't know why it has to be a competition between the two, both of them got some things right, and our current manufactured reality has also evolved in nuanced ways not predicted by either.
Yes, you're right, but you must admit that everyone especially in this place likes to exaggerate, as in this case
>Yes, you're right, but you must admit that everyone especially in this place likes to exaggerate, as in this case
Nah, nobody wants to talk about those two, well have a nice day byebye.
>Nah, nobody wants to talk about those two, well have a nice day by-ACK
i don't know what the context of that pic is but i've seen a lot of basic stuff I took for granted in my youth go down the toilet over the years, i wouldn't blame anyone to try to ring the alarm and alert other people, even if they exaggerate or don't get everything 100% right. guerrilla tactics are required to resist the media's power to define what "reality" is.
>Nobody has rationed me anything, the worst thing I suffered was that my reservation at a bar I like was sold out, and covid doesn't count.
Doubleplusgood post, citizen.
Jesus fricking Christ, at what point in your life were you beaten for having sugar instead of sucrose? Or were you forced to drink degreaser and pretend it was gin?
>Jesus fricking Christ, at what point in your life were you beaten for having sugar instead of sucrose? Or were you forced to drink degreaser and pretend it was g-ACK
when during your development did the birthing matrix which formed you glitch and turn you into an annoying homosexual doomed to suffer and never enjoy the drug fueled orgies with the rest of the citizenry of the new world order?
Fpbp. Checked.
>division makes us stronger than unity
And they never even had to explain this, just threaten people into accepting it
Because Brazil topped it
The first adaptation was much better.
same reason you also dont get a straightforward dantes divine comedy
pretentious writers and directors dont want to do these classics headon, they prefer to do their own schlock that just references it or is that but only in spirit
Because it shows a preferable reality to the current state of western civilization. Free market capitalism has collapsed the west
*leftism
Live Action 1984 is your life.
Plot isn't that interesting and Brave New World has proven much more prescient.
Brave New World may have been more prescient but the plot is fricking garbage noble savage shit.
Both BNW and 1984 loved jerking off Shakespeare though.
they both suck balls
Because current Hollywood doesn’t understand it.
oh hollywood does understand it, it just wants to do the opposite of what 1984 did for its audience
These kinds of movies and social criticisms are no longer allowed
there's the original film version which is still good, there's Brazil, there's 12 monkeys, etc what more do you want?
We live in a brave new world, I don't know why they like to pretend otherwise.
Modern Hollywood can't do 1984, it exposes their own doublethink/speak too much.