Why hasn't there been any other religious based animated features that are as great as this?
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Why hasn't there been any other religious based animated features that are as great as this?
Why hasn't there been any other religious based animated features that are as great as this?
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Christians are greedy
If they were greedy, they would make more of it. Hispanic and black animated movies are common though, and those are made my israeli people
The Tragedy Of Man?
>b-but that’s not in English
Sorry
Jankovics should be discussed more on Cinemaphile, even if it's just Tragedy of Man and Son of the White Mare. I've never even seen Hungarian Folk Tales mentioned once on Cinemaphile, despite Youtube having tons of episodes posted
European stuff in general is rarely discussed here, let alone anything without a translation. Which is a shame because Jankovics was a treasure.
Reminder that Jankovics also worked on a Bible adaptation before he began The Tragedy of Man, until his American backer disappeared and bankrupted the project. Only the Genesis scene got finished, decades later, but he couldn't secure funding for the rest.
Damn, what a crying shame. That little bit had some absolutely fantastic transitions in it.
the only good 2D Dreamworks film
>the only good 2D Dreamworks film
Good bait
fine. Spirit is sweet, if pretentious, and Sinbad is fun. Not gonna defend El Dorado tho. It has the worst story, pacing and ending of the bunch
And any of those movies have to do with religion how? Why do keep trying to derail threads all the time when you already were permabanned for it? You being an annoying asshat in every goddamn thread relating to Dreamworks is becoming a pretty good motivator for me to start reporting your ass.
Hottake: this movie did not need to be animated at all. 90% of it is just guys talking in rooms or tents.
the 2D Dreamworks films were live action inspired. It was a questionable style that only worked in this case. It didn't work in El Dorado, Spirit and Sinbad
Those movies actually do take advantage of the medium.
>It didn't work in El Dorado, Spirit and Sinbad
what!? all of those were great movies.
Don't engage, just tell him to frick himself.
Speaking of which, frick you.
Like what
said, what about characters like Eris? She pushes the 2D animation to it's limits. I don't even want to imagine a CGI Eris. Just because those mediums didn't try it in every scene doesn't mean they're not good use of 2D. It added a layer of realism to it and I think of those movies as not being so superfluous as a lot of modern 3D Illumination style films are.
Spirit doesn't need to be grandiose because it's on a lot of flat prairie and they're horses, no fantasy elements.
I think of El Dorado as partially a comedy and drama, so it's talking scenes don't need grandiose shots. I think they made El Dorado and the scenery beautiful and it's memorable in my mind.
Both Sinbad and Prince of Egypt needed animation for the supernatural characters and elements. The parting of the red sea, the burning bush, the angel of death, the plagues, and especially the entire song of Deliver Us.
Bro, there's no reasoning with him. It's the same autist that thinks Sharktale is a good movie and spergs out with copy and paste bullshit whenever someone disagrees with him. Your genuine replies on wasted on moron that just uses different versions of the word charm as a criticism.
I didn't know I was speaking with Sharktale anon.
It's not hard to tell, if you see a poster randomly start talking about a completely unrelated movie unprompted it's almost guaranteed to be him.
Way to state the completely obvious captain autismo, you sure showed us that you have functioning eyes.
call me a purist, but i prefer 2D only films. That whole 2D/CG gimmick from late 90s and early 00s (Tarzan, El Dorado, Titan AE, Atlantis, Spirit, Treasure Planet, Sinbad) didn't click for me and other animation followers back in the day. What was wrong with 2D only? Why were CG backgrounds, effects and characters now mandatory? The only ones that did it right for me were Iron Giant, Lilo & Stitch and Osmosis Jones, because their CG was cell shaded instead of "realistic" (unlike the other examples)
The only thing I'm going to call you is a c**t because that's what you are. I didn't ask for your opinion either.
look at those CG barrels at the start of El Dorado. They aren't cell shaded, so they clash. Why couldn't they be 2D?
Fricking Christ, why do you keep stating to obvious? It's not even on topic obvious shit. Did you even read the OP post or do you think they made this thread specifically for you? Selfish c**t.
Eris's hair is CG. Most of Sinbad is CG, including the ocean and each of the creatures they encounter, like the sirens or the roc
Some of that CG looks better than other scenes. Eris and her hair is fine, but not everything in Sinbad looks good.
It was DreamWorks' challenge to Disney
Most religious movies are made to try and get money out of the evangelical audience, and evangelicals hate good art.
>evangelicals hate good art
Idols aren't art. Repent
it had 3 directors. Steve Hickner later made Bee Movie, Brenda Chapman made Brave at Pixar, and Simon Wells made... The Time Machine and Mars Needs Moms
I thought the guy from Sam & Max did Brave
nah, he was a co director who came late in development. Brenda Chapman did Brave (she was involved with it before Disney bought Pixar in 2006)
It's not necessarily a religious film in the sense that it's reciting or enacting a specific story from a primary source. But Pom Poko (which is my favorite film) does have a number of direct references and allusions to material that is found within recorded Buddhism and Shintoism setsuwa. I'm not sure if I would ever recommend this film to a normal person, though because I'm not completely sure most people would particularly like or get it (don't let me stop you from trying, it's there if you want it). If you want something lighter, I would suggest Kaguya-Hime (also by Takahata), which similarly has a few light Buddhist depictions.
Because some morons think the stories are true and might try to use them as a cultural foothold to indoctrinate people into their religion. Either way someone will accuse the movie of being propaganda or being blasphemous. The paranoia of that outcome makes studios just decided to leave well enough alone.
tl:dr America isn’t responsible enough with religious mythology to allow it to be fun.
Disney made Hercules, which was extremely Christianized and deviating from real lore (I know literally everyone knows this already, but it's worth mentioning anyway).
>Deliver Us, All I Ever Wanted, Through Heaven's Eyes, Playing with the Big Boys, The Plagues, When You Believe, I Will Get There
this soundtrack is fire
frick off sharkc**t, stop barging into threads where you're not wanted. It would be one thing if you just posted your objectively shitty opinions on the subject in question but you can't even keep on topic.
>did a play at church when I was younger
>me and my brother played the two Egyptian priests
>had to memorize a bunch of Egyptian god names for Playing with the Big Boys
Fun times.
>Rameses ducks behind Moses when Tzipporah lashes out
funniest moment. He gave her to Moses for a reason
She looked so hot in that outfit.
Religious people Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jehovahs, and probably Buddhists who care enough about religion to make movies about it are religious as hell, therefore they don’t write narratives or stories they write indoctrination pieces. They want something that makes their religion look good. People notice this with the fundie Christians the most, but they’re all the same. The indoctrination pieces are badly written as such fundies naturally fear moral ambiguity and bad behaviors, the stuff that makes movies interesting. Hero can’t do anything cool, he has to be 100% sanitized not biblical Jesus (in the case of Christians), but the villain can’t be cool either because it has to be 100% known the hero is in the right and the villain is wrong. So strawman and plot armor. If the villain is cool (design, personality, being unashamedly evil) he’s likable, more likeable then the hero who is probably boring by virtue of having only virtue. They don’t want that. If the villain has a reasonable point that’s encouraging critical thinking in likely children. It’s suggesting to people you can make choices of your path in life, there are many valid paths, and encourages people to make their own choices. People well versed in religion tend to write highly 'original' stories based on shit they stole from all these religions, which seems new to people because it’s incredibly in-depth religion: see israelites. No /misc/ as someone who knows religion in depth israelites tend to use really fringe religious shit for inspiration, which nobody ever notices because nobody has even heard of the shit. israelites mostly want money. Their goals are 1. Money, 2. Remind people of the plight of the israelites/that israelites exist as a thing (hence Moses = great story to animate). That’s why any decent content will be all old testament or Satan/demons stuff as opposed to any new testament. Old testament works for the israelites and Satan/demons can be removed from religion sort of.
The movie didn't make enough money and Christians are a majority
I doubt this poster helped any great deal. Compared to the other one, which is much more artsy this one gives off a very cheap feeling. The way the eyes don't focus just right, the oddly exaggerated form of the horses, the generic Halloween costume Rameses is wearing. Christian media in America, particularly animation, has a pretty bad reputation. If you're not a particularly religious adult picking what you're going to see with your kids, are you really going to trust this poster to provide a good movie?
It's weird that neither Disney or Dreamworks ever did a Renaissance-style CGI film.
Tangled, I think.
Because other religions chop your hands off for making one.
What about Noah’s Ark?
You got me thinking, has there ever been any kind of film adaptation of the Book of Job?
El Dorado is the worst of the 2D films. It was a mess of a production and it shows in the finished product. Spirit and Sinbad were nothing great, but they were still better
I know you’re probably not going to listen since you use your intense autism as an excuse to act like a selfish butthole but why do you keep coming into threads to shit on movies that have nothing to do with the OP? Like what purpose does it serve other than to soothe your warped autistic ego? Also see
>Prince of Egypt has the characters sing, either aloud or in their head (All I Ever Wanted) In every case, we hear their voices
>El Dorado and Spirit went for the Tarzan approach of having a single artist sing every song in the background (Elton John and Bryan Adams in this case)
that was a mistake. They should've kept the PoE approach. It's cheesy to see Tulio and Miguel exploring a jungle while Elton John sings
Because religious movies are shit. This was a fluke.
They did, Joesph King of Dreams in 2000. Same choir etc but it’s direct to dvd. Mark Hamill and Ben Affleck are in it.
I'd like to see epic poems get the animated treatment. Iliad, Odyssey, what we know of Sappho. tons of potential and I highly doubt anyone but Cinemaphilenerds would care about the specific differences.
The Moses story is pretty much the only thing they can do to get the Christian-israeli-Muslim triple threat demographic covered
For the past ten years the industry has been dominated by atheists
the west is allergic to making big budget animated family films that aren't comedies
Does Eight Crazy Nights count?
People shit on the movie a lot, but it had some really good aspects that I feel don't get enough recognition.
Let it out Davey gets me every time
The poop eating deer do kinda ruin it tho
because the movie is more about the relationship between the brothers, in the actual story that dynamic doesn't really exist, Moses just tells Ramesses to frick off or die and he chose death
>first woman to direct an animated film by a major studio (Prince of Egypt) and a Pixar film (Brave)
Brenda Chapman is great. She was the first director of PoE, since the other two came on-board later
PoE is about a brothers relationship (Moses and Rameses) and Brave about a daughter-mother one (Merida and Elinor) Brave does end with the relationship on good terms
prince of Egypt is good because is not trying to convert you to your local evnagrlical church, its simple a good epic story that happens to be based on the bible.
>PoE : Brenda Chapman, Simon Wells, Steve Hickner
>El Dorado : Bibo Bergeron, Don Paul
>Spirit : Kelly Asbury, Lorna Cook
>Sinbad : Patrick Gilmore, Tim Johnson
no wonder the post PoE films are so inferior, since none of the directors came back. The producers (Penney Finkelman Cox and Sandra Rabins) didn't produce the next films either. 2D facility was promising at first yet the quality didn't last. They did well in switching to CG
Katzenberg founded that 2D facility with the goal of becoming Disney's rival, yet with the sole exception of PoE, none of their films approached Disney quality. El Dorado, Spirit and Sinbad pale in comparison to Disney Renaissance films or even the early 00s films (Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo & Stitch) Why should've they kept making 2D films if the writing quality wasn't there? PoE was a fluke and they weren't going to replicate it, especially since Dreamworks became more corporate around that time. Leaving 2D behind was the right choice