Why is Andor so much better than everything else produced by Disney? It's so good it doesn't even feel like it belongs to the same brand, like it came out of a different timeline where Star Wars is actually good and has a different quality standard
Why is Andor so much better than everything else produced by Disney?
If Andor is so good then why didn't I watch it?
Because the first 1/2 episodes are literally shit and made me drop it.
Thankfully I gave it another shot and it picks up a lot. Star wars is so much better when there is no fricking "the force" and "jedi" bullshit.
>Because the first 1/2 episodes are literally shit and made me drop it.
>Thankfully I gave it another shot and it picks up a lot
typical drooling moron take
I did the same with dark souls. Hated it at first, but gave it another shot.
c**t.
>Star wars is so much better when there is no fricking "the force" and "jedi" bullshit.
>Star wars is good when there isn't star wars in it
Stop trying to enjoy things that aren't meant for you and you'll have a better time.
He did enjoy the thing. Star Wars is a big enough universe it doesnt need those things to tell a good story, while retaining worldbuilding consistency.
I'm sure Tony Gilroy could write a good story that includes the force and Jedi, but he would build it up much more and actually make it feel special instead of just slapping it onto random glup shittos
The force and Jedi bullshit is kino but a lot of Star Wars media kind of misses the point of everything that made the Jedi interesting in the original movies
I liked the first two episodes. End of episode 2 really hooked me.
sadly episodes 3-4-5 went absolutely nowhere interesting and all the new characters introduced were absolutely dogshit boring so I dropped it.
A heist with some lame space lefties, really?
>hurr why are lefties in the rebellion
What did you expect, nazis to be anti-nazis?
Space lefty is unironically based. Thought he was going to be a cringe "THE MESSAGE" character but was pleasantly surprised by his Manifesto
is right, actually a good character and then he dies in a harsh anticlimactic way. very kino. it's a bit of a slog to get there but the heist was actually pretty good. the pacing for Andor to end up in Imperial prison for another totally different raisin is kinda jarring but then it gets exciting again
>Andor to end up in Imperial prison for another totally different raisin is kinda jarring but then it gets exciting again
That was actually great. It showed Andor that there is no point in running away and the Empire is just going to expand and become worse and more abritrary
sure, but it could have been done better
Nah the absolute arbitrariness of it is what made it so great imo
>Star wars is so much better when there is no fricking "the force" and "jedi" bullshit.
I loved andor, but this is bullshit. Jedi and the force are integral to star wars as a whole but they don't need to be in every story
>the first 1/2 episodes are literally shit
what the frick, bro?
this was my first impression but then I tried it again with my dad and realized I was just sleep-deprived on my first watch.
when i am in a literal shit eating contest
the force and jedi shit is good its just that since the prequels nobody knows how to do it right. the choreography is so garbage and the lightsabres themselves are odd. sometimes they look 100% plastic, weird lightning, no weight, etc. star wars never had any business continuing. actually that only applies to the shows and some of the newer movies though i can't recall it well.
the intro was kino wdym
He's got you there, OP.
If your penis is so good then why can't you see it?
>t ranny
tyranny?
Because you have it in your mouth?
Maybe you should
The first two episodes were so boring and uninteresting
Also didn’t watch kenobi or Ashoka
because you're a pea-brained Black person
Heckin true and valid.
fpbp, I will never EVER watch """"Andor""""
Brain deficiency?
kek I like the leftists (pedophiles) defending this piece of festering dog shit and pretending to like it for political gain, you rapists are mentally ill
Hahahahaha andor cucks will never recover from this
Touch E.
because you have more self respect than the average starwars fan
I asked what’s so good about it the other night in another thread and the replies were all similar except for one obvious troony. It’s also trash, but compared to the other trash, it’s not as offensive. But still awful. Watch the trannies go apoplectic in defense on this homosexualry.
It's more offensive because it's tricking midwits into thinking it's not trash.
Andor is so nauseatingly overhyped.
Go back to your starslop general, or better Reddit.
Reddit hates Andor because its got too much dialogue and not enough lightsabers, cameos and space magic
i dont give a frick what they do i will never watch star wars again
>produced by Disney
you answered your own question: it wasn't.
it was made by people who don't know the boring ass TCW and that's a good thing, Filoni should be mauled by a grizzly bear
made by real people
there's no such thing in hollywood
Showrunners matter. Gilroy isn't attached to the Star Wars IP and he isn't interested in catering to existing fans, especially not the action figure collecting manchild crowd. He just wanted to make a good TV show.
>He just wanted to make a good TV show
Then why didn't he? lmao
It's better than any other TV show Star Wars has had.
Name a better one
It's only good if it's a star wars show, if it was about the Irish troubles or the French resistance it'd be a 6/10 faux prestige show.
I find it hard to imagine any show about the French resistance traveling through space would rise to 6/10.
It's good because it's boring and there's a lot of pointless talking.
For the love of god go back to rebbit please
>Cinemaphile gets to Andy Serkiss
>most kino character in the show
>part of the most kino arc
>literally called Kino
Genuinely, what did they mean by this? Is Tony Gilroy /ourguy/?
Andor was terrible and anyone who thinks it wasn't is unqualified to discuss Star Wars in any capacity. Put your helmet back on and wait for the short bus to pick you up.
What do you consider the best Star Wars
The original version of the OT (most of it)
OT is SW
imagine being qualified to discuss starwars
>t. homosexual
Because of he
literally me
There are 3 or 4 actors from Chernobyl in Andor
Stellen, the moustached spy fella, and who else?
Obviously Scherbina which you said,
I caught the ISB double agent guy as Akimov? Or whatever the control panel engineers name was
and then the medic in the jail is Fomin
Great cast all around, it felt like an HBO star wars show
Gilroy is a real scriptwriter, and a good one at that. Filoni writes on a cartoon fanfic level. It's not even comparable.
because the people who made it dislike star wars in a good way where they dislike it for being shlock for children rather than there being too many white men or something else moronic.
here's your answer
To be fair, if you are carrying Dave Filoni's spawn, an abortion isn't a choice
>Buzz, your girlfriend… woof
she's god damn ugly no wonder he had to create ahsoka tano to get off
Kennedy, Favreau and Filoni were not involved in Andor and it was instantly good
Amazing
I'm interested to see if that holds.
I guess part of their influence would be vetting/hiring writers, because obviously if I go get the writing teams from Steven Universe and Zombie Simpsons it doesn't matter if you're not even allowed to say Kennedy's name, you'll get shit.
>I can't swim
coal
That picture is missing Dave's wolf fursona
His what
Andor trannies???!!! OUR RESPONSE?!
Yularen appeared on ANH originally
>on
Yeah he was on the telly m8
kek the seethe at the original meme just emanates from this
When is legos going make more Andor kits
So many cool ships , we only got one!
Republic Transpo Corsair starship(crashed on Andors home world)
Preox-Morlana personnel carrier
Preox-Morlana Mobile Tac-Pod
Imperial Max-7 Rono freighter
Imperial TIE/ln space superiority starfighter
Imperial prison transport
Imperial TIE/rp Reaper attack lander
Imperial Cantwell-class Arrestor Cruiser
Imperial TIE Boarding Craft
Breon Dayvan Starship (Andor ship E1 & E12)
Fondor haulcraft (Luten rael, modified)
Rebel Saw Gerrera's x wing fighter
Shuttle passenger ferry (Ferrix)
Fishermen's TUG-b13 quadjumper
Orlean StarCab (Andor parents ship)
I want a Syril with cereal bowl Legi
>caring about toys
Construction model kits !!!
For me its the Preox-Morlana personnel carrier
please look forward to a smaller and more expensive set than random strangers online can put together, even using the overpriced aftermarket pieces.
honestly why has some company not started 3d printing lego en masse, they'd make a killing easily. the lego community does nothing but cope over low quality and high prices, they are yearning for a poach.
>legos
The plural of Lego is Lego you fricking moronic twat.
It really was sub par, shitty stretched out writing
>Zoomers calling Andor slow
Did Tiktok fry the brains of this generation? Andor is pretty fast paced with a four different acts in just 12 episodes
There is literally no episode that has no major impact on the story unlike say Mandalorian that has literal filler episodes where the plot doesn't move forward
It's shit. Even though it is "competently" written, it's just more Boeing and pointless filler completely irrelevant to Star Wars. I have no desire to rewatch it ever again. And the fact that this show has like two or three webms ever made out of it says it all.
So shows like the wire, the Sopranos, Severance and white Lotus are all bad because they don't have any pew pew bzz bzz blinky webms? What a fricking moronic argument
No, moron. Sopranos is a part of Cinemaphile culture because it has so many memorable, charismatic characters. Blandor will never ever be a part of Cinemaphile culture. There will never be blandor posting. It did not produce any memes. Anything memorable. It is shilled by the same few morons posting the she pictures and "arguments" over and over again, gushing about their "star wars for grown ups." No one gives a shit. Literally. Imagine unironically comparing this dry, joyless, bland, boring slop to fricking Sopranos. Shocking.
I will now write an essay comparing the Sopranos to Andor just to spite you
>anon needs memes to like a show
>blandor blandor blandor blandor blandor
obsessed
>ON PROGRAM
> ... A real Human being , and a real Hero ...
>POCKETS of FOREMENTING
I really liked how enthusiastic the Chernobyl guy was here. Usually you'd expect a character with a role like his to be disinterested or mocking of Cyril, especially once it was already established nobody else in the space mall cop HQ really gave a shit, but then this lad shows up and shows he actually cares about doing the best he can, but without any of Cyril's autism and incompetence
Andor has so many unexpectedly great characters. Kino is the same. You think he is just your average empire suck up rat obstacle only to be the literal most Kino character
Why did the Sergent and Syril swap hats in the last episode when they where on the Ferrix passenger shuttle?
wordlessly swap hats
2/2
Syril is an autist and his hat didn't fit with his outfit and he wanted to impress his Nazi waifu
>Kino for the first 4 episodes
>Proceeds to do frickall for the rest of the season to the point that he need a literal phone call telling him exactly where to go to find the plot
Him and Mothma were the biggest letdowns.
Sadly agreed. I hope they do more with Syril in season 2.
lmao cant believe thats the naked chernobyl miner dude
Because it has a love story between an incel and a nazi waifu
Whats the difference between love and obsession?
Love is reciprocated
God i can't wait till he autistically pressures her into fricking him just like Jake Gyllenhaal did with the milf in Nightcrawler.
I doubt Disney has the balls to do it tho
>Greatest love story every told , closing scene
( Dedra panting )
Dedra:: You?
Dedra:: How?
Syril:: You were in trouble.
( Dedra Panting )
Syril:: Syril.
Dedra:: I knew that.
( Dedra Breathing heavily )
Dedra:: I should... I should say thank you.
Syril:: You don't have to.
( Dedra panting )
hot.
W-WAGMI, incelbros
They're two dysfunctional morons, that's the point
Andor was as boring as frick. I hated it.
My poo rebel wife
Good actors, unhindered writers free from producer meddling. I guess it's that easy
Andor was made by someone like Tony Gilroy while the rest of that trash is made by people who see Star Wars as a brand for morons and children
Honestly after Mando season 3, Boba Fett and Obi Wan I was done with Star Wars and I still am but did see Andor based on recommendations and it turned out to be the best Star Wars related content ever made, it will also be the last time I'm ever interested in Star Wars again, after season 2 I'm done unless Gilroy does something else but I hope he doesn't
Gilroy already said that he's done after 2 seasons. He actually puts in the work and it drains him. He said he would end up in fetal position if he did more. That's really the difference between him and Filoni
2 season is good enough if he keeps the level of the first one after all we already know what happens to the mc
The mandalorian would have been better if it stopped after the second season too
Agreed. Though Mando showed signs of sloppiness already in S2
andor fricking sucked. stop trying to act like it wasnt boring as shit with a das boot rip off prison break tossed in to make it seem smarter than it is. being better than the other disney shit doesnt make it good. just by comparison.
Probably because there is barely anything from Star Wars in it. Andor took the SW aesthetic and one major element from Star Wars - the Empire - and built a story around that, while re-using as few other elements as possible. Mando season 1 was kind of similar, they took the mythos of Boba Fett, the space bounty hunter who never removes his helmet and built a story around that, although there are significantly more references to other Star Wars things in Mandalorian.
Also the funny thing is, when it comes down to it, Andor is STILL just the same old Star Wars story of rebels vs. Empire. But they manage to do it competently and without shoehorning in a bunch of other Star Wars references.
It takes the universe and does something new with it. All the other shows are the exact opposite of that.
I wouldn't call it "new" exactly because it's still the Empire/rebellion but it explores an element of the old movies that is really compelling and deserves attention. The Empire is cool as frick and it's interesting to see their POV and how they operate.
Hmmmmmm. It's almost as if Disney is the problem more than choice of directors.
Trandor is garbage and it's hilarious how its fans think they're above Filoni worshippers.
Didnt the director say that they were left alone when making it and disney forgot that they funded the show so they were allowed to do whatever they wanted?
Close, it's not that they were forgotten, but Tony Gilroy was surprised how little they cared what he did. I think Disney really banked on Obi Wan and Boba and just wanted another series to fill space, so they didn't really care what Gilroy did to Andor. They heard somewhere that Rogue One was popular but didn't really care as to why so whatever.
I think the only thing Disney in the end changed is that Marva says "Frick the Empire" and not "Fight the Empire"
I think it was a similar story with the first season of The Mandalorian saying this as someone with no knowledge or insider info about the making of The Mandalorian
The main focus of and Kennedy and Lucasfilm when that was getting made would've been The Rise of Skywalker. I think it's pretty clear that Lucasfilm more or less treated Mandalorian as a back-up, B-team thing, letting the animation guy finally do a little bit of live-action Star Wars as a treat. They didn't even have any Baby Yeed toys ready to go when it first dropped. And then with the next two seasons, you can tell there's a much heavier hand at play behind the scenes asking for all the spin-off set ups and certain characters being pushed or having a cameo
Yeah I think so too. Mando was originally part of the bigger plan of "additional content because people just will never get tired of anything Star Wars" and they didn't really cared about it too much. They just wanted content and if it fails who cares it was just to fill the streaming library people come for the movies. But then it turned out that Mando is the only thing that carried Disney Star Wars from people losing interest completely and that's when the execs moved in and Mando turned to shit
I'm really afraid they'll ruin Andor S2 because of that too. But they started filming Andor immediately after S1 finished before Disney realized it's critical reception (and the streaming numbers werent that good anyway) so I just hope that they still don't care about Andor and just let Gilroy finish his story
>only thing execs changed was dropping an f bomb to protect the in universe mythology
That's probably the most star wars thing they've ever done. Focusing on an element of the story that has nothing to do with the jedi or sith or force homosexualry in general was what made the show so good.
Although I'm pretty sure Luthien is a jedi, at the very least he's using jedi technology in his ship and is an elite pilot.
Might be a Jedi that turned away from the force. I would find it extremely lame if Luthen was an actual Jedi
That definitely makes more sense. He's way too nonchalant about sacrificing lives and starting a war to be a true jedi. He's literally using terrorism to incite the empire into attacking settlements solely for the purpose of provoking uprisings. I'm pretty sure he planned on killing Andor too.
Frick he might actually be a Sith that just happens to be an anti imperial.
>swearing is against the universes mythology
huh?
If swearing were apart of the mythology than it would have been done by now. We hear Bill Burr use the words "ass" and "damn" I think in Mando S2 but that show is fricking stupid and is rewriting canon on the fly so I disregard it.
>at the very least he's using jedi technology in his ship
What are you referring to?
lmao what jedi technology is there here
>a ship using laser swords in melee
>where is the jedi tech
Sorry I didn't realize I was speaking with an actual fricking moron my bad.
A laser beam isn't something unique to the jedi, whats next youre gonna be saying the death star is a giant lightsaber impaling a planet
andor was great but slightly ruined by the goofy ass lightsabre spaceship.
>goofy ass lightsabre spaceship.
I thought it was cool tbh
what is so goofy about having barrel roll laser counter-measures? seems pretty effective for dogfighting. also if someone's going to argue that the kind of super-laser produced by a Jedi's lightsabre is rare and costly it does look like a limited burst kind of DIY weapon that the rich rebel pirate antique dealer could get his hands on or have made for him
>Why is [well made show not barely influenced by corporate slop producer] so much better than everything else produced by [corporate slop producer]?
Hmmmmmm.
Only the prison episodes are any good and that's because it deviates from the sar wars formula completely. Everything else was mediocre, just looks good compared to the other shit disney has produced
I thought the Funeral was actually much better than the prison.
This tune gives me absolute chills.
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Great music, especially around the 2:30 mark.
My favorite of the season is the end of episode 11
So good and carries more emotional meaning than any other disney slop they've put out.
In general I like that Andor has all this original score and doesn't reuse or try to emulate the typical Star Wars music. Made every scene feel like a breath of fresh air
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>My movie about the guy from rogue one isn't expanded universe brand recognition slop
YOU KNOW, ANDOR IS LIKE ACTUALLY NOT THAT BAD????
It's not only not bad. It's unironically a masterpiece and the best thing Star Wars since the OT. This is the level of Quality Star Wars always should have had
Andorbros, is Ashoka good or should i just wait for S2 Andor?
Didn't watch Ahsoke, don't care about Rebels, don't care for Filoni verse, don't care about actual space magic, other dimensions, parallel universe crap.
But I'll also check out of Star Wars after Andor S2. It's the last thing Star Wars I'm interested in, then the Andor - Rogue One - OT sequence can give me a complete Star Wars experience and I can forget the rest
Don't bother with Ahsoka
It's forgettable on par with Mando s3.
Because Filoni has deviant art tier ideas and characters. He uses existing content from the EU and a lot of those things have some quality to them before he comes along and makes them worse. Example: Thrawn who is supposed to be a super smart tactician who throughout Filoni's use of him is constantly losing and doing nonsensical things that undermine his characterization.
Filoni also relies heavily on nostalgia and cameos thus decreasing the feeling of size and scope of the star wars universe and connecting things with too many contrivances.
He doesn't know subtlety in his direction. Like the reunion between Sabine and Ezra should be an emotionally heavy moment but it's directed to just fall flat.
Every episode of his shows requires a fight and the heroes to win at the end. This leads to schizophrenic pacing, a loss of any feelings of stakes because the heroes win so often and tensions are resolved so quickly.
And don't get me started on the Mortis Gods which are by far and away the worst thing to happen to the franchise, eclipsing midichlorians by lightyears
we need more of this dude
whoops
what a creative, interesting looking alien
very cool
thanks disney
The top left from Andor are actually based as hell and interesting looking. Most of the other disney slop are all too derivative of each other though.
>I HECKING LOVE MY SLOW BURN COMMUNIST POLITICAL LESBIAN THRILLER STAR WARS FOR MATURE ADULTS LIKE MESELF!
thats me(unironically)
Yes, we know. You're a shitskin commie homosexual.
>budget: 20 million dollars per episode
holy hell
If they make the arrestor class cruiser a lego set they can make it back in no time.
>Andor is a shit character no one gives a shit about
>Speeches were tryhard, forced and cringe
>Mon Monthma's storyline stalled and became boring incredibly fast. No actual politics. The b***h was just sitting at home with a sad face and bickering with her awful family. I felt sadder for her when she said, "Many Bothans died to bring us this information," than throughout the entirety of Andor
>Saw Gerrera was just a cameo and really had no reason to be in the show
>Luthen's action scene with the lightsaber ship was garbage and utterly pointless, did not affect the story in any way, because he goes to Ferrix on the next day for some reason, despite being established as a cautious person. He had no reason to be there, because he had already dispatched two deadly assassins after Andor. He went there, because the writer couldn't figure out how to get Andor and Luthen together. And the only reason Andor found him was because conveniently Luthen parked at the exact same spot out of all the places on a fricking planet
>BE TOO EMO is cringe, forced toybait, much like BB8
>Flashbacks were useless shit
>Retconned Cassian's "I was in this fight since I was 6 years old" Separatist background, making the character even less interesting than he was before
>Useless filler incel clerk storyline that is absolutely pointless and will not lead to anything substantial
>Lots of empty, pointless Emmy bait talking that reads like the writer jerking off
>Dogshit pacing and structure, episodes often just end abruptly without achieving anything, no sense of finality or hook to most of them
>99% of the show was humans, and 90% of them had London accents. Almost no aliens. So much for rich and diverse Star Wars galaxy
>Doesn't look/feel like SW
>Absolutely devoid of fun and adventure, dull and exhausting. Pseuds confuse dark and serious for joyless and tiresome, which is what the hacks like Nolan and Villeneuve do
Why is this good again?
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What made Andor so good is that it's so honest
Unlike Filoni trash it didn't feel like it's trying to explain away campiness with the excuse that it's made for kids and it doesn't hind behind post modern irony like Rian Johnson or just copy anything and say "But you liked it when the OT did it!"
It told a genuine human story with real emotions and weight with relatable characters. It's not only something that you don't get with modern Star Wars, you rarely get it with modern productions at all. Nobody dares to tell real stories anymore, nobody dares to play things straight, nobody dares to show real emotions it all needs to be hidden behind some wall of irony or layers of "lol I didn't mean it that way" crap
Star Wars is for kids.
Oh man are you going to be mad when you learn how much George loves Gilroy's work on Star Wars
>source: dude, trust me
https://www.jedinews.com/film-music-tv/articles/andor-showrunner-tony-gilroy-reveals-call-with-george-lucas-after-rogue-one-release/
>SOURCE: DUDE, TRUST ME
>PLEASE WATCH OUR MOUSE SLOP, GEORGE TOTALLY LIKED IT, YOU GUYS!
Wake me up when George Lucas personally says it.
Gareth Edward's said the same thing 7 years ago. If they are lying about what George said, he would have cleared that by now. Does George even do public interviews anymore?
>Gareth Edward's said the same thing 7 years ago.
Oh, if another Disney employee said so... I guess that must be true! I am sure George liked it from a technical standpoint. It's a competently shot movie and it looked good and had good VFX. Storywise? It's completely moronic and goes heavily against everything George did and said and it directly contradicts ANH. And the Vader scene was so embarrassing, that it read like a direct opposite of what Lucas was trying to do.
>If producers had their way, we would have Darth Vader killing people with lightsaber
>disney buys star wars
>here is a tasteless scene of darth vader killing people with a lightsaber
Lucas changed his mind with every movie.
okay, shill
What am I shilling? I just think it's a mistake to hang on Lucas's every word. He changed his mind all the time up to the very end.
See
he held a 45 minute rant. He didn't just say he liked it he probably in detail told them how great it is compared to the shit fest that was the Sequels, hence why they probably aren't saying more about it
See:
>George likes rogue one
It’s officially part of Lucascanon
No, it's not, shill. He didn't make it. And it's not a part of his canon. Also, Gilroy's words don't mean shit.
George made the movies as family films. Sure sometimes he may have leaned to heavy in the kiddie direction but there was always enough meat for the adults. It never went full filoni moron.
>George made the movies as family films.
Yeah especially prequels
why are you defending “muh real star wars” then
pic deeply related
Sincerity is the word I was looking for thank you. I fricking hate that Millenials writers can't be sincere and need to hide everything behind layers of irony. Fricking worst timeline
I don't know how I can go back to star wars now, broskis. Andor is just... so good. The rest of star wars banal poorly written kiddie shit pales in comparison.
Rouge One and Andor are literally the best Star Wars. Finally, Star Wars for adults that is not embarrassing to watch. Everything else is fricking embarrassing. Honestly, go watch A New Hope, or even Empire Strikes Back - dogshit dialogue, hockey acting, shit action, goofy ass cringe shit all around, quips. Nothing on the level of Stellan Skarsgard or Andy Serkis. Nothing like impeccable Gilroy's tone and atmosphere. Star Wars is a dead fossil, and it needs to be rebooted. And Tony Gilroy is the right man. Everything else is fricking dogshit and terrible. You know I am right.
Let Gilroy remake the original trilogy and go from there.
Decanonize everything else except Andor and Rogue One.
Seriously, who wants this dumb shit?
Stupid ass MCU quipping teenagers taking down the Empire? A farmer boy? Fricking moronic kiddie garbage nonsense.
KK can redeem herself if she fires everyone except Gilroy and his team and reboots Star Wars to proper standards (such as Rogue One and Andor).
Hereby, I declare official Star Wars canon for mature sophisticated adults with taste:
Andor
Rogue One
my best hope is that they leave the skywalker era alone after already doing so much damage. fast forward 1000 years with entirely new characters and the lore of the skywalker era being distant history only referenced here and there.
There's way too much clusterfrick ideas and I primarily blame Filoni for bringing them into cannon. There's a way to make movies that appeal to kids and adults without degrading into nonsense and overly sillyness.
Totally agree I feel the same way. There are some bits interesting in Ashoka and mandalorian and hell even solo but as a whole, including the sequels, sucks big time
I think the only redeeming of star wars would be the old republic with Gilroy or other competent directors
oh no, Filoni is making stuff that actually looks and feels like Star Wars? someone must stop him!
I take the worst of Filoni slop over Blandor, frick off
>rouge one is good they said
This would be a good point if Stormtroopers were EVER as competent on-screen as they were supposed to be.
I find it a little funny that there's this one guy on this board who hates Andor so fricking much he feels the need to come into every single thread about it he sees and dump the same bunch of pics and pastas over and over again
He posts more than on one board
And usually appears when next episode of Ahsoka drops
Probably the same guy who dumps his folder in every Dungeons and Dragons thread.
It's Dave himself. George calling Tony to tell him how much he loved Rogue One really triggered him
>SO GILROY THINKS HE CAN DO STAR WARS BETTER THAN ME, HUH??
>I WORKED UNDER GEORGE LUCAS! I CREATED AHSOKA TANO! I'M THE ONE WITH ALL THE CAMEOS AND CARTOON CHARACTERS AND TOTALLY EPIC LIGHTSABER FIGHTS EVERYONE LOVES! I'M THE ONE SAVING STAR WARS!
>I BET GILROY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WOLF-THEMED CHARACTER IN HIS PIECE OF SHIT BLANDOR
>IN 2008 I WALKED GEORGE LUCAS UP ON STAGE
>rouge one is so kino you guys, the empire is competent in that one!
>Dave is mindbroken
This is better choreographed than just about anything in the prequels.
Anything that Filoni produced
Any single sequence in the prequels shits all over the entirety of rogue one and blandor in virtually every aspect.
>Any single sequence in the prequels shits all over the entirety of rogue one and blandor in virtually every aspect.
Kek
TPM is my favorite of the prequels, though. I wish it had a home media release that didn't look like shit.
webM unrelated?
>nearly half of Mauls strikes and nearly all of Obiwans aren't even fatal and could have been dodged without a saber
Christ please stop.
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kek
>A blind man beating up soldiers with a stick is quite literally less fricking stupid and better choreographed than anything in PT, OT, or ST
Yes that's correct.
What exactly is so objectionable about this?
He's using the Force
>here is your star wars for mature adults with stakes
it literally does have stakes. every nation character dies lol
Wait are you saying this more or less fricking stupid than base star wars fight scenes where 90 percent of the moves come of as synchronized dancing than actual aggression from someone trying to kill?
At least in the Rogue One fight scenes people are actually trying to hurt each other.
>throws sand into helmeted stormtrooper's face
>this somehow stuns him
literally kenobi-tier slop
you shills are embarrassing
At least throwing sand in someones face is actual violence lmao. Just face it, Rogue One and Andor are objectively the only quality productions Star Wars has ever done and you can not cite anything better nor will you even try because you correctly perceive that you will be annihilated.
People will defend Rogue One and Andor for 5 threads straight. NO ONE is defending the OT or the ST or any of the other shows. No one. The PT is defensible but only because it tries (and mostly fails) to be what Andor actually is, a well written poli/mil scifi drama with quality action scenes propped up by immersive CGI.
Did you confuse OT and PT?
Did you?
OT is the least immersive of all of them. The Empire outside of Vader is functionally worthless and that's BEFORE you watch ROTJ which completely invalidates them as a fighting force to be taken seriously. That Vader is beaten by a child with a fraction of his experience and that the Empire only lasts 20 years IN CANON is proof that it's a fricking joke.
At least in the PT the threat is real, Palpatine has genuinely subverted the Senate, the Republic's incompetence is always at the forefront exists in name only to preserve peace while waging war which goes along symmetrically with the Jedi being peacekeepers yet are literally fighting to enforce their perceived superior rule of law on planets that don't want or need Republic support. There's a lot of different variables feeding the conflict on both sides and Anakin himself correctly calls out the stupidity of the entire system. The larger the needs become the simpler the government must become and the most efficient and appropriate way to manage conflicts between these two points is force. He shows his dark side affinity before he even starts befriending Palpatine. The threat here is presented in a very real and respectable way. The execution of the production (over reliance on CGI, incoherent dialogue) is a weakness but the plot still works.
>only quality productions Star Wars
a solid turd instead of liquid diarrhea is still poop anon
>Why is Andor so much better than everything else produced by Disney?
because it was made for the 40 year olds who grew up with quality storytelling and film making. We aren't like the prequel generation that grew up with slop and thinks slop is good.
What tactical advantage did flipping over a downed Darth Maul provide to Obi-Wan? Shouldn't he have just swung at him while he was on the ground?
Reminder that any single frame of the prequels has more soul, nuance and creativity in it than the entirety of blandor.
>usings the 4k HD remastered stills instead of the originals
Gee I wonder why.
Go to bed Dave
The stills from Luthen escaping the patrol detail was better than anything the PT did.
>grey, desaturated, washed out, lifeless, soulless streaming slop
lol
lmao even
Dave you wouldn't understand good cinematography even if George hit you in the face with it
*George's wife
>gray, washed out, generic 2020's digital slop
>good cinematography
O I AM LAFFIN
Watch real movies, disneed mom.
a special effect without a good story is a pretty boring thing.
~ George Lucas
>disney shit doesn't have neither
Now that's sad.
>Reminder that any single frame of the prequels has more soul, nuance and creativity in it than the entirety of blandor.
reminder that visuals is all it has
And compelling story, characters, themes, character/creature/world designs, sound design, music, VFX. Something none of the Disney Star Wars has.
>And compelling story, characters, themes
nope, sorry.
Yep. Sorry, blandortard, your shit sucks and isn't Star Wars. Utterly soulless, derivative slop.
>Copypaste model x100000
DAMN FILONI WHAT GREAT CINEMATOGRAPHY
>trying to pit prequel chads against andor chads
You're starting to look desperate
Nice false flag, shill. No one who cares about Lucas' work and his own integrity would engage or defend disneed slop. Pathetic homosexual. Consider suicide.
trying too hard
Where did the colors go in Disney's Star Wars? Why is everything so washed out, gray, desaturated, lifeless, dull?
Nice try, shill.
all that and it still looks like cgi slop
Looks better than anything Disney has made. By a fricking mile.
the prequels CGI looks so outdated now its like a shitty animatic some kid made.
have a nice day shill
Very nice.
star wars is gay. i don’t give a frick about any of these boring shows.
>a single sequence has more soul, emotion, looks visually compelling, is better directed, has better action than the entirety of blandor
this is a television and film board
The bottom unironically sells way more merch-slop, which is what Disney wants. They're not trying to make prestige content, they sell theme parks and shit for children
This. What kind of adult do you think spends more money on toys? The guy who likes prestige television or the one who obsessively watches children’s cartoons? The reason Filoni keeps getting work is because he’s giving Disney exactly what they want.
>maybe if I spam the exact same images and webms again, they'll all finally agree with me!
It’s insane how easy it is for one or two Cinemaphile autists to render an entire board unusable.
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>Filoni WISHES he could write clone troopers this terrifying and compelling
Are these supposed to be clones? Looks like a bunch of fatass cosplayers.
This scene makes no sense.
>LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
Empire IS Republic. Nearly everyone was happy when the Empire was declared. Empire didn't conquer the Republic. The Republic BECAME the Empire. And it was met with thunderous applause. Clones were seen as heroes. This show doesn't know what its doing, and whoever wrote this slop doesn't understand a thing about Star Wars and did not even bother watching Revenge of the Sith, it seems. What a fricking slop.
>Nearly everyone was happy when the Empire was declared.
Every single person in the galaxy, without exception? He’s clearly supposed to be a guy that doesn’t like what happened, so he’s shouting slogans associated with the Republic as a way of expressing dissent or whatever
The show is pretentious, middling and extremely pedestrian. Looks ugly, bland and doesn't feel like Star Wars at all. All the magic and wonder are gone. It tries to be 'adult', but comes off as juvenile instead, i.e. a character saying 'shit' — this is what Star Wars has been reduced to. The dialogues are tedious and dragged out. The writer is definitely an egocentric graphomaniac. It has "literary" quality at the expense of coming off as artificial and forced. The pacing is terrible. The episodes often just end abruptly without concluding anything they set out to do, including the finale. main character is a charisma vacuum Mexican, who dies in the spin-off prequel where he was introduced — and where his entire character arc happened. Other characters are just as dull. None of them behave like real people, they all take everything over-the-top seriously, which comes off as automatons going through the motions the writer requires them, and not how organic, real people talk or act.
The fanbase is extremely obnoxious, no better than TLJgays. They don't even like Star Wars, they just like feeling smarter than they actually are. Any shill andor thread is basically this:
>YOU ARE NOT MATURE ENOUGH FOR THIS MATURE STAR WARS FOR ADULTS!
>THIS IS THE BEST STAH WAHZ SINCE ESB!
>YOU JUST WANT PEW PEW!
>YOU ARE A PREQUELgay!
>ACTUALLY STAR WARS WAS ALWAYS BAD!
>RIAN JOHNSON/TONY GILROY ARE ACTUAL DIRECTORS WITH TALENT!
>YOU WANTED LUKE TO BE A MARY SUE WITH NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
>GO WATCH HIM CHOP CHOP SOME ROBOTS AND BRINGING DOWN STAR DESTROYERS LIKE A MARY SUE!!!
Very obnoxious.
All in all, generic and bland story with no novelty of themes and ideas, that should never have been told. Just like Rogue One ruined the Death Star and Darth Vader, this keeps ruining it even further.
Autism.
>TL;DR:
Good post.
You guys are just buttholes
>AK47s in space
Defend this.
>Defend this.
in the OT there are WW2 weapons all over the place
You can't defend lazy slop.
>let's use AK rifles cuz they are TERRORISTS, get IT? DON'T YOU GET IT?
>let's use tactical gloves from amazon
>and so on
Props and costume are just lazy and look nothing like star wars. This is diet DUNC.
how do you get this mindbroken by a show you hate? why do you come into every thread posting the same shit? nobody cares about your gay little crusade
Reminder that Luke was wearing Levis in ANH
>Defend this
Why? The show is great, not flawless
>STG-44s in space
>Sten guns in space
>MG-34s in space
>C96 in space
If anything there should be more Cold War era weapons in Star Wars. A FN-FAL style blaster would be fricking awesome.
you don’t understand, it’s a design still used today so that means you can’t use it
When human beings are having actual space wars they will still be using AKs.
no, they aren’t allowed to do that
Energy weapons just aren't that good.
If I have the materials to make a death star I can make ships equipped with railguns and have all the ammo I want.
Only issue I guess is compensating for intertia.
AK bad, because it just is, got it?
The Thompson SMG was used all the way up to the 90s by Yugoslav/post-Yugoslav forces so it depends on what you mean by "used today".
We need more Bullup designs
The soviet bullpup prototypes look pretty Star Wars.
>Defend this.
All they needed to do was take out the fricking magazines, like the one in Mando (actually a PP-19 but close enough)
but where do duh lazer bullets go then????
Original trilogy only. Sorry, homosexual. But i must say, mando s1 was not bad, and seems pretty good just for a while....
Rogue one - was ok, just because main pretty girl and Vader scene. Behind that it was bad movie
Prequels - souless cgi, bad writing. Revenge of the sith the only ok one, but still shit if u think of it.
Andor - doesn't have pretty girls at all, and doesn't have Vader. So. Its more shit that it could be.
Ahsoka, Filonimovie and sequels - why i need this, if i have trawn trilogy books already ages ago. Go have a nice day, disney.
Just let it die. Andor was pretty good, but not good enough to justify the rest of zombie Star Wars.
You can watch Andor and ignore the rest. After S2 I'm done with Star Wars
making "star wars for adults" is a moronic idea, star wars should be made for kids. andor fans are even more moronic than manchildren that can't let the star wars from their childhood go away
>making "star wars for adults" is a moronic idea, star wars should be made for kids
b8
go back
>Filoni
Andor isn't a Star Wars show. You prefer it because you don't like Star Wars.
Pretty much this
Plebs think they are latinx Jason Bourne Blandor but in reality they are Jar Jar Binks. Food for thought.
>Plebs think they are latinx Jason Bourne Blandor but in reality they are Jar Jar Binks. Food for thought.
kinda gay to have that saved on your computer, anon
Sounds like you should suck me off then.
Hey that's Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo from Narxos: Mexico.
Will Bix ever return to normal?
I could fix her
I think she'll die. In the end Andor ends up with Jyn anyway
andor is anti fascism kino of the highest order
this but unironically
i still remember people spamming the manifesto on Chinese reddit subs and getting banned lol
It's a really good manifesto. Truly should be spread to the people actually ruled by dictatorships
>
Do a lot of shitskin leftist subhumans get murdered in the process? If so, I might consider torrenting.
It's not worth it.
It’s like in Saving Private Ryan when the Nazi slowly plunged the knife into the israelite, or when Schindlers List was shown to black audiences in the 90’s and they were constantly laughing and cheering throughout the film. Sometimes there are unintentionally entertaining aspects to israeli propaganda.
you arent allowed to watch left wing kino, you have to consume daily wire movies starring Gena carano that made 13k at the boxoffice
I’d prefer your israeli homosexualry over that israeli homosexualry to be honest
>left wing kino
The few there are you don't even know about, manboob commie.
>The few there are you don't even know about, manboob commie.
try me....
No. I'm gatekeeping them.
Poor Nemik 🙁
Sounds like a potential “yes”. Maybe I’ll look into it.
Checked. There’s something to the desire of wanting to dominate them and humiliate them, sexually. Leftists (most women) enjoy it so it’s not as fun.
>Maybe I’ll look into it
remember this, try.
Eh. I'm just so over all the sex stuff, none of it is worth it in the end. Just keep it simple and wholesome, no pouring darkness into it.
true but I'm still pro-Empire
I'm hoping the fem-dom ISB officer and Andor end up together and destroy planets
>Female fascist
Go on… is she brown? There’s something incredibly sexy about South American fascist women.
No, she looks like a meth addict and no, there's nothing sexy about latinx fascist LARPing women, they are mentally ill.
They really were always so much cooler than the rebels. Even as a child in the 80’s, I couldn’t stand Luke and thought he was a whiny little wienersucker. The Empire was always so much more interesting than the homosexual rebellion. It’s just gotten worse under Disney.
Andor made me cheer for the rebels for the very first time, I didn't think it was possible
I played a bit of the SW2 Battlefront reboot singleplayer campaign and it was awesome. You play as a squad of Imperial special forces but now we defected from le evil empire and I'm hesitant to continue