Why is animation dying?

Why is animation dying?

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cartoons are dying, hyper-sexual, uberviolent Anime is winning every corner of the world thanks to VOLUME and PERSPECTIVE.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cartoons are dying, hyper-sexual, uberviolent Anime is winning every corner of the world
      The top Anime box office doesn't even break the top 50.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day weebtard

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hyper-sexual, uberviolent
      I wish. Modern anime is milquetoast compared to the hilarious schlock of late '80s OVAs.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jujutsu Kaiser and Demon Slayer are still good

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          gayjutsu israelitesen is terrible

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >gayjutsu israelitesen

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Never bothered to see the TV anime, I only see the movie in theaters, and I fricking regret that every single day

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          They were never good

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're alright but it's still nothing compared to the schizo gore fest that was 80s anime.

          gayjutsu israelitesen is terrible

          KEK

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cartoons are dying, hyper-sexual, uberviolent Anime is winning every corner of the world
      The top Anime box office doesn't even break the top 50.

      Both are right.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anime is the definition of quantity over quality and the prime example of why consumers are the worst

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think we'll get another 40 day and night flood that will purge the earth of all humans? We've done this same shit in the past so I don't see how this isn't going to repeat at this rate.

      I've been seeing fricked up storm patterns lately, it's clearly a sign of the rebirth.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        That’s call El Niño, cool it with your end times predictions

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Suzume made $100 million while Spidershit made $600 million
      lol

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      more like Hollywood is dying and that's probably inevitable. anime just contributed to making it look somewhat lame earlier than other genres

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      sip.........................
      Unironically anime is soulless trash.
      You should cry in a scene forces sadness and should laugh in a scene forces joy,
      You must bawl your eyes at goku getting killed for the 349th time or weebs will mad at you of being a psychopath
      They're not only hikikomori but also acting like emotionally broken robots, which is why they can't adapt to society
      The Japanese are just Asian israelite and anime makes you a weak human pigs, no different than the goyslop that israelites shitting on
      Your parents banned anime from you just because it was moronic as FRICK
      follow your old man, follow your legacy, be your LEGEND

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        go eat a dog

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Blazblue is the game series that makes anime look much cooler than it really does.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sWAIz5S.png

      Why is animation dying?

      I fricking warned Western Animators about this. They needed to reform to save themselves, but they doubled down instead.

      It's over now, Anime is going to replace Western Animation instead of Western Animation learning from Anime to while staying true to itself.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >while there have been more western companies selling out their animation to Japan
        Westen animation companies been selling out more to video games than anime, actually. Hell, even anime itself has bent its knee to vidya via things like Cyberpunk.
        I can understand why, as vidya makes plenty more money than even anime does.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Hell, even anime itself has bent its knee to vidya via things like Cyberpunk.
          Anon, anime studios have been making adaptations of vidya since before 99% of this board was born.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and so did western animation studios
            That just enhances my point even further.

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know, spiderverse, mario and puss in boots were doing fine, I think the problem is that THEY ARE RELEASING EVERY SINGLE FRICKING MOVIE AT THE SAME TIME

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >THEY ARE RELEASING EVERY SINGLE FRICKING MOVIE AT THE SAME TIME
      This.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I think the problem is that THEY ARE RELEASING EVERY SINGLE FRICKING MOVIE AT THE SAME TIME
      No, the problem is that the movies are shit and no made for no one.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      But if I don't purposely send an animated movie to die by putting it up against fricking Avatar 2, how will I be able to cut costs across the animation studio and get a bonus for saving the company money?

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    film producers suck

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feature films shuffle to streaming quickly now.
    It's taking a chunk out of all box office.

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Animation isn't dying. Disney animation is

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Animation is … LE DYIN’
    >Mario Movie 1.3 billion
    >Spiderverse 650 million
    >Puss 500 million
    Animation and cinema isn’t dying, generic garbage from Disney no one wants to see is dying because it’s shut and has no audience or niche

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      2019 alone had 8 films on highest grossing list. Between 2020 and 2023, a three year period, there have been only 4. Looks grim.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Combination of recession giving people less money to spend at the box office and studios actively hating audiences and the IPs they are using
        The point is you have to cut your budget and you have to make something great and appealing to an audience for them to spend when they are spending less, they won’t watch Elemental just because the Disney label is slapped on

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >recession
          Journos and Hollywood both are Party loyalists so they'll toe the line and won't admit this.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >they won’t watch Elemental just because the Disney label is slapped on
          They would actively avoid it. Disney has ruined their reputation over the last few years

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            You’re a smooth brain if you actually believe that

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Happened with Indiana Jones 5

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              >just ignore the flops, people cancelling their Disney+ subscriptions and reduced sales in the theme parks

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          There isn't a recession and people actually have more cash on hand than they did before the pandemic. Stupid people just think the economy is in the shitter based purely on vibes

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Mario movie is....LE BASED AND KINO
      I hate nu-Chan. You literally will defend any position if it means dunking on Disney an extra time.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ummm one anime movie made 100 million sweaty, Anime is clearly more profitable.

      I don't even understand why moron weebs on here would even brag about this, do they really want westerners commissioning anime over and over instead of making their own movies?

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Elemental would probably fared better as a Disney+ exclusive.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      D+ doesn't make money

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the joke, anon.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    LMAO FRICKING REALLY
    Mission Impossible is literally coming out in a week. Audiences just don’t want to watch shit movies.
    Epic dramatic headline though. Who the hell wrote this?
    >Michael D. Sheer
    Wait a minute.
    >NY Times writer for the political column is Michael SheAr
    >no article exists
    >screencap is full of awkward sentence structure
    OP. Did you seriously photoshop a news article to make a cartoon thread?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone made a fake Craig McCraken interview thread the other day

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like an industrygay thing to do. God damn it, I hate autistic homosexuals like OP more than I hate the cartoons we pretend to be upset about.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      havent you notice the flood of hyper aggressive movie shitpost threads anon? They want to turn this place into Cinemaphile

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Audiences just don’t want to watch shit movies
      They watched Mario and every horrorslop that came out.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd watch a shit but fun movie over a shit movie that lectures you about how you're a racist.

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't people go watch Elemental? It's a new IP and it's cute.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I watched it. It was indicative of all the problems with modern Pixar. Not terrible, but so woefully devoid of originality and creative vision that you wonder why they even bothered. Yes I know a lot of people worked on the movie and the director based it on his upbringing. Big whoop, I could come up with a story based on my life too, but it probably won’t be a good movie. The only person I’m still fond of who works at Pixar today is Pete Docter, and he’s in an executive position now.
      >it’s a new IP
      If indie animation can survive the 60s and 70s it can survive the 2020s. Not my fault if disneygays suffer.
      >and it’s cute
      I have to admit, this is the best thing about the movie imo.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Pete Docter
        he's the entire problem, he keeps letting morons like Peter Sohn direct movies and use Pixar animation studios as therapy for their childhood trauma they have from their tiger mom.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like this has been discussed to death but
      >bad racism allegory
      >romcoms don't sell to kids
      >disney being actual evil
      >the film itself having plot issues
      bonus round
      >theaters in general aren't doing well
      >"it's cloddin' time", said the advertisements
      And thus we have the bomb that is Elemental. People aren't even waifugayging much like with Ruby Gillman.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Becuae it was lazy and feels fake. Like I think they used this as an excuse to not try and go oh don’t Disney hates new things guess we’ll just have to do another Toy Story.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you post the Mozilla Firefox logo?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because shills like you keep trying to push it down our throats. There used to be a time when you didn't have to beg people to go watch a Pixar movie and give it a chance. I'll wait until Pixar movies can speak for themselves again. Until then slop like this can die.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because modern Pixar is Disney Animation's toilet. They gutted it of talent when they bought it which is why every modern Pixar movie follows the joke Pixar fomula that people were making fun of 2 decades ago (that every Pixar movie is just "what if inanimate thing had a society and the ending was heartwarming") while missing what made Pixar movies actually good (good writing, a clear artistic vision and John Lasseter)

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Disney-owned media sites don't like when non-Disney companies are leading animation

    It's not.

  12. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The COVID pandemic may be responsible
    Translation: The COVID measures may be responsible

  13. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is photoshopped
    You actually photoshopped this

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      What’s the point of photoshopping something when there are plenty of easy to find articles saying the same thing? Is OP actually moronic? I don’t understand the troll attempt. There’s nothing to trick people with.

  14. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    trying to blame Covid.....

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Covid changed culture forever

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        yep, it gave hack filmmakers yet something else to blame their failures on.

  15. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    We can only hope.

  16. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think they don't have strong concepts. I heard Eleemntal is not that bad a film. But from the previews, it doesn't look like anything that'd appeal to kids/families. I remember begging to see Toy Story because I loved toys. I wanted to see Incredibles to see a superhero family. These recent Pixar concepts wouldn't have intrigued me.

  17. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >both film and animation
    Animation is not cinema confirmed.

  18. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    dark ages are needed to usher new golden ages

  19. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe Pixar should try making animated movies for kids like Illumination does, instead of making movies for Twitter.

  20. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Three syllables. WOKEISM

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Three syllables. ESCHIZO

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weird how the schizo always predicts flops accurately

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah Mario sure flopped hard
          :^)

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Weird how the schizo predicts flops accurately 99% of the time

  21. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    They keep making garbage.

  22. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's being killed

  23. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    im honestly surprised the mainstream reception around elemental includes the negative perspectives. i really expected it to mainly be "this movie is cute and touching, and a bunch of rude manchildren who hate fun aren't going to take that away from me!!!!"

  24. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why must we ALWAYS have the same threads up on Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile at the same time, FRICK OFF

  25. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We are making a movie for children
    >It should be a 100% romance with themes of racism
    >That's what children love after all
    It's a mystery

  26. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going to the theater is a pain in the ass. Most movies aren't worth watching on the big screen. Even when they are, they become available digitally within a month so you can watch it on your big screen at home.

  27. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shitty movie does bad at box office
    >IT'S ANADDA SHOAH THE END IS UPON US

  28. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't just Pixar/Disney.

  29. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. DISNEY is dying

  30. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP I can only assume you're posting a bait edit. (Not that I don't think Elemental looks mediocre mind you)

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Cinemaphile image is fake too. He’s that pathetic.

  31. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    they don't have furry females?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Animal x Animal
      cringe.
      It should be Human x Animal girl.
      That's peak.

  32. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a good thing. Finally time for studios to adapt or fricking die.

  33. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another industry blaming people not buying the product instead of blaming the shitty product. Happened to toys, now it's happening to film. Hopefully it bounces back, but I think it's going to permanently be much, much, much lower-budget as an industry.

  34. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollywood burning is a great thing.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remember: things never get better. Whatever will replace Hollywood will have worse writers, less skill, will be more pozzed and more brown. The sheltered Cali kids who are working on this dumpster fire of an industry today will get hired again to make even gayer shit somewhere else. Nothing will change if not for the worse, always and forever.

  35. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's getting tiring to see Americans claim a media is dead just because their local industry doesn't dominate it anymore. Just like theaters, malls or printed comics book, it's only failing for you.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      no one watches or cares about what shitty indie low budget garbage came out of your third world country
      >inb4 you're from some no name eastern european hellhole that ends with -ia

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        see? You literally know nothing about this industry or anything

  36. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cinema ticket prices skyrocketing in a recession which affects family films in particular
    >Concessions are still as expensive as before
    >Big cinema chains refusing to upgrade the cinema experience and often times it's worse than before the pandemic
    >Genre fatigue is a real issue
    >"But it's the customers' and streamings fault"
    Every time they blame anything other than the core problems with modern cinema chains

  37. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wokeness.

    Get rid of it.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Define "wokeness"

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pushing degeneracy that aims to divide people and erode traditional values that kept civilization stable. People like yourself.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Define "Degeneracy"

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            You.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Be white Anglo-saxon
              >Get called a "Degenerate" by some culture war tard mutt chimping out on Cinemaphile
              kek

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Welcome to the most degenerate in Cartoon forum in the Internet Anon!

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Identity politics

  38. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Michael D Shear is a New York Times writer. Michael D Sheer doesn’t exist. This article doesn’t exist.

  39. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    going to the movies sucks, the price is high and you have to put up with 50 other idiots you don't know.

  40. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >OH GOD THE CORPORATE-GOVERNMENT MERGER ISN'T POPULAR WITH THE MASSES
    >QUICK, TELL THEM WE'LL KILL THE CONCEPT OF ENTERTAINMENT ITSELF IF THEY DON'T COMPLY

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      This isn’t a real article.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        And you're not a real person, but here I am replying to you.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cute, homosexual, but I don’t understand the autism it takes to make a fake article for (You)s

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            A fake article can still embody a real sentiment. Even one not held by the "faker."

  41. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jews

  42. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pixar fatigue

  43. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    feels like a weird PR campaign specifically because Pixar isn't doing amazing at the moment.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OH GOD THE CORPORATE-GOVERNMENT MERGER ISN'T POPULAR WITH THE MASSES
      >QUICK, TELL THEM WE'LL KILL THE CONCEPT OF ENTERTAINMENT ITSELF IF THEY DON'T COMPLY

  44. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too many outlets for entertainment these days, to where there isn't any real urgency to go watch a new movie in a theater that might just be okay at best. Especially if it's inevitably going to end up on streaming services a month or two later.

  45. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A year full of unappealing releases such as racebait mermaid, senile Indiana jones, pedo flash and ps2 elementals is filled with flops
    >OH NO THE CINEMA IS DYING DO YOU REMEMBER COVID???
    Is this how Hollywood guys cope

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ps2 elementals
      Even a PS2 game usually looks more exciting than a Pixar film

  46. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Movies that aren't something new or special will bomb. Everything that is bombing is something that looks generic and more and more people cannot pay premium prices for one movie

  47. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >So we're still not going to talk about the elephant in the room huh? What do all these flopped films have in common?
    Alright what is it that exactly they have in common?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      200M budget, for a movie that looks like it cost 75M and for an audience that can make 100M on average. It's mathematically doomed to fail lol.

      Besides that, too much gay shit, too much preaching, too little entertainment.

      morons will blame it on covid, like everything else. It's always the magic invisible man's fault.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They removed my comment from last night

      Holy kek the mods on Cinemaphile are delusional and pozzed af.

  48. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Big studios moved to 3d because they wanted to make it too expensive for start-ups to compete with them. They simultaneously made it too expensive for themselves.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait you actually think 3D CGI is more expensive than hand drawn? Are you moronic?

      • 12 months ago
        NTA

        The good stuff is

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s just simply not true. Or it’s based on you comparing “the good stuff” on the CGI end to “the bad stuff” on the hand drawn… which doesn’t even exist these days.

  49. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    We won't know if cinema is actually dying until Barbie and Oppenheimer release, the two movies that have recieved some hype.
    The movies this summer had so far have just been utter shit.
    >Pixar's most laughably generic film to date to the point of it sounding more like a satirical College Humor sketch than an actual film
    >An Indianna Jones movie starring a geriatric 90 year old Indy
    >Dreamworks toddler film that doesn't even seem to look like it tried to appeal anyone past the age of 9

    None of these films sound appealing at all.
    Meanwhile despite Cinemaphile's delusional autism Spiderverse, a film that people were excited for, was a success.

  50. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    This statement is gonna age like milk

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh wait never mind it’s a fake article

  51. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The End of Cinema
    Can they be anymore dramatic? Jesus fricking Christ, Disney literally can't comprehend why people don't want to watch the slop they are putting out to the point that they will blame anything other than the obvious reasons, so delusional

  52. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    SUPER FRICKING MARIO

  53. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    More furry movies it that easy.

  54. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    hey

  55. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it wasn't obvious already everybody is tired of wokeshit. Diversity hires are incompetent, and agendas in the name of diversity are distracting, unimmersive and get in the way of good storytelling. Netflix, Disney and WB just fired their DEI execs. Everyone's learning that ESG turns everything it touches to shit.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >articles b***hing about how animals have more rep in kid's books than human ones
      lol

  56. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Don't care, whoever made this fake article is correctly taking information that current western movies are underperforming while there have been more western companies selling out their animation to Japan, first with Starwars, then Cyberpunk, and now with Batman

  57. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's cinema that's dying. Animation in fact is thriving in the internet age.

  58. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is animation dying?

    Pay attention. Entertainment as a whole is dying. There is no bread and the circuses get worse every day. Soon the real new entertainment will be blood in the streets.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      This isn’t a real article.

      [...]
      Don't care, whoever made this fake article is correctly taking information that current western movies are underperforming while there have been more western companies selling out their animation to Japan, first with Starwars, then Cyberpunk, and now with Batman

      Batman TAS was made by mostly Asian studios. Most of the best American cartoons were made by mostly Asian animators

      This article is fake.

      I don’t disagree gays and diversity ruined movies and comcis and cartoons,

      This is still a fake article and you look moronic discussing it. Now seeth like a homosexual and tell me I “Reddit space” as if I hadn’t been here for over a decade before you first posted here because you have nothing else to say.

  59. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Pedowood. Let it burn.

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