Because Moore will never work for them again. Miller will, and flat out told them if they want to use Carrie, he'll write them a whole miniseries. And he is, the art being done by Ben Caldwell. It's one of those "done when it's done" things though.
I can see that working at a private business but not a privately traded company >Dear investors, we would like to use our profitable asset to make money, it's just that one guy will get upset about it so no millions of dollars for you 🙁
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
Because Miller is a money maker for them, and not upsetting that money maker by alienating him further when he's willing to work and compromise with them.
Batman 89, BTAS, Begins, TDKR, both The Batman 04 cartoon and the movie, and more all use elements of stuff Miller wrote. He's MADE that company millions. That's why he can swing his dick around.
And it's not an absolute thing because the Gotham Knights show still used "Carrie Kelley"(in name only). It's more an agreement between Miller and the comic wing.
I see, as an aside when everyone shits on Batman (including DC's own properties like Harley Quinn Show, Batkek) they're really just shitting on this dude for good writing?
>>Hasn't appeared in any stories over the last 20 years
She has, and she's Batman's true successor according to the best writer the character ever had.
That said she has almost know personality beyond being a kinda punky girl. She feels like she's barely there in DKR.
Absolutely, and he's not even my favorite Bat writer(Alan Grant is). In terms of pure influence and value though, he is undoubtedly the peak. Finger and O'Neil are the only real competitors(especially Finger, beyond the obvious "created all the important parts of Batman" thing,there's a ton of ideas and concepts he made up that people don't even know he did. The Wayne murder being a planned hit? Finger. Joker's millions? Finger. The Red Hood origin? Finger. )
But I digress. Who would you say is better?
>the best writer the character ever had.
Look, I love Miller and his take on Batman, but no, just no. Denny O'Neil, Archie Goodwin and Matt Wagner are all better Batman writers than Miller.
He's still the worst of them. Other writers were able to make good work out of his concepts.
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don't underestimate comic nerds dickriding for guys just because they wrote hundreds of monthly comics. They will insist a random issue is better than something like DKR.
She's an Elseworlds character who has 4 issues total of appearances. There's nothing to talk about. Even Stephanie Brown was a Robin longer than Carrie Kelly.
Tomasi wrote Carrie into the New 52 and Frank Miller got so pissy about it that he told DC he'd let them slap his name on Dark Knight III if they would immediately put a stop to that (which they did).
Because she exists in a bad future AU. At most you can make her Terry's Robin, but trying to use her in any fashion in the "present" is moronic. And at that point, trying to use her runs into the same problems as trying to use Terry, which is that nobody in the DC boardroom or at Warner want "Batman" to be anything but Bruce Wayne who's perpetually in his 20s or 30s. Pitching a "Batman Beyond" that involves Bruce Wayne being taken out of cryogenic suspension in a cyberpunk future to be Batman again would be likelier to succeed, and nobody wants that.
>At most you can make her Terry's Robin,
She'd be Terry's mom's age. TDK isn't far future,it was "contemporary" to the 80's, at most a decade later. >itching a "Batman Beyond" that involves Bruce Wayne being taken out of cryogenic suspension in a cyberpunk future to be Batman again would be likelier to succeed, and nobody wants that.
I can think of two similar premises: Batman Year 100 and Batman Superman generations. In the former, Bruce's immortality is more vague, though.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. You're fricking moronic if you think TDK3's depiction of Carrie as Batman was bad, or as bad or worse than the others, other than Damian Wayne.
It's a fine kid's cartoon, no where near the quality of even Miller's worst work though. Terry's a weak link in the show. By episode 3 he's already b***hing about being Batman.
She's really not interesting. She would need a new backstory. Her interactions with Batman were fine, but her backstory was kinda like "Okay I'm Robin now, bye leftist hippie parents."
(I'd love to actually see a new, more current story about a conservative Carrie Kalley fleeing from her ignorant liberal parents but noone would do that in 2024)
Because if we want to talk about a Robin with breasts we’ll always go to Steph first.
Carrie is technically the only Robin (and Batman sidekick) I care about.
because she's lame
because Batman and Robin 1997 has the superior robin with breasts.
No one cares about redheads. She needs to get blackswapped
They did that to her in that CW series
Because she is a filthy NERD
A very cute nerd!
There’s a rule at DC not to use her out of respect to miller
But leaving the Watchmen franchise alone out of respect to Moore is out of bounds for them, right?
Because Moore will never work for them again. Miller will, and flat out told them if they want to use Carrie, he'll write them a whole miniseries. And he is, the art being done by Ben Caldwell. It's one of those "done when it's done" things though.
Cute.
I personally prefer Mia Mizoguchi as the (next) female robin.
How recent is this? Looks like they gave Mia’s glasses to her… or is it the other way around?
2018, but suffice to say any Robin wearing the glasses is homaging Carrie.
Then I hope she does a good job hommaging if she ever becomes an official robin
I call bullshit. Moore took a payout. That's why he did that virtue signalling nonsense about giving all his money to BurnLootMurder.
It was indeed a Quid Pro Quo.
Why would they respect Moore? Moore respects no one but himself.
I can see that working at a private business but not a privately traded company
>Dear investors, we would like to use our profitable asset to make money, it's just that one guy will get upset about it so no millions of dollars for you 🙁
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
Because Miller is a money maker for them, and not upsetting that money maker by alienating him further when he's willing to work and compromise with them.
Batman 89, BTAS, Begins, TDKR, both The Batman 04 cartoon and the movie, and more all use elements of stuff Miller wrote. He's MADE that company millions. That's why he can swing his dick around.
And it's not an absolute thing because the Gotham Knights show still used "Carrie Kelley"(in name only). It's more an agreement between Miller and the comic wing.
I see, as an aside when everyone shits on Batman (including DC's own properties like Harley Quinn Show, Batkek) they're really just shitting on this dude for good writing?
Because she's the only robin Batman fricked and that makes it weird.
>Not Cannon
>Hasn't appeared in any stories over the last 20 years
Who fricking cares?
>>Hasn't appeared in any stories over the last 20 years
She has, and she's Batman's true successor according to the best writer the character ever had.
That said she has almost know personality beyond being a kinda punky girl. She feels like she's barely there in DKR.
Damn, that costume is pretty slick. One of the better Bat successor getups for sure. Do wish it incorporated her visor though.
>the best writer the character ever had.
lol
Absolutely, and he's not even my favorite Bat writer(Alan Grant is). In terms of pure influence and value though, he is undoubtedly the peak. Finger and O'Neil are the only real competitors(especially Finger, beyond the obvious "created all the important parts of Batman" thing,there's a ton of ideas and concepts he made up that people don't even know he did. The Wayne murder being a planned hit? Finger. Joker's millions? Finger. The Red Hood origin? Finger. )
But I digress. Who would you say is better?
>Alan Grant is
My homie
>Best writer the character ever had
Who, Miller?
>the best writer the character ever had.
Look, I love Miller and his take on Batman, but no, just no. Denny O'Neil, Archie Goodwin and Matt Wagner are all better Batman writers than Miller.
Miller is better than all of those.
lolno.
Gardner Fox mogs them all. Frank is better than Denny bevause he actually bothers to tell Batman stories
Gardner Fox is the worst one from all of those.
Gardner Fox invented the DC universe kiddo
He's still the worst of them. Other writers were able to make good work out of his concepts.
don't underestimate comic nerds dickriding for guys just because they wrote hundreds of monthly comics. They will insist a random issue is better than something like DKR.
The manga mindset
Is that writer Snyder?
I don’t remember Christopher Nolan writing her?
>Christopher Nolan
>writing
artist?
Frank Miller
Rafael Grampa
Someone draw her barefoot cleaning her glasses or begging DC for a comic (dunno when was her last comic so I'm not sure if this applies).
I like this artstyle, very "wrinkly". That's a pretty good Batman suit too.
She actually has a New 52 analog that was Damien's tutor or something for a few issues
Because she's a girl.
She's not main canon, moron.
As if this means anything at all in the current state of DC comics....
It means what it means, that she's not main canon, or at least not "present" canon.
>Terry
>Carrie
Heh
What do they call these two? The Dublin Duo? The Celtic Crusaders? The Drunk Knights?
Well, for starters she's not even part of the main universe.
She's an Elseworlds character who has 4 issues total of appearances. There's nothing to talk about. Even Stephanie Brown was a Robin longer than Carrie Kelly.
Tomasi wrote Carrie into the New 52 and Frank Miller got so pissy about it that he told DC he'd let them slap his name on Dark Knight III if they would immediately put a stop to that (which they did).
Complete mistake, IMO. I'd have taken what Tomasi had planned for Carrie over DKR III in a heartbeat.
Cause she's ugly.
Because her story takes place in an alternate future.
i love size difference in the tags
Because she exists in a bad future AU. At most you can make her Terry's Robin, but trying to use her in any fashion in the "present" is moronic. And at that point, trying to use her runs into the same problems as trying to use Terry, which is that nobody in the DC boardroom or at Warner want "Batman" to be anything but Bruce Wayne who's perpetually in his 20s or 30s. Pitching a "Batman Beyond" that involves Bruce Wayne being taken out of cryogenic suspension in a cyberpunk future to be Batman again would be likelier to succeed, and nobody wants that.
>At most you can make her Terry's Robin,
She'd be Terry's mom's age. TDK isn't far future,it was "contemporary" to the 80's, at most a decade later.
>itching a "Batman Beyond" that involves Bruce Wayne being taken out of cryogenic suspension in a cyberpunk future to be Batman again would be likelier to succeed, and nobody wants that.
I can think of two similar premises: Batman Year 100 and Batman Superman generations. In the former, Bruce's immortality is more vague, though.
Because her Batman is one of the worst takes on the character
based
No one likes her as Batman, though.
Compared to Nigerally Who and anyone other than Damien Wayne?
>Compared
Not necessary.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. You're fricking moronic if you think TDK3's depiction of Carrie as Batman was bad, or as bad or worse than the others, other than Damian Wayne.
because she sucks and is super lame, this has to be bait.
Are you a closeted homosexual or something?
get ready to get dogpiled by aging millenials who thought Batman Beyond was the coolest thing since pizza fridays.
Yeah dude, Batman Beyond fricking sucked ass, yeah.
It's a fine kid's cartoon, no where near the quality of even Miller's worst work though. Terry's a weak link in the show. By episode 3 he's already b***hing about being Batman.
You write this shit like someone cares about your opinion.
here you go champ, have fun
Can you show on the doll where the Batman Beyond fans touched you?
Hell yeah, thanks anon!
Pizza fridays are pretty cool tbqh
She's really not interesting. She would need a new backstory. Her interactions with Batman were fine, but her backstory was kinda like "Okay I'm Robin now, bye leftist hippie parents."
(I'd love to actually see a new, more current story about a conservative Carrie Kalley fleeing from her ignorant liberal parents but noone would do that in 2024)
This panel is so pornographic.
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I like her, but frank believes she shouldn't be in comics