You get interested in a character for their strengths, you love them for their weaknesses.
Also Scott has some pretty high tier energy output by X standards. He could easily have accidentally killed Bobby, Warren and Hank but he was disciplined enough to keep the lenses on always.
He was supposed to be relatable by scrawny nerds with glasses
>You get interested in a character for their strengths, you love them for their weaknesses.
And this strenght is always being the leader for no reason other than plot armor while his weakness is whatever new character assassination the current writer can bring to make him stay relevant for 5 more minutes.
if beast bothered to, he could build a helmet like magneto's to protect him from psychic attacks and simply wear rose quartz armor. beast could just dismember many opponents with only normal strength and durability
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Why is Cyclops so lame? He can only shoot lasers from his eyes and that's it
let's be honest with ourselves. the x-men would be better off without jean grey, cyclops, wolverine and emma frost sucking up all the attention
>He can only shoot lasers from his eyes
He has super hearing and balance. Like a less powerful version of Daredevil.
He's also a world-class martial artist and brilliant battlefield tactician.
BTW his optic blasts are not lasers.
>that his nerd-mind turns out to be really good at geometry/physics
NTA I've always wanted to make it canon that Scott's a mid tier physics or math genius who enjoys reading scientific journals in his downtime. He wouldn't be Reed or Tony level, but he'd know a thing or two about a thing or two in a particular field. A sort of realistic genius, instead of the usual omniscientists. It'd contrast nicely with McCoy being the biologist. X-Men really lack any brainy types that aren't in the bio-business, and if you're already running with Scott as a hyper-autist who calculates geometric positions and energy outputs in a second, might as well expand on it.
frick off, his biggest power is batman levels of plot armor
I agree completely. He's hyper-paranoid about hurting people so he not only avoids looking directly at people period if he can help it, he obsessively calculates angles for the least collateral damage should he "go off". This just sort of naturally expands into an interest in physics that then turns out to be an effective combat skill too so he gets pretty into it.
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He's the leader because he's the most responsible. Full stop. The character has just been around so long that the famous subversion of that have become more week known than the actual core character. This is a trap for all beloved capeshits.
>most reasonable
sorry no. 15 years ago or whatever, he had the x-men on an island in a California bay that can easily be bombarded by artillery then said "they have us surrounded"
this is the guy that kept x-force a secret, lied to beast about making a time bomb to kill bishop, and threatened beast's life by putting his finger on his visor when beast disobeyed the order to kill bishop. this is the guy that decided to NOT keep beast, one of the smartest mutants, out of the loop on secret missions. the layer of stupidity goes further when you consider that beast is a former avenger and if shit went south, beast wouldn't be able to talk the x-men's way out of serious trouble if he didn't know what the frick was going on. cyclops should have stayed dead, the only people who care about him are pathetic people who want a self insert so they can fantasize about psychic girlfriends and teen girls who crush on them
No, he has his own mythos and can branch out as a solo act. Hell, if you take out the mutant aspect of his character and just make him a magic character who is cursed with regeneration and gets an adamantium skeleton, he could still work since he doesn't rely on mutant vs human bullshittery as much as the other X-Men. He has stories in the Canadian wilderness, Madripoor, Japan, and the Hand that he doesn't need the X-Men
if beast bothered to, he could build a helmet like magneto's to protect him from psychic attacks and simply wear rose quartz armor. beast could just dismember many opponents with only normal strength and durability
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let's be honest with ourselves. the x-men would be better off without jean grey, cyclops, wolverine and emma frost sucking up all the attention
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frick off, his biggest power is batman levels of plot armor
[...] >most reasonable
sorry no. 15 years ago or whatever, he had the x-men on an island in a california bay that can easily be bombarded by artillery then said "they have us surrounded"
this is the guy that kept x-force a secret, lied to beast about making a time bomb to kill bishop, and threatened beast's life by putting his finger on his visor when beast disobeyed the order to kill bishop. this is the guy that decided to NOT keep beast, one of the smartest mutants, out of the loop on secret missions. the layer of stupidity goes further when you consider that beast is a former avenger and if shit went south, beast wouldn't be able to talk the x-men's way out of serious trouble if he didn't know what the frick was going on. cyclops should have stayed dead, the only people who care about him are pathetic people who want a self insert so they can fantasize about psychic girlfriends and teen girls who crush on them
Stop samegayging and read some comics from before 2000.
No, he has his own mythos and can branch out as a solo act. Hell, if you take out the mutant aspect of his character and just make him a magic character who is cursed with regeneration and gets an adamantium skeleton, he could still work since he doesn't rely on mutant vs human bullshittery as much as the other X-Men. He has stories in the Canadian wilderness, Madripoor, Japan, and the Hand that he doesn't need the X-Men
A good deal of the extra myth you can thank Claremont for, and most X-Men he really likes got that treatment. Namely, Storm.
I find it funny that the only time they managed to turn the popular narrative of him being a "lame boy scout" is when they turned him into a dime store Che Guevara and the Rightclops homosexualry. Even in the X-Men movies they still couldn't figure out how to make him likeable, worse, made him even more of a b***h to Wolverine, the most useless member of the team.
Which is a shame, because I like boy scout characters the most, or characters that try to be but have their own failings, but he's been through and done so much bullshit that I can't even look at the character the same way anymore, he's tainted.
>Even in the X-Men movies they still couldn't figure out how to make him likeable
As if they tried. People writing those movies clearly only watched the cartoons, and even then looks like they didn't pay all that much attention.
How has this thread gone so long without anyone correcting you? Cyclops' powers have nothing to do with lasers. Cyclops' eyes shoot punches from the punch dimension.
That was clear bait for a Cyclops appreciation thread.
>He can only shoot lasers from his eyes
He has super hearing and balance. Like a less powerful version of Daredevil.
He's also a world-class martial artist and brilliant battlefield tactician.
See, this is why I have my doubts that the X phase of the MCU can possibly be good. Studios listen to audiences that care about power wank
Scott should be a nerd who has eyes that put out shit-scary amounts of energy, destroyed his family's home and got him sent to boarding school. He should have been effectively blind for weeks because he couldn't open his eyes until Xavier figured out the ruby-quartz lenses. The surprise power boost is that his nerd-mind turns out to be really good at geometry/physics and let's him really optimize his targeting once he's able to aim then shit-zappers.
He doesn't need to be Batman to be a good character.
>that his nerd-mind turns out to be really good at geometry/physics
NTA I've always wanted to make it canon that Scott's a mid tier physics or math genius who enjoys reading scientific journals in his downtime. He wouldn't be Reed or Tony level, but he'd know a thing or two about a thing or two in a particular field. A sort of realistic genius, instead of the usual omniscientists. It'd contrast nicely with McCoy being the biologist. X-Men really lack any brainy types that aren't in the bio-business, and if you're already running with Scott as a hyper-autist who calculates geometric positions and energy outputs in a second, might as well expand on it.
I agree completely. He's hyper-paranoid about hurting people so he not only avoids looking directly at people period if he can help it, he obsessively calculates angles for the least collateral damage should he "go off". This just sort of naturally expands into an interest in physics that then turns out to be an effective combat skill too so he gets pretty into it.
>You get interested in a character for their strengths, you love them for their weaknesses.
And this strenght is always being the leader for no reason other than plot armor while his weakness is whatever new character assassination the current writer can bring to make him stay relevant for 5 more minutes.
He's the leader because he's the most responsible. Full stop. The character has just been around so long that the famous subversion of that have become more week known than the actual core character. This is a trap for all beloved capeshits.
>He's the leader because he's the most responsible >The character has just been around so long that the famous subversion of that have become more week known than the actual core character.
It happened so many times that it can no longer be considered an exception, it's the rule.
Oh woe is me! I have perfect hair and washboard abs where all I need to do is wear sunglasses or have corrective eye surgery. Being a mutant is just like being homosexual!
>washboard abs
His nickname was literally always "Slim". He earned those "washboard abs" with intensive training over several years of superheroing. Learn from it, fatass.
Scott is one of those bland and boring boyscotts so Marvel tried to "change" only to "fix" him several times only to make him an inconsistent mess. So he's a shitty character who got even worse.
I find it funny that the only time they managed to turn the popular narrative of him being a "lame boy scout" is when they turned him into a dime store Che Guevara and the Rightclops homosexualry. Even in the X-Men movies they still couldn't figure out how to make him likeable, worse, made him even more of a b***h to Wolverine, the most useless member of the team.
Which is a shame, because I like boy scout characters the most, or characters that try to be but have their own failings, but he's been through and done so much bullshit that I can't even look at the character the same way anymore, he's tainted.
How has this thread gone so long without anyone correcting you? Cyclops' powers have nothing to do with lasers. Cyclops' eyes shoot punches from the punch dimension.
>He can only shoot lasers from his eyes and that's it
The best way to put it is that as a kid it was the equivalent of having a loaded gun in your head at all times.
As an adult, it's pretty much a nuke.
Wolverine stole his haunted loner bit, then stole Beast's regeneration powers, then became a super kung fu dude. Originally Wolverine was a kinda tanky butthole manlet with a super sniffer and claws.
I still remember Scott putting out the fire with his eye beams. I thought it was some of the coolest shit ever at the time because it was a rather creative use of a destructive power.
He was actually pretty likeable on X-Men Evolution. It helped that by making Scott and Jean teenagers, the whole rivalry with Logan was avoided completely, so there was no need to cast Cyclops as an ass to make Wolverine cooler.
He's the team Leader. He's supposed to have the most simple ability. Just look at Capt. America from the Avengers or Robin from Teen Titans. Their job is to direct everyone else in using their powers while having one solid trick of their own.
because he's a bad character but writers are forced to use him because he's the first X-men protagonist
You get interested in a character for their strengths, you love them for their weaknesses.
Also Scott has some pretty high tier energy output by X standards. He could easily have accidentally killed Bobby, Warren and Hank but he was disciplined enough to keep the lenses on always.
He was supposed to be relatable by scrawny nerds with glasses
>You get interested in a character for their strengths, you love them for their weaknesses.
And this strenght is always being the leader for no reason other than plot armor while his weakness is whatever new character assassination the current writer can bring to make him stay relevant for 5 more minutes.
>easily kill hank
if beast bothered to, he could build a helmet like magneto's to protect him from psychic attacks and simply wear rose quartz armor. beast could just dismember many opponents with only normal strength and durability
let's be honest with ourselves. the x-men would be better off without jean grey, cyclops, wolverine and emma frost sucking up all the attention
frick off, his biggest power is batman levels of plot armor
>most reasonable
sorry no. 15 years ago or whatever, he had the x-men on an island in a California bay that can easily be bombarded by artillery then said "they have us surrounded"
this is the guy that kept x-force a secret, lied to beast about making a time bomb to kill bishop, and threatened beast's life by putting his finger on his visor when beast disobeyed the order to kill bishop. this is the guy that decided to NOT keep beast, one of the smartest mutants, out of the loop on secret missions. the layer of stupidity goes further when you consider that beast is a former avenger and if shit went south, beast wouldn't be able to talk the x-men's way out of serious trouble if he didn't know what the frick was going on. cyclops should have stayed dead, the only people who care about him are pathetic people who want a self insert so they can fantasize about psychic girlfriends and teen girls who crush on them
this was the same guy who kept x-force a secret, then would lecture Legion about telling people plans so people could trust Legion
You are much dumber than Hank. Stop inserting as him it's pathetic.
Wolverine basically is the X-Men
No, he has his own mythos and can branch out as a solo act. Hell, if you take out the mutant aspect of his character and just make him a magic character who is cursed with regeneration and gets an adamantium skeleton, he could still work since he doesn't rely on mutant vs human bullshittery as much as the other X-Men. He has stories in the Canadian wilderness, Madripoor, Japan, and the Hand that he doesn't need the X-Men
Stop samegayging and read some comics from before 2000.
A good deal of the extra myth you can thank Claremont for, and most X-Men he really likes got that treatment. Namely, Storm.
>Even in the X-Men movies they still couldn't figure out how to make him likeable
As if they tried. People writing those movies clearly only watched the cartoons, and even then looks like they didn't pay all that much attention.
That was clear bait for a Cyclops appreciation thread.
>He can only shoot lasers from his eyes
He has super hearing and balance. Like a less powerful version of Daredevil.
He's also a world-class martial artist and brilliant battlefield tactician.
BTW his optic blasts are not lasers.
See, this is why I have my doubts that the X phase of the MCU can possibly be good. Studios listen to audiences that care about power wank
Scott should be a nerd who has eyes that put out shit-scary amounts of energy, destroyed his family's home and got him sent to boarding school. He should have been effectively blind for weeks because he couldn't open his eyes until Xavier figured out the ruby-quartz lenses. The surprise power boost is that his nerd-mind turns out to be really good at geometry/physics and let's him really optimize his targeting once he's able to aim then shit-zappers.
He doesn't need to be Batman to be a good character.
>that his nerd-mind turns out to be really good at geometry/physics
NTA I've always wanted to make it canon that Scott's a mid tier physics or math genius who enjoys reading scientific journals in his downtime. He wouldn't be Reed or Tony level, but he'd know a thing or two about a thing or two in a particular field. A sort of realistic genius, instead of the usual omniscientists. It'd contrast nicely with McCoy being the biologist. X-Men really lack any brainy types that aren't in the bio-business, and if you're already running with Scott as a hyper-autist who calculates geometric positions and energy outputs in a second, might as well expand on it.
I agree completely. He's hyper-paranoid about hurting people so he not only avoids looking directly at people period if he can help it, he obsessively calculates angles for the least collateral damage should he "go off". This just sort of naturally expands into an interest in physics that then turns out to be an effective combat skill too so he gets pretty into it.
He's the leader because he's the most responsible. Full stop. The character has just been around so long that the famous subversion of that have become more week known than the actual core character. This is a trap for all beloved capeshits.
>He's the leader because he's the most responsible
>The character has just been around so long that the famous subversion of that have become more week known than the actual core character.
It happened so many times that it can no longer be considered an exception, it's the rule.
>He has super hearing and balance
False.
He has optic blasts and enhanced spatial awareness.
No super hearing and balance.
He has super aiming skills like Bullseye, when he got de-powered he was a crack shot with a gun and could pull of all sorts of trick shots
The omega can blast you to Jupiter.
*yawn*
sorry anon, that's so OP i can't take it seriously, even for a comic book
Blame the writers for passing the omega level title around like candy. Scott is a Omega level that could destroy the earth with a really good blast.
Did we really have to reach dragon ball level of bullshit?
Then you have a very low tolerance for super powers. Blasting you to Jupitar is pretty low on the comic book power level scaling.
He also has the power to attract female mutant telepaths.
Being a huge fan of the Giant Size X-Men era, I have a soft spot for Cyclops
Oh woe is me! I have perfect hair and washboard abs where all I need to do is wear sunglasses or have corrective eye surgery. Being a mutant is just like being homosexual!
You realize that gay people can also have washboard abs, right?
>washboard abs
His nickname was literally always "Slim". He earned those "washboard abs" with intensive training over several years of superheroing. Learn from it, fatass.
Well, you sure are as annoying and dumb as muggas.
But that's wrong though. He also owns a jetpack!
Let's see you shoot lasers from your eyes bucko.
He also has the power of friendship.
Scott is one of those bland and boring boyscotts so Marvel tried to "change" only to "fix" him several times only to make him an inconsistent mess. So he's a shitty character who got even worse.
OP is the same kind of moron who thinks Captain America is lame because he's only peak-human.
I find it funny that the only time they managed to turn the popular narrative of him being a "lame boy scout" is when they turned him into a dime store Che Guevara and the Rightclops homosexualry. Even in the X-Men movies they still couldn't figure out how to make him likeable, worse, made him even more of a b***h to Wolverine, the most useless member of the team.
Which is a shame, because I like boy scout characters the most, or characters that try to be but have their own failings, but he's been through and done so much bullshit that I can't even look at the character the same way anymore, he's tainted.
ITS MAHVEL BAYBEE
How has this thread gone so long without anyone correcting you? Cyclops' powers have nothing to do with lasers. Cyclops' eyes shoot punches from the punch dimension.
Because nuCinemaphile doesn't remember punches from the punch dimension
That explains why there's so many people calling Cyclops lame. Read a comic, nu/co/.
How is that lame
>He can only shoot lasers from his eyes and that's it
The best way to put it is that as a kid it was the equivalent of having a loaded gun in your head at all times.
As an adult, it's pretty much a nuke.
Wolverine stole his haunted loner bit, then stole Beast's regeneration powers, then became a super kung fu dude. Originally Wolverine was a kinda tanky butthole manlet with a super sniffer and claws.
>butthole manlet with a super sniffer
>Hang on, bub. Betsy just let one rip.
X-Men will never be kino enough to make Wolverine a BrapChad. Why live?
I miss MAA.
We had three X-Men cartoons.
Every single episode focusing on Cyclops' solo adventures was great in all of them.
The Purple Man episode of TAS has some awful animation but Cykes is so cool in it. Saves the mutant kids and gets the girl.
I still remember Scott putting out the fire with his eye beams. I thought it was some of the coolest shit ever at the time because it was a rather creative use of a destructive power.
He was actually pretty likeable on X-Men Evolution. It helped that by making Scott and Jean teenagers, the whole rivalry with Logan was avoided completely, so there was no need to cast Cyclops as an ass to make Wolverine cooler.
He sucked in the first couple seasons though.
cyclops is only cool when you can see his hair
He's the team Leader. He's supposed to have the most simple ability. Just look at Capt. America from the Avengers or Robin from Teen Titans. Their job is to direct everyone else in using their powers while having one solid trick of their own.
People who thinks Cyke is lame doesn't get him at all. They should just admit that they love macho Logan
The only unlame cyclops is Demoman
His little brother is better.