Why is DC not capitalising on Batman Beyond like Marvel is with Miles? Terry is a far more interesting character than Miles, has his own rogues gallery and story unlike Miles who is relying on Peter for everything.
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DC doesn't even know what the frick they're doing half the time.
Who would win in a fight?
Miles, because he has the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.
Miles because he's a poochie with donut steel powers that change every week. Terry is Peter Parker as Batman
Those hands look like tree branches.
Miles would win because he can always rely on his electrocution ability even when he’s losing the fight.
I wonder.
Terry faced homosexuals like him once and won.
Depends on the prep time.
Spider Men will always beat Batmen, spider sense is broken as frick and they're all too slow to hit any of them, plus the fact that they're superhuman
Spider powers are just too OP. Super strength, super agility and super reflexes mean he's really hard to hit and he hits really hard. Terry would have to always be two steps ahead of him just to make it a fair fight
Terry. Everyone is forgetting that Terry's batsuit is also power armor.
I know it's power armour, Miles' power is just bullshit hax that works on robots, demons, electo, hulk-offshoots, Carnage, etc. (I think Rhino too, but I'm not sure. I know Miles overpowers a charging Rhino)
Frankly if Miles solo'd Galactus I wouldn't be surprised.
The default spider-man powerset rolls the power armor anyways. Even if mile's had half the potency of the basic abilities, he'd still be above Terry with exception of flight.
With prep time it would easily be Terry. Once he gets a handle on what your powers are and figures out a counter measure, you're done. He could just do what iron man did and confuse his spider sense. His suit would protect him from that stupid electricity move he has, he could electrocute miles right back in fact.
I really liked the thing they did with Bane. That was a sad but fitting end for him.
If dc knew what they were doing they wouldn't be dc
>Terry is far more interesting than Miles
Annnnnd you lost me there. They are both equally shit and uninteresting characters.
Even if you don't like Terry, saying he's on Miles' level is completely disingenuous.
Terry has his own supporting cast, his own villains, his own setting, his own personality, doesn't shit on Bruce, his own style of super-heroics, his own flaws, etc.
The Miles equivalent of Terry would be Bruce dying and a random person winning a lottery to inherit Bruce's wealth and property. Said person is also the world's best detective, but better somehow (like, he can solve crimes without needing evidence).
Also Bruce's cast all give the new guy approval to go around claiming to be Batman.
My kne and only quibble with Beyond's portrayal of Bruce/Batman was implying in the Return of the Joker that Batman wouldn't cheat in a fight or fight dirty, but Terry will. Besides that DC is/was sitting on a cash cow but superhero fatigue is here and it's probably too late to get a Beyond movie off the ground. A game could be a good start though.
>A game could be a good start though.
>tfw no batman beyond arkham ever despite being the natural successor following knights ending
FRICK YOU Rocksteady/WB for making the game that no one wanted.
Terry is equally as boring as Miles and has a shit rouges gallery filled with Spider-Man villain knock offs. He is quite literally the worst person to pick as the "this is the much better legacy character then Miles". If you said Wally or Kyle you could've made a decent argument. Batman Beyond isn't amazing you guys just like the atheistic and forgot about the rest of the show.
Every time DC has revisited Batman Beyond with a different creative team, it's been terrible. Just let your good memories stay in the past.
Terry is white.
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I thought he was a spic
Terry never fought anyone with plot armor like Miles
What is the Joker? the being with literal plot armor even at fricking Marvel that makes even spiderhomie and others envious of it?
Nah, Joker dies all the time. Jason got to kill one, even. Miles is far beyond the Joker's level of plot armor.
>I thought he was a spic
>Terry McGinnis
Batman Beyond already got ruined because Timm couldn’t control his love of cuckoldry, let it rest in peace.
Terry was doomed as soon as this brat was created.
And yet this Brat is fated to drop being batman to become head of the League.
He even endorsed Terry as his successor because of that.
The same reason Marvel isn’t capitalizing on May Parker Spider-Girl. Because it takes place too far into the future. And we have our own problems in the present right now.
>The same reason Marvel isn’t capitalizing on May Parker Spider-Girl. Because it takes place too far into the future
MC2 wasn't the future. It was an alternate present where all the classic Spider-Man stories took place in the past.
What's the difference from the audience's perspective?
Stories that take place in the future take place in our future. Spider-Girl always took place in the year it was published. It was a world where, at the beginning, Peter was bitten by the spider in the 70s and the 90s clone saga happened in the early 80s. Then the timeline kept sliding as it always does.
To quote the person you were responding to
>What's the difference from the audience's perspective?
What you're explaining just seems like word vomit. In all ways that matter it's just the future
A story can't take place in the future when it takes place in the present day. Dark Knight Returns doesn't take place in the future either, it's a 1986 where Batman grew old.
The creators stated it was 15-17 years after the end of the Clone Saga. Ben Reilly dying was still canon, Osborn manipulating everything with Scrier was canon, ASM 400 still happened, etc
That just sounds like future with extra steps.
>The same reason Marvel isn’t capitalizing on May Parker Spider-Girl
You'd think they would given all the girl power shit companies were pushing for years.
I hope DC does start using him, only now Terry is black. Absolutely nothing else changes, nothing. Just that he has black skin. Watch all you shitters suddenly turn on it after years of championing this comparison.
Dude, they already changed Terry to be half Asian
How?
His mom is a white redhead, his dad is an irish dude (I don't accept Waller's nonsense).
How does that make a half-asian dude?
They didn't. They were planning on making him half-Asian for the movie that never got made. Honestly, a half-Asian Terry would work fine and would fit in with the whole cyberpunk Akira aesthetic.
>Implying that a race swap would only stop at a race swap.
Kek. They'd give him a bunch of bullshit powers, turn him into a Gary Stu, and change his personality and ruin him, but you'd be out there shouting "you only dislike him now because he's black, /misc/cel!"
Did you read what I said? Nothing else would change and people stop their fake support of the character.
>fake support
Unlike the very real and organic support Miles receives, I assume?
What makes you think that WB leadership is even capable of making the most basic of good decisions.
>Either of the big two
>Doing anything smart ever
In hindsight, injecting someone with nano machine so that when he cummed it would be Bat baby batter that came out is pretty moronic
It's pretty contrived, even for the DCAU, but somehow it works. Maybe because it was just the one episode as a finale.
If you homosexuals keep treating these characters like they're the same, I'm gonna fricking kill you.
Basically they can't use Terry without either giving up the huge Batfamily they have now or aging them all up, since Terry takes place so far in the future. The alternative is having him time travel to the present for some reason.
Essentially he dosent exist in the right time frame for him to be a reoccurring character yet.
I never read them "giving up" on the Bat Family in Beyond. It was just them growing up and experiencing different stages to their relationship with Bruce as they did
And that different stage is almost irreversibly fricked. Dick, Babs, and Tim basically abandoned Bruce and let the mantle rot. with the extended batfamily it's harder to justify ALL of them leaving him alone.
They didn't "abandon" the mantle, they just grew up and became their own people. I don't know why you think that's such an unbelievable premise
Batman Beyond goes out of its way to specify that Bruce has fricked up his relationship with everyone, which is why he's so alone and no one has taken up the mantle, the future has to start bad so Terry has an excuse to show up and help out.
It's not unbelievable as a reaction, it does make Bruce seem despicable that he fricked up so badly. Even not taking that stupid Babs pregnancy comic as canon, he still did something that made Dick want to break off contact entirely, and he never checked up on Tim for decades. Compare it to post Knightfall where Dick took it upon himself to make sure the mantle stayed around and was upset Bruce didn't contact him first.
These two have nothing in common Terry isn't The Batman he's Batman Beyond Batman the 2nd, Miles is "mom says it's my turn on the Xbox" the character.
Batman Beyond has sucked shit every post-show attempt at integrating the character into the mainline universe. Turns out without the creative team behind the DCAU he's not that great of a concept.
>Turns out without the creative team behind the DCAU he's not that great of a concept.
The same one that ruined him by making him a product of Batsemen?
Yeah because they had jackasses like Jurgens writing for them, who either didn't care about the show or were shippergays
Terry is not black
WB have no fricking clue why even people like batman
i disagree, Batman is the ONLY character WB understands the appeal of
Beyond requires you to go by Timm's hateboner for Dick and has him completely abandon Bruce and Bruce betray his trust by starting something with Babs. Terry is a fine character but the circumstances for him to exist are completely fricked.
And all the attempts to bring him to comic canon are similarly moronic. Trying to replace Bruce as the guy in the chair with Damian feels stupid.
>Trying to replace Bruce as the guy in the chair with Damian feels stupid.
Because Damian exists in the DCU, then it has to be him to keep Terry's future farther away.
Which is dumb. Beyond is cool because Terry is the first Batman after Bruce, after decades of no Batman. It's not the same if it's like "Bruce retired/died..then Dick was Batman for a while, then Damian...oh and then Terry"
>Terry is a far more interesting character than Miles
obviously not
>obviously not, he is not black
ftfy
WB (Harmada and Safran) tried to promote African Batgirl instead of Terry for brownie twitter points.
Because the people in DC hates the concept of Terry and believe that Bruce should never stop being Batman for any reason.
Terry's future is exclusive to the DCAU and his own designated Earth-12, he's not main canon.
Also, doesn't he have his own series right now? Anyone reading Batman Beyond: Neo-Gothic?
Morrison brought Terry into post-crisis continuity where Damian was his handler instead of Bruce.
That's just yet another of many many possible futures, I don't really count any of those myself.
That’s the future that follows Batman of Bethlehem, right?
All except the part where Gotham is destroyed in an apocalypse, yes.
The real question is "How would you fix Terry Mcguiness?" Do you just make him an elseworlds "what if" character? Do you make him canon to the far off future? Do you try to cram him into the already bloated bat family? As much as i like Batman Beyond, it's a story that can only exist cuz a lotta shit goes wrong.
>Do you just make him an elseworlds "what if" character?
They've already done this, he's in Earth-12 and Futures End.
>"How would you fix Terry Mcguiness?"
What's broken?
Most people here say that everything after the original show sucked.
He's a future character, not a present character.
How had I never even considered Terry and Carrie teaming up before?
DC should capability more on Batwing IP.
He could be higher than Miles.
>Batwing
That's the name of the plane, they tried to get their own Miles equivalent with Jace but no one fricking cared.
Everything about BB is dated.
That's not a bad thing, every piece of media is inherently a product of their time, and I think it's cool that in the future they get to reflect a specific point in time.
Terry isn't black.