Why is Delta Force traditionally so underrepresented in Hollywood compared to Navy Seals?
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Why is Delta Force traditionally so underrepresented in Hollywood compared to Navy Seals?
Because delta force is a gayer name
75th Ranger Regiment
>7+5=12. 1+2=3. 3=triangle
Delta Force.
>delta means triangle
They're telling you who they work for.
>rangers
someone post the recruitment page. they also have a chinese flag on their unit badge thing lol
Cause they fought in china, took me one google
erm yes i know mr Black person brained. i didnt ask why they have it, i pointed out that rangers simp for chinks. thanks for um "confirming" my own statement back to me i guess lol
Having the flag on a patch because they fought there doesn’t mean they’re ‘simping’, zoomie.
moronic esl shitskin
>Part of the badge is to celebrate stomping the Chinese
>This is somehow simping for them
the big throbbing mind on this one
because change for the government is how they got their name in the most in-the-know ways. Look up "haliburton -pacers site:reddit.com/r/RBI"
nothing. not one result. cesspool.
why not ritualpost something funny?
Navy seals are fake.
Some say that one of the sealtards accidentally revealed that there was another force at the Osama raid. Big oopsie.
devgru did the king Black person raid which is the navy version of deltaforce but since they pretty much only recruit from seals since thats the only """elite""" combat force the navy has, they pretty much all seals too and sometimes just get called that by the media. devgru was also formed out of a single seal team so its essentially just the counter terrorism seal team. its not called devgru anymore either for some dumb reason
also for legal reasons when the us assassinates someone with military, they attach them to a cia "observer" so that its technically not a foreign military killing guys, its simple cia assets doing it
>also for legal reasons when the us assassinates someone with military, they attach them to a cia "observer" so that its technically not a foreign military killing guys, its simple cia assets doing it
When operating out in Middle East they become part of whatever nation's military that stand to gain from the operation. Every time they kill some rebel leader in Iraq or Yemen or whatever it's done by a Saudi or Kuwait major
Devgru is literally just one of various cycling names for seal team 6. You dont know anything
t. friend is literally on devgru/6
its really annoying how tryhards like you always have to show up and make a moronic ass of yourself dropping "knowledge"
Its ironic you made this post about me when im correct and you know nothing
you didnt correct anything you brain dead fricking Black person thats what im pointing out. youre a brainless tryhard trying to get e-cred repeating some youtube comment you read lol
Bullshit larp, you friend works at the cheetos factory
And we’ve reached the part of the conversation where two fat morons who have never served a day in their life yell and argue at each other about shit they managed to read about on various forums where other fat morons yell and and argue about shit they know nothing about.
>make plain as day comment
>anon pretends not to understand for e-cred
>hey idiot stop being stupid
>I AM VERY SMART U R DOTH DUMB HAHAHA
go have a nice day moron
Me also being dumb doesn’t make you smart my friend. Enjoy this (You) it’s the only one you’re getting.
The original comment was wrong, devgru is not formed “mostly out of seals.” It is all seals, because devgru is just seal team 6. My friend is literally on devgru. They were called damnec or however you spell it for the past couple of years. They recently switched the moniker again
Im right, youre wrong, and i dont care what you think :^)
devgru is not literally seal team 6. st6 existed in the 80s but was disbanded because of some bad pr and replaced with devgru. there is literally no such thing as seal team six. you dont get sent to seal team 6. there is no seal team 6. youre a moronic Black person and so is your """friend""" if he even exists, you most likely dont understand what hes saying though. its got a nickname of st6 because of its history but its ~literally~ not. you can look at orders to be attached to devgru/their current name. not seal team 6 which doesnt exist. the navy does have other combat jobs youre just Black person moronic and dont know that. im sure a swicc guy or two have wound up in devgru.
tl;dr youre a Black person moronic talking about shit you dont understand with the authority and confidence that would make a redditor blush
swcc*
Literally no one gives a frick which special unit team shot Bin Laden.
Americans love watching gay people.
Probably because everything they do is secret. There's barely any available info on their operations.
10/10 b8
Because Delta guys can't write books about their clandestine operations or possess the long history of promoting shit like Gorilla Cum Test Booster 3000 on Joe Rogan.
because they're traditionally shit
The government knows that Navy Seals are physically incapable of shutting the frick up so they get sent on the missions that can be publicly outed in a shitty book a few years later without causing any major scandals
Meanwhile Delta Force are the guys who don't exist doing things that didn't happen at places where they shouldn't be to people who aren't there. Hard to write a book about that.
in my headcanon deniro was delta force in ronin
Based on the year Ronin came out in and assuming his character was the same age as him, my assumption was MACVSOG -> CIA SAD
>Meanwhile Delta Force are the guys who don't exist doing things that didn't happen at places where they shouldn't be to people who aren't there.
There are other people who pull off the dirtiest ops, those are the real glowies, the ones you have never even heard of. Alright I have to go now.
Wow anon you sound really cool and mysterious. Please tell us more
They made a movie about me recently....
I won't tell you which one...
...but I'll give you a...hint.....
I'm a killer (twisted fricking psychopath)
Nta, but in the US they're called SAC/SOG.
Basically the CIAs own paramilitary arm that they use to conduct the most sensitive operations. And they get to pick the best people from delta force and every other special operations unit. It's as elite as it gets, at least that the public is aware of
Real like isn't like some anime with crazy powerlevels. Soldiers can only get so good at a particular task, after that the only diference is what resources are avaliable to them. All units talked about itt could be interchangeable with just some slight training
finally a smart anon. i actually imagine that at really high levels the "skill" even decreases a little because they have to take other characteristics into account. i mean you talk about hating Black folk (ie a sane person) and youll get shitcanned. germany was gutting its entire special forces because of it
maybe what us specops get BTOFd so often by hardcore dudes in robes and flipflops
>what
why*
At the highest levels skills are secondary, The psych tests are not to weed out the loonies, they're carried to out to know which people can be kept on the payroll in the down low and only called to pull off the dirtiest shit
kek it's funny that this is what most people assume and its true because it's the simplest way
and it's not just the US that does this btw
every nation with special operations does it this way or at least hire the same glowies
Tell us about Office of Global Access
Many of the super classified ops are not done by currently serving military but rather by ex special forces guys that are hired as mercenaries
>guy working on isolated farm gets phone call, wipes the sweat from his brow and walks inside from the field to answer
>"Hello?"
>"I'm putting together a team"
You jest but this does happen, especially in the middle east/africa/asia/eastern europe. Not so much in first world nations (they hire third/second worlders often though). And it’s not really guys that leave to go into civilian life like in the movies, but rather guys that are so screwed up they can’f really function outside of the military.
Contractors. USA does not hire merc's.
and russia doesn't invade countries they conduct special operations
This , if you want zero accountability you send in the CIA .
Contractors are little more than slightly more legitimate mercenaries
This. SEALS are for show. Delta and guys like Pararescue and to some extent Green Berets are quiet professionals that actually do shit that you cant talk about.
And those are just the ones we know of. I know there are tons of black bag ops that do all kinds of shady shit.
You know there are tons of books about PJs and Green Berets right?
Not nearly as much. Everyone knows who the SEALS are, I doubt the average person knows what a PJ is
Also because of the rampant drug use and crime in delta.
I find they always appear in smaller, more kino roles where they're not the centre of attention.
They are great in Sicario and 13 hours.
SAS never seem to get good roles in operator kino.
Wait I thought the dudes in Sicario were CIA
aye.
Bane?
Brolin and the guy in specs are.
Specs guy tells Brolin he's pulled a team for him when they go into Mexico in the convoy. In the pre-convoy meeting the guy even gets Delta to identify themselves.
Then it's the Delta team in the motel and tunnels later.
They seemed very rude to the police folks though. Didn't like that
pros hates amateurs
rightfully so
amateurs gets you shot in the back
t. have a bullet scar in the back
>Scar on the back
Lmao. Dishonabru. have a nice day.
SAS is deployed for counter terrorism and hostage rescue police work despite being a part of the British Army. Very infrequent ops.
Makes you wonder how shit they really are since most terrorists are usually moronic glowie assets.
SAS were heavily used during the opening of the 2003 Iraq war tho?
Also during the destruction of the ISIS caliphate. US SF were also heavily involved.
SAS are also active in Ukraine.
>SAS gays have been pumping out books and movies c
they rotate a squadron for that.
>SAS never seem to get good roles in operator kino.
Strike Back has Stonebridge, who is ex-SAS working for Six.
SAS is more prevalent in video games than seals are tbf.
some of the best SF books are about SAS
but after andy mcnab and shit the british government put the kibosh on any of them publishing anything
there was a movie about SAS guys storming a hostage situation but I can't remember the name of it. Pretty kino
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Dares_Wins_(film)
This one, perhaps. There are a couple of them, based on the Iranian Embassy siege back in the day, in the UK. Long story short, a bunch of insurgents took control of it and with hostages, the British government decided "no thank you" and after a few days and attempts to negotiate they sent in the SAS, who were caught on live TV from the news in the process. It was the first real sign that the SAS still existed, and because it was broadcast to millions during a bank holiday everybody suddenly knew about them.
kek you realise that "Andy McNab" (Steven Billy Mitchell) made this shit up?
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/JJ2XZwy1b9707Is8t2JzLQ/
can someone explain?
>tfw some seething delta operator keeps making the same shitpost on a celebrity waifu forum
Having seen some interviews with former deltas I get the feeling they're not totally right in the head. I mean they only feel alive when they're taking fire at night while rappelling down some building in order to defuse a bomb and free hostages and then escape in some hotwired Soviet truck. Imagine a guy like that trying to have a family or watching the game on a Saturday. They must be bored out of their minds
damn near to a former operator, when I see them talk on a podcast their stories are all almost identiacal.
>small town upbring.
>got in fights and broke laws and did drugs
>realized they were a loser
>joined the military and went to war and went SF
>go on crazy missions and get dedicated to the brotherhood
>cheat on their wives get divorced and develop drug problems while still in the service
>leave military in discgrace
>do iowaska and cry
>go on podcast to talk about their lives
Rudy Reyez from Generation Kill talked about how he put a loaded gun in his mouth and only at the last moment decided to call his brother to come over and take away all his weapons
(He's a recon marine, not delta but still)
that's wild considering his been riding the fame of his role in Generation Kill for 20 years with seemingly pretty good results.
I figure being a life sized GI joe action figure gets old after a while. besides I bet you get lowkey fricked with all the time by guys who want to prove themselves.
He had a very fricked-up life before the Corps, foster homes, poverty, was sickly, etc. I suspect any mental health issues probably derive more from that.
I have an old Army buddy that was the most cheerful fun guy I ever met. He was from a great family and lived a good childhood. He went SF after we got stationed in different places. I met up with him 20 years later and he was a totally different guy. When I walked in the empty restaurant he was sitting in the very back corner next to an exit door with his back to the wall so he could see the whole restaurant. The laughter and love he shared so freely before was totally gone. he'd become a contrarian and regretted all his military service even though he's a legit war hero who's met 2 presidents. he'll probably be depicted in a war movie eventually. war's a hell of a thing.
>seen the absolute worst of humanity
>been shot at
>most likely killed people with his fricking hands (or at least close enough to)
>probably lost at least half a dozen close friends over the years
Trauma that lasted for three seconds can change your life forever. Now make it happen for over a decade.
Most combat veterans I met are jaded to varying degrees. Some are disillusioned as frick.
the special forces community is pretty small
most I know live outside cities
only ones I know that's still "part of society" are working as trainers & consultants for arms manufacturers, etc and even those guys mostly have their permanent homes outside of cities
you tend to resent civilians for squandering what you fought for but can't really blame them entirely so you just blame yourself for falling for the propaganda
you end up hating society & the government but still feel absolute loyalty towards the guys still in the grinder
He were so forcefully redpilled, that doesn't even care to be based.
So basically like that guy in the first season of ‘24’, who’s siting in the dive bar with a computer who gets called by Jack Bauer before getting garroted ?
Also their second deployment in Iraq was a lot tougher than the invasion. Lost a lot of men in the insurgency.
Oh, okay, so conventional troop and nothing at all like SOF, gotcha.
Recon Marines are something like the top 0.01% of marines, they're extremely far from "conventional troops"
what's difference between recon and marsoc?
It's mostly an organizational difference, who they report to, etc. They have similar duties. I think a lot of marsoc guys are former force recon
recon does sneaky breeki stuff to help the conventional marines, marsoc was made so that they could be represented in socom with all the other branches
the Recon Marines depicted in GK were proto-MARSOC, you fricking morons
There's a big difference between Force Recon and Recon Battalion. MARSOC came from Force Recon. The guys in Generation Kill were Recon Battalion.
What is the practical difference?
Force operates in much smaller teams
It's been a while since I've read up on it so I'll give you the main points I remember. Recon Battalion works for the Infantry Division. They scout 10 miles ahead to make sure it's possible for everyone else to move forward. Force Recon works for the greater Marine Corps. They are more autonomous, given riskier missions, they also scout further than 10 miles.
This is stuff I read over a decade ago. A lot has changed so what I'm saying is probably outdated.
This was my understanding of it too.Recon Batallion are literally the tip of the spear, meanwhile Force Recon are like the arrow fired into the night and USMC SOF equivalent
I forgot to add that anyone can join Recon Battalion right away. To join Force Recon, you have to have been in Recon Battalion for a couple of years.
Marsoc does the same thing green berets do. They literally were both on the commando mission in Afghanistan and would alternate between that and vso. I was in force plt in 2010 and we would have 30 of us go out into the desert outside of the regular infantry ao, establish a patrol base and watch for dudes driving in with guns and stuff. Sometimes we would engage them but we really just did recon.
what is it about the armed services that makes you have a nice day after you leave?
the fricked up shit you saw?
the want/need to be back there instead of the normal civilian world?
what?
>lots of people who join up have some type of abuse in their background
>losing your sense of "purpose" when you get out if you don't move on with your life
Put both together and it's a recipe for disaster
Reyez in particular was fricked up before he even joined. But in general yes, you see how completely worthless human lives are, you're forced to kill people not because they're necessarily bad but because some suit in Washington decided so, etc. Everyone thinks they're tough but it takes a mental toll
The greatest shame an American soldier can face is retiring, having never died in battle for Israel.
They all end up feeling isolated from the rest of society because they just cant relate to other people. Its not just the horror you might see, but the extreme bullshit, hypocrisy and downright corruption you often see and deal with and can do nothing about. It often makes them jaded and everything else just seem so pointless.
Kek I remember the Vice doc in Afghanistan where a mutt Major was forced to work alongside a pedo police chief who openly bragged about raping boys and there was nothing he could do about it.
This is what winning looks like
I think that was the title
>They all end up feeling isolated from the rest of society because they just cant relate to other people.
I don't remember where I heard this from, but a veteran gets a office job and they have a team building event where they have to share something about themselves. One lady says she likes a football team, some guy says he saw a movie that weekend, the veteran says he killed a man. They stopped doing team building after that.
>the extreme bullshit, hypocrisy and downright corruption you often see and deal with and can do nothing about
I experienced that in my first job out of college and didn't act like a giant suicidal pussy about it, I did my job and earned some income then moved on. Why is that so hard for "durr le toughest men to ever live"?
Did your first job out of college involve killing people?
>muh killing
>I seen some shit maaaannnn, out there... there were no rules... it's clear who the enemy was maaannn... out here, you don't know who's gonna stab you in the back
I'm just saying, if they have the IQ to work in special ops, why can't they adapt to a new environment and find ways to cope with the "boredom" of civilian life? It's just weird
Like that other anon said. Did your job involve killing people? Seeing people blown apart? Witnessing or even causing civilian deaths? Being in close contact with foreigners raping and murdering people, even children, and being able to do nothing about it because theyre an informant and you have to respect their "culture"? Seeing corruption in our own government and military with huge implications that you just cant do anything about?
When vets hear you complain about shit you think is bad they want to roll their eyes out of their fricking head
>When vets hear you complain about shit you think is bad they want to roll their eyes out of their fricking head
And I don't want to hear about them feeling sad about killing some goatfrickers (who probably deserved it) in some shithole at work when it's what they signed up for. Just shut up and print the copies or send the email whatever
I think it's more seeing your friends getting killed and being in high stress situations for weeks/months at a time that fricks them up.
sometimes we lose guys
sometimes the wife leaves a dude and he blows his forehead off with a shotgun before a convoy and you have to help the medic put his body on a stretcher, and then into a body bag, before it's zipped up another medic asked the first if he checked for a pulse
He was still alive. He died like 30 minutes later but still....
we patrolled after that, like took a 20 minute break and then went and patrolled.
how the frick am I supposed to relate to a college kid sad that they haven't been home in two weeks?
Maybe you should check your privilege.
Just kidding, That really fricking sucks. Sorry that happened to you.
>how the frick am I supposed to relate to a college kid sad that they haven't been home in two weeks?
Or maybe you should realise no one really gives a frick that you signed up to kill shitskins for israelites and pedophiles and you are not special, in fact you are moronic
How about you relate your greymatter to a bullet like a good little Goy
I was poor and wanted to go to college.
>that story
Sounds like shit my nurse mom would repeat from the hospital that she would describe in vivid detail to me on the way home before yelling at me or beating my ass. Sorry that happened to you!
In the military they have purpose and comradery. When they leave it's like they lost a family. In combat they experience the highest highs and the lowest lows. There's nothing like it.
legit could be their dopamine receptors getting fried. imagine operating for years and then coming home to the banality of civilian life
I wasn't even a larperator, but the camaraderie and massive drinking culture really did a number on me and a close friend of mine. These, plus losing that sense of purpose that you're contributing in some way to a greater purpose (globohomosexual stuff aside) are what I figure get most support guys that separate. Guys that see combat get all of that and more
Realizing that following orders is the only thing you'll ever be good at and when you have to make your way through society of your own volition you will fail.
i was actually bad at following orders out of the military.
Because you were being commanded by someone who didn't go through basic training so you think you're better than them because you climbed an obstacle course when you were 18.
i was ordered by the president which is the same person in charge of the military
Then you weren't out of the military.
>anon trying to shit on military is an 80 iq moron
love to see it. for some reason the only people worse than military gays are military haters. its something about them being jealous (even though there is no reason to be) and it just makes them go fricking crazy and foam at the mouth spouting moronic nonsense
You're the low IQ moron trying to use a very recent and very unusual social phenomenon to describe your whole mentality which was already confirmed when you decided to work for the government. Whether the military or something else, you signed up for a guaranteed paycheck for which you simply had to complete a training course. No need to be creative, no need to solve problems without your supervisors knowledge, no need to compete with anyone, just don't frick up and cruise to a pension.
Soldiers have to compete with other men and the loser dies or ends up maimed. What you're describing only applies to peace time.
>No need to be creative, no need to solve problems without your supervisors knowledge, no need to compete with anyone, just don't frick up and cruise to a pension.
There absolutely are those dudes in the military, hell I'd say it's most of them that stay in. But yes you actually do have to do all of those things(solve problems without direct oversight, answer for failures, and compete with your peers. Once I had to do something called direction finding(finding the enemy via radio signals that they're producing). All of the equipment went down because it was old as frick and we were in the middle of a humid jungle. I had my best antenna guy make a highly, highly directional antenna and attached it to one of the pieces of equipment that could at least tell me signal strength and managed to DF the enemy using that. Was pretty accurate too.
>No need to be creative, no need to solve problems without your supervisors knowledge, no need to compete with anyone, just don't frick up and cruise to a pension.
I Worked in aircraft maintenance on F-16's where you literally had to solve problems without your supervisor, problems that even required thinking outside the box. The military is competitive it's just there is no financial incentive (one of the reasons why I left). As for your 20 and a pension, lol you'll look 40 years older and have fricked knees and back and probably die of cancer.
SIR YES SIR OBEY israelite ORDERS WITHOUT QUESTION SIR
I heard they're walking back their covid orders because they're struggling to get anybody to join in the first place.
They are below replacement level yes. Not by a small amount either, by 25% and rising steadily as of last year.
Like what
said
There's no reason to join. If you took a guy from OSHA, a nurse, a fitness trainer and go them to watch what daily life is like, they'd all say that the military is a death sentence for your health.
It's a fricking joke that they're focused on being more inclusive to trannies and women when their main body of recruits are all suicidal and injured from daily tasks. They need to focus on unfricking their shit and stop burning guys out.
There's so many arms contracts that make no sense and only add to the burden on their backs to the point that most guys develop spoke issues from carrying too much worthless fricking shit that some c**t wanted to buy based on commission.
No one should join.
It's TBI's from explosives and being exposed to toxic chemicals. The alienation and traumatic life experiences don't help but CTE will be the real cause.
>but CTE will be the real cause
Yeah just like boxers and football players.
Sebastian Junger did a thesis on it with a book called tribe. Since PTSD rates outstrip actual combat experience. Some of that is milking the system (and as much as I am envious good for them, the system milks their youth and health), but it's also you go from an institution which even with its bullshit homosexualry is still full of esprit de corps to the utter atomized frick-you-I-got-mine culture. Unless you go ferreting it out we don't have much in the way of the camaraderie that some anons mention in their reply. See
Also interviewed some Sarajevo chick who lost a leg during the siege who admitted shamefully that she and others sometimes miss the war. Yeah, they got food and money now and it's peaceful but there was a sense of purpose and camaraderie back then. And how suicides dropped in NYC after 9-11.
tl;dr you have a sense of purpose and shared fraternal camaraderie of putting up with bullshit together (like an extension of grade school friends), then get jettisoned into the consoomer sink-or-swim nobody cares about you in the least Americana.
And imagine doing that military shit then going to an office and dealing with some power-tripping discord moderator IRL like
this anon had to deal with. Although I suppose this might be military rather than private.
>Since PTSD rates outstrip actual combat experience
You don't need to see combat to get trauma. The army fricks your ass on a daily basis more than combat ever could. It's just a big dumb sweaty prison for apes in uniform.
Whatever it is, is something that's recent, because this didn't happen before.
There are ancient reports of retired soldiers who always had a dead look in their face, or dreamed of the people they killed. It just wasn't reported, or dismissed as weakness. It only took constant bombardment to make people realize that soldiers might snap from all the stress.
I'll give you a different perspective.
>you enlist
>You got through basic
>24/7 working out and training
>Weekends?
>Up to the last minute they'll wait for you be excited to see your senpai/gf/ friends
>then pull some bullshit about someone messing up so everyone has to stay and do extra work on your weekend
>You do literally nothing for the first few years besides stand around, clean toilets and go camping getting yelled at by a moron with other morons
>You don't get to go home and build a hobby or identity
>You never get to go on vacation
>You're always injured, recovering from an injury or expecting a debilitating injury because you see every guy you work with drop life flies from easily avoidable work place accidents because bureaucracy os so stiff things only change 10 years after said incident
>You're moved against your will so you can't build roots
>only people you can meet are other army guys
>There's more drama than you can imagine
Now leave all that after usually a decade and it's like a piece of your identity is ripped away. Nothing more dangerous than boredom.
Basically this, you expect to enlist to go murder brown people for fun, but its pretty much like boy scouts minus any shred of fun or learning. An adult camp with the most moronic, gay bunch of criminals and rednecks you'll ever meet. And you can't bail for at least 4 years, so suicide seems like the only way out 99% of the time. Also, no chicks and prison food
>sign up to defend country
>your entire upbringing is filled with people honoring soldiers for their sacrifice
>compare yourself to WW2 soldiers fighting against capable and evil people
>get deployed to some backwater desert or jungle
>all you're fighting is farmers with shit equipment
>realize they're fighting invaders, you're fighting for company profits and a country founded by people subverting every country you and your ancestors hail from
>come home
>everyone thinks your sacrifice was meaningless and a disgrace to the country
What a mystery
guilt about shooting women and kids to make rich people richer while you get minimum wage and all your friends got blown up kinda like when directors want to do this big stunt in their movie and get the stuntpersons killed
All these answers make me wish I lived when we were still had the hunter/gatherer society as God intended. Go hunting with the boys come home frick your wife, repeat.
Your brain can't handle being on life-threatening alert/guard 24/7
Any human who tells a story of how close they got to taking their own life is a genuinely piece of shit person that is seeking pity from people
fruity rudy?
Yeah him. He's just as outwardly fruity IRL except he bangs teenage b***hes on the regular
Fruity Rudy, the one and same, from Call of Duty and some TV show nobody ever watched called Generation Gay
Are you serious? I met him in 2008 or so. Even got a pic with him (not posting it).
Yes, it's here but I don't know when exactly he said it
It's also that special kind of men who spill the beans and cannot shut up about their military background, I reckon.
Delta is not that badass, operation eagle claw was a failure. If they seemed to be not right in the head it's pribably because they literally have CTE from taking explosive Shockwaves to the head, not because they're stone cold killers.
They are literally high performing serial killers. Picture yourself as their commanding officer in a room full of dudes who have 20-30 kills to their name.
Because the are the gun hand of the CIA and they don't want you talking about what they do.
See Central America 1970-2000
Consider that almost no one even has heard of Force Recon. They did shit like get dropped into the desert and get tasked with assassinating political figures back in the late 80s and early 90s. No clue what they do now.
Didn't they get kicked out of afghanistan for being huge frickups?
Allegedly killing some civilians. But who knows man. Could have been "kicked for being frickups" as a way to cover up random shit.
They were framed and thrown under the bus the later got cleared of all alleged crimes a few years later..
my uncle was in 3rd Force in Vietnam, I went with him to a reunion one time
nothing secret about it, don't know where your getting this from
because these dudes don't want the limelight. They'd rather do their job in secrets, go home, and jack off troony porn
>SAS/SBS
>Delta/SEALS
>SOG, etc
who mogs who?
Sbs wins all sas a close second
They train all the other world special forces
Britcope
They train people because they have nothing better to do
You never hear about what they do as its not glorified like the US do.
They get on with the job and thats it, no medals,no tv shows etc. Only really a few over the years have done books,tv etc.
SAS gays have been pumping out books and movies constantly since the 1980's, just as bad as the SEALs. Even worse their books suck because, due to having a domestic billet, their interview/publishing vetting is hyper restrictive.
>american reading comprehension
>drawing a distinction between SAS and SBS
American detected.
Mossad mogs both
>most of their work is against 85 iq sandpeople
>struggles with locating harmless 90 year old germans in South America
>let Hamas rape 500 khazar bawds
They are pretty good at false flags.
SAS and SBS, though they do get bonus points for being the prototype that all other special forces based themselves on. The Australian SAS is up there as well.
That's just SAD.
Australian SASR mogs everyone.
>Why is Delta Force traditionally so underrepresented in Hollywood compared to Navy Seals?
maybe because 99.9% of delta force objectives are
>guard these helicopters while the real operators go and shoot the bad guy
Who the frick are the real operators then. I feel like you're talking out of your ass, all sf guys talk about delta being the peak performance unit
>Who the frick are the real operators then
navy seals
If you're a top 1% navy seal and you perform consistently for years they MIGHT allow you to try out for delta
I could 1v1 a delta navy seal ez
Even if by "1v1" you meant being their bottom in the bedroom that still wouldn't be true
Bunch of glory hounds are known more for their catastrophic failures than for their successes.
how often do you offer your anus to beefy seals?
what is wrong with you?
doubt it. every declassified noteworthy special operation goes something like
>seal team was scrambled immediately
>in addition, participating units under jsoc icluded the 160th special operations aviation regimen and detachment of delta force which provided assistance
then you read about it and it turns out delta cucks are waiting by the choppers to prevent possible theft
That might be statistical bias because they don't want to declassify more revealing delta operations
Literally who?
No one respects them.
>DJ qualls
rip king
>We want to make a cheap movie to cash in on the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, get them in here
>sir Jeff Foxworthy and Ron White are too successful and rich to want anything the frick to do with us
>then get me their cheaper less funny equivalent
>he's already in the studio sir
You don't see most Delta guys because they're busy 90% of the time running ops against the Neo-Kirchenkampf militias down in Agartha.
I had a geology lecture with a former delta force guy. The professor would take us on field trips to look at rocks. I remember one hike on snow shoes, in the time it took me to reach the bottom of the mountain from the top he made it down, all the way back up to help somebody, and back down again.
Pallas cats look so fricking dumb
no u
but have the seals gotten their own 2000s parody movie? i didnt think so
frick
1st SFOD-D is kind of hard to depict since they do the most black ops kind of shit so really nobody knows exactly what they do, nobody knows exactly who they are. Unlike regular personnel they do not have to abide by godfather's grooming standard so they can rock a full beard. They also don't have any badges, so they cannot be identified as Delta.
There are two ways to make a show or movie about Delta. One is some stupid shit like The Unit that's mostly just housewife drama, or it might be closer to what Delta actually do but people find it unconvincing, not plausible. So what can you really do? The unit is the most secretive of units in the US armed forces, I'm pretty sure the US military doesn't want people to enlist just to make it to delta, because all of the recruitment is from green berets or rangers and even from those guys who are tough as nails the majority can't make it through.
Navy seals are easier to depict since they are in larger numbers and they don't operate missions that are as covert as the Delta operations are. Navy seals go in and out before nobody notices. Delta doesn't have to keep the brass informed, they don't have RoE or any SOP. They exist basically as ghosts. All of them are trained to be expects at every aspect of their team, so all of them are medics, all of them are sharpshooters, general operators, engineers, you name it. No roles, if a medic gets shot, all of the rest of them are medics, and so forth. This is why delta is arguably the most deadliest force in any armed forces of any country.
>Delta doesn't have to keep the brass informed, they don't have RoE or any SOP.
Black person every goddamn unit in the military still has some variety of RoE and SOPs, even the SOG boys and yes every Delta's.
>SOG boys
I heard once or twice about this guys, mostly vietnam stuff.
I was referring to the CIA paramilitary glowBlack folk, not just MACV-SOG from Vietnam. The former change their nomenclature periodically and I might be using an old one.
ok
I didn't understand half of what you said but I trust you
Sorry, the CIA has it's own guys that do cool guy operator shit, and that group of guys has been called different things over time. Special Activities Division(SAD), Special Operations Group(SOG), and a few others I can't recall. They're almost always former military operators pulled from the SEALs, Delta, Force Recon(probably pulling more from MARSOC now), etc.
Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group(MACV-SOG) was a multi-branch organization(meaning it too pulled from all the special dudes from the different branches) specifically for Vietnam, doing special operations shit in Vietnam. That was probably the SOG you read about doing stuff in Vietnam.
It's SAC now, at least that is what the wiki says.
Jeez get their wiener out of your mouth homosexual. I could take out 5 of those meathead rednecks with my bare hands. I AM THE ALPHA HERE! I'M THE ONE WHO RUNS THIS SHIT!
The worst kind of glowies are the vets who go on Wired and Insider to "rate" movie and tv scenes
The only one I ever liked was that black former ranger who did sniper shit. He seemed like an alright guy and I liked how he raved over that one enemy at the gates scene and said he would have shot in the same order.
The rest were insufferable.
Why is an Australian obsessed with Delta Force is the better question?
Navy seals are the unofficial propaganda unit of special forces.
Theyre the glory hogs and the others prefer to keep a low profile
Because Army Special Forces are actual operators who get the job done and don't need Hollywood rooty tooty shooty flicks to hype them up.
Only time I ever heard about delta force is when they got KiA.
You're not supposed to hear about them at all
>ITT
>OPERATOR AS FRICK
We operating bros?
No, I did SIGINT but worked with operators. Specifically ODA and MARSOC. I prefer the former over the latter, but that's because they brought all the dumb Marine Corps shit with them... Which I was trying to get away from, since I was also in the Marine Corps and the guy in charge of all my dudes in the middle of a jungle in a SEA country. It was fun making fun of Radio Recon with the MARSOC commander though.
>always wanted to be in the military
>joined Army in 2008
>nothing special about me, but I'm always volunteering for shit
>turns out I'm really good at shooting
>not just rifles and pistols, but LMG and anti-armor, as well
>not SF by a long shot, but put in platoon meant for escorts and protection of high value personnel etc
>going to Afghanistan
>minding my own business when a truck hauling a massive boat loses control and I get more or less squished between that boat and a wall
>it's not too bad at first, I'm extremely lucky when it comes to a few broken bones, no concussion, no internal bleeding etc
>but no Afghanistan
>no Army ever
>still have nerve damage on most of the right side of my body, +neck, +hips
>can fire weapons, but only if pistol-grip
>now all I have is a broken body, dead-end jobs and a divorce as my resumé, and I didn't even get it from doing actual shit
No, I'm not operating, bro.
Mean for
shooting is pretty easy as long as you try or practice at all which no normies do but sf actually do practice. i was top shooter in every gun shoot i ever did with pistol and rifle. it didnt matter for anything
>it didnt matter for anything
True. I have no idea how I am now, either. Probably terrible. Haven't shot anything for at least 8 years.
My brother was fast tracked to Sargeant but a week before that he was sent on training and some dipshit leader decided they needed to do a dipshit method of climbing a fence that involves stepping on a guys back. My brother ends up having his disc displaced and has chronic back pain for life. Worse of all they tried to gaslight him from getting a payout.
He's had it rough but he got released and now teaches music in our hometown. Stay strong man, you'll pull through.
>anon what was iraq like?
Those ZOGbots got their asses handed to them in Gaza.
Navy Seals are a PR/propoganda organization with frauds like Chris Kyle
Delta Force are real operators who most of their work is secret
SEALS are the public face if American Spec Ops. It's why they are famous. They are supposed to be. Delta is all off book it never happened. They put Delta in movies they're just never called it by name. In movies if the spec ops is rocking a beard they're Delta.
Spill the fricking beans you lurking SOF gays. Tell us all about the paranormal divisions that "don't exist"
that's DOD shit
they don't let anyone outside their inner circles anywhere near their shit
The military is part of the DOD you raging tard...
>Grandad about to get drafted in '69
>Joins the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam
>Gets trained as a radio operator and sent to Vietnam anyways patrolling the coasts
>Near the end of his tour
>Has a good record and all the officers like him
>Commander calls him and asks him if he wants a vacation
>Granddad thinks its a joke
>Commander tells him they have a special assignment were two radio operators camp out on some god forsaken stretch of beach right below North Vietnam and "assist" an unidentified military asset
>Commander literally could not actually tell him the details, just that he and a buddy would be detached for a week to monitor a radio frequency on the beach and relay it if needed
>Granddad and buddy wait around a few days on the beach
>Even manage to get cheap Vietnamese beer and a cooler from a South Viet village nearby
>Finally in the middle of the night a single rubber boat pulls in near their little camp
>Some Americans in unmarked cammies and blue jeans get out
>Guys have no patches, no identifying marks, no tags, no american equipment
>Even their cammies are a pattern they've never seen and clearly not American
>Guys give Granddad the password and correct call sign
>Granddad asks them who they are exactly/what they do
>Glowies just laugh and say they were never here and don't exist
>Also they are all carrying some weapons Granddad has never seen, before or since, and he's spent years trying to figure out what the frick they were
>Glowies give granddad the frequency and callsign they will use
>Get back in their boat and ride off toward North Vietnam
>Granddad and buddy wait around for another week monitoring the radio
>Radio fricking silence
>Finally get recalled by their actual commander
>Never find out who the glowies are, what they were doing, or what happened to them
I always wondered who those dudes were. I thought they might be MACV SOG or SEALS but Granddad said they didn't like either, and he worked with both.
Spooky
>Be Amurica
>Unlimited defense budget
>Navy has its own Air Force, infantry unit and SEAL
>Air Force has its own navy and infantry unit
>Marines have its own Navy, Air Force, infantry, recon and MARSOC
>Army has all above, plus Rangers, Green Berets and Delta
>Coast Guard even has its own aerial detachment and infantry unit
Why the frick do yanks put a hat on hat? Before you give me all that usual guff, GB, SEAL, MARSOC, 1ST SPD, CIA SAD literally all train in the same thing, just with slight variations. They do all the same thing. Why the frick does the Navy need a Air Force as well?
the more compartmentalized the government
the easier it is to steal tax payers money
No wonder your country is broke, how many juiced up rednecks does it take to kill one dude living in a cave?
> Why the frick does the Navy need an Air Force as well?
Because it wouldn’t make sense having conflicting chains of command, logistics, and budgets on one fricking boat, moron.
Planes are the most powerful naval weapon, and it would be moronic to have an airforce general control all the planes on a carrier.
There's zero incentive for the Federal Government to clean house and consolidate.
CIA is back to being SOG (special operations group) again.
>Navy has its own infantry unit
>Coast Guard even has its own infantry unit
who?
Coast Guard have the Cub Scouts.
>be any other country
>BTFO by America
>NOOOOOOO WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU STUPID AMERICA
>a bunch of highly armed kitted up to the teeth soldiers enters a foreign country to kill some terrorist
>anyone with a brain knows theyre american
Do Americans really think they're that secretive?
Because it's a lot easier to get cooperation from the Navy that it is from the rest of JSOC.
Can someone explain the difference between Navy SEALS, Delta Force and Green Berets?
>SEALs fight on water, air and land but most in the desert
>DELTA fight on water, air and land but mostly in urban landscapes
>GB fight on water, air and land but mostly poorly attempt to teach combat tactics to non English speaking foreign people (who use said tactics on us)
>MARSOC fight on water, air and land but mostly blow up shit in Malaysia for some reason
>Rangers fight on water, air and land but in huge numbers, like the regulars
>CIA SAD fight on water, air and land but also have comfy office jobs too
Navy SEALs are the special forces for the US Navy. Green Berets are the special forces for the US Army.
Delta Force is a smaller, more specialized group within the US Army recruited from Green Berets and other special forces within Army. So basically more elite than Green Berets. The Seals have a similar group within their ranks (Seal Team 6 or DEVGRU).
I think someone explained it like this
Navy seals kick down doors
Green berets go deep behind enemy lines, blow up bridges and factories and sabotage their shit then gtfo
>enemy lines
Just how old are you? Do you still have your draft card?
Woah easy there Charlie, don't frag me out!
I thought Green Berets mostly go to countries to train militia and insurgencies to start shit up and revolt against their own government?
That's their specialty, but they do other things. Just like SEAL specialty is underwater demolition, but they do other things too.
What do Rangers do?
special infantry like first recon
Anon, nobody besides armylarpers sees or cares about any differences. The whole world just thinks 'that's an army guy' and keeps seeing the movie.
Maybe the Deltas should ask for budget for their own propaganda films, and pay some meathead actor to parrot how awesome they are.
We need a centraspike movie
It's the drone operators that are the real hero's.
I have little respect for modern military spec ops. Killing desert pops in third world countries may be hard, but it doesn't make you cool. Go kill other whites and see what happens.
It's more secretive than devgru.
What questions yall have?
>t.GWOT operator that specialized in gorilla warfare
That's impressive anon, I didn't know the US army still had segregated units
Biggest reason is the fact that they are still not officially aknowledged by the DoD. Oftentimes when military-themed films reach out for military cooperation, mentioning Delta by name is taboo. Black Hawk down was the big exception because it was a very public failure.
When a studio sends a script to a DoD rep to approve, any mention of Delta will politely be asked to change the name to a more generic "special forces" or risk not getting any cooperation and the access to hardware, troops, etc that would entail.
That's why you get movies like Chuck Norris's Delta Force where the hardware was all supplied by the israelis as the American Military wanted nothing to do with it.
You mean except for Michael Bay movies?
You can always tell it’s Delta by the bushy beards and backwards caps.
Navy Seals = James Bond
Delta Force = [redacted]
Because they go around and pay drug dealers and loan sharks to feed them information and then payroll and arm local gangs to fight the legitimate government of whatever country they're attacking. Ever wonder why Mexican drug cartels are so good at getting and wielding power? Delta Force Guys trained them.
It's not a Hollywood vibe
i'm a bit of an operator myself
dont go in for that gay military stuff tho
I was drafted in the special forces in an ex-commie country. AMA
what country? how old are you?
>ib4 im not saying
then dont do an ama you reddit Black person
Bulgaria, 38
what was the coolest shit you got to do? did you get to pop off rpgs for fun or anything?
Coolest shit was parachuting and firing all kinds of weapons, including RPG. I wasn't prepared for what actually happens when you fire it - fricking loud as hell, your ears ring and you can't see shit in front of you because of the smoke. And then when the rocket explodes on the target you can barely process what happened. Also it was surreal to fire my AK with a suppressor. But after many shootings you get used to all.
I didn't see combat of course, so those are mostly the highlights of my time in the SFs. And, of course, the weeks in the mountains in a tent. That was neat, because my tent had a fireplace, if you can imagine it. Outside was -10 and in the tent I was in a shirt. But it wasn't always fun. We had lectures for days in what was practically class rooms. And you didn't want to be on the cooking/cleaning shift. Those sucked a lot.
Delta Force has a different route to get into. From what I know they look at candidates thru their already established reputation in the Army and it's a matter of applying and know the right people.
The Navy Seals are mostly candidate who are in great physical shape either straight from the civilian world or prior enlistment and they go thru Boot Camp , Pre-BUD/S then BUD/S.
Delta Force are the equivalent of DevGroup. Delta will take a look at any applicant from any branch (er, maybe not coast guard?). DevGroup only has experienced SEALs elligible to apply as assaulters. You have an easier time getting a look in to Delta than you do Dev, with many reservists successfully joining.
>(er, maybe not coast guard?)
Yes, Coast Guard too. Anyone in the armed forces can join, even reservists.
Everyone knows the higher your squads name is in the greek alphabet the more badass and hardcore you are. Delta is like 4th. Gaylords couldn't even achieve a medal position
>this is snake doctor speak to me
This show is so fricking cheesy, but I love it.
Same, if you can get past that mid 00s cheesy shit that all shows then had and some of the wife drama its really good.
>australian SAS
>get in trouble for rocking up to other special forces briefings and claiming to be an attachment
>just want to kill sand nigs
>eventually they realize you aren't meant to be there
>they still let you come along because you're so fricking good at killing sand nigs and they can jsut always pretend they didn't know you weren't meant to be there
>when you get caught claim it's all just bantz
>also get caught driving around with nazi flags on official vehicles
>also get caught killing captives who won't fit on the exfil rather than letting them go free
shame our government is slowly prosecuting them one by one and throwing them under the bus for """"""""""war crimes""""""""""" (fake and gay)
the "australians are cool and badass" meme has been over for some years now. your china flu lockdowns basically made you the cucks of the south
hence why our gay as frick government (both sides) is prosecuting our war heroes in kangaroo courts moron, i wont disagree with you
>kangaroo courts
heh
>war heroes
kek no they were a bunch of frickwits. Andrew Hastie was in the SAS in Afghanistan and fully supports the prosecutions, especially ex private school boy Ben Roberts Smith.
you /misc/ homosexuals keep parroting this without realise that it was one gay little city, the equivalent of showing someone events in San Francisco and saying that was is the what it is like to live in Florida or Texas?
The homosexual who filmed is the one who should have been punished. If you have a problem with pieces of shit being executed don't send the SAS anywhere or let them do anything.
It was also that multiple governments kept continually sending them in when they probably should have focused elsewhere sometimes. Constant use risks dulling the knife, so to speak.
The Australian Special Operations Task Group (SASR and Commandos) did something like 20 deployments in Afghanistan which were full of frequent high intensity combat often out in the field for days or weeks at a time. Considering the relatively small number of operators that was multiple deployments per operator with little rest in between. It seriously fricked a lot of them up.
You sound like a Canadian bragging and overemphasizing their small contribution to global efforts.
None of those allegations were about the SAS. They were about 2nd Commando, their bogan little brothers.
Why do people call special forces soldiers as operatives?
My uncle was in the SRR and never referred to himself or squaddies as operatives
Operatives are CIA agents. Operators are Delta. What Delta train in is called the Operator Training Course, or OTC for short. Not all Special Operations personnel are Operators.
CIA doesn't call people agents, as a general rule. They are called officers.
Good to know.
it's a legal distinction -
is right about this, and it's something they had to come up with in the 80s
Only one person in Hollywood is worthy. CHUCK NORRIS
When I was a young private, my team leader told me one morning that I was assigned to go on a detail to play opfor for some cooler guys. The time of the detail arrived, we were all told to dress in civilian clothes and get on charter buses with the windows blacked out. Some time later, we arrived at a seemingly abandoned airfield. This airfield had a skeleton 787 with the skin removed, another 787 with the skin on and later that day, a working 787 with full crew (believe it was AA). We did a typical crawl, walk, run training with who else than the D-Boys whilst they practiced hostage rescue on airlines.
Super jacked dudes, tall dudes, short dudes, scrawny dudes, guys ranging from mid 20's to late 50's with grey hair. Mostly white guys with a few Hispanic dudes sprinkled in. They shot the frick out of us with sim rounds all day. They had their dogs with muzzles on and told us that if the muzzles fall off to crawl into a ball protecting your face and fingers as best you can and scream "real world real world!"
The culminating exercise was a run portion, we all boarded the working 787 with the flight attendant crew, pilots, everyone. At this point it was late, probably 2 in the morning. We're sitting on this plane for what seems like forever, because we all know what's coming and say what you want, we were all scared even if it was just training.
Every door on the aircraft was breached simultaneously and daisy chains of bangers (6-9 flashbangs all threaded to one fuse) were thrown in and the Belgian malanois were set loose, running down the isles and attacking the terrorists. I was sitting behind one of the designated terrorists who was carrying a glock and as soon as he stood up to engage, he was shot by like 6 different dudes from all angles of the plane. He ended up shooting one in the plate before getting "killed" and the Delta dude called him a homosexual which was funny. One of the coolest memories I have. They really are next level.
Not the same training, but here's an example of how quick they are
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They lack the whole ''macho'' image Navy Seals try to market themselves as. You wouldn't see this guy whoring himself out like Jocko and other jokers.
Deltas are always attached to glowBlack folk, Hollywood is an outpost for glowies so they can't reveal their parlor tricks.
Navy SEALs work because they usually fight clearly established bad goys, carefully crafted over the decades.
The Deltas in the last arc of Sicario were plain evil and were ready to execute their own fellow countrymen because they're loyal to their glowie handler.
The most underrated goys are the SF/Gay Berets, they actually fight in low intensity conflicts all around the world and do all the jobs both Delta and SEALs do. They have to tard wrangle local forces who may or may not share their mission and objectives.
>The Deltas in the last arc of Sicario were plain evil and were ready to execute their own fellow countrymen because they're loyal to their glowie handler.
He was loyal to his team and knew 2 FBI frick ups would probably get someone killed and he was almost right.
>The Deltas in the last arc of Sicario were plain evil and were ready to execute their own fellow countrymen because they're loyal to their glowie handler.
Those weren't Delta they were CIA SAC
They got an anime.
why are these threads always full of special forces subject matter experts
spend that time trying to get that mile run time under 7 minutes you fat fricks
How can any other branch compete with the Navy?
>have dominion over 73% of the earth's surface
>STILL have the second largest airforce on earth at your disposal, second only to THE US AIR FORCE
>STILL have the best ground assault troops including the team that took out america's public enemy #1 in the middle of a fricking desert
>only the second largest naval force
>retiring ships faster than they can replace them
They only recruit sociopaths now. They want someone who can go into a room and behead some guy's daughter right in front of him without even flinching.
Do top glowies even have a life or are they on some base 24/7...What would they even do on a daily basis at home? Just sit in the darkness with a scotch bottle and a handgun?
when are we getting some kinos on pic related?