Basically. The weird, obsessive adult fans used to be that "other" part of the audience which cartoons would playfully joke about with characters like Comic Book Guy or bits like that Get a Life foundation skit from Animaniacs, but now it's basically become the core audience. If anything kids these days see clips on YouTube, like I bet more actual children have seen Disney's Chibiverse shorts than watch the actual shows that they're based on.
>The weird, obsessive adult fans used to be that "other" part of the audience which cartoons would playfully joke about with characters like Comic Book Guy or bits like that Get a Life foundation skit from Animaniacs, but now it's basically become the core audience.
Then why are cartoons MORE kiddish and LESS adult than they were in the 90's? We used to have Cow and Chicken, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuff Girls. All had excellent art direction, dark humor, and innuendos. Even going into the 2000's, we had Invader Zim, Billy and Mandy..
Gravity Falls was the last show that felt edgy. Everything since is so soft. And even Gravity Falls didn't have that great art direction.
They appeal to terminally online adults by going heavier on the "lore" and continuity. As for edginess, that's just been a gradual decline, I guess, arguably kicked off by when they introduced age ratings for TV programs. South Park probably didn't help, since it was a cute looking show which was extremely (for the time) edgy - I remember back when it premiered, a girl at my school was forced to turn her completely innocent SP shirt inside out.
>Then why are cartoons MORE kiddish and LESS adult than they were in the 90's?
Because the 22 year old man/womanchildren watching cartoons nowadays are less mature and mentally stable than the 9 year olds who were watching cartoons in 1995.
Same reason anime aimed at 10 year olds is less "kiddish" and more "adult" than modern cartoons; Japanese 10 year olds are more mature and mentally stable than American 22 year olds.
Zoomers are a meme.
idk what you're talking about, there's plenty. You're a google search away from finding them.
I really feel like you're just upset that women and other groups you hate are starting to see more representation in cartoons... which honestly is just a level of discomfort that you just have to come to terms with.
There have always been cartoons that have a dual audience. This isn't new.
and me me me me !!! aimed at mid 20s girls (male) who can't face the harshness of their reality and insist on being cute cartoon girls going on fun lighthearted adventures!
also boyz u got like!! the boys from teen titans go!!! they are always saying bro stuff!!!
also i feel sick so im gonna end this here and lay down
Boys don't want humans (except for Popeye, Fred Flintstone and Laura Haruna of course), they want funny animals such as rabbits, ducks, pigs, chickens, skunks, coyotes, road runners, mice, bears, horses, dogs and cats.
>mid 20s girls (male) who can't face the harshness of their reality and insist on being cute cartoon girls
I wish I could say this demographic didn't exist, but sadly, here we are
A lot. Probably the best anime aimed at little girls and one of the best aimed at kids in general.
Hamtaro was light years better and is uni-sex, Doremi was brought up because it was a better magic girl anime but all Doremi is is just Fat Albert with e-girls.
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Doremi vs racist punk
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>Doremi is is just Fat Albert
I dont know, Doremi isnt nearly as preachy as fat albert and the controversial issues it deals with (which people often exaggerate) are always dealt with in a more sensitive way. People in this site exaggerate a lot when they call it a masterpiece or a very obscure show, it's a very good series for little girls, and that's all. >with e-girls
Being a series aimed at little girls it is normal that it is starred by little girls, the fact that people here sexually fantasize with them is another matter.
they can't compete with anime so they're filling a hole that japanese shows aren't usually filling
there are shows aimed toward young girls but not many have found western success or have to many risque moments that would make non weebs uncomfortable
In the sense that it's used to attract attention from the opposite sex? Maybe it would work today, but back then, no, it was only something you'd talk about with your fellow loser friends.
>The production later discovered one key reason for the movie’s unsatisfactory numbers was that boys who watched the show didn’t want to go to the movie theater to see what might have been considered a movie for girls. “A lot of them wanted to see it but didn’t go because they thought that if their friends saw them, they were going to get picked on at school,” McCracken said. “If there was a movie now, I think boys would go see it.” >Simensky recalled another focus group where they asked boys between 8 and 9 years old if they watched “Powerpuff.” Only one of them raised his hand. Later, they told them to put their head down and close their eyes and asked them again who watched the show. This time, the vast majority admitted to watching it when the others couldn’t judge them.
No they don't, why Cinemaphilemblr thinks that boys think the same as girl when they're totally different?
Boys don't and will never truly care about female MCs and the only way to make them tolerate one is when they're hot which these dyke self-insert cartoons definitely are fricking not
>Boys don't and will never truly care about female MCs
Laura Haruna, Katie Minami, Nozomi Tojo, Wilma Flintstone, Babs Bunny, Dot, Red Hot Riding Hood, Betty Boop (pre-code only) and especially Slappy Squirrel will like to have a word with you.
If anything it just helps add to it. Even as a horny teen I wouldn't watch a show just because it made PP hard. Go on WWOEC to find porn of it? Sure. But actually watch it? It had to be good for that to happen.
I think out of all of that I only genuinely liked Xena.
I also liked the Sinbad series at that age, so I think it being a schlocky fantasy with 90s bad CGI mattered a lot more to me than the show having a female lead in that regard. Okay, fine. I had a crash on Maeve.
Besides the fact animation is becoming gate-kept by women at every level, the ironic reason there are fewer boys shows is because existing boys shows do well. Spongebob and Loud House have been the biggest shows on Nick for years and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Teen Titans Go has a similar stranglehold on CN. Disney is bringing back Phineas and Ferb after 5 years because they noticed how many hours it was getting on D+.
Because of the longevity of boys shows, fewer slots are open, and fewer new boys shows get developed.
>Sponge bob and Loud house are not boy shows
They are to the networks. Or to be more blunt, the only categories that exist in their minds are "general audiences" and "girls." So as long as those shows do well, regardless of how you feel about them, the network itself sees no strong compulsion to order more shows that aren't targeted at girls.
And to expound on this a bit further. This is why all of the virtue-signalling about how girls are underserved is hypocritical. Shows that are truly focused on girls are naturally working with half of the potential viewership as general audience shows. They end up having to work twice as hard, and they're destined for quicker cancellation, which is why we have this glut of girls shows that come and go.
If a network really wants girls shows to flourish, it needs to adjust ratings expectations accordingly.
Is it aimed at girls or does it just have girls in it? It looks like a shitty show irregardless, but it's not like it's akin to She-ra or a Barbie movie that is very obviously geared towards girls/women.
Also it's a Nickelodeon show and their current line up has practically all male leads except for Monster High and their shitty live action shows like iCarly so I think you'll live.
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Video games
Anime
Youtube
Etc. etc.
The only males who still care about cartoons are manchildren such as yourself.
YellowFlash2 is a dude unless you mean he's trans (male to female), because last I checked he is a cis-gender straight man with a wife and 3 kids (with a 4th one coming in 3 months).
What kid watches Popeye except for those who are interested in retro cartoons? (The reboot is garbage btw) If anything, Skibidi Toilet seems to be the new craze.
>kids want Game Sack and LGR
Why? I guess I can get LGR for le goofy boomer tech LOL, but GameSack is pretty dry for the most part and targeting Gen X, millennial, and maybe early zoomzooms.
He'a talking out of his ass. Notice he has no proof over Popeye's supposed popularity with young boys today? If that were true then the reboot would follow in the footsteps of the older shorts instead of being for toddlers.
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No, you're the one talking out of your ass, boys watch vintage animation made between 1915/1919-1969, mostly between 1928-1967.
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Do you even have proof of this?
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I can understand Old Looney Tunes, but not Popeye.
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Max and Dave are getting a another lease on life as of late.
https://twitter.com/fleischertoons
What makes a cartoon a girl cartoon or a boy cartoon? Sometimes it's really obvious, like (old) MOTU was clearly for boys, and MLP was clearly for girls. But something like Amphibia? Sure, it has girls as main characters, but it has action and a videogame-ish world with neat creature designs. Powerpuff Girls? Girls are the main characters, but it relies on violent action sequences with intentional eye candy (for boys) characters.
Those cartoons aren't aimed at girls. They are aimed at late 20s/early to mid 30s single women. Cue the occasional moms in their 30s. That's it.
Basically. The weird, obsessive adult fans used to be that "other" part of the audience which cartoons would playfully joke about with characters like Comic Book Guy or bits like that Get a Life foundation skit from Animaniacs, but now it's basically become the core audience. If anything kids these days see clips on YouTube, like I bet more actual children have seen Disney's Chibiverse shorts than watch the actual shows that they're based on.
If this is true, why are they still held to the same censorship standards as actual kids shows?
Not even execgays are moronic enough to not notice something like that and adjust accordingly.
>The weird, obsessive adult fans used to be that "other" part of the audience which cartoons would playfully joke about with characters like Comic Book Guy or bits like that Get a Life foundation skit from Animaniacs, but now it's basically become the core audience.
Then why are cartoons MORE kiddish and LESS adult than they were in the 90's? We used to have Cow and Chicken, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuff Girls. All had excellent art direction, dark humor, and innuendos. Even going into the 2000's, we had Invader Zim, Billy and Mandy..
Gravity Falls was the last show that felt edgy. Everything since is so soft. And even Gravity Falls didn't have that great art direction.
They appeal to terminally online adults by going heavier on the "lore" and continuity. As for edginess, that's just been a gradual decline, I guess, arguably kicked off by when they introduced age ratings for TV programs. South Park probably didn't help, since it was a cute looking show which was extremely (for the time) edgy - I remember back when it premiered, a girl at my school was forced to turn her completely innocent SP shirt inside out.
Adult doesn't have to mean edgy.
>Then why are cartoons MORE kiddish and LESS adult than they were in the 90's?
Because the 22 year old man/womanchildren watching cartoons nowadays are less mature and mentally stable than the 9 year olds who were watching cartoons in 1995.
Same reason anime aimed at 10 year olds is less "kiddish" and more "adult" than modern cartoons; Japanese 10 year olds are more mature and mentally stable than American 22 year olds.
Zoomers are a meme.
Source: I get all my information from boomer gimmick accounts on twitter
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>The weird, obsessive adult fans
Aka all of us. Why are you pretending to be better when you're on Cinemaphile?
idk what you're talking about, there's plenty. You're a google search away from finding them.
I really feel like you're just upset that women and other groups you hate are starting to see more representation in cartoons... which honestly is just a level of discomfort that you just have to come to terms with.
There have always been cartoons that have a dual audience. This isn't new.
and me me me me !!! aimed at mid 20s girls (male) who can't face the harshness of their reality and insist on being cute cartoon girls going on fun lighthearted adventures!
also boyz u got like!! the boys from teen titans go!!! they are always saying bro stuff!!!
also i feel sick so im gonna end this here and lay down
Boys don't want humans (except for Popeye, Fred Flintstone and Laura Haruna of course), they want funny animals such as rabbits, ducks, pigs, chickens, skunks, coyotes, road runners, mice, bears, horses, dogs and cats.
what if girls wanna be skunks too? hmm?
but then i think gumball is coming back and that has fummy male characters that are animals
Skunk girls are underrated and hot. I love the contrast of a beautiful woman and terrible odor, especially when her hygiene is perfect.
>Scat
No thank you
>mid 20s girls (male) who can't face the harshness of their reality and insist on being cute cartoon girls
I wish I could say this demographic didn't exist, but sadly, here we are
i am merely the mouthpiece for a new wave of autism
>Why is every cartoon nowadays aimed at brown girls
fixed
>The show the creator based it off of.
Basically SpongeBob but inserting his daughter as him.
Who is the gay middle eastern man with the nice ass flashing the peace sign to?
That's Dharr Man.
Men have no pride anymore.
How do we fix this?
We can't
War.
That static expression is cracking me up
I'd call it a sigma stare but he has a wife so it don't count
Did he help spawn those things? Not sure if him being a cuck or hapa maker is worse in this scenario.
Mean
>if only you knew how bad things really are
Enjoy the girls.
funny post
But this isn't Sailor Moon.
But Ojamajo Doremi is better.
MUCH BETTER!!!!
How better?
A lot. Probably the best anime aimed at little girls and one of the best aimed at kids in general.
>Doesn't get The Amanda Show refence.
Hamtaro was light years better and is uni-sex, Doremi was brought up because it was a better magic girl anime but all Doremi is is just Fat Albert with e-girls.
Doremi vs racist punk
>Doremi is is just Fat Albert
I dont know, Doremi isnt nearly as preachy as fat albert and the controversial issues it deals with (which people often exaggerate) are always dealt with in a more sensitive way. People in this site exaggerate a lot when they call it a masterpiece or a very obscure show, it's a very good series for little girls, and that's all.
>with e-girls
Being a series aimed at little girls it is normal that it is starred by little girls, the fact that people here sexually fantasize with them is another matter.
If it makes you feel any better, it'll get canceled after one season
Why do you care? You're not a boy, you're a grown ass man. You shouldn't be watching cartoons at all.
What is there for adults to watch? At least there were sitcoms 10 years ago.
Vivziepop slop
>things can't be "for me" unless the main character looks exactly like me
This type of mindset is everything wrong with Modern Animation.
What I want to know is if this show has any hot women in it.
Yup
So is this what you get when you hire fetish artists to work on your show?
Her design isn’t half bad. But the big gut definitely makes it a lot better for me. Consider me interested.
Max G won in the end
Did HotDiggityDemon work on this?
I Hope so.
Coincidentally the creator was a timing director on Brain Dump.
Prove it
Please
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Video games
There are still modern cartoons for boys, but you'd know that if you were interested in watching cartoons then complaining
>if you were interested in watching cartoons then complaining
yes
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Anime
>aimed at girls
>just because the MC is a girl
republican logic
You just posted cringe.
You're gonna lose Subscriber
have a nice day
Mean
they can't compete with anime so they're filling a hole that japanese shows aren't usually filling
there are shows aimed toward young girls but not many have found western success or have to many risque moments that would make non weebs uncomfortable
I know this is a bait thread but boys can enjoy shows with girl protagonists, just like girls have always enjoyed shows with boy protagonists
I know I wasn't the only young teen boy who enjoyed The Powerpuff Girls back when it first aired.
this is the equivalent oof "lol im not like the other girls xD" shit
In the sense that it's used to attract attention from the opposite sex? Maybe it would work today, but back then, no, it was only something you'd talk about with your fellow loser friends.
>The production later discovered one key reason for the movie’s unsatisfactory numbers was that boys who watched the show didn’t want to go to the movie theater to see what might have been considered a movie for girls. “A lot of them wanted to see it but didn’t go because they thought that if their friends saw them, they were going to get picked on at school,” McCracken said. “If there was a movie now, I think boys would go see it.”
>Simensky recalled another focus group where they asked boys between 8 and 9 years old if they watched “Powerpuff.” Only one of them raised his hand. Later, they told them to put their head down and close their eyes and asked them again who watched the show. This time, the vast majority admitted to watching it when the others couldn’t judge them.
Focus Groups are Cancer, but this is one of the few times they are right.
No they don't, why Cinemaphilemblr thinks that boys think the same as girl when they're totally different?
Boys don't and will never truly care about female MCs and the only way to make them tolerate one is when they're hot which these dyke self-insert cartoons definitely are fricking not
>Boys don't and will never truly care about female MCs
Laura Haruna, Katie Minami, Nozomi Tojo, Wilma Flintstone, Babs Bunny, Dot, Red Hot Riding Hood, Betty Boop (pre-code only) and especially Slappy Squirrel will like to have a word with you.
Boys watch anime or play video games.
*ahem*
>because they thought the girls were cute
That implies boys can't watch something for the quality of it.
If anything it just helps add to it. Even as a horny teen I wouldn't watch a show just because it made PP hard. Go on WWOEC to find porn of it? Sure. But actually watch it? It had to be good for that to happen.
"The girls are cute" is the perfect excuse.
I think out of all of that I only genuinely liked Xena.
I also liked the Sinbad series at that age, so I think it being a schlocky fantasy with 90s bad CGI mattered a lot more to me than the show having a female lead in that regard. Okay, fine. I had a crash on Maeve.
I'm not sure Xena was all that "girly." It's like saying Red Sonja is girly. Anyway for me it was the old Sabrina sitcom.
*ahem* ur a homosexual
Besides the fact animation is becoming gate-kept by women at every level, the ironic reason there are fewer boys shows is because existing boys shows do well. Spongebob and Loud House have been the biggest shows on Nick for years and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Teen Titans Go has a similar stranglehold on CN. Disney is bringing back Phineas and Ferb after 5 years because they noticed how many hours it was getting on D+.
Because of the longevity of boys shows, fewer slots are open, and fewer new boys shows get developed.
Sponge bob and Loud house are not boy shows except in the sense that a 60/40 audience split means it's a boy show.
Only MALE e-girlcon watch The Loud House, but yes boys do watch SpongeBob.
>Sponge bob and Loud house are not boy shows
They are to the networks. Or to be more blunt, the only categories that exist in their minds are "general audiences" and "girls." So as long as those shows do well, regardless of how you feel about them, the network itself sees no strong compulsion to order more shows that aren't targeted at girls.
Yea, about that...
And to expound on this a bit further. This is why all of the virtue-signalling about how girls are underserved is hypocritical. Shows that are truly focused on girls are naturally working with half of the potential viewership as general audience shows. They end up having to work twice as hard, and they're destined for quicker cancellation, which is why we have this glut of girls shows that come and go.
If a network really wants girls shows to flourish, it needs to adjust ratings expectations accordingly.
No, its because boys shows arent allowed masculinity in the west, look at any attmept at a boys show revival goin trough the Steven Universe filter.
The same shows. Anon, you didn't think it was just boys watching stuff like Powerpuff Girls right?
Is it aimed at girls or does it just have girls in it? It looks like a shitty show irregardless, but it's not like it's akin to She-ra or a Barbie movie that is very obviously geared towards girls/women.
Also it's a Nickelodeon show and their current line up has practically all male leads except for Monster High and their shitty live action shows like iCarly so I think you'll live.
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Anime
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
vegana.
Post it.
What?
As much as some dorks here don't like this, Amphibia was one of the last cartoons perfectly balanced between girl appeal and boy appeal.
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Video games
Anime
Youtube
Etc. etc.
The only males who still care about cartoons are manchildren such as yourself.
giong by this board, all these calarts cartoons are intended for pedophiles
i watched ATLA and aang was my favourite, and i am not an asian male. you should consider being less shallow in your tastes.
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Those very same cartuoohns.
SKIBIDI TOILET TIME
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Cat
i don't think any of these new shows are meant for anyone but people on Twitter. Kids aren't watching this stuff.
You're supposed to transition.
It's especially ironic because girls stop watching cartoons faster than boys. Who are they making these girly cartoons for?
Boys are watching anime. It has cool fights and hot girls.
Women are the only creatures mentally stunted enough to enjoy modern cartoons.
You mean Twitter Schizos, most women don't care for Cartoons.
unless you're gay, the cute girls though that show doesn't have any so that show is for no one really. dunno why nick even bothered.
> What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
Looking at the girls
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
From what I've seen, they tend to like Boruto, JJK, and Chainsaw Man.
Fapping to girl's aimed cartoons?
It's how PreCure lasted as long as it did.
Japan is getting ESG, so good luck with that.
Also get rid of Localizers
Japan is fighting back against ESG.
Nice
I know.
>YellowFlash 2
Is theres something wrong with him?
That's a woman, Anon.
YellowFlash2 is a dude unless you mean he's trans (male to female), because last I checked he is a cis-gender straight man with a wife and 3 kids (with a 4th one coming in 3 months).
Unless you're talking about
's picture which is a woman.
Why are you explaining the Joke?
>chudtubers
c'mon homie
Boys have porn. Be happy
>What the frick are boys supposed to enjoy?
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Still mad they killed Jojo Fridays
Also listen to the Audio Drama, moments like Jotaro saying Muda Muda to intentionally mock DIO are true Kino.
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No, only geeks and nerds watch that, normie boys have Popeye.
I think you meant to say Spongebob.
No, Popeye.
>23k views
Riiight
Theres others.
Give me one example
What kid watches Popeye except for those who are interested in retro cartoons? (The reboot is garbage btw) If anything, Skibidi Toilet seems to be the new craze.
Kids want Game Sack and LGR, not Skibidi Toilet.
Billions of kids watch Popeye (only the 1933-1957 shorts but mostly the 1933-1942 shorts).
>kids want Game Sack and LGR
Why? I guess I can get LGR for le goofy boomer tech LOL, but GameSack is pretty dry for the most part and targeting Gen X, millennial, and maybe early zoomzooms.
He'a talking out of his ass. Notice he has no proof over Popeye's supposed popularity with young boys today? If that were true then the reboot would follow in the footsteps of the older shorts instead of being for toddlers.
No, you're the one talking out of your ass, boys watch vintage animation made between 1915/1919-1969, mostly between 1928-1967.
Do you even have proof of this?
I can understand Old Looney Tunes, but not Popeye.
Max and Dave are getting a another lease on life as of late.
https://twitter.com/fleischertoons
They just do.
TOO MANY GIRLS!
What makes a cartoon a girl cartoon or a boy cartoon? Sometimes it's really obvious, like (old) MOTU was clearly for boys, and MLP was clearly for girls. But something like Amphibia? Sure, it has girls as main characters, but it has action and a videogame-ish world with neat creature designs. Powerpuff Girls? Girls are the main characters, but it relies on violent action sequences with intentional eye candy (for boys) characters.
You sound like a schizo, but I'll indulge you and tell you boys are supposed to enjoy inoffensive gender-neutral things.
Ywnbaw
Why?
Payback