why is everyone too scared to acknowledge what the metaphor was here?
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why is everyone too scared to acknowledge what the metaphor was here?
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>why is everyone too scared to acknowledge what the metaphor was here?
What do you think the metaphor was?
KYLO DO YOU WANNA SEE MY NEW LIGHTSABER
I don't want to alarm you, but palpatine or palpatines might have somehow returned
What's the difference?
Rian is such a dumbfrick hack. The real subversion should have been Luke tried to kill Kylo, then fell to the Dark side himself. Secluding himself on the island out guilt and true self hatred. Adding some fricking nuance and consequence to characters choices. Instead, "Luke big sad, Luke big mad, Luke actually big good, Luke dead"
>The real subversion should have been Luke tried to kill Kylo, then fell to the Dark side himself.
The fan base would've lost their shit even more than they did.
Yah but it would have been an actual subversion. Not to mention, in the non shitty version, Luke wouldn't have force sepuku'd himself.
The REAL subversion would've been making something new instead of rehashing previous plot lines or tearing down characters that came before
see what i mean? totally oblivious to what's being symbolized here. and
all skeptical lol
>socially reclusive uncle walks into sleeping nephew's bedroom at night
>gets an intrusive dark thought
>rod 'activates'
>being caught vacillating with the active rod, uncle feels terrible shame and has to run away to exile
>nephew turns into a school shooter because of what uncle did/almost did in the bedroom
Do you all just take this as so obvious that it goes without saying, or do people actually not realize this and not think that rian (the master troll joke-on-the-audience edgy twitter guy) would be doing this?
giggitry
Probably does explain why that whole scene felt wrong to me and completely out of character for Luke. I guess Rian was letting out some deep seeded trauma. Don't know why he had to do it with a fricking Star Wars film of all things.
take your meds
Is there ANY reason that the plot's literal 'seeing future danger in kylo/getting caught thinking about it' event had to take place in kylo's room at night, when he was sleeping?
Duh, because uh... so that... because in his bedroom is where uh...
A+ post
I've been saying this for years, but nobody listens. The metaphor is very overt, Luke literally holds his lightsaber at his crotch.
I thought the same thing. Since Force Awakens was basically an iteration of part 3 then they should have continued it with Luke being the big baddie as a Darth Vader. Everyone was expecting Luke to train Rey and stuff like Yoda did in part 5 but instead we got evil Luke, that's subversive enough if you ask me. That would have been a trillion times better that pull a Palpatine out of the ass. Kylo's journey would have made perfect sense too and would have made him an actual compelling character instead of a crybaby joke of a character.
Star Wars stories write themselves. I don't know how the frick they were able to frick it up this badly.
It's basic mythology, But they crowbar'd in Marxism which ruins the whole thing.
we've talked about it plenty
About the intention of the scene being Luke getting unbiddenly turned on by his young nephew? I don't think know, even the rest of the posts in this thread are people babbling about something else. Marxism? ok..
I think people think that it's their funny meme to say the scene turned out like luke being a pedo uncle and don't realize that it's the outright (but coyly played, teehee) intention
i agree with you. they even had mark hold the saber extra low and hiked up his belt for maximum crotch saber imagery
Its also probably this that left mark hamill speechless about what things luke was being made to do. All the other things there is quite suitable arguments that you can make, and even if it doesn't hold up, eh, it's just a hero character being made into more of an obi wan, it's liveable. But your chaste character alluded to being tempted to rape a child in his care "Just for a little second! And it's metaphorical. It's provocative, we're not squares here. Everything is life is messy like that". You would be making that fish out of water gasping face like hamill was in that interview
we're not too scared it's just that star wars is dead
Rian is a nihilist
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Surprised no one said circumcisions or something shit about the israelites
frick you i was about to bring up the israelites.
the whole thing is anti christian because rian grew up christian and then became an atheist, working for israelites.
>ancient jedi texts = the bible
>burn them publicly as political performance
>secretly hand them off the good goy feminist preachers
>buck break the black male
>Oh no, no, he's on his way! My drunk uncle's coming to town
>Sit on my lap, let's take a nap, let me just pull these down
>Go screw yourself, that's what you should do!
>You better not think of telling your mom, she'll probably just blame you!
>My drunk uncle, my drunk uncle
I have to sleep on my tummy
My drunk uncle, my drunk uncle
His hands make me feel funny!
My drunk uncle, my drunk uncle
He smells like whiskey!
My drunk uncle, my drunk uncle
I'm heading to therapy!
The new Indy movie proved that Solo flopped because it came out after the last Jedi, the excuse used to be that they didn’t cast Ford in Solo and that’s why it flopped but Indy 5 flipped worse than Solo lol the Last Jedi literally ruined Star Wars…I would say ruined it forever but all they have to do is start making cool shit but they just can’t bring themselves to do that