Christianity allegory
Omniman is god, mark is jesus
He's not really forgiven (yet). Aside from the hug, Mark spends pretty much the entire time seething at him.
That said, I get the feeling they're reaping what they sowed for changing the order of events back in season 1. As I understand it, a bunch of stuff they did in S1 before Nolan left happened after Nolan left in the comics. But with how they've adapted it, barely anything has happened between Nolan leaving and Mark meeting him again. Thus it all feels kinda hasty and awkward.
He's not though. It's hard to let go of the feelings of your dad acting like a normal dad all your life.
Mark's dialogue was "what the frick. frick you" for 10 minutes of the episode after this.
he killed thousands of people among other things. You still don't give such a person a hug of "im glad you're at least alive"
It's completely understandable why some people would think like this. Me, personably, I'd have done the same thing Mark did and give Nolan a hug, that despite all the terrible things he did and said back on Earth, I still missed him and loved him still. It sucks that they made Mark lash out at his father in the animated series (totally justified though, I'm not saying it isn't) whereas in the comics he was more forgiving of him when they meet again.
reading the comics I felt Mark got over it way too quickly. When you amp up the warpath Omni Man went on last season, show-Mark has to respond proportionally.
Mark hates what his father did and makes it clear he never wants to see him ever again
He just can't bring himself to outright want to see his father die
Stop being actually racist. Viltrumite psychology is different from a human's. You can't hold him to the same standards as people, but you can work towards them accepting our values. It's actually no different from all the human conflicts stemming from first contacts with other cultures.
He never comes back. He self-exiles, if I remember right. Debbie fricks the shit out of omniman when she finally meets up with him during the cosmic arch where they frick off to space.
stockholm syndrome was invented by the police authority to justify why hostages began to sympathize with the plight of their kidnappers. The people involved were released from being hostages and said "hey, those guys might be right, their cause is pretty just" and that wasn't going to be allowed to be the narrative so they invented the notion of stockholm syndrome. It's not real.
It was more of a situation where the hostage taker was nicer then the cops and instead of dealing with the fact cops don't give a shit about the hostage it was easier to blame savanna syndrome... aka made up shit.
Let me put it this way... if modern cops were in this situation, the dude wearing the babies would care more about their lives then the cops would.
Black person, he just murdered a bunch of people in cold blood and he just feel bad for it to be forgiven? Yeah, I bet the famillies of all those he butchered would be thrilled to hear that.
It's called UNCONDITIONAL LOVE morons
I know everyone on Cinemaphile is autistic but holy shit why you guys got to be anal retentive as well
For example I would still love my sister if she murdered some people. It's whatever.
if you think about it, everything that can be considered totally good would be also considered as insanity: >inconditionally love >true faith >full forgiveness >complete honesty >total generosity >unrestless perseverance
~~*unconditional love*~~ is a concept pushed by people ruled by satan to get inexperienced normies (including failed normies such as yourself) justify staying in abusive relationships of all kinds. It's a cope. Cartoons =/= reality but people will only take away what they wish to take away from watching certain media, and they subconsciously take this in as their own experiences. For example, realistically, you cannot be a psychopath/cluster b while being a genuinely loving father. Cluster B's do not know love. Anyone that has ever dealt with narcissists or any cluster B of any kind knows this by firsthand experience. What cluster B's say "Love" they actually mean control or fear. The character omniman in the show is obviously not a realistic depiction of an actual cluster B/loving but harsh at time father, because if you know people, as in, if you've met enough people to get the gist of how they are in general, you'd know that characters like nolan do not exist in real life, they cannot exist. But people like you will use a fake ass cartoon show like this one to push a concept to real people about 'unconditional love' when it's talking about a (remember, FAKE) cartoon character that killed millions of people in the show, and beat his son to near death, you use this character, out of all the examples you could have used, to exemplify this "unconditional love"? The only love that is in nature for love to be expressed unconditionally is from God himself. Not people.
>For example I would still love my sister if she murdered some people. It's whatever.
Would you forgive your sister right away like mark did in the show if she killed thousands of people using your face as a shield giving you severe ptsd and she beat the everloving pulp out of you too.
>president of america orders thousands of deaths >implying his family doesn't still give a shit
Humans are more complicated and contradictory than your socially moronic NEETbrain can comprehend, I'm afraid. Your inability to understand this is a sign that you're a sociopath.
No, the part where Omniman holds Invincible, using him like a plow through a moving subway train? That's show original. In the comic they do crash through a subway tunnel, crush part of one train and derail several others, but no Mark Knife through Human Butter.
He's not really forgiven (yet). Aside from the hug, Mark spends pretty much the entire time seething at him.
That said, I get the feeling they're reaping what they sowed for changing the order of events back in season 1. As I understand it, a bunch of stuff they did in S1 before Nolan left happened after Nolan left in the comics. But with how they've adapted it, barely anything has happened between Nolan leaving and Mark meeting him again. Thus it all feels kinda hasty and awkward.
He's not though. It's hard to let go of the feelings of your dad acting like a normal dad all your life.
Mark's dialogue was "what the frick. frick you" for 10 minutes of the episode after this.
Black person, he just murdered a bunch of people in cold blood and he just feel bad for it to be forgiven? Yeah, I bet the famillies of all those he butchered would be thrilled to hear that.
Man, I don't care what fricked up shit Mom and Dad get up to, i'm just happy for them they still have an active love life and don't want to know shit about it.
Why is it OK for Vegeta to murder thousands and be forgiven despite not even feeling a bit sorry about what he did while Omni-Man gets shit on by Mark despite him clearly trying to improvd
Vegeta didn't get forgiven so much as, oh frick evil superman came back, just ignore him and maybe we will live. Also, DragonBalz rez and maybe they erase memories? it's unclear.
Vegeta took ages to actually be forgiven by anyone, people just didn’t badger him about it because he was still VERY EVIL during the Cell saga and they didn’t want to put themselves on his shit list.
death is meaningless in dragon ball and only 1 guy would be strong enough to punish him and he's mentally moronic. It a similar case here but they should have focus more on Mark and Nolan having an alliance of convince to defeat the viltrumites over having mark kinda sorta be cordial with him.
Because Dragon Ball is anime and all anime is fricking terrible except for a few scant isolated unique ones. Stuff like Miyazaki films are just good because Miyazaki knows what he's doing, but outside of a handful of interesting ideas in certain shows, like Lupin (Crime heist content), outside of those all anime is absolute shit. Unapologetically garbage.
He wasn't forgiven he was told that for his crimes he was going straight to hell and that his actions of trying to save others at the last minute did not redeem a life time of being a piece of shit.
Its Dragon Ball. Vegeta literally blew up planets and killed millions. Now he's a good dad living on earth. I never saw the Invincible comics but I assume the montage we saw in the episode was longer and had more detail in the comics.
I hate how any time this series gets too moronic to defend through argument, the blame immediately lands on Dragon Ball. Despite most of the connections being pretty specific and not reflecting the overall story telling or content.
He never comes back. He self-exiles, if I remember right. Debbie fricks the shit out of omniman when she finally meets up with him during the cosmic arch where they frick off to space.
Debbie forgives and just becomes wiener puppet.
Cecil comes to agreement he can never step foot on Earth.
Guardians are all dead and he has no connections to new ones. Doesn't meet up with Immortal. Think he interacts with robot during the whole hostage situation.
The backlash isn't as bad as I expected. Personally, I still hate Omni-Man no matter how sappy the story tries to make him. You can't just move on from this.
There's a reason why the western world doesn'f execute criminals anymore, and why they are released eventually. If all murder was "unforgivable", then we'd just kill the killer and be done with it.
frick off moron, the reason murder's aren't executed is because people believe its inhumane and there is a possibly they might have been falsely convicted. Serial murderers are always held for life without the chance of parole, literally unforgivable
Vegeta had the excuse of being somewhat under the control of someone else and the fact that all of the victims were resurrected later on. Also the fight against Buu happened shortly after with him being a key player in defeating him, which served as a sort of redemption for him.
Because Vegeta wasn't fully forgiven or redeemed in Dragon Ball till near the end of the Buu arc. He just stuck around because Bulma had the hots for him and nobody could really stand up to him except Goku who was gone for long periods of time.
Vegeta literally didn't apologize for anything and yet people are happy to ignore all the bad shit he did because he became better. Meanwhile all people do is talk about how Omni-Man is irredeemable
In Dragonball death also doesn't matter because there literally is an eternal afterlife and also magic balls (Dragonball) that bring everyone back. So Vegeta never really killed anyone and killing people in Dragonball isn't so bad anyway
So because they can be brought back it was fine for Vegeta to murder people?
Vegeta had the excuse of being somewhat under the control of someone else and the fact that all of the victims were resurrected later on. Also the fight against Buu happened shortly after with him being a key player in defeating him, which served as a sort of redemption for him.
He was barely under mind control, considering he stopped fighting Goku to stop Buu. And again, people being resurrected shouldn't excuse Vegeta.
No it's not, but it's also not as bad as in a universe where people can't be brought back. It's more like punching someone. Yeah you suck, but ultimately it's inconsequential
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it doesnt erase the crime dude >the victim cant remember that she was raped, she doesnt have any violence marks nor trauma, because the drugs used on her, but there is a security camera that recorded all, >ay lmao it doesnt matter because its inconsequential
also, the dragon balls are still a legend about common people, so they dont know they will be resurrected.
>Omni Man grows up in biltrumite culture for 1,000 years >Chimps out and acts like a viltrumite when conflicted that the other viltrumites might kill his family if the planet doesn't kneel
Literally, not metaphorically, socio-economic factors.
>Literally a thousand years of indoctrination >Spends 20 years on Earth >Is now literally ready to fight like 50 other guys as strong as him or stronger just to be a dad
Just what sort of autism did Debbie instill into Nolan?
Pussy and love. This is why Kregg is based. He bred the frick out of a dozen women and he loves every one of them. And he wasn't an idiot like Nolan who took years to figure it out and had a manbaby outburst before crying and flying off to space.
I mean if you give them the character development gimme of "they are fundamentally not human, and have spent hundreds of years being indoctrinated into a society that as a baseline part of their ideology does not value love and compassion, but given the opportunity individuals of their species can and will discover the value of love and their inner humanity" then yeah, I guess I would argue that Krieg is a better person than Nolan. Plus, he got more pussy, which is a non-zero factor in him being a better person.
They made the omni-man fight more dramatic by having him actively go out of his way to waste people to torment mark and teach him a lesson- I understand that they did this to give the scene more emotional punch and serve as a good climax to the season, but it makes everything that comes after harder to swallow. Nolan's civilian kills in the comic were collateral damage, he just doesn't really care about them. Using Mark as a weapon to kill a subway full of people is so insanely malicous I'm not sure how they thought it was a good idea when the rest of the story necessitates Mark coming to terms with him.
so fricking tired of thirdaries. You didn't read the comic and you didn't watch the show. You're just here to rage bait or got this from some youtuber.
Either that or you are genuinely braindead.
Once I realized that no thread prompts are sincere and they're all intended to get people to respond angrily, I started to no longer like this site. It's like youtubers baiting people into drama, except even less understandable because we're all anonymous here. This all sucks.
Nolan is still his father, and Mark still has decades of time spent loving him
Mark see's that Nolan isn't beyond saving but is still seething at what he did, but at least he aint dead yet
There are families that excuse horrible shit all the time
Plus they are actual warmonger aliens so what his dad did was actually kind of nice in comparison
Might even have a stronger stomach for violence considering their bodies are basically designed for intergalactic war
> mass murdering faceless civvies good > being stern supe daughters about the importance of codes and earning your own keep bad
simple as really, Mark would be able to forgive Nolan if he was mean to him or anti-abortion
He's not forgiven, Mark is working through his feelings
he killed thousands of people among other things. You still don't give such a person a hug of "im glad you're at least alive"
It's completely understandable why some people would think like this. Me, personably, I'd have done the same thing Mark did and give Nolan a hug, that despite all the terrible things he did and said back on Earth, I still missed him and loved him still. It sucks that they made Mark lash out at his father in the animated series (totally justified though, I'm not saying it isn't) whereas in the comics he was more forgiving of him when they meet again.
reading the comics I felt Mark got over it way too quickly. When you amp up the warpath Omni Man went on last season, show-Mark has to respond proportionally.
He grabbed the boy and used him to bludgeon a trainfull of people to death.
Why did they feel the need to add that scene?
Because the story is about being edgy and hip
Without it we'd have a thousand "he did nothing wrong" threads.
To make the story less ambiguous. Omniman must be an evil irredeemable nazi
Mark hates what his father did and makes it clear he never wants to see him ever again
He just can't bring himself to outright want to see his father die
Stop being actually racist. Viltrumite psychology is different from a human's. You can't hold him to the same standards as people, but you can work towards them accepting our values. It's actually no different from all the human conflicts stemming from first contacts with other cultures.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Lol
Deb knows she can't do any better than a angry demigod.
Stockholm syndrome is literally not real
not a real thing, anon
stockholm syndrome was invented by the police authority to justify why hostages began to sympathize with the plight of their kidnappers. The people involved were released from being hostages and said "hey, those guys might be right, their cause is pretty just" and that wasn't going to be allowed to be the narrative so they invented the notion of stockholm syndrome. It's not real.
It was more of a situation where the hostage taker was nicer then the cops and instead of dealing with the fact cops don't give a shit about the hostage it was easier to blame savanna syndrome... aka made up shit.
Let me put it this way... if modern cops were in this situation, the dude wearing the babies would care more about their lives then the cops would.
that's completely accurate, well put
You still love Vegeta don't you? You think Vegeta is the best Dragonball character ever, right? You shouldn't talk
Frick Bejita, he’s a pathetic loser jobber who never wins
Vegeta has literally never lost to Goku ever
Is that really saying much considering he has always loses to the major antagonists?
Fricking kneel, you rat.
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I guess he just accidentally dropped his knee on the floor all those consecutive times.
Good thing I don’t base my morality on fricking anime
It's called UNCONDITIONAL LOVE morons
I know everyone on Cinemaphile is autistic but holy shit why you guys got to be anal retentive as well
For example I would still love my sister if she murdered some people. It's whatever.
There's no such thing as unconditional love, everyone has limits. What you mean is mental illness.
if you think about it, everything that can be considered totally good would be also considered as insanity:
>inconditionally love
>true faith
>full forgiveness
>complete honesty
>total generosity
>unrestless perseverance
If my sister used me as a goddamn battering ram for her murders I would hold zero love for her after that. You're a lunatic.
You think anons have ever received unconditional love?
~~*unconditional love*~~ is a concept pushed by people ruled by satan to get inexperienced normies (including failed normies such as yourself) justify staying in abusive relationships of all kinds. It's a cope. Cartoons =/= reality but people will only take away what they wish to take away from watching certain media, and they subconsciously take this in as their own experiences. For example, realistically, you cannot be a psychopath/cluster b while being a genuinely loving father. Cluster B's do not know love. Anyone that has ever dealt with narcissists or any cluster B of any kind knows this by firsthand experience. What cluster B's say "Love" they actually mean control or fear. The character omniman in the show is obviously not a realistic depiction of an actual cluster B/loving but harsh at time father, because if you know people, as in, if you've met enough people to get the gist of how they are in general, you'd know that characters like nolan do not exist in real life, they cannot exist. But people like you will use a fake ass cartoon show like this one to push a concept to real people about 'unconditional love' when it's talking about a (remember, FAKE) cartoon character that killed millions of people in the show, and beat his son to near death, you use this character, out of all the examples you could have used, to exemplify this "unconditional love"? The only love that is in nature for love to be expressed unconditionally is from God himself. Not people.
>For example I would still love my sister if she murdered some people. It's whatever.
Would you forgive your sister right away like mark did in the show if she killed thousands of people using your face as a shield giving you severe ptsd and she beat the everloving pulp out of you too.
>president of america orders thousands of deaths
>implying his family doesn't still give a shit
Humans are more complicated and contradictory than your socially moronic NEETbrain can comprehend, I'm afraid. Your inability to understand this is a sign that you're a sociopath.
Adding that subway scene in season 1 was a mistake.
Adding? That was from the OG comic.
No, the part where Omniman holds Invincible, using him like a plow through a moving subway train? That's show original. In the comic they do crash through a subway tunnel, crush part of one train and derail several others, but no Mark Knife through Human Butter.
that's a top 3 scene in the entire show though
maybe to an idiot
Mark loves his father.
He hates Omniman.
That's why he hugs Nolan, then tells him to frick off.
Christianity allegory
Omniman is god, mark is jesus
That’s not even how it works in christianity
He isn't? Besides that hug, Mark was pretty damn hostile
He's not really forgiven (yet). Aside from the hug, Mark spends pretty much the entire time seething at him.
That said, I get the feeling they're reaping what they sowed for changing the order of events back in season 1. As I understand it, a bunch of stuff they did in S1 before Nolan left happened after Nolan left in the comics. But with how they've adapted it, barely anything has happened between Nolan leaving and Mark meeting him again. Thus it all feels kinda hasty and awkward.
He's not though. It's hard to let go of the feelings of your dad acting like a normal dad all your life.
Mark's dialogue was "what the frick. frick you" for 10 minutes of the episode after this.
Loves his dad more than his mother.
By mark, both earth and ventronites want him dead
Forgiving people is in the nature of humanity. Mark showing his father that humanity is exactly what he needs to redeem him.
Black person, he just murdered a bunch of people in cold blood and he just feel bad for it to be forgiven? Yeah, I bet the famillies of all those he butchered would be thrilled to hear that.
The other viltrumites would be 1,000x worse if they come for earth
Just you wait until Mark makes that body count look like nothing
People who abandon their family just because they might've killed a couple of randos they've never seen in their life are genuine sociopaths.
>Might've
You made it sound like there's a chance Nolan didn't kill multiple people right in front of Mark.
Technically Mark's face did
>Your face kills mutillions of people and you have to live with it
he didn't murder all the bug people as revenge? I'm incredible dissapointed
Look at it this way, Nolan was piece of shit to Mark for like a few months compared to the nearly two decades of being a great father.
I think some people might be more concerned about the whole "mass murderer" and "traitor to an entire planet" thing. Your focus is weird.
and the "your mom was a pet" thingy.
That's just the truth
Man, I don't care what fricked up shit Mom and Dad get up to, i'm just happy for them they still have an active love life and don't want to know shit about it.
>I mean that in the most literal way possible
Women should be property.
That's the power of family. Something atheists wouldn't understand
My father could rape me and I'd hug him like Mark
>My father could rape me and I'd hug him like Mark
>sanest trad cath
You mistook your father with your Father
Most self-respecting cultist.
average christicuck
this guy is literally part of a right-wing psyop.
>That's the power of family. Something atheists wouldn't understand
>My father could rape me and I'd hug him like Mark
Why is it OK for Vegeta to murder thousands and be forgiven despite not even feeling a bit sorry about what he did while Omni-Man gets shit on by Mark despite him clearly trying to improvd
Vegeta didn't get forgiven so much as, oh frick evil superman came back, just ignore him and maybe we will live. Also, DragonBalz rez and maybe they erase memories? it's unclear.
Vegeta took ages to actually be forgiven by anyone, people just didn’t badger him about it because he was still VERY EVIL during the Cell saga and they didn’t want to put themselves on his shit list.
Vegeta killed himself in a way where he was sure he was never coming back.
death is meaningless in dragon ball and only 1 guy would be strong enough to punish him and he's mentally moronic. It a similar case here but they should have focus more on Mark and Nolan having an alliance of convince to defeat the viltrumites over having mark kinda sorta be cordial with him.
Because Dragon Ball is anime and all anime is fricking terrible except for a few scant isolated unique ones. Stuff like Miyazaki films are just good because Miyazaki knows what he's doing, but outside of a handful of interesting ideas in certain shows, like Lupin (Crime heist content), outside of those all anime is absolute shit. Unapologetically garbage.
this, except with cartoons, movies, vidya, novels and comics
Miyazaki is a moronic pedo, witness TRVE anime kino.
He wasn't forgiven he was told that for his crimes he was going straight to hell and that his actions of trying to save others at the last minute did not redeem a life time of being a piece of shit.
Because he took the Bugpill
Getting a lot of "he a good boy, ant dun nuffin wrong, he on dem programz and you can't judge him on his worst day" energy here.
What are the chances Mark never forgives his father or love him again in the animated adaptation
Its Dragon Ball. Vegeta literally blew up planets and killed millions. Now he's a good dad living on earth. I never saw the Invincible comics but I assume the montage we saw in the episode was longer and had more detail in the comics.
I hate how any time this series gets too moronic to defend through argument, the blame immediately lands on Dragon Ball. Despite most of the connections being pretty specific and not reflecting the overall story telling or content.
How does everyone else (Debbie, Cecil, Guardians) react when he comes back?
He never comes back. He self-exiles, if I remember right. Debbie fricks the shit out of omniman when she finally meets up with him during the cosmic arch where they frick off to space.
Debbie forgives and just becomes wiener puppet.
Cecil comes to agreement he can never step foot on Earth.
Guardians are all dead and he has no connections to new ones. Doesn't meet up with Immortal. Think he interacts with robot during the whole hostage situation.
It's not like he can beat his dad up
if he doesn't forgive his dad then what will he have after 500 years?
>You don't get to call me son anymore
>Noooo why are you with another woman, what about me and mom
Make up your mind
The backlash isn't as bad as I expected. Personally, I still hate Omni-Man no matter how sappy the story tries to make him. You can't just move on from this.
Reminder that murderers in real life are expected to be forgiven by society once they have done their time.
no they are not.
There's a reason why the western world doesn'f execute criminals anymore, and why they are released eventually. If all murder was "unforgivable", then we'd just kill the killer and be done with it.
frick off moron, the reason murder's aren't executed is because people believe its inhumane and there is a possibly they might have been falsely convicted. Serial murderers are always held for life without the chance of parole, literally unforgivable
That and also sometimes the position that the social contract doesn't extend to granting the state the power of arbitrary death over its members.
Why is this bad but it's all right for Vegetal to literally blast a huge chunk of a stadium, giving him a similar body count
Vegeta had the excuse of being somewhat under the control of someone else and the fact that all of the victims were resurrected later on. Also the fight against Buu happened shortly after with him being a key player in defeating him, which served as a sort of redemption for him.
And Omniman killed three Viltrumites to protect a planet
Because Vegeta wasn't fully forgiven or redeemed in Dragon Ball till near the end of the Buu arc. He just stuck around because Bulma had the hots for him and nobody could really stand up to him except Goku who was gone for long periods of time.
But he's really sorry about that
Vegeta literally didn't apologize for anything and yet people are happy to ignore all the bad shit he did because he became better. Meanwhile all people do is talk about how Omni-Man is irredeemable
In Dragonball death also doesn't matter because there literally is an eternal afterlife and also magic balls (Dragonball) that bring everyone back. So Vegeta never really killed anyone and killing people in Dragonball isn't so bad anyway
So because they can be brought back it was fine for Vegeta to murder people?
He was barely under mind control, considering he stopped fighting Goku to stop Buu. And again, people being resurrected shouldn't excuse Vegeta.
No it's not, but it's also not as bad as in a universe where people can't be brought back. It's more like punching someone. Yeah you suck, but ultimately it's inconsequential
it doesnt erase the crime dude
>the victim cant remember that she was raped, she doesnt have any violence marks nor trauma, because the drugs used on her, but there is a security camera that recorded all,
>ay lmao it doesnt matter because its inconsequential
also, the dragon balls are still a legend about common people, so they dont know they will be resurrected.
>Omni Man grows up in biltrumite culture for 1,000 years
>Chimps out and acts like a viltrumite when conflicted that the other viltrumites might kill his family if the planet doesn't kneel
Literally, not metaphorically, socio-economic factors.
>Literally a thousand years of indoctrination
>Spends 20 years on Earth
>Is now literally ready to fight like 50 other guys as strong as him or stronger just to be a dad
Just what sort of autism did Debbie instill into Nolan?
>Just what sort of autism did Debbie instill into Nolan?
What asian pussy does to a mfer
Human pussy is just something else
Fricking kek. I hope this is exactly what it looks like.
it is EXACTLY what it looks like
Pussy and love. This is why Kregg is based. He bred the frick out of a dozen women and he loves every one of them. And he wasn't an idiot like Nolan who took years to figure it out and had a manbaby outburst before crying and flying off to space.
huh, now that you mention it, Kregg might actually be a better person than Nolan
I mean if you give them the character development gimme of "they are fundamentally not human, and have spent hundreds of years being indoctrinated into a society that as a baseline part of their ideology does not value love and compassion, but given the opportunity individuals of their species can and will discover the value of love and their inner humanity" then yeah, I guess I would argue that Krieg is a better person than Nolan. Plus, he got more pussy, which is a non-zero factor in him being a better person.
They made the omni-man fight more dramatic by having him actively go out of his way to waste people to torment mark and teach him a lesson- I understand that they did this to give the scene more emotional punch and serve as a good climax to the season, but it makes everything that comes after harder to swallow. Nolan's civilian kills in the comic were collateral damage, he just doesn't really care about them. Using Mark as a weapon to kill a subway full of people is so insanely malicous I'm not sure how they thought it was a good idea when the rest of the story necessitates Mark coming to terms with him.
Characters act weird and unorganic because the characters are driven by plot, not the other way around.
so fricking tired of thirdaries. You didn't read the comic and you didn't watch the show. You're just here to rage bait or got this from some youtuber.
Either that or you are genuinely braindead.
Once I realized that no thread prompts are sincere and they're all intended to get people to respond angrily, I started to no longer like this site. It's like youtubers baiting people into drama, except even less understandable because we're all anonymous here. This all sucks.
Nolan is still his father, and Mark still has decades of time spent loving him
Mark see's that Nolan isn't beyond saving but is still seething at what he did, but at least he aint dead yet
There are families that excuse horrible shit all the time
Plus they are actual warmonger aliens so what his dad did was actually kind of nice in comparison
Might even have a stronger stomach for violence considering their bodies are basically designed for intergalactic war
Love forgives everything. Love is always trusting, and always hoping, and never gives up.
> mass murdering faceless civvies good
> being stern supe daughters about the importance of codes and earning your own keep bad
simple as really, Mark would be able to forgive Nolan if he was mean to him or anti-abortion
At least show Mark wasn't 100% ok with everything like comic book Mark was
Mark immediately tells him to frick off after this
God, Anissa is going to make this series discourse unbearable.