>he refused to wageslave for him and made his own comic company
#1
According to the Wikipedia, Image Comics was initially Rob Liefeld's idea
#2
Despite the nostalgia glasses most will use ain't no zoomers gone care about capeshit so I know those who care are 30-minimum the Image founders were Hippocrates who used the fame they recieved from working on Marvel's intellectual properties and used that to hurt the very companies that allowed them to become the professionals they are.
If you know the lore, you know the lore and I know it's """hip and cool""" to shit on Marvel and DC in [current year] but worshipping proto-e-celebs is essentially what the cartoons fandom does with Dave Filloni or Rebecca Sugar.
I personally don't "hate" Todd, I just refuse to worship him.
>zoomers are becoming very antisemitic.
It's weird how there's a very noticeable shift in attitudes between the people who lived though 9/11 and the people born after it. I hope zoomers won't learn the hard way about who's the real problem like we did.
Yeah but zoomers are also brown. If we are to assume israelites pushed non-whites/LGBTs onto society, trust me when I say that shit is here to stay for a long time.
I don't dislike him for his comic stuff, although most of his stuff is too edgy for me. I can't stand him as a toy company. He has this 90s mentality that makes collecting anything he produces a fricking chore. Random variants that you get without asking for them, shitty FOMO distribution system to try and make his toys feel more popular, and then just baffling design and engineering choices like overly heavy ankle ratchets or characters with a weird side eye expression. Oh and he's getting into NFTs. It makes me so fricking mad that he hasn't lost the DC license yet.
>dislike him for his comic stuff
Most people don't like his art or what he passes off as story-telling.
Goatlicker at least gets (and pays) artist with actual talent, which helps even when an story is absurd or repetitive and unoriginal. All Todd has is his own generic and very edgelord, stuck-in-the-90s artwork.
>toy company
Also this.
Even absent the problems with the DC license that you mentioned, even when he steps outside that - for the Dune characters - those are fricking useless crap that are pushing the casual toy buyer to buy the Funko Pops instead, which is just generally bad for the toy marker in general; just to mention one current toy he's responsible for.
People hate those who are successful. Mcfarlane is a self-made entrpreneur who was one of the last creators to create long lasting icons in the genre. Hate him or not, what he's accomplished is worth respecting.
And frick Marvel and DC for fricking over so many creators over the years.
What did he do? A short run on spiderman and a shorter run on spawn as an artist and he's this hall of famer? Just dont feel he did enough in the medium to be regarded so highly. Not as an artist. As a writer, he's garbage. As a toy pimp, he's tops.
He has incredible drive, little talent, and refuses to stay in his lane. He pissed off writers by writing his own Spider-Man book, helped start Image pissing off the business gays at Marvel, started his own toy company forcing others to make higher quality products. Also Gaiman thought he was sticking it to Mcfarlane by getting paid a million per book then got mad that he didn't actually frick Todd over.
>"I'll pay you a $1,000,000 for a month's work!"
How is this supposed to make Gaiman look bad? Who wouldn't take that deal?
Last I checked, Gaiman still writes new stories even though he's financially well off. Todd abandoned drawing comics as soon as he could financially afford to.
Gaiman's not a mark. Spawn 9 came out at a time when Todd was considered to be the best penciller in comics and Neil was the best writer. When you're making a book like Sandman, people want you more than you want them.
Bunch of American comic writers were jealous of Mcfarlane because of his popularity. Mcfarlane realized he wasn't a good writer and paid different writers outside the mainstream to work on Spawn. He thought he could trust Gaiman and offered him a million dollars and complete creative control to write issue #9. Gaiman was actually on the American side of hating Mcfarlane and took the million for a single floppy. Mcfarlane made toys of characters from that issue so when Gaiman went to brag that he israeliteed Mcfarlane he embarrassed himself. Other British writers like Alan Moore and Grant Morrison worked on Spawn as well but realized Todd should be able to make toys of his own artwork. Gaiman never let it go and flipped out when it looked like Mcfarlane acquired the right to Miracle Man. So he got Marvel to help him sue Mcfarlane.
Im not a fan of his art, but I do like the Spider-man eye thing. Todd drawing them bigger when everyone at Marvel was telling him to stop it, and then it becomes loved by fans and everyone at Marvel acting like they were behind Todd the whole time.
The guy has balls. He says he sent in 700 submissions to Marvel before he got work.... most artists in his position, if they finally got a job at Marvel, they would totally cower and draw the Marvel house style in order to keep this job that they dreamed so long for. But Todd was like "Frick that" and kept drawing big eyes and stringy webs, because he knew readers didnt want a perpetual cycle of artists that drew Spider-man in the marvel house style.
I haven't read his work but this video about his career was interesting.
The video specifically talks about how he revolutionized the look of Spider-Man after Marvel had been mandating everyone on the book draw like John Romita for over a decade.
Rob going on a huge rant about how Todd was never actually popular, everyone was only about Youngblood and X-Force was bizarre. Why does Rob have to hate on the people who used to be his friends?
He seems like an butthole and I never particularly cared for his art but props to him for doing his own thing and being really successful. It's tough to do in comics so he is clearly doing something right.
He just comes across that way to me. Very arrogant and he has a right to be, I guess. He is a super famous creator and I am here talking shit on Cinemaphile. I do respect what he has done though.
>Todd got put in his place by Gaiman and rightfully sued. All of the self righteous talk about creator's rights was bullshit. Turns out Todd didn't care about that if it was going to take money out of his pocket >Todd got conned into thinking he was buying the rights to Marvel Man/Miracle Man >Todd named a bunch of his characters after people he knew in real life and then tried to sue them >Todd got successfully sued for $25 million dollars by a hockey player for defamation of character because he used the name for a hitman in Spawn >keeps Spawn in print purely because he's playing a game of chicken with Erik Larsen to see who can have the longest running independent comic in publication >keeps threatening to make another Spawn movie, even though the character hasn't be relevant for nearly 30 years.
Todd is Mr. Rah Rah Creators Rights, who's notoriously famous for screwing Neil Gaiman out of the rights of characters he created in Spawn and the guy who actually owned Miracleman/Marvelman
I never got how this is meant to be a gotcha. Clearly there's a difference between getting rhe rights to your own characters and creating characters meant to be derivative of that universe. The whole issue was never McFarlane denying credit or money, it was that Gaiman felt it wasn't enough.
Because he would constantly speak for other creators like a Ditko or a Kirby and say they were being screwed over in same way and reasoning he actually did to Neil.
And let's be real, the entire Spawn mythos, the conceit of the toy line was built off of what Neil introduced in issue #9.
Todd is kind of the James Cameron of comics. Working class Canadian boy with the drive to succeed. The main differences are that Jim is more respected artistically and Todd has managed to have a working marriage.
Is that the guy from how to train your museum at night?
Some porn parody actor?
for his stuntman-turned-pornstar good looks
Who?
Todd, man... wtf were you thinking considering jamie foxx for al.
Watch Collateral
Wait a second!
Oh shit!
what a guy
I don't hate him, I hate his wienersucking fanboys.
Smeghead.
Who the hell hates Zoolander? man is a national treasure
he is george lucas, also he tried to get venom from Marvel
I never particularly liked his work but is he “hated”
Big 2 shills hate him because he refused to wageslave for him and made his own comic companywith blackjack and hookers
>he refused to wageslave for him and made his own comic company
#1
According to the Wikipedia, Image Comics was initially Rob Liefeld's idea
#2
Despite the nostalgia glasses most will use ain't no zoomers gone care about capeshit so I know those who care are 30-minimum the Image founders were Hippocrates who used the fame they recieved from working on Marvel's intellectual properties and used that to hurt the very companies that allowed them to become the professionals they are.
If you know the lore, you know the lore and I know it's """hip and cool""" to shit on Marvel and DC in [current year] but worshipping proto-e-celebs is essentially what the cartoons fandom does with Dave Filloni or Rebecca Sugar.
I personally don't "hate" Todd, I just refuse to worship him.
>ain't no zoomers gone care about capeshit so I know those who care are 30-minimum
zoomers are becoming very antisemitic. all israeli things are interesting.
>zoomers are becoming very antisemitic.
It's weird how there's a very noticeable shift in attitudes between the people who lived though 9/11 and the people born after it. I hope zoomers won't learn the hard way about who's the real problem like we did.
Yeah but zoomers are also brown. If we are to assume israelites pushed non-whites/LGBTs onto society, trust me when I say that shit is here to stay for a long time.
hypocrites. Hippocrates was a doctor.
I think you meant Baseballs and Hockeys.
He tried to cheat Gaiman of his money.
I don't dislike him for his comic stuff, although most of his stuff is too edgy for me. I can't stand him as a toy company. He has this 90s mentality that makes collecting anything he produces a fricking chore. Random variants that you get without asking for them, shitty FOMO distribution system to try and make his toys feel more popular, and then just baffling design and engineering choices like overly heavy ankle ratchets or characters with a weird side eye expression. Oh and he's getting into NFTs. It makes me so fricking mad that he hasn't lost the DC license yet.
>dislike him for his comic stuff
Most people don't like his art or what he passes off as story-telling.
Goatlicker at least gets (and pays) artist with actual talent, which helps even when an story is absurd or repetitive and unoriginal. All Todd has is his own generic and very edgelord, stuck-in-the-90s artwork.
>toy company
Also this.
Even absent the problems with the DC license that you mentioned, even when he steps outside that - for the Dune characters - those are fricking useless crap that are pushing the casual toy buyer to buy the Funko Pops instead, which is just generally bad for the toy marker in general; just to mention one current toy he's responsible for.
Todd = God
People hate those who are successful. Mcfarlane is a self-made entrpreneur who was one of the last creators to create long lasting icons in the genre. Hate him or not, what he's accomplished is worth respecting.
And frick Marvel and DC for fricking over so many creators over the years.
His voice is annoying. He sounds like a butch gay.
What did he do? A short run on spiderman and a shorter run on spawn as an artist and he's this hall of famer? Just dont feel he did enough in the medium to be regarded so highly. Not as an artist. As a writer, he's garbage. As a toy pimp, he's tops.
why do you only post pictures from like 2003? Is chat gpt database really that out of date?
He has incredible drive, little talent, and refuses to stay in his lane. He pissed off writers by writing his own Spider-Man book, helped start Image pissing off the business gays at Marvel, started his own toy company forcing others to make higher quality products. Also Gaiman thought he was sticking it to Mcfarlane by getting paid a million per book then got mad that he didn't actually frick Todd over.
>Also Gaiman thought he was sticking it to Mcfarlane by getting paid a million per book then got mad that he didn't actually frick Todd over
Qrd
Basically Gaiman didn't really want to do Spawn but held Todd for a ridiculous sum on a non-contract deal and Todd agreed and actually paid him.
So Gaiman is a sell out. Gotcha.
>"I'll pay you a $1,000,000 for a month's work!"
How is this supposed to make Gaiman look bad? Who wouldn't take that deal?
Last I checked, Gaiman still writes new stories even though he's financially well off. Todd abandoned drawing comics as soon as he could financially afford to.
>How is this supposed to make Gaiman look bad?
It's not
See how it's drawn in 1993, they were still on good terms then
Gaiman's not a mark. Spawn 9 came out at a time when Todd was considered to be the best penciller in comics and Neil was the best writer. When you're making a book like Sandman, people want you more than you want them.
Bunch of American comic writers were jealous of Mcfarlane because of his popularity. Mcfarlane realized he wasn't a good writer and paid different writers outside the mainstream to work on Spawn. He thought he could trust Gaiman and offered him a million dollars and complete creative control to write issue #9. Gaiman was actually on the American side of hating Mcfarlane and took the million for a single floppy. Mcfarlane made toys of characters from that issue so when Gaiman went to brag that he israeliteed Mcfarlane he embarrassed himself. Other British writers like Alan Moore and Grant Morrison worked on Spawn as well but realized Todd should be able to make toys of his own artwork. Gaiman never let it go and flipped out when it looked like Mcfarlane acquired the right to Miracle Man. So he got Marvel to help him sue Mcfarlane.
Im not a fan of his art, but I do like the Spider-man eye thing. Todd drawing them bigger when everyone at Marvel was telling him to stop it, and then it becomes loved by fans and everyone at Marvel acting like they were behind Todd the whole time.
The guy has balls. He says he sent in 700 submissions to Marvel before he got work.... most artists in his position, if they finally got a job at Marvel, they would totally cower and draw the Marvel house style in order to keep this job that they dreamed so long for. But Todd was like "Frick that" and kept drawing big eyes and stringy webs, because he knew readers didnt want a perpetual cycle of artists that drew Spider-man in the marvel house style.
And good on him, because I’ll take the heat and say most 80’s Marvel art puts me to sleep or turns me off.
I haven't read his work but this video about his career was interesting.
The video specifically talks about how he revolutionized the look of Spider-Man after Marvel had been mandating everyone on the book draw like John Romita for over a decade.
Rob going on a huge rant about how Todd was never actually popular, everyone was only about Youngblood and X-Force was bizarre. Why does Rob have to hate on the people who used to be his friends?
Because he's a washed up hack
Liefeld is a petty asshat who is perpetually a teenager.
Dude had balls to force innovation.
Todd's main philosophy is "add sexy to it" which is a pretty simple but solid model
Has this guy actually made anything since the 90s (when even then it was mostly other people making stuff for him because he's creatively bankrupt)?
He writes minimum of one Spawn title per month and oversees the others.
Todd is based and I like when he laughed at Neil Gaiman over his failed relationship with Amanda Palmer.
Funny about that, Neil hated him prior that with no clear reason at all. even before the buying of Miracleman.
He seems like an butthole and I never particularly cared for his art but props to him for doing his own thing and being really successful. It's tough to do in comics so he is clearly doing something right.
What makes you think he's an butthole?
He just comes across that way to me. Very arrogant and he has a right to be, I guess. He is a super famous creator and I am here talking shit on Cinemaphile. I do respect what he has done though.
>Todd got put in his place by Gaiman and rightfully sued. All of the self righteous talk about creator's rights was bullshit. Turns out Todd didn't care about that if it was going to take money out of his pocket
>Todd got conned into thinking he was buying the rights to Marvel Man/Miracle Man
>Todd named a bunch of his characters after people he knew in real life and then tried to sue them
>Todd got successfully sued for $25 million dollars by a hockey player for defamation of character because he used the name for a hitman in Spawn
>keeps Spawn in print purely because he's playing a game of chicken with Erik Larsen to see who can have the longest running independent comic in publication
>keeps threatening to make another Spawn movie, even though the character hasn't be relevant for nearly 30 years.
I SEE YOU Neil, go keep watching clips of your wife being fricked in the mouth
Cant hate someone you don't think about much.
I don't hate todd he's just a terrible writer
Todd is Mr. Rah Rah Creators Rights, who's notoriously famous for screwing Neil Gaiman out of the rights of characters he created in Spawn and the guy who actually owned Miracleman/Marvelman
I never got how this is meant to be a gotcha. Clearly there's a difference between getting rhe rights to your own characters and creating characters meant to be derivative of that universe. The whole issue was never McFarlane denying credit or money, it was that Gaiman felt it wasn't enough.
Because he would constantly speak for other creators like a Ditko or a Kirby and say they were being screwed over in same way and reasoning he actually did to Neil.
And let's be real, the entire Spawn mythos, the conceit of the toy line was built off of what Neil introduced in issue #9.
Todd is kind of the James Cameron of comics. Working class Canadian boy with the drive to succeed. The main differences are that Jim is more respected artistically and Todd has managed to have a working marriage.
oddly on point, I think the two have even met because todd his the avatar toys
did*
He's the Don Bluth of comics.