Cheap to make means low risk.
Low risk means every greedy corporate israelite wants to produce them.
And wannabe filmmakers will make anything their masters tell them to because they're too stupid to know they're stupid.
Because shitty horror is cheap and easy. Real horror is hard.
Crap like ‘Terrifier’, ‘Hostel’ and ‘House of a thousand corpses’ can be trapped out by any halfwit. Torture porn is for morons.
Real horror like ‘Ravenous’ or the first ‘Saw’ movie are hard to make because they require intelligence and courage to create.
It is unbelievable how good the first Saw is in comparison to everything after. israelites have to ruin everything. Texas Chainsaw is another great example
weirdly enough next generation is my favorite. makes sense though. a fresh idea for a movie needs a good script to be greenlit. investors have a hard time putting up money for anything that isn't an established franchise. so the script better knock some socks off. but once the ball is rolling and they know fans will watch whatever they put out then writers and plot become secondary. just gotta hit all the major points that made the original a success over and over until the well runs dry.
showed my gf Saw for the first time and I managed to keep my lips pursed about the twist and her mind was blown, she thought it was one of the best movie twists she'd ever seen
Horror fans suck, essentially. They're obsessed with "horror comedies", self indulgent camp, trite bullshit like clowns or dolls, or - just maybe - they consider themselves transgressive enough to watch low budget torture porn. It's all trash.
And then, once in a while, something comes around that isn't trash and it is immediate dismissed by users here for trying to hard.
i want a modern version of a movie like Jacob's Ladder, one of my favorite horror movies for sure, need to combine that schizoid delusion with the nightmarish imagery
I think sometimes horror has a similar problem as professional wrestling or comic books. The fans became the creators and their output is derivative, too reverent, to afraid of being original and modern.
It was a shittier Nightmare on Elm Street at the end of the day mixed with a few modern tropes like It Follows, The Ring, Final Destination, etc. Really weak movie overall outside the ending.
Lumley’s Necroscope is pretty good, stay the frick away from the sequels though.
Brian Herbert does some great stuff although he drifted away from pure horror after a while.
>Noooo not the heckin' horror films! They are so heckin' lowbrow and dumb, where are all the metaphors!? How am I gonna make a video essay on this!? Give me some elevated horror, for REAL mature high IQ adults like me who like, fricking love science and watch like, adult cartoons that say FRICK because it's FRICKING mature!
normies: >I need a plot! I need a puzzle to solve! I need famous actors! It must NOT challenge me!
those able to process abstract art: >Mmm yes the colours are exquisite. The way the blood explodes across the canvas. I form my thoughts free from the prisons of conformity. Nothing challenges me anymore. Violence does not need an excuse.
its always been full of hacks trying to go for a quick buck but there is also the opposite of people with very good ideas and its cheap to make something interesting by being obscure, gory and a little crazy
horror quickly became synonym with campy. which isn't a bad thing per se. but it also meant that the average bar for the genre is much lower than for basically any other genre, comedy included. a lot of things that wouldn't normally get a pass such as shitty acting, bad special effects and plot contrivances get a pass here.
a prime example of this is the original suspiria (which I found ok). one guy gets killed by his dog biting his neck and it's a terrible socket muppet that murder him, but no one acknowledges this. in fact I've seen peoplepraising this scene.
tl;dr: horror is often (not always) literal shit, and horror fans like it because of this, althugh they are rarely honest enough to admit it
Because a lot of horror movies are actually Satanic rituals which is why the demon ALWAYS wins.
>the demon ALWAYS wins.
Explain the Conjuring movies. Not the shitty spin-offs, the main movies. Jesus wins in all of those
Cheap to make means low risk.
Low risk means every greedy corporate israelite wants to produce them.
And wannabe filmmakers will make anything their masters tell them to because they're too stupid to know they're stupid.
Easy: horror fans have woefully low IQs, so movies made for them, the horror fans, are the equivalent of an adult jangling keys for a baby.
smile was a pretty enjoyable modern horror, good tension with a solid climax and great monster reveal
Because shitty horror is cheap and easy. Real horror is hard.
Crap like ‘Terrifier’, ‘Hostel’ and ‘House of a thousand corpses’ can be trapped out by any halfwit. Torture porn is for morons.
Real horror like ‘Ravenous’ or the first ‘Saw’ movie are hard to make because they require intelligence and courage to create.
It is unbelievable how good the first Saw is in comparison to everything after. israelites have to ruin everything. Texas Chainsaw is another great example
weirdly enough next generation is my favorite. makes sense though. a fresh idea for a movie needs a good script to be greenlit. investors have a hard time putting up money for anything that isn't an established franchise. so the script better knock some socks off. but once the ball is rolling and they know fans will watch whatever they put out then writers and plot become secondary. just gotta hit all the major points that made the original a success over and over until the well runs dry.
Saw was psychological horror, every sequel has been torture porn with a dash of soap opera. Like I said, writing smart horror is hard.
showed my gf Saw for the first time and I managed to keep my lips pursed about the twist and her mind was blown, she thought it was one of the best movie twists she'd ever seen
low IQ here. I love horror movies and this movie. get fricked smart-Os
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx3vyYHf_5M
It would work better as a horror comedy.
Horror fans suck, essentially. They're obsessed with "horror comedies", self indulgent camp, trite bullshit like clowns or dolls, or - just maybe - they consider themselves transgressive enough to watch low budget torture porn. It's all trash.
And then, once in a while, something comes around that isn't trash and it is immediate dismissed by users here for trying to hard.
i want a modern version of a movie like Jacob's Ladder, one of my favorite horror movies for sure, need to combine that schizoid delusion with the nightmarish imagery
I think sometimes horror has a similar problem as professional wrestling or comic books. The fans became the creators and their output is derivative, too reverent, to afraid of being original and modern.
Low budgets mean low barrier to entry so there is a high volume of bad movies in the genre. There is good stuff though. Diamonds in the rough.
There is the other end of spectrum of snobs who pretend to like horror, You know shit like Scream.
True. Speaking of scream, when you think about it, Scream is not even a horror movie. It's a thriller.
Smile was fun you goof. Movies can be fun, they don't all have to be high concept masterpieces.
Smile is rather high concept itself.
you should look up what high concept means, because its not what you think
didnt watch this but read the plot synopsis and it sounded pretty scary.
of all the horror movies to rip into Smile is an odd pic, it has a classic vibe to it and the monster is horrific
It was a shittier Nightmare on Elm Street at the end of the day mixed with a few modern tropes like It Follows, The Ring, Final Destination, etc. Really weak movie overall outside the ending.
It got taken over by people who never read horror books. And frick no I don't mean Stephen King.
what are some good horror books besides stephen king?
Lumley’s Necroscope is pretty good, stay the frick away from the sequels though.
Brian Herbert does some great stuff although he drifted away from pure horror after a while.
It Follows is pretty good if you ignore all the pseuds wanking on about deeper meanings.
It's hard to turn a gimmick into an actual story.
>Noooo not the heckin' horror films! They are so heckin' lowbrow and dumb, where are all the metaphors!? How am I gonna make a video essay on this!? Give me some elevated horror, for REAL mature high IQ adults like me who like, fricking love science and watch like, adult cartoons that say FRICK because it's FRICKING mature!
Just say you enjoy slop and move on, anon. Horror is inherently a slop genre.
Just say that you are a pseud homosexual and move on
You literally add nothing of value to the conversation. Consider killing yourself.
normies:
>I need a plot! I need a puzzle to solve! I need famous actors! It must NOT challenge me!
those able to process abstract art:
>Mmm yes the colours are exquisite. The way the blood explodes across the canvas. I form my thoughts free from the prisons of conformity. Nothing challenges me anymore. Violence does not need an excuse.
>several anons consider Smile good
Well, there's your answer OP why try when the bar is that low
Pseud thread, stay in your /film/ containment thread, gays.
>go to Cinemaphile,/v/,/tv/
>post an objectively great anime, game, movie
>say how shit it is
>guaranteed replies
Cinemaphiles is an edgy reddit
its always been full of hacks trying to go for a quick buck but there is also the opposite of people with very good ideas and its cheap to make something interesting by being obscure, gory and a little crazy
horror quickly became synonym with campy. which isn't a bad thing per se. but it also meant that the average bar for the genre is much lower than for basically any other genre, comedy included. a lot of things that wouldn't normally get a pass such as shitty acting, bad special effects and plot contrivances get a pass here.
a prime example of this is the original suspiria (which I found ok). one guy gets killed by his dog biting his neck and it's a terrible socket muppet that murder him, but no one acknowledges this. in fact I've seen peoplepraising this scene.
tl;dr: horror is often (not always) literal shit, and horror fans like it because of this, althugh they are rarely honest enough to admit it