They didn't mention any ages. I would guess she's about 24, but she is childish so maybe a little older. >The wiki keeps changing her age every day because they can't decide
Sailor Moon is the most socially acceptable anime for a girl who doesn't actually watch anime to like.
My sister has a chibi usa keychain and doesn't even know the character by name.
It was the most accessible anime for girls in the 90s/early 00s besides pokemon. The only other magical girl shows you could see on tv were CCS or Tokyo Mew Mew and neither of them captured western audiences like Sailor Moon did.
>UGH why do normies only reference CLASSIC anime???? >UGH why don't they reference NEW anime like shitty Isekai #3495 or shitty romcom #9974?????
Shut the frick up weeb nobody gives a shit
I'm more confussed on the implication of that statement. Sailor moon is only like 30 years so what is the cut off there for the idea of it being "classic". Like there's some more contemporary stuff that came out 20 years ago and still isn't referenced in anime. Like at what point does an anime become classic by this definition because the ramification of such a discussion echos out.
Yeah about 20 years will do it. Star Wars ANH was a classic movie by 1997, Anchorman’s been classic for a bit now at only 19 years old, Oblivion is a classic video game at 17 years old, Dark Souls begins to qualify at merely 12 years old. Yeah sure 20’ll do it
So is Harahi Suzamia a classic anime because it came out 17 years ago?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Both haruhi and sailor moon are definite classics for setting a "standard"
8 months ago
Anonymous
Don’t say that anon… surely it’s only 8 years old.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Are there any Haruhi/Code geass/Gurren lagann references in cartoons?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Oh anon, that would imply that millilal creators watched anime that wasn't just airing on toonami. Of course there isn't, at least any major ones.
Aside from maybe Gurren Lagann were Samurai Jack borrowed one of it's endings.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Gurren lagann
Yes, it's maybe the most-referenced of the 2000s anime just because of Kamina's glasses. >Haruhi/Code geass
Not even a single one so far as I'm aware, which is weird because the age of the writers and creators making most modern cartoons would put them at the perfect age to have seen these during their peak manias.
>n and doesn't even know the character by name.
Motherfricker you know they were complaining because it's always the same one. There are like a hundred other classic anime they could reference.
Because Sailor Moon's design is peak >high school girl >tiny skirt >legs for days >heels >pigtails for handlebars >innocent enough for moms to accept >loose enough for dads to lust over
Like what? The main girl in the shit you posted is a tween and has gorillion frilly outfits unsuitable for a 30 year old woman to wear.
Tokyo Mew Mew is a joke. There's no other magical girl as iconic and recognizable as sailor moon, none of them even come close. Also Fiona literally looks like sailor moon, the original one even has the same bunny ears motif.
While I agree with you for the most part, this >The main girl in the shit you posted is a tween and has gorillion frilly outfits unsuitable for a 30 year old woman to wear.
doesn't really make sense either because the outfit they gave her isn't exactly practical. That and, you know, it's a dream so does practicality really matter?
Otherwise everything else lines up, especially the rabbit ear motif. It's a shoe in, even.
Sailor Moon, was one of the very, very few anime you could watch on TV back then. It was pretty much this and Pokemon. So naturally it gets referenced all the time by cartoonists who grew up with it.
winx club references 70s anime and is the biggest western cartoon for girls ever, american creators are just moronic homosexuals who can't watch anything beyond sailor moon and dragonball
Because Sailor Moon's design is peak >high school girl >tiny skirt >legs for days >heels >pigtails for handlebars >innocent enough for moms to accept >loose enough for dads to lust over
It's weird how those girls were mostly 14 year olds but had lives of adult women, I remember that episode with Venus and her love triangle in London or some shit like what
They were in their second year of college in the last season, putting their minimum age at 19, and the wiki suggests that the new season will be set with them being another year older. The Totally Spies are all totally legal by the series end.
>Usagi is in middle school until the fourth or fifth series.
Hey anon, I know reading is hard but check it out
Because Sailor Moon's design is peak >high school girl >tiny skirt >legs for days >heels >pigtails for handlebars >innocent enough for moms to accept >loose enough for dads to lust over
It's perfection.
>Because Sailor Moon's design is peak
Notice how I'm talking about the design of Sailor Moon the character and not the age of Usagi the character? Sit the frick down.
Yeah it gives a generic schoolgirl/magical girl reference without having to know too much of either. You could try a CCS reference but *which* costume and would the viewer get it?
Sailor Moon, was one of the very, very few anime you could watch on TV back then. It was pretty much this and Pokemon. So naturally it gets referenced all the time by cartoonists who grew up with it.
When people ask this I assume they must be young because yeah at one point your only options were DBZ, Pokemon and SM until you discovered toonami and adult swim.
Because the network execs will only approve shit they understand, because they assume that if they don't get the reference no one else will. Dragonball and Sailor Moon are the only anime that people of that age group are vaguely aware exists, so a reference to those 'makes sense' to them. They wouldn't approve an explicit Evangelion reference because they've never heard of it, much less a reference to anything remotely obscure or even more recent but still massively popular like Naruto
NARUTO is 'too recent' an anime for these dinosaurs to know exists.
It really, really isn't. The closest thing to Sailor Moon in magical girl shows is the precure franchise, which is actually quite different in tone and style. Even ignoring the obvious counterpoint of 'dark magical girl shows', of which there are many, there are still plenty of magical girls that are nothing like Sailor Moon.
The basics and themes and tropes are still there. You can pretend it's different but they all have the same DNA. That's all anime and manga is. They see one thing that's popular and then dozens of copies come out until people get tired. At best they'll put their own spin on it. At worst it's so shameless you'd think a lawsuit was coming.
I'm talking about the magical girl genre that is nothing but cute girls spending a minute every episode in stock henshin sequences to be clothed in frilly dresses and announce their attacks in their never ending battle against generic forces of evil as they stand up for love and humanity. This is just another case of people whining about a western series doing what Japan has done nonstop for decades.
While some of them are similar there are plnty that tried to differentiate by touching different themes or subjects or by having a prolific director with an unique vision, like Utena did which can't be said about almost any of girl oriented Cinemaphile shows.
Yeah, thats mostly not a thing outside of precure.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09mEDCqSx4
Hell, it wasn't even true *in the 90s*, Cardcaptor Sakura has exactly zero transformation sequences and no villains, despite running for more than 50 episodes.
Sorry dude, but you are objectively just wrong.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cutey Honey would like to have a word with you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
theres no villians in sakura? what happens then?
8 months ago
Anonymous
She just solves incidents caused by rogue clow cards. No character really challenges her
8 months ago
Anonymous
Think Yo-Kai Watch except with stalker lesbians, gay men, and a 40 year old dating a 10 year old.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The first arc of the show is Sakura and her friends tracking down magical forces that have been accidentally released into the world. She usually finds them causing some kind of problem, has to puzzle out how to get them under control or beat them, and then she adds them to her collection. Which means that, almost every episode, Sakura gets a new power, and best of all its stuff that she actually remembers she has in future episodes. The cards are explicitly not evil, and in fact most of them end up on friendly terms with her after she has collected them and will even activate themselves in her defense sometimes without her even asking them to.
The second arc of the show seems to have an evil wizard thing going on causing trouble for her specifically, but really he's just a sort of magical failsafe for anyone who inherits the cards that challenges them to actually use the magic and make it their own. For most of the show she is basically just borrowing the magic of a previous wizard, but by the end of the second arc she is a legitimate magical apprentice and can even make new cards of her own.
So you get to the end of the show and there's just... no actual villains in it. Problems that she has to solve, but no bad guys. Its actually kind of unique in that regard.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>theres no villians in sakura? what happens then?
Pokemon with magic cards. Gotta catch em all.
Then the leader of the Magic Gym challenges her to a duel where she'll earn her Clow Badge.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah, thats mostly not a thing outside of precure.
That's a barefaced lie. Even Jap parodies/deconstructions like Madoka this shit.
I never read the manga, but the basic format and episodic formula of the Sailor Moon anime, compete with monsters of the week, one episode friends and enemy generals is pretty much liftes from Super Sentai.
That’s the premise. The creator was a fan of shows like Power Rangers so wanted to make a version of it with girls. And she put them in sailor outfits because that was her editor’s fetish.
Really, I guess you could trace all that shit to Cyborg 009. Super Sendai and Kamen Raider we’re just left over ideas Ishinomori had lying around from Cyborg 009 and Gemma Wars.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>she put them in sailor outfits because that was her editor’s fetish.
dare I say, based?
Man, Symphogear was so moronicly good, im really happy i picked it up immediately back when it started. The lack of budget was part of the charm, but boy it was wild fricking ride to see it develop from that to what it ended as.
For other magical girls, they usually try to avoid the sailor fuku transformation design specifically because Sailor Moon is so popular and prolific, you can't rip it off without looking lame.
>you can't rip it off without looking lame
What they usually do is make it mundane or obvious that it's copying from it. Kind of like someone making a meta joke about a lame trope while still doing it. It's actually more shameless in isekai. The people making those don't give a frick.
And Macross and GoLion and 8 Man and Gigantor and Gatchaman and Cutey Honey and Dirty Pair and Urotsukidoji and Hokuto No Ken and Lupin 3rd and all things Ghibli and Injū Gakuen La Blue Girl and
Man, it blows my mind that there are more Urotsukidoji and Blue Girl references in Western media than Fist of the North Star or One Piece references.
And all those references are completely dwarfed by Sailor Moon references. And the most famous Sailor Moon reference is from a Bare Naked Ladies song.
at least with Fionna it's not just a cheap surface level reference, Natasha Allegri had Usagi as one of Fionna's primary influences from basically the day she figured out Fionna's standard design back in those mystical days when she and a bunch of other Adventure Time & Steven Universe crew members would visit Cinemaphile
>That's just PPGZ
not really, PPGZ was actually pretty shit in the action department
This is just spastic. They spin and throw lights at it and the monster no-sells every attack. So much wasted budget on motion with no pay off. Their attacks look like they're shining a flashlight at it.
Even pro-wrestlers know of your character supposedly doesn't feel pain, you still have to react to the hit like you were hit.
Its a crossover movie, anon. The whole point is that each group and character is doing their big this-ends-the-battle special move, and none of them hurt it. Its a stakes-raising sequence.
They don't look like "this ends the battle" moves. It looks like a colored light and like the monster is "no-selling" it. Not "it's immune". I mean it looks like the attacks don't do anything and the monster is a bad actor who doesn't know he's supposed to at least cover his eyes so the light doesn't bother them.
Is this shit supposed to look impressive or something? It's just the same squiggly lines and nausea-inducing spastic animation I've seen in countless other le sakoog webms spammed on this board by moronic weebs, they all look the same by this point. I'm also willing to bet that action scenes like this are less than 1% of the show's runtime, and the rest of it consists of slow pans on the backgrounds, close-ups of the girls' faces with their mouths flapping like a fish for 5 minutes straight and their oversized eyeballs getting a seizure whenever something shocking happens, and other bullshit ""animation"" shortcuts meant to distract from the fact that like every other Jap cartoon it's nothing more than a glorified slideshow.
Black person not only you've posted one of the most boring ass cartoons ever but your opinion is also trash just like the shitty sitcoms you call cartoons.
>I'm also willing to bet that action scenes like this are less than 1% of the show's runtime
You would be correct, since this is actually from a movie.
If nothing else we would get better action sequences.
Yeah, thats mostly not a thing outside of precure.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09mEDCqSx4
Hell, it wasn't even true *in the 90s*, Cardcaptor Sakura has exactly zero transformation sequences and no villains, despite running for more than 50 episodes.
You never had a naked beach dream? Sucks to be you. Shit in dreams tends to be more appealing than shit when it actually happens in real life. Or less appealing. Dreams are often the product of extremes.
when are we going to stop acting so incredulous and indignant at references to basic era media? In fact, why is almost every thread on Cinemaphile someone angry in confusion asking why something is the way it is? It’s like you just get confused at something and need help figuring out why you’re mad for no reason at it. Pointless
>expecting American Gen X'ers to have an encyclopedic knowledge of anime after 2009
The best you'll get is a Death Note tribute and nothing more. Cope.
No, he's right. Just because anime has upskirts doesn't mean it's good. I'm not going to say XJ-9 is the pinnacle of animation but at least when she shot something to establish shooting wouldn't work, the huge waste of time was done with comedic timing instead of asking you to take it dead seriously.
>comedic timing instead of asking you to take it dead seriously.
You don't say. Man 99% of all cartoons are comedies of course she did with a comedic timing but her cartoon is shit. Characters from precure have more development in 1 episode than jenny has in her whole show.
I kind of doubt that. If you want to establish that this blob is very strong, then it could just flatten one of the girls. They all look the same and their attacks are different colored lights, the show can probably go on.
Unless you want to say we should take the anime seriously, but not THAT seriously because it's not some kind of drama or commentary on the brutality of conflict or whatever.
Like at its core, you know the girls will all prevail and chirp at a high cutesy pitch and eat cakes.
>They all look the same
The girls? Not in the slightest, are you color blind? Anyways I don't care about that specific scene since I haven't watched that movie but I did watch some of the precure series and I had an easy time taking them serious.
At this point do you even have a stance beyond "I don't like THING and I'll switch to whatever argument I need to to keep being mad about it?" You are all over the place. You can't decide whether you are upset about the speed of the animation, or the lack of comedic timing in a non-comedic scene, or the bright colors, or a completely unrelated slice of life moe show.
You are just... generically upset. Nondescriptly mad. Someone cast as an extra told to yell upset-sounding things in the background.
There is more than one anon in the thread saying the posted animation doesn't look that good.
>They all look the same
The girls? Not in the slightest, are you color blind? Anyways I don't care about that specific scene since I haven't watched that movie but I did watch some of the precure series and I had an easy time taking them serious.
I can't really speak about the maturity of this show since I haven't watched it, but the webm posted doesn't scream "wow such high stakes". It looks like generic anime stuff and I guess at best they're using a bunch of "abilities" which at this point is just saying, "remember this? This ability is powerful but it doesn't work on this nondescript shadow creature so you know it's bad!"
To me it just looks like there's a lot of motion, and then some neon flashlights get shined on the thing, and I'm not thinking this show is special somehow.
You know in Japan they generally view this stuff as being for kids, right? Like this is Cinemaphile, you can pike kid's cartoons, but pets not pretend every monster of the week cartoon is someone's magnum opus.
>I can't really speak about the maturity of this show since I haven't watched it,
Then don't talk about it lol. > It looks like generic anime stuff
So characters fighting is generic anime stuff? Ok, that tells me a lot about your industry. Anyways I don't care about the movie since I haven't watched it. >You know in Japan they generally view this stuff as being for kids, right? Like this is Cinemaphile, you can pike kid's cartoons, but pets not pretend every monster of the week cartoon is someone's magnum opus.
I don't give a frick. It's an entertaining show and 100 better than mlaatr
it was the entry-level anime for a lot of basic white women working in animation right now in the same way that Dragon Ball Z was the basic entry level anime for a lot of basic men working in animation right now
More like the only one thats readily iconic. Wish that other female targeted shows during the same time get more shine like CCS, Fushigi yugi, Escaflowne, Magic Knight Rayearth
thing is when certain anime got imported to the U.S. in the old days, they were subject to censoring and butchering because the FCC and S&P barely had an inkling how those shows work in Japan.
Entry level anime much like DBZ, Macross and Speed Racer. If you were alive in America throughout much of the 90s, you've likely seen this show, whether it was on Toonami or a different network. If you were on the internet in the Y2K era, you've probably tons of those DBZxSailor porn crossovers, aka DragonmoonX
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Cure Black and Cure White would be super easy to reference, as the first two precures of the first season!
the theme song is catchy and has nice action moments that can be referenced.
For all the cartoon lesbians, the first season has girls that can only transform while holding hands, so they can reference parts from that scene if they want to.
I heard Precure's english dubs didn't get very popular though (there was that Canadian dub in the 2000s, and Glitter Force which existing fans are mixed about, and it's only on a streaming service), so the series didn't really get picked up in popularity in the anglosphere.
The only western country in the whole world that is showing the new All Stars movie is fricking Italy, the anglosphere is doomed, we're not getting references since all american Precure watchers are autists watching it illegally online as adults and not normies who grew up on it on TV as kids
Once again, Americans are not creative and only look up to Chinese cartoons.
she is 30
Actually she was only 29 anon
They didn't mention any ages. I would guess she's about 24, but she is childish so maybe a little older.
>The wiki keeps changing her age every day because they can't decide
Sailor Moon is the most socially acceptable anime for a girl who doesn't actually watch anime to like.
My sister has a chibi usa keychain and doesn't even know the character by name.
>Why does a show written by middle aged, single, urban women have shit writing?
Jee, who knows
It was the most accessible anime for girls in the 90s/early 00s besides pokemon. The only other magical girl shows you could see on tv were CCS or Tokyo Mew Mew and neither of them captured western audiences like Sailor Moon did.
>UGH why do normies only reference CLASSIC anime????
>UGH why don't they reference NEW anime like shitty Isekai #3495 or shitty romcom #9974?????
Shut the frick up weeb nobody gives a shit
>Sailor Moon
>Classic
Huh?
stupid ass
You would think a 30 year old anime is a classic one
I'm more confussed on the implication of that statement. Sailor moon is only like 30 years so what is the cut off there for the idea of it being "classic". Like there's some more contemporary stuff that came out 20 years ago and still isn't referenced in anime. Like at what point does an anime become classic by this definition because the ramification of such a discussion echos out.
Yeah about 20 years will do it. Star Wars ANH was a classic movie by 1997, Anchorman’s been classic for a bit now at only 19 years old, Oblivion is a classic video game at 17 years old, Dark Souls begins to qualify at merely 12 years old. Yeah sure 20’ll do it
So is Harahi Suzamia a classic anime because it came out 17 years ago?
Both haruhi and sailor moon are definite classics for setting a "standard"
Don’t say that anon… surely it’s only 8 years old.
Are there any Haruhi/Code geass/Gurren lagann references in cartoons?
Oh anon, that would imply that millilal creators watched anime that wasn't just airing on toonami. Of course there isn't, at least any major ones.
Aside from maybe Gurren Lagann were Samurai Jack borrowed one of it's endings.
>Gurren lagann
Yes, it's maybe the most-referenced of the 2000s anime just because of Kamina's glasses.
>Haruhi/Code geass
Not even a single one so far as I'm aware, which is weird because the age of the writers and creators making most modern cartoons would put them at the perfect age to have seen these during their peak manias.
Anon, I know you aren't this dumb.
Yes you fricking moron.
Really homie?
He's got to be fricking around, no one can be that much of a nitwit.
>n and doesn't even know the character by name.
Motherfricker you know they were complaining because it's always the same one. There are like a hundred other classic anime they could reference.
I do agree with this.
Clearly the writers do
Literally this. This is supposed to be a 30 year old girl. She isn't a zoomer
Anon zoomers are 27
26 actually. Gen Z’s 1997-2012.
Pretty sure it's 26. You can't remember 9/11 much as a 2 year old
26, my brother is 6 years older than me and he's the cut off. Still though same difference.
Zillennials
t. guy who CLAPS every time he hears mozart in an elevator
t. Saileri
LOL
There are other classic anime, even in the magical girl genre.
Like what? The main girl in the shit you posted is a tween and has gorillion frilly outfits unsuitable for a 30 year old woman to wear.
Tokyo Mew Mew is a joke. There's no other magical girl as iconic and recognizable as sailor moon, none of them even come close. Also Fiona literally looks like sailor moon, the original one even has the same bunny ears motif.
While I agree with you for the most part, this
>The main girl in the shit you posted is a tween and has gorillion frilly outfits unsuitable for a 30 year old woman to wear.
doesn't really make sense either because the outfit they gave her isn't exactly practical. That and, you know, it's a dream so does practicality really matter?
Otherwise everything else lines up, especially the rabbit ear motif. It's a shoe in, even.
It's not about practicality, it's about not making the protagonist look like a degenerate with ageplay fetish.
winx club references 70s anime and is the biggest western cartoon for girls ever, american creators are just moronic homosexuals who can't watch anything beyond sailor moon and dragonball
i have never seen references to true classic anime
>using tamers for such a low tier post
Disgusting, b***h
Because that's the only anime 30 year old woman children actually watched.
because Sailor Scouts are hotter than Powerpuff Girls.
Because Sailor Moon's design is peak
>high school girl
>tiny skirt
>legs for days
>heels
>pigtails for handlebars
>innocent enough for moms to accept
>loose enough for dads to lust over
It's perfection.
Usagi is in middle school until the fourth or fifth series.
And?
Usagi is in the Best Western just off the Vegas strip getting her back blown out by a room full of 60 year old mobsters.
It's weird how those girls were mostly 14 year olds but had lives of adult women, I remember that episode with Venus and her love triangle in London or some shit like what
They’re 14 for marketing purposes.
Same as Totally Spies.
They were 14 in that show?
Season 1, yeah.
They age forward every season.
They were in their second year of college in the last season, putting their minimum age at 19, and the wiki suggests that the new season will be set with them being another year older. The Totally Spies are all totally legal by the series end.
>Usagi is in middle school until the fourth or fifth series.
Hey anon, I know reading is hard but check it out
>Because Sailor Moon's design is peak
Notice how I'm talking about the design of Sailor Moon the character and not the age of Usagi the character? Sit the frick down.
You call her a high school girl in your first point
thE aGe Of teH cAHractEr iS KEY To hEr DesIGn!!
>inb4
>this but unironically
So perfectly fine though could be bit younger?
Naah, still damn fine.
So was Panda.
Tell that to Barenaked Ladies
final chapter has Usagi and Mamoru in bed postcoitus
Yeah it gives a generic schoolgirl/magical girl reference without having to know too much of either. You could try a CCS reference but *which* costume and would the viewer get it?
This is so true my childhood sexual fantasy was sailor moon for the longest time lewwwwwdddddd slurp slurp slurp
>Legs for days
about that...
I know Madoka's head was big, but next to Usagi like that... it's really big!
WIDE
Sailor Moon, was one of the very, very few anime you could watch on TV back then. It was pretty much this and Pokemon. So naturally it gets referenced all the time by cartoonists who grew up with it.
When people ask this I assume they must be young because yeah at one point your only options were DBZ, Pokemon and SM until you discovered toonami and adult swim.
there was also Yoroiden Samurai Troopers a.k.a. Ronin Warriors but it often aired in the dead zone hours.
You made
Post this from his phone. Good job creating another phoneposter.
Because the network execs will only approve shit they understand, because they assume that if they don't get the reference no one else will. Dragonball and Sailor Moon are the only anime that people of that age group are vaguely aware exists, so a reference to those 'makes sense' to them. They wouldn't approve an explicit Evangelion reference because they've never heard of it, much less a reference to anything remotely obscure or even more recent but still massively popular like Naruto
NARUTO is 'too recent' an anime for these dinosaurs to know exists.
Nobody gives a shit about madoka zoomer
Japan has been copying Sailor Moon for decades to the point that the entire magical girl genre is just Sailor Moon knockoffs.
It really, really isn't. The closest thing to Sailor Moon in magical girl shows is the precure franchise, which is actually quite different in tone and style. Even ignoring the obvious counterpoint of 'dark magical girl shows', of which there are many, there are still plenty of magical girls that are nothing like Sailor Moon.
The basics and themes and tropes are still there. You can pretend it's different but they all have the same DNA. That's all anime and manga is. They see one thing that's popular and then dozens of copies come out until people get tired. At best they'll put their own spin on it. At worst it's so shameless you'd think a lawsuit was coming.
That's basically all media. My man 99% of cartoons are all comedies that copy from each other, I don't think it's your place to complain.
I'm talking about the magical girl genre that is nothing but cute girls spending a minute every episode in stock henshin sequences to be clothed in frilly dresses and announce their attacks in their never ending battle against generic forces of evil as they stand up for love and humanity. This is just another case of people whining about a western series doing what Japan has done nonstop for decades.
While some of them are similar there are plnty that tried to differentiate by touching different themes or subjects or by having a prolific director with an unique vision, like Utena did which can't be said about almost any of girl oriented Cinemaphile shows.
Yeah, thats mostly not a thing outside of precure.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09mEDCqSx4
Hell, it wasn't even true *in the 90s*, Cardcaptor Sakura has exactly zero transformation sequences and no villains, despite running for more than 50 episodes.
Sorry dude, but you are objectively just wrong.
Cutey Honey would like to have a word with you.
theres no villians in sakura? what happens then?
She just solves incidents caused by rogue clow cards. No character really challenges her
Think Yo-Kai Watch except with stalker lesbians, gay men, and a 40 year old dating a 10 year old.
The first arc of the show is Sakura and her friends tracking down magical forces that have been accidentally released into the world. She usually finds them causing some kind of problem, has to puzzle out how to get them under control or beat them, and then she adds them to her collection. Which means that, almost every episode, Sakura gets a new power, and best of all its stuff that she actually remembers she has in future episodes. The cards are explicitly not evil, and in fact most of them end up on friendly terms with her after she has collected them and will even activate themselves in her defense sometimes without her even asking them to.
The second arc of the show seems to have an evil wizard thing going on causing trouble for her specifically, but really he's just a sort of magical failsafe for anyone who inherits the cards that challenges them to actually use the magic and make it their own. For most of the show she is basically just borrowing the magic of a previous wizard, but by the end of the second arc she is a legitimate magical apprentice and can even make new cards of her own.
So you get to the end of the show and there's just... no actual villains in it. Problems that she has to solve, but no bad guys. Its actually kind of unique in that regard.
>theres no villians in sakura? what happens then?
Pokemon with magic cards. Gotta catch em all.
Then the leader of the Magic Gym challenges her to a duel where she'll earn her Clow Badge.
>Yeah, thats mostly not a thing outside of precure.
That's a barefaced lie. Even Jap parodies/deconstructions like Madoka this shit.
I never read the manga, but the basic format and episodic formula of the Sailor Moon anime, compete with monsters of the week, one episode friends and enemy generals is pretty much liftes from Super Sentai.
There's a reason why the biggest Magic girl franchise is made by the same company that makes Super Sentai.
Then it turns into something out of Doctor Strange and Hellblazer
i remember people calling sailor moon "power rangers for girls" even.
That’s the premise. The creator was a fan of shows like Power Rangers so wanted to make a version of it with girls. And she put them in sailor outfits because that was her editor’s fetish.
Really, I guess you could trace all that shit to Cyborg 009. Super Sendai and Kamen Raider we’re just left over ideas Ishinomori had lying around from Cyborg 009 and Gemma Wars.
>she put them in sailor outfits because that was her editor’s fetish.
dare I say, based?
Sailor Moon didn't invent the format.
It didn't even single-handely popularize it, either.
Man, Symphogear was so moronicly good, im really happy i picked it up immediately back when it started. The lack of budget was part of the charm, but boy it was wild fricking ride to see it develop from that to what it ended as.
For other magical girls, they usually try to avoid the sailor fuku transformation design specifically because Sailor Moon is so popular and prolific, you can't rip it off without looking lame.
>you can't rip it off without looking lame
What they usually do is make it mundane or obvious that it's copying from it. Kind of like someone making a meta joke about a lame trope while still doing it. It's actually more shameless in isekai. The people making those don't give a frick.
Because you can tell what it is, even if you never watched the show. Is like asking why a Super Hero parody would look like Superman in most cases.
Dumbass, the only animes in existence are Sailormoon, Pokemon, and Dragonball.
You forgot Speed Racer.
And Astro Boy
And Macross and GoLion and 8 Man and Gigantor and Gatchaman and Cutey Honey and Dirty Pair and Urotsukidoji and Hokuto No Ken and Lupin 3rd and all things Ghibli and Injū Gakuen La Blue Girl and
No western animator is aware that Macross exists, because Harmony Gold blocked it from releasing in the states.
Man, it blows my mind that there are more Urotsukidoji and Blue Girl references in Western media than Fist of the North Star or One Piece references.
And all those references are completely dwarfed by Sailor Moon references. And the most famous Sailor Moon reference is from a Bare Naked Ladies song.
>the most famous Sailor Moon reference is from a Bare Naked Ladies song
never heard of em.
It's Dragon Ball for women.
Because Americans are too stupid and too fat
Pretty cute would blow their heads
>Pretty cure
its Glitter force, dumbass
Kys
It's the only magical girl anime anyone in the west knows/remembers.
It's the only magical girl content they've watched. Sometimes you'll get Cardcaptor Sakura or Madoka Magica if you're lucky.
We need to make western animators PreCure-pilled
If nothing else we would get better action sequences.
That's just PPGZ
Same studio so ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
at least with Fionna it's not just a cheap surface level reference, Natasha Allegri had Usagi as one of Fionna's primary influences from basically the day she figured out Fionna's standard design back in those mystical days when she and a bunch of other Adventure Time & Steven Universe crew members would visit Cinemaphile
>That's just PPGZ
not really, PPGZ was actually pretty shit in the action department
This is just spastic. They spin and throw lights at it and the monster no-sells every attack. So much wasted budget on motion with no pay off. Their attacks look like they're shining a flashlight at it.
Even pro-wrestlers know of your character supposedly doesn't feel pain, you still have to react to the hit like you were hit.
Its a crossover movie, anon. The whole point is that each group and character is doing their big this-ends-the-battle special move, and none of them hurt it. Its a stakes-raising sequence.
They don't look like "this ends the battle" moves. It looks like a colored light and like the monster is "no-selling" it. Not "it's immune". I mean it looks like the attacks don't do anything and the monster is a bad actor who doesn't know he's supposed to at least cover his eyes so the light doesn't bother them.
Is this shit supposed to look impressive or something? It's just the same squiggly lines and nausea-inducing spastic animation I've seen in countless other le sakoog webms spammed on this board by moronic weebs, they all look the same by this point. I'm also willing to bet that action scenes like this are less than 1% of the show's runtime, and the rest of it consists of slow pans on the backgrounds, close-ups of the girls' faces with their mouths flapping like a fish for 5 minutes straight and their oversized eyeballs getting a seizure whenever something shocking happens, and other bullshit ""animation"" shortcuts meant to distract from the fact that like every other Jap cartoon it's nothing more than a glorified slideshow.
Black person not only you've posted one of the most boring ass cartoons ever but your opinion is also trash just like the shitty sitcoms you call cartoons.
I guarantee you he hasn't even seen that show. This is a /coo/mer pretending to care about animation to get (yous) from weeaboos.
>I'm also willing to bet that action scenes like this are less than 1% of the show's runtime
You would be correct, since this is actually from a movie.
God literally prefers Basketball over this.
Because Millennial writers are stuck in time. Sailor Moon is 30 years old but these reprobate still think it's an identifiable reference.
>but these reprobate still think it's an identifiable reference.
I dont know about you, but japan still references old shit like Hokuto no Ken, golgo 13 , cat’s eye and jojo
Much like Gen X with Transformers and Voltron and Boomers with the Stooges and Peter Lorre. This change happens every fifteen years or so
Fionna’s world is 90s locked so it’s one time a Sailor Moon reference would be considered OK
Sailor Venus, Sailor Mercury, Sailor Mars, Sailor Jupiter!
She is the one named Sailor Moon!
Fiona is a long-haired blonde, so it fits. What other iconic anime character was she supposrd to parody?
It the female equivalent to Dragon Ball so when it comes to normie recognition.
Samegay seethe
dbzmind
I dunno. Why is it always DBZ on Cinemaphile? Shit's popular, what exactly were you expecting.
And yet fricking dragon Ball z is spammed on Cinemaphile that should have been banned immediately
I find it interesting that Fionna finds no apprehension in running around in a sailor outfit or thighhigh socks.
It...it was a dream, anon.
A dream she later described as wonderful.
You never had a naked beach dream? Sucks to be you. Shit in dreams tends to be more appealing than shit when it actually happens in real life. Or less appealing. Dreams are often the product of extremes.
The 1st Pretty Cure was airing on that girl orientated channel if I remember correctly.
Sailor Moon is literally the best and most transcendental one
You spelt Princess Tutu wrong.
*Princess Knight
fricking autocorrect
Now we're talking classics.
when are we going to stop acting so incredulous and indignant at references to basic era media? In fact, why is almost every thread on Cinemaphile someone angry in confusion asking why something is the way it is? It’s like you just get confused at something and need help figuring out why you’re mad for no reason at it. Pointless
>why is almost every thread on Cinemaphile someone angry in confusion asking why something is the way it is?
Safe horny
I think Paradise PD referenced my Hero Academia and Space Force talked about Full Metal Wokeamist
>Full Metal Wokeamist
> FMA
> Woke
I... what? In what world do you arrive at that making any sense?
chopping off your limbs for power is literal troony shit
What? No that's just literally a saying taken literally, "It'll cost you an arm and a leg" you know.?
everyone acknowledges what they did was wrong and violating the natural order. this is opposed to troony ideology.
>Competent female characters
>Written by a woman
>War is... le bad!
I'm being facetious
how is my hero Academia not woke? part of the setting has an allegory for racism with people with mutate quirks
There's also a scene where villains threaten someone to respect a troony character's pronouns.
When will cartoons have precure refs
>expecting American Gen X'ers to have an encyclopedic knowledge of anime after 2009
The best you'll get is a Death Note tribute and nothing more. Cope.
That's not true. We've we got a Gurren Lagann reference that one time.
People do the same with DBZ too
It’s always a DBZ reference or SM
No, he's right. Just because anime has upskirts doesn't mean it's good. I'm not going to say XJ-9 is the pinnacle of animation but at least when she shot something to establish shooting wouldn't work, the huge waste of time was done with comedic timing instead of asking you to take it dead seriously.
>comedic timing instead of asking you to take it dead seriously.
You don't say. Man 99% of all cartoons are comedies of course she did with a comedic timing but her cartoon is shit. Characters from precure have more development in 1 episode than jenny has in her whole show.
I kind of doubt that. If you want to establish that this blob is very strong, then it could just flatten one of the girls. They all look the same and their attacks are different colored lights, the show can probably go on.
Unless you want to say we should take the anime seriously, but not THAT seriously because it's not some kind of drama or commentary on the brutality of conflict or whatever.
Like at its core, you know the girls will all prevail and chirp at a high cutesy pitch and eat cakes.
>They all look the same
The girls? Not in the slightest, are you color blind? Anyways I don't care about that specific scene since I haven't watched that movie but I did watch some of the precure series and I had an easy time taking them serious.
At this point do you even have a stance beyond "I don't like THING and I'll switch to whatever argument I need to to keep being mad about it?" You are all over the place. You can't decide whether you are upset about the speed of the animation, or the lack of comedic timing in a non-comedic scene, or the bright colors, or a completely unrelated slice of life moe show.
You are just... generically upset. Nondescriptly mad. Someone cast as an extra told to yell upset-sounding things in the background.
There is more than one anon in the thread saying the posted animation doesn't look that good.
I can't really speak about the maturity of this show since I haven't watched it, but the webm posted doesn't scream "wow such high stakes". It looks like generic anime stuff and I guess at best they're using a bunch of "abilities" which at this point is just saying, "remember this? This ability is powerful but it doesn't work on this nondescript shadow creature so you know it's bad!"
To me it just looks like there's a lot of motion, and then some neon flashlights get shined on the thing, and I'm not thinking this show is special somehow.
You know in Japan they generally view this stuff as being for kids, right? Like this is Cinemaphile, you can pike kid's cartoons, but pets not pretend every monster of the week cartoon is someone's magnum opus.
>I can't really speak about the maturity of this show since I haven't watched it,
Then don't talk about it lol.
> It looks like generic anime stuff
So characters fighting is generic anime stuff? Ok, that tells me a lot about your industry. Anyways I don't care about the movie since I haven't watched it.
>You know in Japan they generally view this stuff as being for kids, right? Like this is Cinemaphile, you can pike kid's cartoons, but pets not pretend every monster of the week cartoon is someone's magnum opus.
I don't give a frick. It's an entertaining show and 100 better than mlaatr
As opposed to what, exactly? Normies recognize Sailor Moon. They're not going to recognize Lyrical Nanoha or frickin' Precure.
4kids shitting the bed with Ojomajo Doremi and Tokyo Mew Mew didn't help
it was the entry-level anime for a lot of basic white women working in animation right now in the same way that Dragon Ball Z was the basic entry level anime for a lot of basic men working in animation right now
More like the only one thats readily iconic. Wish that other female targeted shows during the same time get more shine like CCS, Fushigi yugi, Escaflowne, Magic Knight Rayearth
At least these tumblr prostitutes champion utena
thing is when certain anime got imported to the U.S. in the old days, they were subject to censoring and butchering because the FCC and S&P barely had an inkling how those shows work in Japan.
most , if not all of the tastemakers and importers of the initial anime boom are men so they are biased against shoujo
It's the only one Christians allowed their kids to watch
*throws mic at the audience*
I had no idea that Precure gays had this much of a stick up their ass.
The millennial magical girl animu is Tokyo Mew Mew, just so you know.
Only really the case for Zennials, it was Sailor Moon for everyone born before 1992
Entry level anime much like DBZ, Macross and Speed Racer. If you were alive in America throughout much of the 90s, you've likely seen this show, whether it was on Toonami or a different network. If you were on the internet in the Y2K era, you've probably tons of those DBZxSailor porn crossovers, aka DragonmoonX
>Macross
>America
[x] doubt
It actually aired here under the name Robotech
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Is Sailor Moon that good?
it has its moments
I had a lot of fun rewatching it but YMMV
Never watch it, so maybe?
It's meant to clue you in that all these shows are coming from the same source.
Because it’s girl dragonball. Dragonball is basic b***h boy intro into anime. Sailormoon is basic b***h girl intro into anime.
Cure Black and Cure White would be super easy to reference, as the first two precures of the first season!
the theme song is catchy and has nice action moments that can be referenced.
For all the cartoon lesbians, the first season has girls that can only transform while holding hands, so they can reference parts from that scene if they want to.
I heard Precure's english dubs didn't get very popular though (there was that Canadian dub in the 2000s, and Glitter Force which existing fans are mixed about, and it's only on a streaming service), so the series didn't really get picked up in popularity in the anglosphere.
PreCure really does fricking rule
The only western country in the whole world that is showing the new All Stars movie is fricking Italy, the anglosphere is doomed, we're not getting references since all american Precure watchers are autists watching it illegally online as adults and not normies who grew up on it on TV as kids
what else was airing in english
>> Cloverway Executives' face back 2000 when their efforts to turn a lesbian couple into cousins go horribly wrong.
What's wrong with Sailor Moon, senpai?