Why is it so difficult for them to make cool Star Wars stuff?
The setting is filled with so much potential, but they keep failing to live up to it. How do they keep focusing on the worst and most boring parts of the lore?
Why is it so difficult for them to make cool Star Wars stuff?
The setting is filled with so much potential, but they keep failing to live up to it. How do they keep focusing on the worst and most boring parts of the lore?
because it's a franchise fully under the control of clueless people that have never actually "liked" anything their entire life other than money and extremely prosaic real life interests and the mandates they carry out are done so by mindless sycophants that have no taste.
this
same can be said for 99.99% of the rest of hollywood
>t. director chad
Show your movies
>well akshully unless you can make a Black person baby you can't say Black folk commit crimes
learn to speak to your betters correctly you dygenic sack of trash
This and also the mindless Disney adults who keep paying to see them so they think they have some kind of audience.
If you didn't drop nu wars after tfa, you're part of the problem. Stop making threads, it's really, really pathetic at this point.
TFA was better than the prequels
maybe but it had less soul no doubt
It didn't even make any sense. Anyone who claims it's better never understood anything about star wars.
WHAT was better about it?
As a movie? Sure. But it fricking copied ANH beat for beat. To me that makes it instantly worse. At least the prequels had spirit and the designs and music all came from the right place.
I wonder how the sequels would have been received had they continued on the path TFA set up, as in remaking the original trilogy like how TFA was a new hope clone. TFA is honestly still entertaining but hollow as a movie, if the last jedi just kept someone like JJ at the helm and ripped off empire strikes back the sequels would have turned out fine most likely.
>TFA is honestly still entertaining but hollow as a movie
You probably suck your own wiener
>whoa lasers and explosions cool
This was never what was cool about Star Wars
...What do you think it was about?
Driving cars and weird aliens who play jazz
Space wizards and daddy issues
>laser sword duels
>cool space ships
>exotic alien planets and species
>space wizards
Star Wars had such cultural staying power because it implied this vast galaxy teeming with life and adventure beyond what was seen on screen. The EU, licensed video games, and even the prequels capitalized on that and filled in the details with varying degrees of quality, while mostly maintaining a sense of wonder and cohesiveness. Disney star wars has done the opposite and made the setting feel smaller and more trivial.
Every space adventure involves at least one character from the original trilogy to take advantage of maximum nostalgia points. But like you said, this makes the whole universe feel cramped.
literally that was all that was cool about it. little boys just wanted to see Darth Vader frick people up with a lightsaber. It's not that deep.
Real answer: it takes balls
Disney has no balls. And its also soulless
Ask any nerd what they would like to see in a big budget Star Wars movie and you get cool ideas like ancient jedi vs sith wars, military drama with clone/stormtroopers, space horror similar to Alien, whatever
Disney will never do anything cool with SW because they just play it safe and dumb consoomers still watch their garbage
>you get cool ideas like ancient jedi vs sith wars, military drama with clone/stormtroopers, space horror similar to Alien, whatever
None of these are cool ideas
>Real answer: it takes balls
>Disney has no balls. And its also soulless
This, applies to Marvel to after the buy-out
I love Boba Fett, if they had made a show of him dabbing on different bounties and other hunters week to week with no real overarching story it would've been better than the Mandalorian which really isn't all that great but still
What did you think about the Boba Fett show?
Because the people currently in charge of the Star Wars movies and films are NOT passionate nerds who fantasize about cool Star Wars stuff.
They're not the types who imagine tense lightsaber fights or galactic conflicts with John Williams OST playing, they don't understand exactly what it is about jedi or sith that appeals to people, they don't understand the tropes, they don't understand which movies and genres Star Wars harkens to. They're not on that wavelength. They spent their time thinking about what a certain actor would look like in advertisements, whether investors would approve of the cast or not, if a movie's villains and sidekicks and gadgets could result in good toy sales, if the movie's success could leave room for an expanded universe, things like that. They're businessmen, extroverted managers who don't really look at the setting the way a creative would. The maximum extent of an executive's "vision" of Star Wars is whether they can put self-inserts into the story regardless of whether it's a good idea (see KK with all the Reys and Jinns and Bokatans)
This, sort of. There are people who are capable of actually realizing the potential of a fictional universe, but in the corporate world they are never going to be in charge of those projects. Those spots are reserved for the climbers of the corporate ladders or directors whose expertise is closer to being a wrangler and project manager than an ideas guy.
>Using shields
money and the acquisition thereof
to get many monies corporations and their agents cut out any part of art that *might* alienate an audience in a way that diminishes the bottom line
the endless teat of garbage actively prevents interesting art
Because Star Wars isn’t cool, Disney is shit but the IP has been over since TFA.
Because they are sitting on a multibillion dollar IP and are afraid to do anything, so every decision must go through a commitee of corporate suits. The movies are only a very small part of the franchise anyway, they are like 2 hours long commercials to their toys.
>The movies are only a very small part of the franchise anyway
Yeah. Star Wars has almost always had better novels/comics/videogames than mainline movies, and today this is truer than ever before.
Yeah, I'm sure those globally popular movies that were loved for generations had nothing to do with it.
They do, but they're often limited by having to be a theme park ride for the whole family. There's parts of the movie clearly made to sell toys, and especially today big budget movies have to be designed by committee in a way that never alienates any type of viewer (to sell as many tickets as possible). But more niche types of media like books or games don't have those limitations, that's why in these types of fictional universes it's usually the side content that is best.
nu wars isn't even star wars
Nu Wars actions will never be able to top TOR trailers lol
Damn man, I was just thinking about the original one. Literally NOTHING comes close: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGDBTDnW7d0
Everyone says "They should make live action KOTOR/Old Republic movies" because of this but it is 100% guranteed the mass choreogrpahy would be TDKR level garbage given how bad Nu Wars lightsaber action scenes has been. They'll remain shit as long as they don't acknowledge people actually like Prequel-style lightsaber fight
>The setting is filled with so much potential
It doesn’t have any potential, the ‘worldbuilding’—I hate that term but it fits—is awful. Outside the main movies it doesn’t have any appeal, as evidenced by Solo flopping. People only care about the Skywalkers (who are now extinct) and lightsabers. Lucasfilm should of realised this and just made a new main saga movie every three years, and waited five years between trilogies. Moreover, keep an animated (not live action) show running between each trilogy, so lore obsessed people whose entire life is Star Wars get a fix. Also, state that every piece of media outside of movies and tv shows are not canon, which means the EU can still exists. Books and comics are niche and their readership will still consume them even if they aren’t canon. This would of made them more money while keeping the franchise respectable.
>the ‘worldbuilding’—I hate that term but it fits—is awful
40k worldbuilding is awful too and that doesn't stop it
40k worldbuilding is literally the best in the fricking genre, what the FRICK are you talking about?
Genuine question: Do you have severe autism? The only people I have ever seen complain about 40k world buildings at massive spergs who cannot form real friendships. I feel bad for you guys.
If they made a movie about Star Wars, it would bomb.
Their job is making money, which is why they're making generic sci-fi popcorn flicks for the widest audience imaginable reskinned as a Star Wars movie. That's how you make billions.
And yet star wars is dead because of stupid homosexuals like you.
>that's how you make billions
They're literally losing billions you moronic Black person.
Because Star Wars is an idealized fantasy, and that can't be written by cynical corporate types like Kennedy and Abrams, or spiteful mutants like Johnson.
>Why is it so difficult for them to make cool Star Wars stuff?
Because it's owned by fricking disney. The company has never made a film over pg13. Why would you expect them to make a compelling story that adults could enjoy?
Temper your expectations.
The cool factor in Star Wars straight up died when TCW came out, but zoomers aren't ready for that conversation.
TCW was a massive downgrade from CWMMP but it didn't kill SW. George ignoring EU had been already a thing since the Prequels
It didn't kill it, but it still carelessly set an example that Disney blindly followed with being blasé about continuity and pretending the EU and its fans don't exist, to name a few.
>a long time ago
>but still somehow only in an 80 year gap for the entire series of 20+ movies and TV shows
>and now men are useless and women can do literally anything
I think the upcoming movies about Rey will make us fall in love again.
One of disney's biggest mistakes was to treat the empire as equivalent to the nazis,Trump,etc. The Empire was always very popular in the extended universe but Disney can't allow any even gray portrayal of them because it would be like praising MAGA/nazis etc.I think the empire in the sequels could be shown in a similar way to Neo Zeon in Gundam Unicorn.
The israelites in charge don't think about what's cool to look at or watch. They think non-stop about their politics and can't help make everything about that.
Because it's a franchise that has been riding nothing but nostalgia since Return of the Jedi ended and so they're perpetually afraid of actually moving it in any new direction that isn't some form of prequel or reboot.
Because they hire gays, women, and non-Whites instead of the White males that actually watched and enjoyed Star Wars