Why is the ship just going back and forth repeatedly during the intro?

Why is the ship just going back and forth repeatedly during the intro?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that was state of the art CGI in those days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How did they do it so well for a television show?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How did they do it so well for a television show?

      Its not CGI they predominantly used physical models

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WOOSH
        we know, gayet.
        this is a joke thread you autismic moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this is a joke thread you antisemitic moron
          wtf, how did he know??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they predominantly used physical models
        Exclusively, wasn't it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it wasn’t until the 2nd or 3rd season of voyager that cgi was advanced enough AND cheap enough to have primarily CGI ship shots. Though I believe that enterprise was the only show that never had any physical models

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah Enterprise used CGI exclusively with some of it looking like it was rendered at SD resolution in the early seasons even on the blu-ray. The movies went full CGI starting with Insurrection too although back in First Contact a lot of the ships in the Borg were all CGI.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They used CGI for some things like the Crystalline Entity which had to remade from scratch for the HD remaster.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Am I the only one who hates the HD remasters? Particularly for TOS. I don't see how this doesn't get the same kind of disdain that Star Wars fans have towards the Special Editions:

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              True fact: I have never seen a remastered episode of TOS. I watched reruns as a kid between The Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island, but I never watched it in adulthood. The TNG remasters look good though. Two thumbs up there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For anyone curious how the original 1987 special effects were done for TNG, this is a great video.

                ILM did the enterprise d shots using a physical model on a computer controlled camera rigs. They used would make multiple passes using different lighting and then composite the shots together. It was a very good effect.

                The decision was made to make a lot of stock shots for Season 1 that could be re-used with different mattes and effects that were edited in via tape recording. All of this had to be remade for the Blu-ray

                ?

                A lot of people forget that the TNG remaster literally just uses the original live action model footage, it's not CGI

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The original shots of the models and sets were all shot on film. When it was composited together with the SFX, it was done on tape in 4:3. That’s why for the Blu-ray, they had to re-edit a lot of stuff plus create new SFX

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. But I have heard people say
                >woah, is that a CGI Enterprise?? did the models really look that good?
                and the answer is, yes, all these years and they really did look that good

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wel the reason it looks like CGI is the way ILM composites 6 different takes of the enterprise. Watching the documentary in

                For anyone curious how the original 1987 special effects were done for TNG, this is a great video.

                ILM did the enterprise d shots using a physical model on a computer controlled camera rigs. They used would make multiple passes using different lighting and then composite the shots together. It was a very good effect.

                The decision was made to make a lot of stock shots for Season 1 that could be re-used with different mattes and effects that were edited in via tape recording. All of this had to be remade for the Blu-ray

                ?

                showed they took something like 5 passes for each shot. 1 was like the model in total darkness against the blue screen. The model with the windows lit in another pass. The model with just the warp nacelles lit in another pass, etc. then they layered it all together for a shot that looks too perfect to be a model. And the process did use a lot of computers to make it happen. ILM learned every trick from making Star Wars.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't see how this doesn't get the same kind of disdain that Star Wars fans have towards the Special Editions
              Because the original version of TOS is still available while the original version of Star Wars is not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So there's no more of the original Star Wars? What's up with the new versions?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The TOS blu-rays allow you to toggle between the new and old effects so its less of an issue. It sucks that streaming usually defaults to the remasters though. In the case of TNG they didn't change anything since they just went back to the original footage of the models and recomposited everything digitally in HD. They only used CGI to fill in missing effects shots and touch up planets and matte paintings that didn't hold up in HD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah both streaming and syndication use the "Lucasified" version of TOS. I guess they figured that normies would be filtered too hard by the original.
                But again, unlike the Star Wars OT, TOS as it was first shown in the 60s is still preserved.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Am I the only one who hates the HD remasters? Particularly for TOS

              I can see why people don't like the remasters, but I didn't mind em. I didn't go out of my way to find the non remasters

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don’t “hate” the HD remasters. I wish they had spent the money to recreate shots with a remake of the final TOS model. There were 3 enterprise models used for the first two pilots and Desilu was so fricking cheap that they would reuse the shots of the enterprise from the pilots in the same episode with enterprise shots from the series. You can buy lots to make all three models. That’s all I wanted them to clean up on the original series is the inconsistency with the damn ship!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                meh, this discontinuity mostly affects the first season

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My favorite cheap special effect was when they'd re-use the same clip of the Enterprise orbiting a random planet, just with a different color filter in each episode.
                TNG did the same thing for alien cityscapes by just changing the color filter on same handful of matte painting backdrops.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie they were even re-using the pilot footage in this scene. notice they dont have the christmas lights on the nacelle and i stead have the nipples. the end of the nacelles lack the pantyhose cups and instead have vents. This is one of the two early models.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats the second model “where no man has gone before” because the firsy model had from The Menagerie had no lights at all. not even for the windows

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The TOS remasters suck idk how people can watch that ugly crap
              The TMP remaster is great however

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I’ve only seen the HD remasters but some episodes look fricking fantastic. Better than slop like DSC and RoP. Although some early TNG episodes look horrendous and I’d be embarrassed to be caught watching them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Crystalline Entity
            He was a good boy he didn't do nothin'

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is a lost art that needs to return
        fricking sick of CGI especially in nu-hollywood productions where it looks like spykids tier because of the cheap indians they outsource it to

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fricking sick of CGI
          You mean you're sick of bad CGI. Good CGI you never notice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "tasteful" CGI doesn't exist anymore. When it got cheap enough, it exclusively became a cost-saving alternative to costume makeup, set building, and special effects.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't care what you dumb fricks say, the cgi in the nutrek is incredibly good for being a shitty series. It looks a shit ton better than all the shitty models in TOS and TNG or that one shitty lightning effect they used for everything.

              just because marvel cheapened out on cgi doesn't mean everyone else has. Even the first ironman looks great compared to the newer marvel movies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the cgi in the nutrek is incredibly good for being a shitty series.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It looks a shit ton better than all the shitty models in TOS and TNG

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the cgi in the nutrek is incredibly good

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .Mih%C3%A1lik
                It's pretty good. Compare that to shit like the star wars sequels and the budget they had to work with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frick off, it's unwatchable. Wtf is that shitty cgi porn?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao you think this cgi bukkake as

                cgi bukkakes are the prime examples ofbad cgi
                that shit doesn't look good btw

                coined it is good?
                You can't even follow what's going on, it's just shit smeared all over the screen

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if you can't follow what's going on then that's on you. It's a couple of big ships shooting little ships. It's not that fricking hard to understand.

                It looks shit tons better than a slow pan of a couple of models with shitty phaser cgi firing at one another.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even the big CGI battles in certain DS9 episodes were choreographed better than that STD clusterfrick.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fricking star wars bullshit that isn't even trek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sith Lord Gul Dukat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll take the huge ships fighing like galleons and using precise rays over trembling cgi shit shotting other cgi shit that shoots other cgi shit at some other cgi shit that looks like a moronic kid dropped a bag of marbles on the disco's floor because he had a stroke when flashed with strobo lights

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Enterprise slowly reversing out of space dock is a better looking and more gripping action scene than this ADHA fuelled CGI wank fest.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cgi bukkakes are the prime examples ofbad cgi
                that shit doesn't look good btw

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That "good cgi" is still shit because it makes everything look fake even if you can't exactly point the finger.
            It's also concealed thanks to awful filters and color grading.
            On top of that cgi always leads to lazyness

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cheap model looks like a cheap model
        Practical effects are completely overrated. It's like the tards bragging about memphis belle over Masters of the air when it shows a real plane taking off and then a couple of shitty models in the next shot.

        It's always super obvious whenever models are used. Especially when water is involved.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop-motion animation is still kino, and physical models are appealing in ways too complex to contain in a simple post. Of course I enjoy CGI movies as well but a mix of both for live-action is best.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stop motion in robocop 1 and 2 and terminator 1 was really, really bad. Most stop motion was pretty bad. I mean stop motion was so bad that even I thought I could pull it off using my action figures and a home video camera. I made a shit ton of awesome lego and gi-joe stop motion movies when I was a kid. They were all extremely violent and I used a lot of fake blade in them. It doesn't help that I was in kindergarten watching movies like terminator, robocop, and alien. If a psychiatrist saw the videos I made they would of had me go through therapy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >stop motion in robocop 1 and 2 and terminator 1 was really, really bad.
              It was tate of the art back then and it's stll good to look at now (most of it)
              Also it won't age.
              If it was made with cgi it would age like shit and be worse than stop motion

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stop motion in robocop 1 and 2 and terminator 1 was really, really bad

                moronic take. The best use of stop motion is robots. It looks great. Wtf is wrong with you? You must be a zoomertard.

                frick off, it's unwatchable. Wtf is that shitty cgi porn?

                ?t=53
                Yeah that's totally great looking and doesn't look like a janky model at all.

                meanwhile the t-1000 still looks great today.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both look great
                And the T1000 ony works because it looks like shiny quicksilver, a thing that cgi isn't shit at doing and it's meant to look odd and alien

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know how you can look at the door closing scene and say to yourself "yeah that looked great." The framerate of the movement is in the single digits.

                It's like watching alien 3 and thinking the compositing looks perfectly fine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This, it's really no better than the Great One was doing decades earlier with sandal and toga flicks.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >stop motion in robocop 1 and 2 and terminator 1 was really, really bad

              moronic take. The best use of stop motion is robots. It looks great. Wtf is wrong with you? You must be a zoomertard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You should have a nice day.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were completing fetch quests.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were lost and Captain Picard was too stubborn to stop and ask for directions

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When no one's looking Wesley just angrily drives in circles while doing a sarcastic Picard voice
    >make it so
    >make it so
    >frick you bald homosexual stop eyeballing my mother
    >frick you you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He’s literally me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wil Weaton was actually being sexually abused by the israeli producers and directors.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying he didn't want it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying he didn't want it

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's engaging

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was traveling in a straight line, (you) moved between shots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is there an in-universe reason as to why I did this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wormholes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >satantrips
      >fake (you)
      >for the lulz
      the perfect post daysu

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are traveling through a microverse replica of the solar system, that is why the planets appear smaller and much closer to each other than they actually are.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain the cake episode?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is no cake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of cake was it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I havent seen that episode for 10 years or so, please give me credit for half remembering it being a peptic synthide(???) cake

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It mimics the TOS intro.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kept missing the turnoff

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Picard has been spiking his tea with synthehol

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to intimidate the audience into watching
    it worked

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they did the same thing in the TOS intro

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Riker kept forgetting his condoms back on earth.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For anyone curious how the original 1987 special effects were done for TNG, this is a great video.

    ILM did the enterprise d shots using a physical model on a computer controlled camera rigs. They used would make multiple passes using different lighting and then composite the shots together. It was a very good effect.

    The decision was made to make a lot of stock shots for Season 1 that could be re-used with different mattes and effects that were edited in via tape recording. All of this had to be remade for the Blu-ray

    ?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish it was possible to get ILM to go back to this. I know it was painstaking for ILM to coordinate all of these ships movements. But to me, the battle against the Death Star over Endor was the best space battle in ALL of Star Wars. And it was all done with motion controlled models and compositing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The originals look considerably worse than what you posted though. They fixed all the compositing and lighting inconsistencies and smoothed out a lot of the movement with interpolation in the remakes of the original. I have the unedited version on VHS still and the compositing is pretty horrible.

      You're also skipping over how bad the speeder scenes are. Even with all the composite fixing they still look janky as frick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember. I have the original VHS too. I watched it 1000x. All the ships looked like they had “shields” which appeared like boxes. Still. It was better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when people refer to the star wars special editions, they're not talking about the recomposited model footage
        they're talking about cgi dewback butts blocking the screen in ANH or the goofy extra cgi muppets at jabba's palace in RotJ

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I also love the women cast in the original, Roddenberry had good taste

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roddenberry also fricked most of them. He was fricking Nichelle Nichols and Majel Barret while married to his first wife.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        knew he was a poonhound and he was smashing nurse chappel, but didn't know about Nichols lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah he had a casting couch.
          she explained that he cast her on a police drama and offered her a leading role on Star Trek. im pretty sure that offer included access to that forbidden black pussy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            honestly moronic decisions and not, Roddenberry is a true legend up there with people like Rod Taylor or Walt Disney whose vision changed American culture and he doesn't get enough credit for it outside the fandom imo. Star Trek TOS is still fresh today and he really did a great job in depicting humanistic themes. That said, it was good that others took over TNG.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Romulans were my favorite race

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ~~*Romulans*~~

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the parentheses race for me were ferengi

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vulcans are Orthodox israelites with their stupid rituals and clothes
          Romulans are Mossad
          Ferengi are merchants

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gene Roddenberry has openly said he based the Vulcan culture on israeli mysticism.
            Romulans were simply just conceived to be space Romans in TOS, and later became modeled after isolationist Asian countries like China and North Korea during the TNG era.
            Ferenghi were just conceived to be the inverse of Star Trek humans. Later in DS9 they obviously were modeled after israeli caricatures, by self-deprecating israeli writers.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >As you might imagine, the desk at The Los Angeles Times Magazine didn't have to ask twice if I was interested in a short tour of duty aboard the new ship of the line. And to start things rolling, I was provided an audience with the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself, Eugene Wesley Roddenberry or, as he presented himself while seated in a wheelchair in the expansive office of his palatial Bel-Air home, Gene.

    >I decided to conclude our wide-ranging interview with an issue that had intrigued me since I began covering israeli and Israeli affairs. I suggested that there seemed to be something almost uniquely israeli about the flavor of the Star Trek universe. Roddenberry perked up. “How so?”

    >“Consider,” I said, drawing upon long practiced Vulcan equanimity. “Earth has chosen a Federation as its greatest organizing entity. The Federation believes in outreach and mutual acceptance and respect as organizing principles. The peripatetic protagonists are tasked with the ongoing mission of wandering the galaxy. The second banana, hired because his unconventional israeli face suggested alien qualities, used rabbinic gestures to convey salutations, and parsed the wild and wooly universe with the logic-bound aplomb of a Talmudic scholar.”

    >I left unsaid that performers Bill Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Walter Koenig, as well as producers Robert Justman, Herb Solow and Fred Freiberger and too many writers to name were all fellow tribesmen. Roddenberry, I concluded, must have been a philo-Semite of the first order to surround himself with so many Red Sea pedestrians.

    >The congenial Roddenberry concluded what I later realized was a slow burn. “You israelites,” he snarled, “have a lamentable habit of identifying those characteristics in a society that you deem positive and then taking credit for inventing them”

    https://israelijournal.com/commentary/opinion/164916/

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your whole life is going back and forth from home to work, or from tv to toilet depending on your employment status and time of day. And for you it’s not just the intro it’s your whole life.

    Signed Enterprise, b***h

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