Why is there no Sea Peoples kino? Just imagine how epic a series or movie saga about the bronze age collapse would.
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Why is there no Sea Peoples kino? Just imagine how epic a series or movie saga about the bronze age collapse would.
What happened to them?
they became the greeks
Absolutely not
no one knows anything about them other than that they probably existed and we don't know anything about them
sounds kino
They were just a bunch of pirates. Mediterranean had so many in a thousand years of history it's not even that special. Rome had wage war with them, Spain and itally had to wage war with Muslim pirates etc.
That's not true at all.
Anon you clearly have access to historical information the rest of humanity is lacking, please write a paper with your findings
Possibly became the Philistines as Philistines had Greek burial practices and herodotus talks about things going to poo in Greece after the Trojan war
No certain answer though. Alls that's known is the Egyptians managed to beat them
ligma destroyed them
What the heck is ligma?
Oh they’re still around
Go on?
most of them must have died in the chaos of the bronze age collapse, some of them managed to settle land like the philistines
Didn't Rameses the Great defeat a bunch of Sea Peoples and then settle them on the edge of his kingdom?
IIRC he was quite proud of it since the Hittites and stuff were destroyed by them.
Most likely the 'Sea Peoples' he fought were just refugees from places destroyed by OG Sea Peoples.
RETURNED FROM WHENCE THEY CAME
They were probably a loose confederation of Sardinians, Italians, and Greeks. A lot of them migrated near the end of the Bronze Age, with many becoming highly paid mercenaries for Egypt and some resettling on depopulated Mediterranean islands and the levant.
Egyptians couldn’t beat them so they recruited them and pointed them at the Hittites lmao
Ended up on my tissue
They just stopped being relevant, kind of like the Mongols.
They were the historical basis for Plato's Atlantis btw. Ethnically, they were Sicilian and Maltese.
Both were colonised by other after the sea peoples. Theres no relation between any of them. Post the genetic evidence if im wrong.
Every single Mediterranean group is a lot closer to each other than to non-Mediterranean groups; it's just how the geography of it works. An Egyptian and a Sicilian probably had more in common genetically than a Sicilian and a Frisian.
Once.
No longer and hasnt been so for thousands of years.
r1b says no
unless you mean before indo-europeans
They became absorbed into the Eastern med region likely from the northern coasts, Sardinia, Sicily. It seems like crop failures cascaded down northern Italy during this time period and settlements became less numerous and more fortfied. Locals protected what they could and those that couldnt migrated into the east and south being beaten back only in Egypt. Must have been a wild time to be alive if you could survive.
The only thing we know for sure is they weren't sub-saharan africans kek
They formed the city state of Atlantis but it sunk into the sea. israelites were involved
That's something only the Cinemaphile crowd would watch.
What a dumb question. Did you just learn about them?
Not him but what's so dumb about that question? Are you implying that it isn't possible to make a movie about the sea peoples?
Its not impossible but to do so has nothing but downsides.
>nothing but downsides.
How? Is there an objective part of this history that might be misrepresented?
It has no ready made story because ao little is known, it requires a massive exposition dump that would be largely speculative, the costumes and sets would have to be custom made... There's really nothing gained from it outside of your childish imagination.
Not everyone is as creatively dead as you
True, theyd need to have creativity to begin with for it to die.
>childish imagination.
The Avatar movies are moronic as frick tier child imagination and those grossed 3 billion dollars.
By being available to go see in a theatre for an entire year.
Cast them.
No proof they existed
Amd the evidence that they did exist is about as sound as the evidence of man-made global warming
Where was there homeland?
It's assumed that they were a confederation and most of them came from places like Sicily, Sardinia and Crete
Sounds like a bullshit theory
Somewhat true, except the sardinians didn't come from sardinia so much as they split off and invaded sardinia at some point
Greece + Balkans +Central Europe and they included people who would eventually settle sardinia, the sea peoples were unironically pale skinned blonde hair blue eyes peoples, though why they chose to settle in palestine instead of cyprus dumbfounds me
Any evidence? Sounds like a bullshit theory
I remember a few genetic studies that showed palestinians with 30-40 % european dna, though most of it was greek there were balkan and central european traces included, that and a lot of their christians have pale skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, like this chick, for some reason there are palestinian redheads too but I'm not sure if that's from the sea peoples or the crusaders
You mean their homesea?
Hittite and Egyptian texts describe them sacking cities on a vast scale. Attributing the Bronze Age Collapse to the Sea Peoples is the most logical conclusion imo.
>multiple records in Egypt of sea people attacking them and hittites
>but they didn't exist because there's no VIDEO EVIDENCE
You're a moron
So what happened to the hittites then?
The climate changed causing famine and social upheaval
There were food shortages due to some volcanic eruption that cause social unrest, the hittites and the other powers would have been fine though had the sea peoples not invaded them literally right afterwards since after their invasion the nobility and bereaucrats were literally genocided
Shit happened to Crete too for the Minoans but at a different period of time IIRC.
Volcano in aegean goes off, blows up that island, Crete is hit by a series of crop failures and natural disasters and then the entire nobility is wiped out and a new god is worshipped less than a century later with many manors being burned down with families inside and signs of cannibalism.
cannibalism?
It's when people eat other people.
Yeah, but I thought only canaanites did that during the period, how did that culture spread to crete
Signs of cannibalism doesn't mean that there's a culture of it lmao.
Ukrainians would eat their own babies due to the Holodomor but there wasn't a culture of it.
Different morals for a different time.
Keep in mind this was a people that worshipped bulls despite the island never having bulls. People, especially uncivilised people, are always doing something fricked up.
Cannibalism was not the norm on Crete prior to that catastrophic century.
It has nothing to do with 'different morals for a different time'.
Modern people still commit cannibalism when the only other option is starvation.
>only other option
Prove it.
Also boats are a thing.
We know for a fact that it's possible to sail during volcanic activity (pliny the elder saving people from vesuvius being a perfect example of one such event). So youre gonna tell me that an island peoples with access to boats (there's been evidence of trade from other regions found on crete) couldnt put themselves on said boats and sail to safety? Where's the evidence of that? Who said the bones weren't from prior to their apocalypse?
>prove it
Prove what?
That people resort to cannibalism in extreme situations?
Are you a fricking zoomer who doesn't even know about Flight 571?
>boats are a thing
Go build a boat for me and my 40,000+ fellow islanders + supplies right now.
I'm waiting.
>volcanic activity
How is that relevant?
Crete didn't suffer from any volcanic activity.
What caused their civs decline?
What stopped them from sailing away when famine struck?
I want you to prove to me that they weren't cannibals.
We have had cannibal societies survive into the modern age, the last i recall hearing about ceased performing cannibalism in the late 1970's. My point is that it doesnt take an extreme situation for someone to eat someone else.
I dont want to build you a boat. If anything id be the c**t that resorted to eating people first and id start with you.
You don't seem to understand how the pre-modern world worked.
You can't just 'sail away' land somewhere and walk into the local supermarket to buy food you fricking moron.
>prove to me that they werent cannibals
You mean prior to the catastrophies that fricked them up?
Well we know they weren't cannibals because prior to that we have no human bones showing signs of it.
Your point is fricking moronic and was unclear because your IQ is only in the double digits.
Sea people could, why couldn't they?
So when their ancestors came ashore they went to the supermarket and got their shit, is that the point youre trying to make?
How do you know the bones werent from before? Carbon dating doesnt give a definitive date, it gives us a set period of time with variables.
Youre as deluded and moronic as these "sea peoples" living rent free in ops underaged head.
Imagine thinking you are more civilized than they
>cretian civilisation
>destroyed
>eastern civilisation
>still flourishing
Checkmate bull lover.
What was the new god?
IIRC they swapped from some big titted fertility goddess to some more warlike male guy.
There's literally a massive fresco depicting a battle against them at Medinet Habu
What would it be about?
It could be a psychological war story told from the perspective of someone dealing with their raids. The sea peoples themselves could be represented as a mythical force of nature
The problem is that story would be far better represented in a time period closer to our own which we could relate to better. In this instance the setting might come across as incidental and just come across as an excuse to be like "hey look its the sea peoples, you've heard of them right?" Which tbh is the whole idea behind this thread and why it wouldn't really work. There's just not really enough of a reference point.
>The problem is that story would be far better represented in a time period closer to our own which we could relate to better.
That just seems creatively lazy to me. Going by that logic, no piece of media set in ancient history could work. I want to see moments in human history that haven't been represented before.
No, but it needs to have a narrative and thematic purpose beyond "well here's a thing from history".
Maybe it can serve as a commentary on the inevitability of civilisational collapse or something
That sounds dumb as frick.
They literally had earthquake weapons they would activate just to frick with landlets in the Mediterranean. The only time they “lost” a battle was when their boats got stuck in the Nile delta
I love when some obscure bit of history becomes relevant because of moronic shit like a video game so homosexuals like OP can pretend they didn't learn about this yesterday
there's a sea peoples vidya?
the romans exterminated them and then salted the earth
Anyone know more channels like “fall of civilisations” on youtube?
What a kino channel.
Voices of the past.
After the egypt war they settled and became the philistines and technically the palestinians after the romans with chad hadrian genocided most of the urban and rural israelites
I’m pretty sure you’re the israelite hombre
I'm not a israelite JIDF homosexual, and I hope hadrian sodomized those israelite homosexuals before having them crucified
They would just be black
it would never get financed
conservative tone, gender stereotypes, no trannies, no blacks, only those who fought and worked got food.... you see the pattern
Sounds like no hard proof exists.
If they were a known quantity and a continued presence it would all be logged in detail by egyptians and other local entities that logged fricking everything else.
It's all just conjecture and invented lore to fill a gap that might've not existed to begin with.
Theres evidence that pirates existed.
Everything else is speculation, ie a theory.
They were recorded but villified by the egyptians and canaanites, the egyptians said they defeated them and settled them as vassals in gaza and the canaanites wrote them as antagonists in the old testament
The old testament was written half a millenium after the bronze age collapse
It's just a catch all term for "pirates". There weren't that many people around in those times so any minor skirmish would be characterized as a big deal so it makes it seem like a bunch of pirates in dinky boats raiding a coastal town is some monumental feat.
sea peoples = 20 good men
Yeah and the pyramids were built by 20 guys too
It was a half a century long constitution, so might as well be 20 people chilling, one brick a week.
*2 million 2 ton cut stone blocks in 20 years
Nile boys find a way.
Djed pillar theory is interesting but I don't know what rope they're supposed to have used.
>No proof
Im going to start classifying sea people believers with Qtards
Theres proof pirates existed and continue to do so.
Theres no proof any of the theories about them are right.
Sneed Peoples
>Sea Peoples
that's a myth
na i seen them before
did they rape and pillage you?
My roommate was convinced that they were the chinese. He was a fricking history major, this was one of our biggest points of tension in all our time living together.
Lmao how, is he chinese or schizoid?
I think he was just in a section of his degree where they were talking about China a lot and he bought into the hype. I always maintained that the sea people were probably barbs doing barb things. He eventually consneeded years later
The Iliad and the Odyssey are basically about what they did. I don’t think it’s a coincidence.