Why is this place so shit when it comes to producing good media?
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Mad Max 1-3 were all good
Okay, good point. So we have Mad Max, ACDC, Steve Irwin… what else of note have we created? I should mention im from melbourne myself
We have Mr Inbetween, which is pretty good
only one mention of Mr Inbetween?
Cinemaphile has failed once again at having good taste
I nearly brought it up earlier as an example of self-financed Aussie filmmaking excellence... but then I found out he got hella financing from Screen Australia, still, yes, Scott Ryan is the closest thing you can get to indie film success in Australia: one good film (as long as SA likes it and you get a celebrity mate on your side) and then 20 years later a Netflix series
I remember Yahoo Serious being a "thing" for about five minutes in the late '80s.
>In July 2020, Serious was evicted from his Sydney rental property and ordered to pay $15,000 in rent arrears to the landlords. Serious stated that he was unable to pay due to the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, but was unable to substantiate this claim.
oof
he still lives in australia?
wonder what he thinks about the state of the film industry
If he still wants to make another movie he probably thinks it's tip top (in public)
He rents? He wasn't able to channel that short term success into a house at the very least?
It's never been more over. If Yahoo Serious can't make it what hope is there for the rest of us?
Yeah we all know your that vaccinated piece of shit who started coming here when reddit was down.
Frick up c**t
Imagine supporting Daniel Andrews and begging anons from Cinemaphile to go to the Astor with you. Fricking homosexual.
Eric bana might have started the MCU
it was george lucas with howard the duck
>we
Frick off curry Black person
slither back to the open sewer that spawned you
DANGER 5
Bong here. No love for Lano and Woodley? (They're essentially unknown here, which is another of life's injustices.)
Mad Max 3 is not good
Stfu, raggedy man.
Its also not Australian
1 and 2 were good but i didn't like 3. the first one will always be my favorite
Mad Max (the original)
Crocodile Dundee
Romper Stomper
Crocodile dundee is a dumb caricature and the reason why c**ts overseas just think all of australia is a red wasteland with blokes riding kangaroos around wearing those hats
Crocodile Dundee was a fun movie and is part of Australian culture
>the reason why c**ts overseas just think all of australia is a red wasteland with blokes riding kangaroos around wearing those hats
Youd be a lot cooler if you were
> is part of Australian culture
No, it’s a part of your ignorant american impression of what aussie culture actually is
Lol, as an American I know how you feel. Nobody who hasn't lived here has the slightest idea what America is really like but so many people watch American TV and movies they think they're experts on my country.
You don't all live in massive 6 bedroom houses on treelined streets and just take a single slice of toast from the massive spread your mom cools every morning?
I mean, I do, of course, but it's not the norm for most people. Three bedroom house on a quarter acre lot is the most common for detached single family housing.
For all it’s problems, america still seems like a comfier place to live then Aus. Outside the major cities of course.
It's awesome really. The cities are mostly shit, you can still find some decent neighborhoods in some, but they're mostly containment zones for the child races these days.
Climate wise? I'd rather live in NSW, in like 3/4 of the US the summers are nasty swampy humid. In the whole southern half of the country people live like vampires and don't go outside all summer long.
I live in Florida and people are outside constantly, that's literally the point in living here.
yeah but that's old people, they want to live in a sauna 24/7. it's also relatively warm there all year round, no one wants to do anything outside after it goes from 70 to 105 on the heat index in a few weeks
nope there's fit young people everywhere try again, I genuinely don't get what the frick you're talking about.
*outside everywhere
i'm not talking about florida where it's subtropical and warm year round so people are used to being hot, i'm talking about places that have winters. there are a lot less people outside in late summer than in spring and fall
I know, I love how empty the beaches are in the summertime in the US.
beaches are an obvious exception because people go swimming to cool off. think about hiking, people walking their dogs, camping, having fires, hunting, foraging, mountain climbing
this is moronic why are we even arguing about this
you said something stupid and people called you on it, you could stop now and don't reply to this if you think it's so moronic.
we will graciously accept your concession.
Australia is filling up with Hindus who want to shit in the streets, publicly burn people and use the rivers for their rituals.
>mountain climbing
Everything you said is moronic but this one is particularly moronic. You don't wait until winter to go mountain climbing. It's best to do it in good, warm weather so you have less chance of dying.
>mountain climbing
>in the southern united states
just stop embarrassing yourself
Does southern California count?
>whole southern half of the country people live like vampires and don't go outside all summer long
I'm trying not to call people fricking morons anymore but what the frick makes you think that? Is that what you did the summer you were there?
>ignorant american impression of what aussie culture actually is
dont you have "petrol" to be huffing? or fighting over in the wasteland?
It's an Aussie in-joke that played well overseas by coincidence
"New York" = Melbourne or Sydney
Ironically it is you who doesn't understand Australia or else you wouldn't have been filtered (or you're just too young to remember)
Older Australians used to act a lot like, of course it's an exaggeration, and a stereotype of the inner bush person, but it's not far off. homosexual modern Australia doesn't recognise itself in it.
I visited the outback recently. It's definitely still alive, it's only the big cities that are soulless wastelands.
That's good to hear.
If I were to live somewhere in Australia purely by choice, it'd be in one of those slightly outback towns. They feel safer than the cities too.
The cities still feel fairly safe to me, wouldn't expect them to remain that way for long but i still wander about like i would when i lived rurally.
You've never been to one of those "slightly outback towns" they're almost all shitholes with abos or drug addicts causing problems regularly
That's why you go to a white outback down dumbass. Don't go anywhere abos are allowed.
The "white" ones are full of drug addicts
Again like I said, you should try going outside first
I'm from a rural town. Drug addicts are pretty minor.
Which one. We will check the stats.
t. Inner suburb Labor voter who voted for the Voice and thinks dark emu is real.
t. have cop friends who've worked in the country actually
Where in the country? Northern Territory doesn't count, its well known as a shithole and there are plenty of better places.
WA but keep coping abo lovers
I live in a 99% white town and there's frick all crime here.
>didn't deny anything I said
>admitting to sucking off vicpol scum
The Australian episode of Rick and Morty
>Romper Stomper
SKINHEAD SKINHEAD
LOOKING FOR A FIGHT
The German singer goes hard.
It's peopled almost entirely by the descendants of criminals.
Not anymore mate it’s mostly indian immigrants. We’re going to be a minority soon
They'll fill the rapist niche that your ancestors couldn't since rapists were hanged in England instead of transported. Their presence balances your society. It's a good thing.
They're finally shutting the door hard on immigration, thank frick. Doesn't help that the c**ts opened the floodgates the last two years while we've had a housing crisis and inflation is out of control but at least the pieces of shit were able to see the writing on the wall and reduce it as well as slice the international "students" loopholes allowing pajeets to come here and be uber eats drivers while living in a single bedroom with five other pajeets.
They're not shutting the door on immigration. They are only trying to reduce it back to its pre covid levels, which is still gonna be high enough to completely change the character of this nation in less than two generations. It's also high enough that it will do nothing to fix house prices. Yes, rents might stabilise but they won't go down. We're still fricked.
Touche.
>finally
At the absolute most it's dropping from 200k to like 170k in the permanent migration of students, and then only if Coalition gets in because Labor wants to increase it and if Labor get pushed in to minority government they'll have to bow to Greens and raise it, Greens will run the country like last time. Temporary is still like an extra 100-200k on top of that too.
>only if Coalition gets in
look at how much immigration went down under tony "stop the boats" abbott
I'm just pointing out that their big plan is to cut it by 30k. Whether they will or not who knows, but Labor says they want to raise it.
>cut it by 30k.
Just another lie
>At the absolute most it's dropping from 200k to like 170k
We took in 970,000 shitskins across the last two years. Dutton is pledging to bring it down to around 140,000 and I'm sure Albanese will "promise" to bring it around 150,000 to hedge votes.
How much damage has already been done though?
>believing a single word Dutton or albo says
It won't change no matter who wins
Most likely right but when both parties are making public pledges, even if they are lying, it means they're aware that people are disgruntled.
There’s something greater at play here. This immigrantion pause won’t be permanent, I dont trust albo enough to do something as honorable as that
>This immigrantion pause won’t be permanent, I dont trust albo enough to do something as honorable as that
Immigration is wildly unpopular here despite the population just going along with it without resistance. Now, with the cost of living skyrocketing it's more unpopular than ever. They're literally just doing the bare minimum necessary to appease voters enough to keep them compliant.
>cost of living
Rent has increased by about 20% in 6 months. I don't know how anyone is surviving in this country if they don't live at home / nepobaby who inherited property
>falling for it
you're a moron they've been doing this same thing for years
>open the floodgates to Black person tier 3rd worlders
>native population gets angry
>pretends to shut the door for a year or two until the native population forgets but also makes sure not to remove all the people they already let in
>start over at step one
we are watching the western world collapse in real time, technology has progressed to the point that everything is monitored at all times a revolution will never happen again.
In short, its over.
>technology has progressed to the point that everything is monitored at all times a revolution will never happen again
All that technological progress could be wiped out with a single geomagnetic storm and it's basically inevitable. Imagine the impact the Carrington event would have in the 21st century.
We got that 2 weeks ago and nothing happened
Keep coping
Not even fricking close to the Carrington event in scale. You're the one coping if you genuinely think technological constraints will always be able to prevent revolution.
>let in more than 500k pajeets in 12 moths
>going to reduce it to 250k pajeets next year
>mfw the highest EVER was like 230k, before that it was way less
It's one of the oldest negotiation tricks in the book moron, by going hard you change peoples expectations and can then get away with getting the still high number you originally wanted.
BOTH political parties want "Big Australia" which is at least double our current population.
>BOTH political parties want "Big Australia" which is at least double our current population.
I believe you, but why on earth do they think this is a good idea? What good can come doubling the population of a country that is already overflowing with c**ts unable to even support themselves. Are they planning on expanding cities out into the outback?
more people = more gdp and higher property prices
Australia is fricked as long as everyone in parliament has multiple investment properties
Basically
, immigration is unironically "good" for the economy in that it increases it's size, the fine print is that it benefits some more than others.
The average joe gets fricked by immigration due to more competition for everything.
The wealthy benefit by having access to more labour and are mostly protected from the increase in competition.
For the government it's a double edged sword
>How do we fix this?
By meming "Big Australia" into the climate change and renewable energy debate.
>Basically
Australia is fricked as long as everyone in parliament has multiple investment properties, immigration is unironically "good" for the economy in that it increases it's size
You're halfway there.
Immigration is "good" for the "economy" because when a third world immigrant arrives, they lack one thing, DEBT. The government wants immigration because the native population is at a point that is called DEBT SATURATED. As in, they cannot take on more debt and therefore cannot grow our farce of a so-called economy. Immigrants can take on debt, natives cannot.
Because we allow Fractional Reserve banking with a ZERO POINT ZERO percent reserve, every single dollar of debt an immigrant takes on is a dollar created out of literally nowhere, and that's how our "economy" has kept "growing".
The moment the flood of thirdies stops out economy goes completely breasts up because it's been chronically mismanaged since 1947.
>By meming "Big Australia" into the climate change and renewable energy debate.
I don't like that clever clever shit, it always backfires. You think they're hobbled by internal contradictions? They don't even blink
>current raging debate about how to transition away from fossil fuel
>average normie is passionate about it
>a large increase in population makes it harder and more expensive
it's not a huge leap, there's a lot of potential to trojan horse "Sustainable Australia" with white Australia polices
>Are they planning on expanding cities out into the outback?
Depends what you mean by "planning" - the answer is yes if you earn someone in government intends for them to eventually move to and expand regional towns turning them into cities like what happened in the US mid west but if you mean "planning" as in making preparations for infrastructure, jobs and most importantly a frickload of water to support these people in the middle of fricking nowhere...
>Are they planning on expanding cities out into the outback?
there is plenty of room along the coast for all the urban sprawl they're planning. i live an hour away from my state capital in a small country town and they are developing a new suburb here. except instead of it being large blocks with plenty of room on them (there's shitloads of room out here) they are doing mcmansion style cuck homes on blocks no bigger than 400m2 just like you'd see in a suburban development in a big city. it's over, they're planning on sprawling gay suburbs as far as they possibly can.
>planning
lol they have no plans, no vision
growth is good, GDP is good, the experts tell them they need more people, that's as much thought as they put into it
Is he to blame for this?
Just one in a long line of Fabian society stooges.
libtard
Reminder that your precious israelites had rudd removed
Voted out.
The israelite installed Gillard
Who was then voted back in. Following this she was removed for Rudd who lost the election. Guess what happened? He was voted out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Australian_federal_election
And? It doesn't change the fact that the israelite had him removed in the first place
he still kisses israelite arse and cries about white racism even after they did so he's a joke
It makes your statement completely irrelevant. If you have trouble understanding or if you just really want to "win", please speak to your NDIS funded autism coach before ranting further.
I hate the milky bar kid
Nope he was the one we voted in to open us up to China as our new friend to replace the US, at least he admitted he was wrong about that.
lol the immigration issue is a smokescreen, the housing crisis began during covid when nobody was coming into the country at all.
So what happened to Australia when the lockdowns were going on and immigration was stopped? Did rents and unemployment skyrocket because there were no skilled immigrants coming in to do the jobs Aussies don't want to do? Did you people have to eat cardboard because you didn't have the delicious food immigration brings?
lmao lockdowns didn't stop immigration, it was a bit lower for 1-2 years but that was it
Nothing will stop GDP growth and tye endless need for property value to increase
Yeah, was total chaos. I once killed 3 anti-lockdown bogans in a single night with my razor-boomerang until the indian uber drivers could be levied to save the country from total disintegration.
rents actually fell and life was comfy for a while
but now it's back to hellscape
>life was comfy for a while
>but now it's back to hellscape
Really? Life was comfy when they were dumping massive amounts of cash to stimulate the economy?
Yes!
Yes. You should have seen the server chats in this region for basically any popular multiplayer game at that time. Everyone was just laughing and talking about how they should upgrade their computer with the free $2,500 we were all getting
Read what I said again you dumb c**t. Massive amounts of money were dumped int the economy to try to tread water, money we will be repaying for decades. Think of it like those divorced guys who quit their job and max out the credit cards having fun for a year.
Inbreed criminals, now they think American larceny is the 'norm
it's probably a safe bet to bet on the fact you are a mutt and likely less white than Aussies are. I dunno why mutts have this superiority complex when reality paints a different much browner and mixed picture.
>he never heard of abby winters
Have you heard the way they communicate?
yuravinalahfc**t
>captcha:smaka
Kino
It's pretty funny that the Australian New Wave, unlike the New Wave in practically every other country, never did any abstract arty things, it was always just entertaining movies.
The movie about the guy whos mom locked him up and abused him until he was 30 and then died durin bdsm, letting him have a fun comedy movie the rest of the time. horrid henry or something.
Bad Boy Bubby?
Yeah thats it
donko balls wants us to pay for nuke sub's, not entertainment. We are all full down under, full of shit.
We are going to need those subs.
It's a small irrelevant country it's actually impressive that they've churned out what they have.
At least they're not New Zealand.
At least New Zealand can claim the Lord of The Rings
As a filming location. With American money. Thanks for Karl Urban. He's ours now.
And now Mad Max isn't even made in Australia
Why? Is it that much cheaper to film in a dangerous shithole like South Africa or Namibia? Or is it the lack of workplace safety laws that's so enticing?
Fury Road was initially planned to film in Australia, but the desert they were going to film in got a SHIT TON of rain beforehand, and green plants started sprouting everywhere. They moved the shoot to Africa to get the lifeless desert look.
It was fricking garbage
Was furiosa filmed in Australia at least or did they go back to Africa?
>trying to pretend global warming will turn australia into a desert
>it's too green to film in
Furiosa was shot in Australia
New Zealand produces more kino so Australia has no excuse
Examples of New Zealand kino? Besides Lord of the Rings?
what we do in the shadows
Oh, right. David Cohen. Yay.
wait till you find out how many israelites are in hollywood
Sleeping Dogs
Really? Just one?
I agree honestly. This country just gets worse and worse with all the indian immigration shit and the homosexual we have as our prime minister. I’m not even necessarily a racist person but it’s become too much. Would any ireland bros mind if an aussie came over?
not really, as a country full of white people with English as a first language
I remember when this was touted as the next “big australian comedy” that would blow up overseas. I checked it out and jesus christ it’s bad. We’re almost german level when it comes to comedy. The only funny shit about australia comes from real conversations with real people, but our “funny” shows are just terrible
That's because our comedy (also our drama) has to pass thru layers of communist funding and approval before getting anywhere
So you can only make TV and film in Australia if it's funded by the government?
Our only real way to get funded in the country is Screen Australia, run by the government. They prefer to fund overseas films and bring them here to film for tax incentives (Fall Guy, Anyone but you the two most recent).
Sure you can get funding from worldwide production companies but it's a lot harder. I've found success with fricking Dubai production companies because screen Australia hates my guts at this point.
So there's no private studios or a history of them? There was never a Warner Brothers or Paramount equivalent?
We do have a Warner Bros studio in Queensland, next to a theme park but I don’t really know what they actually produce there.
>screen Australia hates my guts at this point.
why
Presumably he's a white, heterosexual male.
the cost of living is too high to spend time doing anything anything that takes longer than 2 weeks, which is why australia's focus is on instant results from low tech and low skill work to get the landlords off your back
so it means anything creative, high tech is totally out of the picture, just my luck
1/30th the GDP of the USA and 1/20th of the population thereabouts. With open competition in a high expense industry. It used to be possible to have the odd breakthrough success but I can't recall the last time, maybe Priscilla Queen of the Desert or Babe.
Don't forget being on the arse end of the Earth, meaning you cut out a lot of people at the very top of their profession for the simple fact that they do not want to be such a long flight from their kids if they cannot uproot their family to move them here for six months.
reading this thread, i have come to this conclusion:
This post gets it. This is what Australia has to offer at its highest. Nothing more
Cultural wasteland
>sick of indians
>wants to escape to ireland
lol
You've never worked a day in your life
Correct. If working and "work culture/banter" is as mundane and soulless as portrrayed in picrel I will stay a NEET.
The comedy isn't from the banter and while a lot of the show is reminiscent of an office its mainly a piss take of Australian politics
They make fun of the greens?
The show has multiple episodes making fun of "wokeness" but you're too dumb to realise it without the word woke being used 300 times
So do they make fun of the greens or not? Post some funny clips.
The show doesn't mention any political party by name
Well then post some funny clips making fun of "wokeness". Let us all laugh at the lunacy.
This is the weird thing about Australia, every average Aussie I've met has been fricking hilarious but your comedians are just fricking horrible
Comedy in a lot of places is filtered. In England unless you went through Cambridge Footlights or friends with someone who did you can go get fricked, in the US the comedy club bookers have to like you (think about what they all have in common) in Australia it is University theatre sports which theoretically anyone can get into but in practice you have to be embraced by the private school kids who have already been doing it for years helped by actual experienced acting coaches hired by their schools. Out of these, kids then get picked for open mics with university student crowds and out of these they get picked up by the public broadcaster for radio and tv work.
The best you can get are panel shows like Spicks and Specks from the mid 2000s.
the babadook?
australia is not the place you think it is, haven't seen a white person in about 6 months.
Boys in the trees
Sweethurt
Streets of colour
Our indie scene is pretty good but it seems the better stuff is stifled out by screen Australia only wanting to push abos.
>27 million people
>only 20 million Angloids
>all the talented ones move to London or America
>the rest are stuck under arts council communism
>>all the talented ones move to London
That amazes me. London is an absolute shit hole. The thought of leaving somewhere like Australia for that is baffling
Have you spent any time in Australia?
Nobody's stopping you from getting a camera and just going for it, but it's unlikely studios will pick it up unless they like its vibe, and they have very narrow vision (and a host of mates they're trying to take care of first)
Basically it's the same problem Hollywood has but Hollywood has a regular influx of talent and energy to keep it going
Also movies/TV is a collaborative medium and an expensive one so you're very limited in who you can get working for you and what you can do, hence the need to toe the line
And as anon mentioned gov't-funded stuff crowds everything else out anyway
No but I have spent time in London. There's no way in hell it's worse there
>Nobody's stopping you from getting a camera and just going for it,
24hrs in a day, and rent's not gonna pay itself
if people had loads of free time, lots of stuff would get created
The Hunter is one of my favorite films
Tasmania seems kino, not interested in the rest of Australia at all.
Three are several excellent Australian movie, but an anon in another thread mentioned that Screen Australia or whatever it's called now "selects" screenplays to sponsor based on DEI bs.
Even under those circumstances, Talk to Me and Late Night with the Devil, probably the most talked about recent horror movies, are Australian productions.
Sometimes I almost shit myself laughing thinking about Australia existing.
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One of our more embarrassing moments for sure. They’ve been pushing a mass acceptance of aboriginal culture on us for a few years now. Every public event nowadays must start with a long acknowledgment that we’re on their land and we pay respect to the elders and etc. etc. Ironically i live in Melbourne and I dont think i’ve ever actually met an abo in my whole life. They all live up in Alice Springs
I went to Melbourne for a week, saw 1 abo the whole time
>Every public event nowadays must start with a long acknowledgment that we’re on their land and we pay respect to the elders and etc. etc.
The hilarious part is that they have started to fight over the lucrative right to Welcome to Country ceremonies, Acknowledgement to country can be done by any boong but WtC can only be done from someone from the designated traditional owner tribe so in contested areas they are forced to admit that they didnt all sit around singing kumbaya until whitey kicked them out.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/dispute-between-traditional-owners-over-smoking-ceremony-delays-perth-freeway-ribbon-cutting/news-story/d7a7db164e7d3f18f3a172014d2d0fdf
This happened right in the lead up to voice referendum and along with another abo group trying to scam people around the same time blackpilled most of WA on abo shenanigans
neither. i also live in melbourne. i work in government and cant stop doing a deep breath and sigh every time some moron does one of those long BORING welcome to country things.
I heard in some big companies the worst thing is when you get middle aged women start trying to outdo each other by adding things.
>Ironically i live in Melbourne and I dont think i’ve ever actually met an abo in my whole life. They all live up in Alice Springs
Can't have them attacking all the Chinese students, otherwise the unis will go bankrupt
>Comments are turned off
>comments are turned off.
Bit odd, innit? Anyway, is that a dude or a chick?
Why don’t Americans cater to Native Amercians the way we do to Abos?
What Americans do with Native Americans (reservations etc.) is what Australia used to do with Aboriginals, up until like the 1960s. They lived on reservations, you couldn't take alcohol or various things in, and needed permits to go there. A vote was made to try integration instead, and it seemed to work up until the mid to late 2000s, at which point it started getting worse and didn't get better.
No. There was never really enough money for it, and the exportation of American culture, including movies from Tinseltown, meant that most studios in Australia stayed very small and/or survived off government funding, which over time came with more and more strings (like needing to include X, Y, Z).
>No. There was never really enough money for it
We never had a studio system but private investment in film was huge during the 70s and 80s but there was a tax offset which alleviated any risk for investors so people were happy to contribute their money to cinema.
Now there is no reason or incentive to do so.
>seemed to work
Absolutely did not work
>A vote was made to try integration instead
Oh for frick's sake stop spreading this half century old leftie propaganda...
Americans still by and large take pride in their nation, even if that's starting to dwindle.
Pride is a bad thing in our culture. We are too 'down to earth'. And that has allowed Marxists to get s foot hold in our understanding of our history. When I was in school 15 years ago we learnt about Australian colonial history in both a traditional way as well as through the lense of the Indigenous. My cousin who is 11 now didn't even know what the First Fleet was when I asked her earlier this year, but they are constantly doing school projects on Indigenous culture and even refugee bullshit. It's a sad state of affairs.
>Pride is a bad thing in our culture.
I was recently at a rodeo and country show in outback Australia while traveling. Happened to be in town, saw it setting up, was there for a week, so I went. Not deep outback, as you'd call it, but when the flag came out carried on horseback, everybody there stood, sang the anthem. Bowed heads for a prayer afterwards too, I even saw people crossing themselves. I found most of Australia's big cities to be no different from a big city in the US or anywhere else in the anglosphere, but I was definitely feeling like there was patriotism and pride further out. I didn't go to any Aboriginal areas but.
You won't find it in the cities or inner suburbs of the country because those places are mostly worthless metropolitan, and the same is true for the US if I'm honest. I think cities are where you'll always find most of the far left wing, and most of the media focuses there rather than what felt very different once I was outside that range.
So I guess media should focus further towards country.
Yep you'll always find more patriotism the further away from cities you get. The Abo loving is definitely an urban phenomenon too, as proven by the recent Indigenous Voice referendum.
But the problem with Australia is that it is so much more urban than the US. It's hard to do an apples to apples comparison because different studies will classify rural and urban differently, but 1 in 5 Americans live rural in the US vs closer to 1 in 10 in Australia. The population of Sydney and Melbourne alone make up 40% of our total population. To get 40% of the US population you would have to count their largest 23 Metropolitan areas, every metro area larger than San Antonio including places like Orlando, St Louis, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston etc.
Australia is basically like if New York and LA comprised 40% of the US population instead of less than 10%.
are we talking cbd alone?
if so that rings true tbh, though the majority of it seems to be new immigrants if you frequent those areas (which I do)
it's strange seeing a white face in the city of Sydney now tbh
but I am particular to korean food (meat that I have to cook myself) so I guess at least there's that
When we count the population of a city in Australia we are always talking about metro areas i.e. 'the greater Sydney region'. If you Google population of Sydney that's what you'll get, at 5.3 million.
However if you Google the population of an American city you will only get downtown area. So if you google population of LA you only get 3.8 million, which could lead someone to think Sydney has a greater population than LA which obviously isn't true. To get a like to like comparison you have to search for the population of the metropolitan area of a city, which for LA is 12 million.
Didn't that referendum end with everybody voting no?
It sure did but there was a clear urban/rural and inner city/suburban divide that hasn't been seen in normal electoral politics in Australia up to this point. Modern cultural politics, while relevant, are not as relevant between our two major parties as they are between Dems and Repubs over in the States. But the referendum was 100% a cultural politics issue which is why you saw the votes play out along lines more typical of US politics.
The only divide was between ACT and everywhere else
On a state and territory level, but on an electorate level the divide was stark and very different to the divide of federal elections.
As you can see in this image all the wealthier harbor and coastal electorates voted yes while the poorer Western suburbs voted no.
Compare that to the federal election where the inner city and outer suburbs both voted Labor. And it's the same in the regions. All the Labor voting regional electorates in NSW and Victoria voted No, while all the independent and even Liberal voting electorates in the inner city voted Yes. This referendum tore away the decades old party loyalty and was a pure reflection of leftist vs conservative social attitudes amongst Australians.
If Libs actually ran the way their base wanted, the divide would emerge (and they would win a landslide)
Agreed and that reveals the weakness of the Australian political system.
In the US when the Republicans had grown out of touch with the desires of the American people, Trump could simply force his way into their leadership by challenging them in the primaries.
There is no such mechanism in Australia to course correct a failing political party. There is a seriously underserved market in politics but the barrier to entry is too high to take advantage of it. Australians are rightfully apprehensive about giving the keys to the country to an unproven minor party. It would be much better if we could vote in the leader of the major parties instead so that they could take over the political machines that frankly take decades and even centuries to build.
I was under the impression that you can choose your party leader, you just have to be part of that party to have a vote? I also think compulsory voting and such in Australia is better than voluntary in the US. You are required to take part in your democracy on at least some minimal level, which keeps you from being completely apathetic outside a small base and requires chasing the centre of your country more than the fanatic fringes.
>I also think compulsory voting and such in Australia is better than voluntary
have a nice day
I bet you whine and moan when a leader you don't like gets in because not enough people could be fricked to vote at all
We're stuck will Liberal and Labor because the majority don't give enough of a frick to know what's going on and are pissed of they have to be there in the first place. Compulsory voting only enforces mediocrity.
Party leader is decided by the party, in the house of reps we just vote for our member to represent us then the PM is essentially determined by which party has the majority in the house of reps
>I also think compulsory voting and such in Australia is better than voluntary in the US. You are required to take part in your democracy on at least some minimal level, which keeps you from being completely apathetic outside a small base and requires chasing the centre of your country more than the fanatic fringes.
You could not be more wrong, anon
No party leadership is determined by party members i.e. actual politicians who run for office. The average person has zero say.
>There is no such mechanism in Australia to course correct a failing political party.
Yes there is and you pointed it out:
>Australians are rightfully apprehensive about giving the keys to the country to an unproven minor party
Australians get what they deserve... although the minor parties are at fault here too... and anyway, you're wrong. Greens are a minor party, they regularly get senators, MPs, and once controlled gov't. Minor parties get the balance of power in the senate all the time.
Aussies need to stop being gays and vote for One Nation, Family First, Great Australia, literally any right-wing meme party - especially the ones who want to cut migration. And the minor parties need to stop being gays and present an electable united front
That is the way the Liberals will be brought round, the same way the Greens pulled Labor leftwards
As far as I can tell, Australians are really apprehensive about changing anything about how their government works. The government is working almost entirely from a constitution that was written in 1900, only like half a dozen changes since and they're almost all minor.
Constitutional alterations are hard to get passed, the country is fundamentally divided between communists and normal people, and the electorate includes (by force) the 30+% of people who can't hardly fricking read let alone grasp parliamentary procedure
Holding the balance of power is trivial. At best you get to form government with one of the two large parties i.e. choose which of the big players gets to be boss. But it's not really a choice since your voters already know whether you lean towards Labor or Libs and you will be expected to form government with that party. And that party knows it too. You will be given some tokens by the major party and maybe you can force some of your policy by holding up legislation but ultimately you have no executive power and you can not appoint ministers, meaning the same shady characters will get to keep playing the same shady games they always do.
In theory a minor party could become a major party but that is a huge task in comparison to a system that allows any swinging dick to label himself as a representative of a major party and challenge the current seat holder of that party in a primary election.
You basically do have a minor party becoming a major party in those teal people. They're all run by one guy, all that needs to happen is formally registering so they stop all being "independent".
Major party? You are a fricking idiot.
>common funding
>common policies
>common branding
>shared organisational structure
>somehow not a political party
Who bets that if Clive Palmer had tried that the AEC would've shut him down
Your point was that the electorate doesn't trust minor parties, I say that if they'll give them the ability to hold the budget hostage for a meme policy then obviously they aren't that worried
Your broader point is wrong too, the Greens have gone from nothing to getting all their major policies implemented in 50 years; just 25 years ago there were nowhere, but they absorbed or destroyed all their competition and now they call the tune for Labor to dance to
One Nation could do the same thing
50 or even 25 years is a massive timescale in modern politics.
But of course you're right that in theory there is nothing forcing the Australian political system to be a two party system. But in practice that is what we have. There is a psychological effect to having this paradigm for so long that acts as a barrier to entry for political ideas that neither major party (or yes, the Greens now too) are willing to endorse.
The ability for a candidate with even the most radical views to wear the badge of Republican or Democrat by challenging in a primary is an undeniable advantage to such a candidate. In essense a party's policy position is voted on by the public before that policy is then taken to a general election. By contrast an Australian party is incentivised to keep their policy as close to the centre as possible while still differentiating themselves from their major competitors. And sure, if they do this to a fault then a minor party can start to eat away at their vote and in doing so pressure them to go further but compared to the US where a candidate is forced to go through a primary, this is a slow and inefficient process burdened by a marketing disadvantage and which ultimately doesn't even remove or replace the ineffectual party members from power, but rather forces them to shift their policy closer to what the people want. So you end up with the same spineless grubs in power at the end of the day.
>We are too 'down to earth'. And that has allowed Marxists to get s foot hold in our understanding of our history.
That's not true, Marxists have gotten a hold of England all the same and they're the furthest thing from 'down to earth'. It's just a global Western problem, not anything to do with Australia. If anything our 'down to earth' attitude preserves more of an insensitivity to pc culture, but that never formed into a united political force that could affect parties and legislation.
If there's anything that weakened Australia vis a vis communism it's geography: being far from the mother country it was easy for communists to undermine our connection to our own history and culture. Note that since WW2 we've changed
>currency
>flag
>national anthem
>national colours
to say nothing of the depiction of the historical relationship in media and education. I think being divorced from our own sense of self makes us easier marks for globohomo, but note that this is the same thing that happened to NZ, Canada, RSA, etc, etc, and also the UK
>If there's anything that weakened Australia vis a vis communism it's geography: being far from the mother country it was easy for communists to undermine our connection to our own history and culture. Note that since WW2 we've changed
Those Communists literally CAME from that mother country. They're the Australian Fabian Society, an offshoot of the original British Fabian society who are/have done the exact same shit in the UK.
>The Australian Fabians' Statement of Purpose states:[18]
>Australian Fabians promote the common good and foster the advance of social democracy in Australia through reasoned debate by:
>a) Contributing to progressive political thinking by generating ideas that reflect a level of thinking that meets the challenges of the times.
>b) Contributing to a progressive political culture by disseminating these ideas and getting them into the public domain.
>c) Creating an active movement of people who identify with, are engaged in and who encourage progressive political debate and reform, and
>d) Influencing the ideas and policies of political parties, especially the Australian Labor Party.
Their coat of arms is literally a wolf in sheeps clothing by the by.
they make preschoolers do the whole welcome to country shit and worshipping aboriginals as if they're magic beings
the country is done
shoulda kicked the queers and lefties out of the education system when you had the chance decades ago
Incorporating the entire history of humanity on your soil into your modern culture is fricking amazing. It's as soulful thing as it gets. Meanwhile Germans LARP that the Roman empire had anything to do with them. Pathetic.
Trust me, it sounds kino in concept but Aboriginals truly are unable to integrate into our modern society without causing issues. They want everything handed to them on a silver platter and our government does it for them. We spoil them so much, they have communities across Australia where our laws don't apply to them, so they get drunk all day, collect welfare and rape and assault others. Many of them are vile people
have a nice day fricking moron
I have noticed an interesting side effect of this, a lot of little kids are starting to notice that something stinks about all of this and with so many people willing to proudly proclaim their 1/16th descent they see those kids being entitled pricks because rules dont apply to them.
Have you seen Yellowstone? Or anything made by Tyler Sheridan? Kevin Costner is another one with dances with wolves which portrays the Lakota as the most peaceful tribe in America when the exact opposite was true.
The Indian tribes are legal entities, even sovereign nations that are supposed to be like protectorates of the federal government, unlike Australia with terra nullius. So I guess Australians must feel more responsible to abos because afaik until recently abo tribes didn't exist as legal entities that had allocations made to them.
>Australians must feel more responsible
It's all a israelite scam
Indian nations really were sovereign entities in their own right. I don't think the same can be said of stone age Abo tribes
A big part is that American Indians resists "Pretendians", here it is illegal to call someone that. As a result you get a lot of white grifters making a shitload of money who then advocate further.
I haven't even clicked the link yet but tell me if I'm right: Is it that one clip of some women (man?) on the piano and then two old aboriginals start 'singing?
Danger 5, Farscape, Dark City, The Lost World is also nice. I'm sure there are many others I can't remember right now.
Is it me or are Aussies damn natural actors? Whenever I've watched Australian media, it's rare to find someone who can't act. It all comes pretty effortless to them.
We're a nation of liars and exaggerators so to a degree acting seems embedded in our culture. Seriously, I don't know why but so many people lie here. I'm not excluding myself, I don't lie anymore but when I was younger I told the most fantastical bullshit. Around 50% of the population just seemingly never grow out of it.
>We're a nation of liars and exaggerators so to a degree acting seems embedded in our culture. Seriously, I don't know why but so many people lie here.
I'd wager it's the large Irish and Scots-Irish component of your founding population. I've noticed a similar tendency of lying (often without any intent of being believed), in Southern USA culture, who also have a large Scots-Irish (Irish to a lesser extent). "Drinking and tellin' lies."
Are all scots-irish calvinist trash or just the ones in the American South?
>get mad at White Christians, goy
Nah, don't think I will.
everyone's a drama queen here
all of those studios were created by based israelites early in the 20th century, they all went to america after fleeing russia and ukraine
AI tools will enable new types of studios to form within the next 10-20 years that can pump out films without sets, actors, etc
but it may still be too expensive to do anything in australia for anyone to try such things here
nobody bends over backwards as much as australia does
we should all start billing councils and govs for every "welcome to country" we have to sit through
wasting everyone's time every goddam day
I bet abos think it's stupid too
>I bet abos think it's stupid too
They fight each other over the right to perform welcome to country, very very lucrative.
There isn’t an Australian culture. We hardly have our own unique identity anymore, we’re just like any other “western world” country, other than the le funny accent and marsupials
>Getting shitfaced with mates at a bar, a backyard bbq/party or in the park
>Camping
>Going to the beach in summer
>Listening to american music, watching american tv, playing american vidya
>Going to sports games and paying for overpriced beer and food
I like Chopper, Animal Kingdom and Snow Town.
Mad Max 2 was good.
Can't think of any other good Aussie films off the top of my head. Crocodile Dundee is cringe. Australians only like it because we get off on portraying ourselves as rugged bushmen to the rest of the world when in reality we are one of the most urban populations of any nation on the planet.
HUGE ACT MAN
I pitched a TV show in one of those screen Australia initiatives involving a scene with a bottle being used as a telescope with magic markings in it. Was turned down and then a year later Aquaman came out funded by Screen Australia who made them film here, and the exact fricking scene was in the movie.
I hope they all die.
What is the Screen Australia pitching process now? Did you actually get to a meeting with people or was it all online submissions followed by a rejection letter?
Not anon but they run regular online initiatives that you only win if you have aboriginal heritage or you are a queer woman (in the actual requirements of the most recent one you NEEDED a woman and an aboriginal on the team).
Then there's the route of making it yourself then getting funded after to help with post and distribution which unless you get enough buzz overseas or get into a big festival or have an A list actor, they won't care.
Hugo Weaving is the only gem supporting Indies by agreeing to act in them if the script is good. He actually came to my last film premiere because he just goes to the same theatre every few weekends and it just coincided. We are talking only about 50k budget. Got his contact details to bypass managers and bullshit to tell him when I make the next thing so I'm hoping to get him involved in some way. He's a real one.
>reddit spacing
>homosexual brackets
go back
>distribution
Have you heard of... the internet?
how many people read your blog, homosexual?
>No one has ever become famous on the internet
Keep crying about how the corrupt sclerotic system with the shrinking audience won't help you, or just do it yourself online and sink or swim under your own steam
Easy choice homosexual
>or just do it yourself online and sink or swim under your own steam
>sink or swim
Yeah, one of these isn't going to happen. You sound like one of these boomer homosexuals who tells kids to walk into a corporate office and demand a job.
i can't think of a single prominent australian online person except friendlyjordies (who got fricking firebombed for milquetoast shit, can you imagine any usa video blogger getting firebombed.) also our internet infrastructure is shit and peak australian times for streaming are shit numbers because the internet is built around american timezones.
>can you imagine any usa video blogger getting firebombed.
Yeah they tend to avoid shit talking violent organised criminal networks because they have a reputation for...violence. Threats do alter speech, think of South Park knocking off their Muhammed shit. Also American streamers have been shot.
>>he came to my premiere
>just happened to be there
kek
It doesn't take a genius to comprehend this
I comprehend it perfectly, you're trying to get away with claiming Hugo Weaving attended the premiere of your movie
What was the movie btw
What options in funding assistance, if any, are available if I just want like $10k-$20k to make a short film or a tv series pilot?
>Are you a boong? Are you a woman? Are you a boong woman?
Seriously how long is a piece of string?
You think Screen Australia is letting Hollywood screenwriters look at their slush pile for ideas?
sue them
australian copyright actually gives creators rights to defend their ideas, if you have it all documented, it's an easy win
you can get some of that aquapie
Everything by Peter weir
Damo and Darren and Michael Cusack in general, picnic at hanging rock, U2 and Silverchair
Australian kids shows are pretty good especially the ones funded by taxpayers money like this one:
Its against the law in Australian to encourage your kid not to be a troony.
why do you keep making this thread?
I'm pretty sure op is a troony. It's always makes a point of identifying itself and trying to groom people, also
pozzed government who control everything
Have you ever? Ever felt like this?
Had strange things happen?
season 1 fiona mogged hard
Vote One Nation.
Controlled opposition. They have israelites and street shitter in the party.
You still have to vote for them or another minor RW party if you want immigration to actually maybe somehow go down
The israelite won't allow it to go down
better just have a nice day then
australians are the queens of comedy
Art production/education in modern day Australia is seriously the most cucked homosexual industry of all time it's genuinely fricking hilarious to be a part of it
Does this count as Australian media?
His video on how to get a council house was gold, think he took it down though
yeah, that counts, and he's really turned his life around
It makes stupid hot people but little else. It's been a common refrain how there's been no great truly Australian novelist, they all become expats more associated with their host country.
Whatsa matter c**t you don't like Tim Winton?
depends if you want to be a suburban normie or a success in arts/entertainment
>Whatsa matter c**t you don't like Tim Winton?
NTA but I hate Tim Winton. His books are just so fricking boring.
Monolith was a good recent indie movie
Peter Weir Movies
Wake in Fright
Breaker Morant
That's pretty much it, there are more that i enjoy but aren't worth mentioning.
>My Brilliant Career
>Animal Kingdom
>Rabbit Proof Fence
>Lion
>Walkabout
>Muriel's Wedding
>Next Of Kin
>Romper Stomper
>Mad Dog Morgan
>Lantana
>The Nightingale
>Talk To Me
>The Crow and Dark City
>all the kino ozsploitation flicks
>all the countless actors/craftsmen/producers/studios from there that have kickstarted some of the biggest Hollywood franchises ever
>"That's pretty much it, there are more that i enjoy but AREN'T WORTH MENTIONING."
>mfw
>The Crow
The one with Brandon Lee?
yup, Alex Proyas is from down under
his career went into the shitter but one thing's for sure he's never boring
and that are many more classics i'm forgetting about
The Crow was filmed in North Carolina. It's not an Australian movie, if it was there probably wouldn't have been so many live rounds on set and Lee might still be alive.
You'd have a point 15 years ago but America only produces trash nowadays too only in higher quantities.
The government doesn't tend to subsidise creative pursuits very much, and when they do, it's some quota shit that just makes the networks pump out shit-tier reality shows because they're the cheapest way to fill those quotas.
Just wait for all of the asiancel classics, the next golden era of media will be asian, indian, arab incels out of Australia.
The majority of them are enslaved to uber so they won't be making movies any time soon
The guys that come here to deliver food are not capable of creating anything.
nanny state
here's why
Great list of videos, thanks anon.
>Steve Hughes
England loves/promotes sport more than Australia, what's he talking about
Australia's self-declared status as a sporting superpower is what's forced, people here don't actually like it that much
My favorite movie is Loved Ones but I'd never tell anyone that except my bros on Cinemaphile
Dole bludgers and P plate hoons are to blame! We need to make more laws and restrict more freedoms!
Family values are out of focus with the prime minister on the internet.
Elon and internet have already been over what can happen. I don't think 25 million people should be voicing opinions.
>Alone AUSTRALIA.
>Season TWO.
>Filmed in New Zealand...
A national embarrassment.
You are aware most of Alone USA is filmed in Canada right? Also the first season was way worse since they couldn't hunt anything
> white man comes and asks coon what this place is called
> Ah that's woonganatta brudda
> What about this thing
> That's a miggee diggeroo
Boongs literally just make up names on the fly.
>What are your people called?
> We da ngarrandjirri and dem over the river are da googly booglees
We pay them to have a sacred connection to the land, lo and behold, turns out they have a sacred connection to the land
Would love to know how many such anthropological discoveries post-date the era when we were promising them money for it
>Would love to know how many such anthropological discoveries post-date the era when we were promising them money for it
They will basically say anything you want regarding "oral history"
Well its a shithole full of bootlickers for one.
Even when they don't produce much, it's still better than whatever post-war Germany has produced in the last half century. You don't know suffering until you've watched German-produced movies.
Nuke every capital city and all the limp wristed vaxxed homosexuals who live in them
Especially op the vaccinated reddit troony who sucks off stairman.
Because the Australian film industry is extremely nepotistic and the same dozen or so talentless hacks get hired for just about every single gig. It's basically a tax money grift that a few individuals are all in on.
Several reasons; in a nutshell, political and ideological apathy, and a mindset of authoritarianism and following orders, which stifles creativity.
Never forget that Australia is made up of the gaoled AND their gaolers.
heave ho unna
australia is too comfortable and australians are too incurious. we also lack any form of funding for the arts or, on a population level, much appreciation for them. what part of our arts industry does exist is so small and incestuous that it's virtually impossible to get a break into it. so australian creatives do one of two things: give up or move to the US.
we have no great mythology. we have no culture. even classics like "the castle" are pretty fricking cringe if you treat them like you'd treat any serious film. mad max is probably the only australian media that has stood the test of time.
even aunty donna are just nakedly doing tim and eric (and outright plagiarising doom house for one of their school skits.) so much of australian media just feels like bad copies of stuff from america.
remember "Bondi Hipsters"? They were based on a group of people who flooded that area during a brief boom in the Australian film industry hoping desperately to make connections.
>even aunty donna are just nakedly doing tim and eric (and outright plagiarising doom house for one of their school skits.) so much of australian media just feels like bad copies of stuff from america.
Before the internet and cable/pay tv Media Watch used to show comparisons of Australian tv that was blatantly ripping off American work. One of the notorious examples was Tonight Live with Steve Vizard simultaneously played to show how he not only copied off David Letterman's monologue word for word but even standing at the same stage marks and hand actions. Even politically we do this during the "Freedom Ride" where communists took boong students into the country they werent actually going to any specific things they knew were happening to protest as being racist they just hoped to stumble onto something which is why they settled on a segregated pool instead of anything more serious.
also, a lot of our creative industries are out of date. some australian literary agents, in the age of email, demand that you submit to no other agents while they're assessing your manuscript. yeah, no agent in this country is that good to demand something stupid like that given it might take 2-3 months for them to get back to you.
Suck my dick, op, i am reporting you and you will get banned!
All the good actors and actresses go to usa
I'm an Australian artist with a dozen credits. I've received more support and connections from fricking New Zealand than my home country. Statistically, assistance from people within Australia has been insignificant. I've also been barred from representation because they "already had an Australian" despite the person in question being a Kiwi. It sucks dick. You're basically a minority token but not BIPOC so it's the worst of all worlds.
You sound like a fricking whiner.
>I've also been barred from representation because they "already had an Australian" despite the person in question being a Kiwi.
When someone tells someone else a very obvious lie, they are trying to tell you something. How could you be as old as you are and not know that?
it produces the best media