Why is this so bad compared to BOB and TP? Don't get me wrong TP was fricking bad, but compared to this shitshow its a masterpiece. The frick happened to this team?
Kinda want to drop it at this point.
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Why is this so bad compared to BOB and TP?
It's already on par with the Pacific, maybe even a little better. The worst thing about it is that combat will not take place outside of planes, which makes the war scenes pretty repetitive.
Delusional
It’s not that bad
The problem is zoomer boys have no gravitas. They don’t feel like guys who grew up in the 1930’s they feel like soft milkshake zoomer gays
The main guys are all 30-something millennials.
The one guy seems like he’s supposed to be older. The drunk commander dude Bucky
The other guy is young af
Eggggggg-xactly. Look at today's male stars. They make Michael J. Fox look macho.
Your idea of late war soldiers is skewed, they were all young as frick.
RAF Bomber aircrew had an average age of 19, and pilots an age of 21. It would have been very similar in the USAF. The main crew in the show would be considered extremely old by war aviator standards
this may be true but we dont want to watch young homosexuals on screen. Im sorry you guys cant act.
The Pacific was fricking gay, homosexual.
>The Pacific was bad
Maggoty rice eating shitposter detected
>the Pacific was bad
The only reason you dumb zoomer homosexuals don't like the Pacific is because it's about killing japs, and you're all a bunch of slant eyed loving yellow monkey weaaboo homosexuals
It took the whole show to get to that episode which is the only good one. The entire series is just padding to eventually witness Remi Malek throw a rock into a dude's head. There's no other reason it deserves to exist.
The very first episode is the battle of guadalcanal, you fricking moron. There's more action on one episode of the Pacific than there is in the entirety of BoB
have a nice day, you fricking weeb
The combat in that series sucks, but it's really the lack of good characters that brings it down. I watched Pacific airing, and it was a universal let down.
No you didn’t, and you have to be 18 to post here
That's the whole fricking point you moron both BOB and TF isn't a fricking action show. It's about brotherhood. The only thing this show did right is about how pilots view war as a game when soldier's view war as a horror.
You don't believe what you're saying
Oh look, it's those two episodes where the curly haired israelite guy falls in love with the Greek girl. Gtfo the Pacific is utterly moronic, BOB is kino
Def some weird zoomer post irony take to hate BOB (which is universally loved and praised) kind of like saying 9/11 didn’t happen and it was cgi
the lmaocaust episodes are worse than some shitty romance subplot it makes BOB unwatchable
crazy how kino that show is then we get a lenture on the holocaust for 2 episodes.
You think that's bad, the Das Boot series has a lmaocaust AND shitty romance subplot happening in each episode of season 2. two thirds of the fricking season is taken up by plots outside of U-Boat kino. The israelite one at least manages to be written somewhat well, but the romance subplot was fricking godawful
>can’t count
>can’t identify a white man
>can’t distinguish between fiction boomerslop and kino
Yep it’s a zoomer.
why don't the japs shoot their weapons from behind cover or something
Early war banzai tactics
Autism.
>Okinawa
>early war
>why don't the japs shoot their weapons from behind cover or something
jap infantry tactics consisted of zerg rushes, it worked really well against garbage troops like the Chinese, Indians, and British
didn't work well against American machine guns or against the Aussies who weren't tea sipping pussies
I love the jap killing. But why put in episodes about romance, and leckie dicking around in Australia? Yeah so interesting. Sledge and snafu redeemed it though.
Australia helped fund the show if they filmed in Australia.
>But why put in episodes about romance, and leckie dicking around in Australia?
Thats one of the best episodes though even more sad that he died because he wanted to go back to the war instead fricking prime austrialian dicky.
BoB was just a great telling of an amazing story, TP just seemed off to me, it felt more like marine corps propaganda than anything else not sure why.
>marine corps propaganda
Describe your bedroom and how many Japanese made products you own and consume, you fricking weeb gaygit
Kek the programming got you good and proper
>Kek the programming got you good and proper, snake, the Japanese never did anything wrong
Nope, the japs got what they deserved, I'm just pointing out that TP feels more like USMC propaganda than anything.else.
I love "Pacific" and hate japs - and I am asian.
Years ago I realized I'm just done with WWII content. Being a Eurogay it was already extremely prominent in the cultural zeitgeist when I was growing up, and as you get older you end up learning a lot about it. Family stories included. Part of it is the American perspective, which is hard to take seriously when you learn exactly how hard the US mogged everyone else in the war. It's hard to take that "war is Hell" message to heart when it's delivered by guys for whom war was the least hellish, who got to go home to an untouched country, who had insane numerical and technological advantages. It's also hard to root for characters who are fighting for less than anyone else in the war, given how the necessity of the war is often played up. But I'm also tired of the strange mix of heroism and defeatism in my own culture surrounding the war. Valiant resistance fighters hiding English pilots and all that.
The actual reality of war just seems to take a back seat. War is hell because it happens to you, and there's nothing you can do about it. All my ancestors who survived the war? Luck. Pure luck, mostly. One was charismatic, which saved his ass. Another was an extremely skilled soldier. But plenty of those people still got done in.
One of the most valuable assets of the Gestapo in my country was a israeli woman, who ratted out hundreds of fellow israelites. That's a story I want to see.
>hate japs - and I am asian.
That's not very unusual, though.
>One of the most valuable assets of the Gestapo in my country was a israeli woman, who ratted out hundreds of fellow israelites. That's a story I want to see.
that does sound like fertile ground for a kino
Why did 80% of Nazis surrender
so they could get cushy government jobs in the US
>literally mention the Gestapo as an example of war being hell
>yOu MuSt LiKe ThE nAzIs
You hit the bot's keywords
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The only thing bad about the pacific was the weirdo in picrel.
> goes to war to kill people
> comes back alive and complains he had to kill people
Anyone who likes this character is a moron.
>guy gets tricked into wanting to kill people because of propaganda
>gets sad after killing a bunch of people and going home
It's not a very unique tale, that happens all the time.
His israeli phenotype was really distracting, very ugly looking. I wish they replaced him. Plus hes always whiny.
this. not liking the pacific is literally a sign of low intelligence
can't wait until the episode where they bomb civilian targets indiscriminately.
-orchestra music swells-
>The Pacific
>bad
moron
Oh hey, look, it’s another dumbfrick contrarian bait thred without a single coherent critical argument!
The Pacific blows BoB the frick out so hard that for you to call it "bad" I have to think you're legitmiatey brain damaged
Is this the new Cinemaphile contrarian take? People like you would defend eating shit if Reddit was against it.
Ditch this guy and stateside Basilone and The Pacific clears BoB. As soon as it becomes about Sledgehammer and his squad the show becomes 10/10.
Unforgivably that’s only half the show but I agree
Should have just been about sledge
Crazy that that's the kid from Lord of the Flies
Literally the only thing I remember from TP was the storyline with this guy pissing himself.
I completely forgot about that plotline.
Only issue with the pacific is that it should have been based off the Eugene sledge book instead of trying to go everywhere in the theater.
Wanted to cover the whole war, Helmet for my pillow sure ain't bad
And that was a mistake
BOB is so good because you follow a single group through their war experience
If BOB was three different storylines that sort of kinda overlapped nobody would have loved it like they do
Definitely one of the shows faults, if they could find decent material to do a concurrent thing throughout they would have.
Honestly looks like they're going to do the exact same thing here, adding the tuskagee.
The whole thing with some being POWs was a way to add more than just flying to the episodes
>have to have Tuskegee guys to make comments shorn how great blacks are and how mistreated blacks are
>pow plot will almost certainly cover the Holocaust
It’s all so tiresome
you forgot the one where the strapping, and very muscular Tuskegee pilot falls for pretty communications officer on base, and gets blowback by some milquetoast white guy.
Of course. Content doesn't get greenlit know without promoting the agenda.
there are POWs in this?
Based on the preview some of the characters end up as pow’s at some point
It’s not really there fault that the Pacific begins way earlier than BoB and then continues well after it in fighting. BoB only jumps in mid 44, eleven months before wars end
The Pacific should have been purely about the 6 weeks of combat sledge saw.
It should have been contained in one episode, 45 minutes long.
Only a mail in rebate should have allowed people to see the episode via a DVD usps delivered copy
Except that BoB is fiction and tedious, while the pacific is based on real accounts and is honest in its portrayal.
Frick freedom, i'd only fight for a QT blonde aussie gf tbh
She is currently getting CHINKED
>go to allied country frick their women leave
>nothing personal kangaroo bros
>y-you don't believe what you're saying!
This show is so fricking boring and the cgi is a mess. No diversity injected yet but it’s coming
Literally impossible unless they just go full fake nonsense. There were no blacks on any b52’a ever
Tuskegee are coming
Nogs are in the trailer and there were no b52s in WW2
so far there have been no Black folk outside of the title sequence
the second they show up is when I stop pirating the show
A man has to have a code.
>zoomers need action every 3 minutes or they get bored
You gays are literally worse than boomers
I don't find the plight of bomber crews all that interesting to be honest.
Bombers had the highest death rate in the war
Doesn't make it any more compelling.
Yeah but bombers couldn't shoot back so I understand why it'd be boring.
have you seen 12 o'clock high? It's my personal favorite ww2 movie.
like it or not you have to respect the work that goes into making shows like this.
It’s all CGI and the combat is far less true to life than the others.
What am I supposed to be respecting?
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The worst thing about this show is the action is 100% unrealistic, do you idiots honestly think Germans planes fly in a close formation with only a few feet separating them like in Star Wars? Want realistic aviation battles? Watch Dunkirk, but I doubt you zoomer homosexuals even know what movie I'm talking about.
There is a balance between 100% realism and entertainment
If you really are hung up that the German planes fly too close together and the action is too exciting it’s because you are autistic
How did you managed to tell me you're a fricking capeshit watching homosexual without telling me you're a capeshit watching homosexual.
shoo you autistic wehraboo
Dunkirk was Battle of Britain on xanax. Planes didn't move that politely in combat unless they were piloted by raw recruits.
Dunkirk was one of the best war movies in recent years, but Americans can't watch anything without continuous fireworks and a bald eagle riding a mobility scooter at the end.
>Dunkirk was one of the best war movies in recent years
>30 extras on the ground in any one frame instead of the hundreds of British and French troops that were there in real life
>shots of modern dunkirk with with literal satellite dishes on the roof and newly manufactured sun bathing areas with smart ready BBQ sets, flat screen TVs and Sun Sensitive(tm) automatic awnings
>one singular aerial battle that involved 3 (three) planes total because that's all Nolan's production company could afford to put up, instead of using cgi to simulate the dozens upon dozens of aircraft that were all in the air throughout the evacuation, to showcase the huge air battles that were taking place
If you ever get the chance, you should have a nice day, you fricking historylet piece of shit
Tom Hardy was more kino than any bullshit cgi battle could have ever been and you know it Black person
It was to subtle and understated 90% of people didn’t know what was go. Britts did but Americans that aren’t history buffs don’t know shit about dunkirk
People should tend to not know what's going on when you make three stories of varying time periods, intercut them and show different takes of that are supposed to be depicting the same event.
The German fighters did fly in close formation though, especially when attacking the bombers on their return trip to England. Larger groups of fighters would parallel the formation outside machine gun range and small groups of two to four fighters would peel off, pick a bomber, and attack it head on or from below, concentrating their machine gun and cannon fire. In this way they would chew up whole formations of bombers while they were still outside the defensive envelope provided by Allied fighters.
>Watch Dunkirk, but I doubt you zoomer homosexuals even know what movie I'm talking about
I assumed the original dunkirk from 1958, but you meant that posh british twats movie didnt you.
Competency crisis. Hollywood literally can't make anything good anymore. Young actors suck and have no screen presence. Digital cinematography makes everything blurry and ugly. Writing is uniformly atrocious across genres. Directors are more concerned with immersion and turning movies into experiences than they are with acting and storytelling.
The pacific was fricking great. Just skip any stateside scenes and the show is 10/10. The battles, the horrors of the pacific war is so well done.
This, Bob is fairytale bullshit collated by a known sharlatan that had a hard on for paratroopers
You do realize his son wrote the book for The Pacific right? That and the show were hot garbage.
No it's garbage full of CGI. Budget Flags of our Fathers with the most boring camera work and editing possible.
In band of brothers they had to run around in boot camp and shit for weeks with explosions around them; also BoB had high tier actors like fassbender just getting blown up and shot randomly. This was in development hell for over a decade, I remember when Tom Hanks was supposed to direct it.
It's bad because it's a boring subject - bomber pilots. Simple as that, nobody can make that subject matter more than a mediocre story at best.
Why yes I dropped incendiary bombs on women and children and became a war hero how could you tell?
The first two episodes of the Pacific weren't that great either. It was a much better watch seeing every episode at your own pace.
Does Butler still do his elvis voice? I don't know if I can stand watching much more of that walking jawline with the silky buttery southern voice.
He's permanently an octave lower than his voice a few years ago but he's not playing Elvis.
Watched the first two episodes. It was alright.
One question tho. Didn't bomber squadrons or whatever have fighter escorts? These dudes are just flying over German occupied territory without fighter planes?
I liked the first two episodes. I disagree with anons saying bomb crews weren't interesting.
Not until the start of 1944 did they have escorts capable of making deep penetrations into Germany.
For England James.
They're still pre D-Day in this show. A lot of those kinds of tactics hadn't been developed yet
What a moronic post
Elaborate
They're escorting each other.
The flying fortress really was a failed concept it seems like
war is all about theory until someone actually starts trying to actually kill you, it's funny how so many pre-WW2 ideas ended up being utter shit once the bullets start flying
Just look at Ukraine today
Drones and Sam’s have made ww2 style combined arms combat into a death sentence.
Mine spam is OP
this is true for pretty much every war, it was a lot worse for ww1 where no country predicted the static trench warfare so every army started the war with mainly light mobile field artillery that was designed to fire by line of sight, instead of the heavy artillery it turned out they were going to need.
I still think tankettes were a great idea
Looks like one grenade would be enough to make it useless.
And yet the Ukranians love their surplus Wiesels with diy-mount TOW launchers, work great as shoot & scoot tank hunters. Small armoured weapon carriers are great for mobile warfare so long as you don't try and go head-to-head with real tanks, the only reason you don't see them more these days is NATO doctrine revolves around air superiority, letting them airdrop bigger vehicles from bigger planes with airborne infantry who get full-fat AFVs nowadays, and gives the ability to provide even heavier support from helicopters or ground attack jets. The situation in Ukraine is showing up a lot of NATO doctrine as moronic and myopic, but the total reliance on air dominance is one of the biggest - the Western military industrial complex does great at bullying sheep herders in caves with AKs, but establishing total air dominance in a peer/near-peer fight against somewhere like China isn't going to be that easy. At the very least, tankette style vehicles should be part of a military's available reserve so they're *capable*(along with abunch of other things obviously) of handling conflicts without total air superiority.
Nato deploys americas funniest home videos?
Air Superiority against china will be easy as pie. Almost all of their designs are stolen cheap knockoffs and I'm pretty sure they don't even know how half of it works. Ukraine gets hand me downs and they are wrecking soviet air power. Imagine what the actual US airforce and navy could do for reals.
The US spends billions of defense and people are surprised when their shit actually works.
>Wiesels
What? Ukrainians didn't get any wiesels.
Also the war in Ukraine isnt really indicative of how an actual theoretical war between NATO or the US/chyna would go since both sides are shitholes that can't establish air superiority and are using moronic slav tactics that leads to everything getting bogged down in trenches
You don’t even need explosive, those shitboxes were vulnerable to AP small arms
Cute, but useless.
Yeah shit payload and too many guns.
Fighters lacked the fuel capacity to go that far.
I later in the war they had fighter escorts
They were escorted 90% of the way to and from, only for about 20-30mins deep into Germany were they not without fighter escort until fighters started carrying drop tanks in huge numbers.
Contrary to popular belief, the P-51 was not the magical long range escort fighter the USAAF needed, there's was just a weird push against not supplying P-38s and P-47s with drop tanks in large numbers until late 1943. By the time the P-51Ds escorted bombers in masse the Luftwaffe in the western front had already been smashed with the P-47 accounting for most of Germany's aircraft losses.
I'm positive the show is going to rewrite history though and have the P-51 save the day
Most people who have any interest in WW2 planes already think the P51 saved the day. It's hardly rewriting anything when most people already believe it.
>Most people who have any interest in WW2 planes already think the P51 saved the day.
No, those would be the morons who grew up watching the 'history' channel. People who really do have an actual interest read books instead and know better
Yes, that's most people
>*are the ones who watched the history channel and only had a vague passing interest in it
Based jug. P47 gets sidelined because it's a fat boy
same story with B-24 vs B-17. the liberator was built in larger numbers and contributed more to the war effort. but it's an uggo so the B-17 gets to be the hero plane
In 1943 the bomber wings had 1 in 10 crewmen die on every single mission. More bomber aircrewmen died in the war than marines.
No shit the Marines only had 6 divisions the entire war
Germany is saved (in my mind)
Not Germany, 2020 chudism
Inshallah
>Why is this so bad compared to BOB and TP?
because it's hard to surpass BOB and TP
How do you not identify air sickness in an airman during training and reassign them?
It was annoying how they did this. I think I was supposed to feel bad for him but it just mafe me hate the character for being a fricking moron. It's like having the calvary show up but they don't know how to ride horses. I'll probably skip the rest of the show and watch the battles on youtube next year.
>buck
>bucky
Suck my dick.
That's what the real guys called each other. Sorry your zoomer brain can't distinguish two different people because of one letter
It's the fact that they thought the story was intresting enough to be told in the opening scene. By a woman. To a table full of people who mostly already knew the story except one b***h we'll never see again. And the story was so fricking bland I couldn't have guessed it.
The writing is weak, to say the least.
I'm critical of the show so far too, don't act like such a disingenuous moron
>disingenuous
my granddad was a navigator and had zero sense of direction, he almost got his bristol beaufighter shot down because he forgot to turn on the IFF.
not identifying air sickness in an airman sounds par for the course in ww2 to me.
I watched the first ep and thought it was pretty good, what's your problem?
I'm going to give you the answer to everything about current entertainment. Ready?
Millennials and Zoomers are in charge now. That's why it's all woke unwatchable trash devoid of quality, depth, and humanity.
Note, I'm not saying Spielberg and Hanks aren't subversives, but they and those of their generation knew how to make quality entertainment at least.
have you actually watched the show
I saw a billboard for it and that's all I need to know.
there's a general competency crisis across the US atm with zoomies/millennials. They can't do literally anything, from plumbers to NASA. So all the talent in any field is slowly dying out and their replacements can't maintain the system they've inherited.
It's actually the #1 biggest issue in the US atm but both sides ignore it for like global warming/racisms and woke stuff/jews respectively.
>there's a general competency crisis across the US atm with zoomies/millennials.
and I suppose you're the exception?
where do you think the competency crisis comes from? every other week there's a new outrage about how companies are hiring Black folk and women over white men because the government has mandated they do so. all the way back to the beginning of life, where the school system itself punishes you for being white (and asian) and male, and rewards you for being black and female. you got top universities like harvard poaching black women with SATS of 1400 where if you're white male or asian then you have to write a long essay about how much you hate yourself to get in even with a perfect score.
you got the navy crashing planes and sinking ships left and right, because nobody's being trained properly because the diversity & inclusion programming takes precedence, and when confronted with reports on this the leadership vows to increase DEI programs rather than fix the competency problem. I'm 40 now and my entire adult life )so last 20 years) I've literally been told to my face in the workplace that I won't get promotions because I am white and male, while they keep promoting utter morons to positions of prestige purely because of their race and sex. oh and because, as the 1400 black chick getting poached to hardvard implies, because there literally just aren't enough competent non-white males in the country to fill these positions, but they need to be filled by non-white/males anyway, guess what fricking happens? they get filled by fricking morons.
but oh gee, "the competency crisis is the REAL problem, NOT all the woke shit that DIRECTLY LEAD TO IT".
fricking moron.
"If they hired REAL people and not based on diversity, it'd be fine!"
No, it wouldn't. Black folk/women are barely more competent then the non-Black person/women millenials and zoomies
PS I don't mean to insult Ms and Zs ITT. But the ones in the entertainment industry have made clear who they are.
xers are getting worse than israelites with their projection
And who are leading the moronic millennials and the ticktocking zoomers? Oh yeah some braindead gen x moron who only got the job because their parents knew someone in the industry
I do like how they cast actors who actually look young, most war pictures don't so it's easy to forget the people doing this were 17-21.
Not true the average age of combatants in the war was 25 and like 40% of all uniformed soldiers were over 30
The pilots and navigators are all seasoned officers probably in their late 20’s or even older
In case anyone cares, none other than Clark Gable actually made a film showing live B-17 missions. The man was in his 40s and still flew secretly when the army was trying to ground him for fear of him getting shot down.
>While he hoped for another combat assignment, he had been placed on inactive duty and on June 12, 1944, his discharge papers were signed by Captain (later U.S. president) Ronald Reagan.
Who writes this shit?
Yup and chads like Jimmy Stewart interrupted the peak of their careers to fight in the war. Imagine, say, Chalamet or Jonathan Majors volunteering for bombing runs.
Imagine how many germs he took out.
Truly the Greatest generation
Maths is abbreviated like that because it's short for mathematics
For me? It's skies of ww2 by Jason Biggs
still hard to believe he's not a israelite
>Jason Biggs is a pilot for a commercial airline in the UK. In his spare time he teaches aerobatics and previously trained fighter pilots for the RAF. He has always loved flying and has had a fascination for the aircraft and airmen of WW2 since he was small boy. He drives a 1965 Silver Birch Aston Martin DB5 and has a burning ambition to buy his own Spitfire.
Cinemaphile tried to lie to me again
Man, I just watched picrel, why don't we ever discuss golden Cinemaphile? No unwanted dialogue, no bullshit women logic, just awesome tv
There are least two established Generation Kill Cinemaphile memes.
>TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
>POLICE THAT MOUSTACHE / HARD DRIVE
you're both newbies
I'll have you know I've been here for a solid two weeks.
Well I am an election tourist, so a board veteran at this point, but I have never seen generation kill discussed here ever
lurk moar
2020 election no doubt.
I'm calling in a fire mission on this thread
Sir, tell me exactly what you're doing
sir that's danger close
This shit was great and captain america did nothing wrong.
The book explains that most of the "bad" officers were actually kinda good but were desk jockeys who were thrust into command of an elite unit and were over their heads
I'm glad that people are finally respecting The Pacific
It's been a battle but people have spoken up for the Pacific for a long time now. The Australia episode just still bothers incels
I get it but I'm glad that their is no argument now, it's BoB and The Pacific vs MoA. I'm glad people are finally respecting The Pacific.
It's literally only Cinemaphileranny trannies who jerk off to pokemon anime porn and have posters of hideo Kojima on their wall that have a problem with it
i'm so sick of kojima that fricking hack
It was all but guaranteed the moment they got their hands on it.
I really don't understand how they manage to be so absolutely consistent at making:
> neat premise
> good cinematography
> onsite shooting in authentic feeling locations
> dogshit plot
> mediocre acting
Also ugly looking cast
How do they frame it so that terror bombing the cities of a defeated country without a functioning air force is heroic?
Wow, a valid concern that doesn't just use baby-brained reactionary ideology and myths with arguments rooted in misogyny, racism, or antisemitism. I'm not sure you belong here
>defeated
absolutely not
>no functioning air force
unless this takes place in the last two months of the war, also untru
>terror bombing
it was targeting German industry, but you have a good point here as German bombing also targeted industrial and logistical points. When you have weapons with a CEP of a quarter to a half kilometer, you have to take out the whole town.
Halfway through the second episode, really boring so far. The two main dudes are boring and not charismatic at all, and I don't mean boisterous in any way, but nothing notable. Why the frick did they name them Buck and Bucky, and if it's a real life thing at least change it for the show. Band of Brother's first two episodes are arguably the best ones, this show doesn't even come close.
I can't be the only one who thinks Angelina Jolie of all people directed a better bomber scene than these guys....right?
It's very nice. Crisp visuals and subdued shakiness. Bay's scene still looks amazing, despite that they're flying too low.
I mean...it is better. Markedly so, not just looks wise but acting, dialogue, camera angles are significantly better. And even the dodgy CGI in places is no worse than MotA. It's probably the best depiction of a bombing run.
WTF bros. This series would've been better directed by a woman.
There's still inaccuracies, but it's mostly stuff I can forgive like noise, in reality those engines so goddamn loud you couldn't hear someone shouting in your ear much less talk, but obviously no one wants to watch 15mins of BRRRRRRRRRRRR.
But yeah, it's well done. And really makes Fukanagas direction look lazy, I mean they should have a B-17 set to play with, there hasn't even been a tracking shot inside it in 2 episodes.
I like how they barely even mention the cold up there, it was easily -40, -50F or even colder. But no one even has fog breath while they're talking, no one's face is red and raw, it couldn't be more obvious they're inside an air conditioned green screen studio in Pinewood or wherever they're making this.
The bomber crews lost more people to frostbite than battle. At least put some ice cubes in their underwear or something, shit.
The dude got frostbite on his ass and another on his hands in like the first episode you stupid Black person.
You morons realize BoB and Pacific's are true stories based in memories? arguing about the content of the series is supremely moronic as all they did was follow closely follow peoples stories from books they wrote.
Yeah, except for when they knowingly made shit up, lied, or even were wrong. The lollocaust camp being a good example of the former, Blithe being thought dead, even though he wasn't, one of the latter.
shut up homosexual go leave
oh, you're using "true" in the "not true at all" sense? like how "men" can be "women"? ignorance is strength, and we've always been at war with... who was it again? ah, it doesn't matter anyway, does it?
babbling nonce
the pacific was kino, leckie best character
For me, it's Bastogne
Jewstogne was the worst part of band of israelites except for the israelite episode
>TP was fricking bad,
Frick off
>grandson of a US Marine who fought in Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima
It was certainly a massive step down from BoB. The cast was mediocre and had some meandering pointless plotlines
>samegayging this quickly
You know we can see your ip, right?
Have you noticed how none of them smoke in the show?
What's he doing on the right here?
Must be some sissy anti-smoker propaganda to make people healthy
Someone post the TP vs BoB copypasta
>waiting for this
Those budget cuts
frick is this?
>During WWII, five miles above the ground and behind enemy lines, ten men inside a bomber known as a "Flying Fortress" battle unrelenting flocks of German fighters.
>unrelenting flocks of German fighters
loool atleast get your own k*ke propaganda right here's one of the only accurate scenes in Fury
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This show tries to create an underdog story where none actually ever existed.
Don't know much about the war do you? Show is set in 1943 so far and Fury is set in the last months of the war 1945. German LW actually could put up decent fighter resistance earlier in the war. In 1945 there was barely shit left.
>This show tries to create an underdog story where none actually ever existed.
Hilarious how amerifats still try to pretend they were the underdog in WWII
>total air supremacy
>total dominion of the sea
>industrial mass production
>better and more reliable equipment instead of over-engineered wunderwaffe crap
>number advantage
What is this talk about being an underdog?
Early on American bombers did have horrible losses over Germany and Yugoslavia and Romania
The whole war wasn’t 1945
Haha, you nazi fricks can't even summon up your big boy brain long enough to make coherent criticisms. The whole point of the show is pointing out that the Americans were morons who made a rod for their own backs by insisting on daylight precision bombing when the RAF had demonstrated night time saturation bombing was superior for years already, just because they were too arrogant to believe the silly Limeys and had to be big macho homosexuals. It's in no way meant to depict the yanks positively, at least to anyone who isn't a drooling moron - which is why you'd be right into the ovens if you ever got your way.
The British didn’t do it because it was “superior” they did it because they didn’t have the men or the planes to lose like america did
Shortly after the war the Air Force determined that mass bombing was totally ineffective anyway and didn’t do anything to end the war. All it did was kill a lot of people but had little strategic purpose
Wait, which is it? Did America completely dominate and win the war? Or did America do nothing and the Soviets handled all of the heavy lifting? You can't claim America dominated while also being useless.
The reality is the soviets did the heavy manpower for most of the war
The us got involved right at the peak of axis power and slowly crescendoed from supplying material to mass mobilization to small naval fights agaisnt the japs to knocking the Germans out of the Mediterranean and Africa to invading Italy and by the time DDAY took place the USA was the dominate player across the board after nearly 3 years of total social mobilization
The soviets had a larger army in terms of men but they just Zerg rushed Berlin and the us literally sat back and let them lose nearly a million dudes to in 1945 out of pure Russian rage
>small naval fights against the japs
>largest naval battles in world history
Only the Philippine sea and only in 1945
Midway was basically just bombing carrier
Just saw episode 1... not looking good so far...this TV show is going to be shit isnt it?
>made in 2024
Yeah but you already knew that
homie you've seen two episodes with 7 left to go. One episode was okay the other was mweh. It's mostly CGI which is obviously disappointing (even though it's understandable). BoB is kino, TP is mediocre becaus it's disjointed. MotA? I've no idea what this is yet. Does the first episode come close to episode 1 of bob? absolutely not. That's probably the best opening of any show period.
>Why is this so bad compared to BOB and TP?
You, and the world we live now
the combat scenes were pretty good but like other have said the downtime isn't as kino as BoB/TP/GK so far
my ulcer burst and it was nothing like that in the show. If they cant get something as simple as that right how are they going to show anything historic accuratly?
I thought the Pacific was the better series, but I read Helmet for my Pillow, Islands of the Damned, and With the Old Breed before seeing any of it. My biggest complaint is that the show tries to include emotionally impactful scenes without giving the same context the books did. Or they just change events to give characters something to react to or push the story they want. It makes the story beats feel really cheap and disingenuous. The narrative structure was way better than BoB, though.
The Pacific was kino and accurate and band of boomers was nothing but fictional slop.
Band of brothers isn’t fictional besides the Holocaust episode
People just don't buy the propaganda anymore. Even BOB is a guilty pleasure
Aye, just skip the bullshit holohoax episode and the show remains great.
When they had a shot of Germans on the ground I realized I would rather watch another infantry show than a bunch of Majors and Lieutenants flying planes and getting drunk.
They should just stop being israeli and make a show about a german wehrmacht squad fighting their way to stalingrad and back
>and back
Anon....
Shut up schweinhund
There is a German show called generation war that is basically this.
Still has heavy handed new nonsense and it’s pretty bleak since it’s the German perspective but it’s good
too bad it was so short. it was really quite kino. I liked how the israelite got rekt by the Nazi resistance. surprising to see them not drawing black and white lines
the scenes with the optimistic qt nurse getting thrust into a Ostfront field hospital were brutal
Yeah it didn't hold back in any way.
you can tell the budget wasn't extravagant but the combat scenes were very good. the part where they assault an urban outpost was great
When are we getting a Korean War show for depressioncore mayhem?
There was an extremely popular show called MASH about the Korean War but the israelites in Hollywood never do shows about korea because they either want to reinforce the mythology of ww2 and evil white men taking over the world and killing israelites and gays or they want to do Vietnam and talk about civil rights and america bad
Same reason we will never get so many good history kinos because it makes white Christian civilization or western civilization look to good
Hollywood israelites can’t have that
>iz da joos!!11!
meds
>Hollywood isn’t completely dominated by israeli producers and israeli actors and directors that have clear agendas
It’s not meds that’s how Hollywood is
it quite literally is, the holocaust is the reason Israel exists
Korean war stuff is something hollywood would never touch now because the US was directly fighting communist china during it
>being gay is awesome and great !!!
>also hahahah Hitler was a homosexual
You people are insufferable
>Why is this so bad
It's BARFING and BARS and BICYCLES with some kind of war in the background. Very boring.
Enough of this Amerikaner nonsense. This thread needs a real CO.
Saying the Pacific is bad is fricking moronic.
Shit is a fricking classic. You just need to get over that it's a lot darker than BoB. The fighting against the japanese was just far more brutal than against germany.
Bastogne just can't be topped
Carentan and Bastogne eps are top kino a cut above the rest of the series
ah yes the homosexual medic episode where the trees explode and they keep cutting to the enemy approaching but not closing any distance at all... my favorite.
Souless post
That's literally one of the worst episodes, it's also the point where the quality of the series kinda falls off.
Yikes
Theres this story about a bomber pilot wanting to fly a p-51 because they seemed so much more exciting and heroic than flying a bomber. He gets approved to fly the fighter but ends up crashing it and dying while trying to shoot down a german.
Source: Your grandpas ass
I read something similar in a book of flying memoirs. Bomber crew pals around with a fighter pilot on base during a stop-over, where the fighter pilot says he wouldn't want to be stuck in a bomber because it seems more dangerous to him. Takes off before the bombers and veers off the runway. By the time the bomber takes off they're still trying to extinguish the burning wreck of the fighter.
This sounds like someone who dozed off during Memphis Belle and half-remembered the part where the co-pilot goes back to the tail gun and shoots down a fighter like he wanted but it takes out another B-17 as it crashes
had to watch the first episode of this kino to cleanse my mind of the dogshit of these first two episodes
>The Pacific
It's been well over a decade so my memory is fuzzy, but I remember thinking it was too much. The show couldn't handle three storylines (it was three, right?) concurrently.
I haven't checked out Masters of Air, is there going to be multiple lead characters too?
FIRE YOUR WEAPON BLYTHE
I'm a simple guy from north germany, I watch this by skipping everything but the fight scenes and getting entertained by funny "german" pronunciations, shots which show the regions my grandparents grew up in and enjoy Amis getting shot at.
First episode delivered so far
Lets see the israelites make a documentary about the fire terror bombings of Dresden.
Or any of the massive amount of civilian targets the "good guys" destroyed.
>Start genocidal war of conquest
>Play the victim when the turns table
Why are Nazis like this?
I’m still waiting for someone to post the copypasta about BoB being all golly jee willickers we’ve got to save Europe and apple pie from those evil natsees
This board is oddly pro germany ww2. Film gays are contrarian to everything.
It's because if Hitler had won then maybe I'd have a girlfriend.
Does it cover Europe and the Pacific? Cause Manila, the capital of the Philippines, which was the deadliest battle of the Pacific, was the second most bombed city on earth during the war, with only Warsaw being first.
When we getting Soviet band of brothers? Cause pic very much related, Soviets fought in 4 out of the 5 deadliest battles of the war.
>total deaths per day for the deadliest battles of World War II
russians dont care about lives, they just threw men women and children at the enemy to die.
80% of all German divisions fought on the eastern front.
and the Russians had 7 men under arms for every German
“the guts of the German army have been largely torn out by Russian valour and generalship” - Winston Churchill
>Soviets fought in 4 out of the 5 deadliest battles of the war.
due to sheer incompetence leading to unnecessary losses
How does it compare to other WWII aviator kino like pic related.
forgot pic
Might just be my autism but the german fighers looked way too agile, like they were fricking TIE fighters.
Austin Butler sucks and his permanent Elvis voice is a problem