Why is Turtles flopping while Spiderverse was a hit? Critics and audiences agree its just as good.
Why is Turtles flopping while Spiderverse was a hit? Critics and audiences agree its just as good.
Why is Turtles flopping while Spiderverse was a hit? Critics and audiences agree its just as good.
like I said in another thread, kids are going back to school this week. it was moronic to put it out in August. basically the summer ends a lot sooner than it used to. I remember not being back in class until the last week of August
stop fricking saying this bullshit
largest demo for these movies are manchildren
you're an idiot. and your fact is bullshit. its a movie for kids, kids aren't watching it.
tmnt is for manchildren.
kids don't give a shit about tmnt.
Manchildren will love a remake of 80s cartoon, this shit is Rise over again, style over substance.
moron
That’s very out of touch. You need to get off the internet for a while
Kids can go tot he movies on an Friday night. They prob don’t want to watch this gay turtle bullshit
Wrong, schools still start late August / early September
>kids are going back to school this week.
Who the hell goes to school the first week of August?
When I was in high school I'd go back second week of August usually. Grew up in Tennessee
>like I said in another thread, kids are going back to school this week.
Where the frick did you go to school? I've never seen a school that went back this early. Some years, labor day weekend was my second week of school. I remember because the first week was only a half week, and then we got a three day weekend for labor day right after, so it was like easing us back into a full week - though that obviously wasn't the intention.
>August barely started
>Kids are going back to school
Where tf are you from anon?
nta but growing up in Texas school generally started first week in August
holy shit no wonder you guys wear cowboy hats and drive to buc-ee's at 1pm everyday before getting in car crashes
>kids go back to school start of august
where the frick are you from
Good job on stealth exposing the kids who know exactly when they have to go back to school lol
School starts in september you dumb homosexual.
lmao what shithole makes kids go to school in August and not in September?
your'e comparing spiderman to teenage homosexual turtles, the only reason people even watch it is because of the ginger bimbo and they made her a fat black woman in this one
>your'e comparing spiderman
Niggles More-gibs-please is not Spider-Man.
Literally doesn't matter. You could slap "Spiderman" on any movie and it would trounce any Turtle movie. I consider myself a Turtles fan and I haven't watched anything Turtle related in years because it all looks like shit.
Now remove the woke bonus
They're both woke so they would still have the same score.
black Spiderman started woke and even woketards go to (trends) movies. turtles went WOKE and no one wants to see that shit
What woke bonus? I though get woke, go broke?
TMNT was a thing at one point thirty-something years ago. Every attempt since has been a modest success with kids but never to the same degree. It's mostly loved by old frickers.
Like this anon said tmnt is mostly loved by old frickers that still have that nostalgia because early tmnt was actual soul. I don't know why they don't go all in on nostalgia and just make a turtles movie set in the late 80s early 90s with a hot ginger April, very little cgi and put all the budget towards the fight scenes with amazing choreography. Add in the vanilla ice song and you're gonna print money.
Is there really that much nostalgiagays for this IP? most tmnt fans like the version of the series they grew up watching while all the others seem to be drastically different reboots. But then again, every version of transformers is also different and people cantbstop watching those
The only turtles I know is the cartoon show from the early 90s
idk man. g1, beastwars, and cybertron are the only good ones imo
It gets a new animated adaptation every five years or so, and it varies wildly in popularity/quality. But by all accounts, the newest one is very popular and well loved by children while the manchildren preferred the older one with the e-girl April and the really varied designs for the turtles. I think the current iteration is the one with the Black person April.
Kids loved the Nickelodeon 2012 series. Toy Sales for that series made Nick a lot of money for awhile.
I'm nostalgic but only for the Konami video games.
The Transformers movies were popular because they were primarily targeted towards teen boys but making it about cool cars, Megan Fox, and big explosions. The new movie flopped because they tried to appeal to the nostalgiagays again and they mostly didn't care.
Becuase every new design gets worse and worse. More and more simplified exclusively to try and cheap out on plastic molds for action figures.
The animation style is so ugly I couldn't even finish the first trailer.
That's his girlfriend/boyfriend by the way.
>these sewer mutants aren't attractive
you don't say
This is the problem with it. It's frick ugly. To normies, Spiderverse looked cool and stylish, this looks like garbage. And honestly I think Seth Rogen's name is a disadvantage, to the extent people know he's involved at all. Just conjures up associations with Sausage Party and his various anti-White, anti-West shite. Spiderverse came in without any baggage, with the Lego Movie guys being the biggest names attached.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Wojacks
Splinter looks like a israeli caricature and he's gay with that bug.
>he's gay with that bug
Does that make him a bug chaser?
looks like old school Nintendo 64 aesthetic.
why do chuds hate this again?
They made them nigs? thats what i got from the trailer and it looks ugly with that 20fps motion
How is that beetleborg movie doing?
Spiderman is for zoomers
TNMT is for manchildren
What's his name again?
dorito pope's b***h
Furious Fernando
Irate Ignacio
Peeved Pablo
Seething Sanchez
Raging Rodriguez
Agitated Andy
Hateful Hernandez
Unagreeable Umberto
Disturbed Domiguez
Mad Manuel
Negative Nacho
Outraged Oscar
Ticked Off Tuco
Triggered Taco
He's still around? Why? Who watches his shit?
so the newest guy is topping joe right?
verified ratings
>250 verified ratings
Spiderman is a 100x bigger brand, easy. I hope tmnt flops. It looks godawful and israelited. I was afraid it would do well.
No one gives a frick about your studio owned review site little r*ddit Black person. Go cry about your gay cartoon elsewhere.
i dont care im pirating spider man next week
Review scores are absolutely meaningless these days.
I never understood how the frick cinemascore works, feels like no movie ever gets a score below B, in which case what’s the point?
Now add Barbie to that meme.
It's hilarious you fail literally thousands of times. You've killed the comic book industry, late night comedy is dead, Hollywood is dying, dozens of video game studios and television networks. San Francisco is a literal shithole with maps of all the shit out on the streets where it's legal to give someone AIDS without telling them and the punishment is less severe for molesting children if the sex act was homosexual. Literally everything your ilk has touched has failed, then you'll get one kinda sorta win and pretend this wipes away all the losses you refuse to even acknowledge lol.
Yes
Oh, damn. It didn't know Three Thousand Years of Longing did so poorly. It was pretty good.
>In B4 BBC memes
Foundation got a S2 some how
SHANG CHI DIDN'T BOMB IT WAS A MASSIVE SUCCESS
>Black Panther
>Made over two billion combined
>Several oscar nominations and wins
Yeah, I don't think those movies belong there.
Google "celebrities who bought tickets/theaters for black panther". You remove all the screenings paid for by black charities and black celebrities they made like a fourth as much money. They're basically Ant-Man level.
>It d-doesn't count!!!
Yeah, you're gonna have to keep coping.
You were given a specific, factual reason it's manufactured and you're calling that cope lol. Just debunk it. What, you can't, can you? Because you know it's true. You know rich nogs bought out theaters because no one was really interested in the movie.
Dispute it again so I can start dumping articles.
Maybe some people did buy at theaters, but you don't get to 1.3 billion by that alone. There was massive hype around the movie and it came out at the height of Marvel's popularity. It would have made at least a billion either way. Even fricking Captain Marvel did that, and it had no affermative action helping it.
>Maybe some people did buy at theaters,
"some people" dude there are multiple charities that each raised 300k to a million, and there are dozens of black celebrities who each literally spent millions. It simply isn't organic. They ran "favorite super hero" polls a year after it came out and Black Panther still wasn't in the top 100. None of the merchandise sold. It epitomizes the progressive tendency to make products not because of demand, but because it's what they WANT people to want.
Yea, I'm going to hve to dispute some of that. If a charity made a few million for a black kids to get tickets for the movie, not even a million of that goes to the studio or box office count, because the theater has to make money ahead of giving residuals. Even if a million charities had succeeded, i would not have affected box office that much.
BP's success was a constellation of things. Marvel's peak popularity, easily the most expensive marketing campaign behind the 2-part finale, height of the Trump-era culture wars where doing anything "non-white" was promoted like an absolute virtue by the left, insane cast who lent credibility to it.
Captain Marvel was the same, but mostly BS. Estimates was that 2-300 million of its earnings was back-channel buyouts by Disney partners.
muh Affirmative action oscars
>coping
keep projecting, cgi wakanda was itself a bLack cope, like affirmative action degrees which are now canceled.
Foundation was cancelled when season 2 is still airing?
>The green knight
I liked it , even though i didn't like how they added so many pajeets but the main guy was good
Visually the TMNT movie looks like absolute shit in the trailers.
Neither one is good
This.
They made Splinter gay because Seth Rogan.
They should have unironically made one of the turtles gay instead, at least they’re young and kinda sexy while splinter is old so it’s gross
>this post
also he isn't actually gay, the character is female in the film, but for some reason identified as a male in the promotional material
The animation looks like it's at a really low framerate. I dont get it, it just looks like shit visually.
Critic scores are the most meaningless shit ever these days
N
RT audience scores mean nothing.
The movie had ugly character designs that drove people away.
Seth Rogen is box office cancer.
I hate "journalists" so much.
>born in 1990
>love spiderman and TMNT
>biggest cartoon movies of the past couple years are critically acclaimed spiderman and TMNT
>zero interest in even streaming Black person replacement spiderman and Seth the israelite rogen’s homosexual turtles and nigress April
Marvel movies, LOTR, Star Wars, the witcher, wheel of time, DUNE, watchmen. All turned into pozzed garbage by news and feminists. Once I run out of books to read I am completely fricked.
Kids don't give a shit about TMNT.
It’s Wednesday my dude
It only cost 70 million to make, it’ll do fine
70mil +30mil marketing =100mil, theaters take half so this movie has to make 200mil to break even.
Three days of previews made 3mil. Opening day added another 7. It's fricking dead lolololol.
>14 bucks to drive and sit with normies and their crying children
I'll enjoy the movie alone in my comfy couch and 4k kinobox
I don’t think TMNT occupies that much of popular culture anymore, certainly not on the level of Spider-Man. Also Spiderverse 1 was really popular and beloved so a lot of people came out for the sequel.
Ninja Turtles peak relevance was the 2012 show. The show that followed in 2018 was NOWHERE near as popular. Those awful Michael Bay movies don't help either.
Forgot pic. It was actually a good show. If you like the 1987 or 2003 show, you might like it.
This.
It was the only TMNT cartoon where Shredder successfully killed Splinter.
Twice.
my kids love this - and i was pretty shocked at how much it nods to the original cartoon. Even did another dimension episode where they bump into the "old" turtles.
actually good. and SEXY April.
Awful. Kys moron troon
This, teacher here, kids talked about turtles and bring their toys, it had a similar effect to 80s cartoon. 2003 didn't had this effect and Rise was forgotten from release.
>The show that followed in 2018 was NOWHERE near as popular.
FRICKING THIS.
>gets cancelled after two seasons
>toys sold considerably less than 2012
>made April black
>story + dialogue is literally plebbit all the way - every character acts and sounds completely insufferable & overly giddy with forced """humor""" in every single episode, nothing like the corny jokes from the other series prior
I'm willing to bet Rise influenced Mutant Mayhem to some degree since half the Turtles are voiced by blacks, April is still black, no sign of Shredder anywhere, features a jittery animation style, and the dialogue feels like it was written by a bunch of aged soi-guzzling millennials. It'll probably break even, but it'll still underperform since its box office opening was extremely tepid.
Out of the Shadows was really good but to this day, practically no one has seen it
>Out of the Shadows was really good
Not really. It felt more like a generic video game than a well-written adaptation. It performed so poorly that the planned sequel was cancelled.
>Out of the Shadows was really good
Agreed. Other than the terrible casting of Casey Jones it was a pretty solid TMNT movie, and the end credits were fantastic.
I feel like they just didn't try with the casting. Just grabbed Amell for the recognition. Tyler Perry as Baxter Stockman was amazing though.
Where I live, it's the 10th. Literally next week.
First spider verse didn't do that well either. It grew via Netflix. This might not even get that since it will go to paramount plus.
Spiderverse won an Oscar and got extremely good word of mouth. This movie will be forgotten quick despite the acclaim critics are hauling at it.
They're both fricking garbage, but Spider-Verse 2 literally has "Spider-Man" in the title; the name alone has a larger fanbase than TMNT.
They tried to copy the art style of Spiderverse, but also make it intentionally look frick ugly
>but also make it intentionally look frick ugly
Ye olde israeli subversion strikes again!
>They tried to copy the art style of Spiderverse
no they literally copied it you just only now realized it's a shit artstyle because you want to dunk on tmnt for "copying" your fav movie
>but also make it intentionally look frick ugly
that's exactly how spidververse is
No to mention whatever the abomination on the right is supposed to be
>They tried to copy the art style of Spiderverse, but also make it intentionally look frick ugly
....so it's just like Spider-Verse.
Spider-Verse is intentionally frickugly even before accounting Miles as the protagonist.
Peni a cute
She was the only saving grace of the first movie before the sequel made her a depressed nihilist attached to a murder cult.
>made her a depressed nihilist attached to a murder cult.
Wow! I didn't bother watching the sequel since she wasn't a part of it, but hearing this is more annoying. Good thing I skipped it then.
Oh, you got no idea how fricking stupid it gets, you don't hear more about it because people into this shit don't like Spider-Man at all. Same scriptwriter as Wonder Woman 84.
both should've bombed, fricking moronic normalgays
Barbie's box office is proof that "go broke, go woke" is an incel fantasy.
barbie always was woke, what are you talking about? literally every other film bombed this year worse than bud lights sales
>barbie always was woke
israeli revisionism at its finest.
>the core message of barbie the last 50 years was...
your move
Barbie was made to sell young girls dolls. That's it. It never tried to demonize men like this movie did.
Spiderverse didn't have to compete with Barbie.
Anime
Spider Verse had a better trailer with much better visuals.
TMNT looks maybe funny, but too sketchy and not interesting visuals
TMNT has Seth Rogan attached to it. That's an automatic red flag.
Don't pretend Lord and Millar are any better.
>TMNT has Seth Rogan attached to it. That's an automatic red flag.
Agreed.
Yeah. Same for me. I drop any movie or show the moment I see that greasy gay's name attached to it.
Ugly are style. Black person April. Youtube character. Nobody wants it
>Youtube character
Forgot MrBeastiality makes a homosexual cameo in this shitfest.
(A) Nobody cares what critics think.
(B) Seth Rogen's involvement was enough to kill anyone's interest in the film.
Releasing it in a Tuesday in August wasn’t a good idea.
And the character designs just look so ugly.
Fat dwarf nerd April was a step too far
They could easily have gotten away with Black person April if they made her hot
It’s funny, the movie would probably have done quite a bit better had the made April hot and not black, making Splinter gay certainly didn’t help either
>Black Michelangelo
Very israeli casting choice
ENTER
turtle kino
Sometimes I wonder how much more popular this show would be with some higher animation quality, better writing for certain characters or plots (Karai and Fast Forward), and if it didn’t fall of hard at the end with a censored and gimped couple of seasons of FF/BttS. It’s damn good and probably one of the best kids shows ever but there’s just enough holding it back from being a perfect show. Still the best turtles adaptation by far and is peak 2000s kino. Theme songs are all spectacular too.
Baxter Stockman's arc in the show is legit incredible. Insane in the Membrane is a literal creepypasta lost episode that actually happened.
Yeah Stockman was great and that episode fleshed him out. Shame Hun and Garbage Man didn’t get theirs. Still feel like Stockman’s resolution in FF was rushed because nothing really ever happened to make him an evil guy, he was just always an amoral, glory chasing butthole. So I don’t completely buy it when he’s suddenly just evil because Bishop abandoned him, and now is a good guy. This is the kinda stuff I mean when I say this show is just slightly held back from being perfect, just because it’s a kids show. Absolutely amazing content for kids though, they can handle what most people now consider dark stuff and it’s really not so bad if kids get a littler scarred. The first nano episode, that fricked up Angel episode, and even that FF episode with the mutating poison scared the shit out of me as a kid.
It was OK but is maybe the most forgotten turtles incarnation along TMNT cgi movie. Fast Forward is fricking terrible.
>most forgotten turtles incarnation
A shame, since it was straight up adapting the OG comics for the first few seasons.
>most forgotten turtles incarnation
2003 was insanely popular for the first few seasons at least.
TURTLES COUNT IT OFF
I started this a month ago, and while I like it so far, I still watched Venture Bros first
Unironically because of the white female audience, they self insert as Gwen lusting for dat BBC. No one likes the fat black count in TMNT
>flopping
Is it?
I just checked, it has 10 million domestic already. In barely two days.
And no info on international so far.
It also cost only 80 million. I think it eitdo fine.
I'm excited to see the new Turtles movie, anyone else?
Everyone ITT saying the artstyle is ugly but i like the grimy look.
Black person April eas already in that recent show, and she is some sort of a mulatto in the comics anyway.
The only problem is that Seth Rogen is associated with it. He can really frick things up.
The only
Stfu homosexual shill.
>sort of a mulatto in the comics anyway.
Oh. Nevermind you're one of those morons.
I’m a chud, so I’m not watching anything Seth Rogan after mocking Christmas in Santa inc.
>see trailer for this movie before Oppy
>turtles talking like Black folk
>every character is voiced by a rapper of some sort
>someone mentions instagram or something
>april is a sarcastic Black person
>all fricking choppy with the animation
i was literally horrified
also as a ginger i really don't appreciate hollyisraelite completely erasing my phenotype from all media and replacing them with swarthy types and Black folk.
The first spider-verse had a slow start, TMNT should be similar.
The art looks great but all the promo stuff does look a bit dark.
it looks too ugly and doesn’t have an attractive hispanic man
this also. You can have black / hispanic characters, but if they are shown like attractive people, it will sell tickets anyway. This TMNT feels ugly on purpose
It's been out for two weekdays and you're already talking about flopping? For frick's sake.
You can usually tell how a film will do from it's opening. Good thing this was cheap so it won't actually flop
How do you know it's flopping?
Because Spiderman has Hailee Steinfeld in it, and the other has some POC has April.
Into the Spiderverse was genuinely good, and the sequel is riding that popularity.
On the other hand, nobody who actually likes TMNT wants an ugly, black April.
Because they are the same movie released in the same year
People who would be interested in seeing this already saw spider verse and don’t want to pay to see the same film again
The animation looks like a flip book. Does that not bother people? I cant even watch the commercials without feeling shitty. 90 minutes of that would be rough.
It can't perform worse than Ouf of the Shadows.
Should have kept April looking more like Barbie than like Splinter.
can't have curvy, good looking chicks in current year.
And once they're blackwashed they can't go back. DAS RAYCIS N SHIT
more visibly woke
Left is crypto gay shit, whereas right is blatant gay shit
April is an ugly freak in this, why would I watch it?
Only drooling morons and autismos liked the Turtles growing up. All my homies wanted to be Spider-Man.
Get woke go broke (unless you can psyop women and brown people into seeing your movie repeatedly)
I watched the crowd coming out of a spiderverse showing and it was literally 90% hispanics and Black folk