When it was at its peak in the Attitude Era, it was low brow to mainline America despite its mass success. Now it’s more sports based & has record profits but still isn’t a respected television medium.
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We don't see enough Kurt Angle matches anymore
He was a fun character and top tier performer.
>it’s more sports based
Yeah and that sport is manlet gymnastics mixed with long periods filled with worse than pureflix acting
Has wrestling ever had good acting?
Every time Triple H sees Cactus Jack.
YOU SON OF A b***h!
>Steve Austin
>The Rock
>Undertaker
These characters were fantastic and were wrestlings superstars so without them wrestling isn't the same. What would a modern Rock be? Just a wienery athlete? A modern Steve Austin wouldn't work, though maybe it would if he was left leaning. Modern Undertaker would be cool though.
AEW has all these archetypes but modernized. It’s pretty awesome.
Stfu aewtist
who are the Austin Rock and Taker are of AEW
Who's the AEW equivalent? I've seen a few, all I know is MJF, Adam Cole, Hook, and the older wrestlers from WWE that went over.
C'mon now.
it was so thinly veiled b8 and none of these morons noticed
That's right! It's not All Elite Wrestling, it's Attitude Era Wrestling! And boy is it the best thing going! Look at all the top tier stars they've created, like Chris Jericho, Adam Cole, Dean Ambrose and Sting!
You forgot about Wheeler Yuta, Dante Martin, Nick Wayne and Action Andretti, chud.
Which one is the pineapple guy?
Dante martin
I tried to get into wrestling again by watching this but it turns out it's like a manlet league or something. Every guy they have is a 5'7 twink, who wants to watch wrestlers you yourself could beat up lmao
Or just fat with nothing else going for them like Kevin Owens
I feel like you could do a modern Austin however it would be extremely difficult to give him a proper Vince to battle
Even the boomer characters like randy savage, flair, jake the snake, etc. we’re great. Wrestling seemed to have had a major downfall sometime in early 00s which is why they kept having to milk attitude era stars into the 2010s
Steve Austin would work more now than ever. The core of his character was just a dude who hated his butthole boss and allowed people to live vicariously through him. His absolute affront to institutions and authority would be too popular now actually, and considered problematic by institutions and authorities.
>A modern Steve Austin wouldn't work, though maybe it would if he was left leaning
I hope a creative anon starts doing woke Austin promos the way they used to do work RDR2, "I reckon its her turn" and all that
The troon has entered the ring
UFC
MMA aka UFC made pro wrestling pointless. Same wild trash talk to hype marches except MMA is real and not fake.
Fair
both are arranged though.
they know who is going to win before it starts
MMA like boxing has lot of corruption as far as judges. But that goes for any sport. Portland Blazers getting 30 fouls when they were leading LA in the 4th so big
money team advances
>MMA like boxing
yeag both aways have had a HUGE problem with "throwing fights" and arranged fights for bets
as long there are bets on a fight there will be a shit like that
Grew up on boxing. Most frustrating sport. Eventually had enough when every fighter had some ridiculous belt and every fight had bullshit scorecards
“Here’s the WNF90 Intergalactic Heavyweight Champion of the world”
LA KNIGHT is single handedly saving pro wrestling. YEAH!
every wreslter is a vanilla midget now and every match is nothing but high spots
The Attitude era had a lot of high spots though and people liked Benoit
That best thing to ever come from this is wwe ytp's.
They're still funny to me damnit. Soos
A majority of it’s fanbase is white conservative, blue collar males.
>Some guy fresh off a tour of the best bingo halls Sweden has to offer comes out to a massive reaction from the 2 guys in the audience who know him
>Talks about how the OTHER COMPANY never gave him a chance and now he's here to change the world
>Does a highly choreographed gymnastics routine, finishing with a triple backflip chop
>Commentators go wild
>Crowd of 50+ starts chanting "THIS IS WRESTLING"
>Tony Khan comes out and thanks everyone for making AEW the 2nd most popular wrestling company in the US
>Wrestlers wait patiently for him to stop talking, then go back to doing 5 backflips before throwing a punch
>All 18 members of the factions the wrestlers are in come out and face off as Taz says they're out of time
>Gets beaten in ratings by whatever bullshit Fox News trotted out that night, and a WNBA game
Kek
can’t forget about the jyoushi, video game outfits and Japanese promo cameos
Yeah, whenever they bring in some guy from Japan, and they act like he's a big deal, it never lands. Because if we're that into wrestling, we're already watching the product, but casuals have no clue who Takamura Dodongo is.
There are few things sadder than a grown man into wrestling. Also, it is a massive turn off for women.
dilate
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Outsider here, I've never watched wrestling and I'm not from the US, but I've seen clips of it and other second-hand information. To me it seems like peak autism, sort of like the popularity of channel awesome back in the day (the skits and such). I do not understand the mass appeal at all.
It’s cause you were and are an effeminate male with no cousins or friends to practice wrestling moves with
It's like capeshit but with better stories. Nobody cares it's not real.
Not real?
Just like the NFL, professional wrestling can only be saved by being turned into a bloodsport with death waivers and life sentence prisoners earning their freedom.
I support more female wrestlers and them graphically dominating men
Making it PG was great for business but put a cap on potential. It’s just theater kids that do CrossFit now as the tough guys are too much of a liability outside the ring. camera work now has so many cuts it disorients the viewer and hurts immersion with the matches, makes live better for the product imo. Last I went to a live WWE show however there was a flagrant amount of commercial breaks, even between entrances. They’ve based themselves around clips for YouTube $$ and streaming PPVs exclusively on Peawiener (which you can’t access virtually anywhere outside the US).
Despite kayfabe being dead they are too afraid of taking the next step forward in shrouding their lives with prerecorded and schemed drama like modern reality TV and influencer personalities do because the talent and creative has been conditioned to bland storytelling with the hopes that the shitty facial expressions and flippity doo dah matches will convince the viewer its legitimate. The boomer executives have failed at merging with zoomer lifestyles (see Miz’s shitty reality show, Corbin’s selfie camera rants when he had hair) leaving the main audience to be ppl 20-40 who caught the tail end of the golden era who maybe got into it because of their dad. But birth rates are plummeting and the majority of hardcore wrestling fans are freaks and geeks who will not have offspring. The “record breaking profits” are due to Saudi $$ and thirdworld shitters now having phones, not because the product has improved. The reception of the WWE UFC merger is proof enough: people think UFC is the big dog and that WWE is just an elder care facility for washed up fighters like Rhonda Rousey. I sincerely doubt they’d bring shoot matches like Dan Severn vs Ken Shamrock.
It isn’t respected “television” because it remains antiquated in developing personalities, child-friendly as a male soap opera and gelded as fighting entertainment.
Pro wrestling is dead. Adults watch MMA. Why “Attitude Era” will never work. Their only audience now is to little kids who are too young to find MMA exciting. Basically need to go back ‘80s cartoon WWF era
No more fishing stories about wrestlers doing copious amounts of substances, pulling pranks on each other and beating the living shit out of people at bars for calling it fake. Also they now give main card events to shitty women wrestlers instead of keeping them as bimbo bawds
The top three matches in the 2020’s has been Logan Paul vs Roman Reigns, Bad Bunny vs Damien Priest, and Cody Rhodes vs Seth Rollins. Because those had real possibility of career ending injuries. And yet when someone like Big E breaks their neck, they don’t have his buddies turn heel for revenge. But Bray Wyatt’s haunted house bullshit gets green light after green light. They are burying themselves. They will do LÀ Knight like they did Rusef, except Knight has actual talent