>i... I can't let the others know my son is moronic. They can never find out, Shane >looks like this guy was yet another child rapist >Dammit Dutch! This sicko is on the street and all you care about is making a name for yourself >Acevada...you raped a girl >I can't let the others find out I'm gay >sex scene between two men >my god. he raped her.
>I'm tired of feeling like I was raped too
Between her, Mara and Vic's wife this show was A-frickin-plus at its portrayal of women. At least Claudette was ride-or-die.
of the other two wives (Carmella and Skylar) Vic's wife is definetly the best of all of them. Even when she did the whole >oh you do the crimes? let's divorce!
She wasn't a complete b***h like Carm and Skylar. She didn't cheat on Vic and didn't do her best to turn the kids against him.
not as heavily marketed/publicized (I recall the actors themselves lamenting this, since they knew their work was good) and it doesn't have a lot of normie-meme-friendly moments
Basically because libtards (i.e. critics) didn't like it so much - compare to The Wire, which critics raved about, Obama loved, got discussed at homosexual dinner parties etc
Shielod was right-wing coded, pro-torture during the Bush years when libtards were freaking out about that stuff
Le edgy antihero wasn't actually super well-established, and I think they found Mackey discomfiting >But Tony Soprano is a murderer
Yes but he also goes to therapy, lives otherwise upper-middle class life, obsesses about getting his kids into college - this was all very relatable to libtards (notice how they all love the episode where he takes Meadow to colleges)
Plus HBO is high-class wine-sniffing TV, everybody knows that - in actual fact it's just the same slop as the other channels but we're talking about the prejudices people brought to the show
One of the cops is gay. There is a whole arc where the cops have to start going to black neighborhoods more to properly answer calls. The Latino police captain is literally democrat. When a cop kills a Muslim she's painted as being in the wrong.
I don't think the show is that right wing coded. At times it really does seem like a mix of the sopranos and the wire
gay homie cop is cured of his sinful ways and it's never brought up again
aceveda was as crooked as they come, funded by mexican cartels and also a wiener sucka
she was cleared of all wrong doing and was terrorized by the mooslim wife
it is bought back up lol. his ex boyfriend comes back to haunt him and the other cops harrass him over it on the daily. Matter of fact they got fired for it.
>I don't think the show is that right wing coded.
That's because you're not a libtard.
Round here, it's normie; round there, it's dangerously fascistic. It's Hollywood Based, sort of like the Big Bang Theory
So what? If you put it like that, sure but it doesn't present and execute these things in any way that correlates with the modern woke brain rot. Wokeism is enabling people who hold insane world views and have no life experience to tell them otherwise and that's why it's so widespread and an entire generation is completely fricked because of it. Right or left bullshit aside, The Shield was made by adult people with actual life experience. That's the difference.
I would say it's a down the middle show judging by 00s politics. Back then, people were more in favor of that. Now it's less so because the left is more anti-cop. But back then, everybody left or right was supposed to enjoy Vic roughing up the crooks to a degree.
You're being reasonable, I'm just talking about the "ick" that certain types would have felt about the show, and that expressed itself in a lack of enthusiasm over the years
(They could never actually say it was bad, because it's so obviously good, but given the choice they always rave about the Wire instead)
Episode 1 - which is what TV critics would base their opinions on - endorses Vic torturing a guy for info, a classic neocon era "But what if the only way you could stop a terrorist bomb going off was to torture them" plotline that would have rung alarm bells and made them uncomfortable
Speaking from experience, it was difficult to get people into The Shield because they assumed it was just another cop show. You need to stay with it for a while to see that it's different.
Anthony Anderson murdered this role. Hell, between him, Glenn Close, Forest Whittaker... The Wire has been my GOAT for a long time but I may need to reconsider.
they did that on purpose to make it feel more gritty. all the cameras are handheld. my friend used to get motion sickness from it when it was originally airing and we'd meet to watch it
I always felt like the camerawork was kino as hell and that it is done deliberately in that manner to invoke a body-cam like anxiety and add to the show's grounded and tastefully edgy style and tone of the show which I loved.
For me, after a while it became just another procedural cop show, with the only twist being the cops are corrupt. So your typical episode became something like >Vic and his crew have to take down some thug or gangbanger >Have no real evidence on him >They beat confessions out of people >Plant evidence >Other good cops are suspicious of Vic's crew >Someone warns Vic that they are on to him
And that's like every fricking episode. It was all a bit formulaic for me. When it was good, it was great. And it did have in my view the best ending of any TV show ever. But it was bogged down by a lot of "so what" bad guy of the week style scripting
In the later seasons it's more serial than procedural, but the serial is formulaic too.
>Vic comes up with a clever solution that gets the strike team out of hot water >But there's a loose thread >Inevitably, one of the good (or slightly better) cops picks at this loose thread >Vic comes up with a madcap solution involving heists and bombs and shit you'd never get away with in real life >This diverts attention for a while, but ultimately digs a deeper hole for the gang >Someone picks at the loose thread again >Rinse and repeat
Walter Goggins became by far the most successful actor from this show, which I wouldn't have ever expected at that time. Not mad though, he genuinely turned out to be a great actor.
I think it's seen more in the vein of Law and Order procedural shows than in the prestige drama category so people overlook it. It was on FX as opposed to HBO where it was under the radar. Breaking bad was under the radar too until it got binged on Netflix and people got heavily into it in its last season. The Shield ended too early to get that type of boost from binge watching. Nowadays people are not as into the police and anti-heroes so they're not willing to see a character like Vic Mackey do his shit.
Yeah and nobody fricking knew that. He's saying people ASSUMED it was just another police procedural show. When it came out that's what I thought. Just another fricking cop show on FX. There's a shit ton of police shows on TV and it didn't seem like The Shield did anything to make itself stand out from every other cop/emergency/detective show.
Was it better than the rest? Of course. Did it stand out? Once you watch it, yes. Did people know that at the time when a billion shows are trying to get your attention? No. It's not hard to understand. You can't just watch The Shield relevantly recently and think that it would have been glaringly obvious that it was a different sort of show. It came out on cable 20 fricking years ago when everything was EXTREME. A lot of people just skipped over it not realizing it was something different.
I just recently watched it. When it came out I assumed it was just another police procedural show. I thought it was going to something like Third Watch, Law & Order, or CSI. I kept that assumption for a long time, and always ignored websites or lists that recommended it. That is until I finally read the description of the show and gave the first episode a watch.
Vic Mackey kills cops! He... he deals drugs! He beats suspects! You know what he did yesterday? He... he screwed my ex-wife with the sole purpose of making this investigation seem like a personal vendetta. He may have assassinated a gang leader. And that's just all in one day. I wonder what he's going to do today. I wonder what he's going to do tomorrow.
This guy... this guy is just pissing... he's pissing all over us. He's pissing on you. What does it taste like? Chief, what does it taste like, 'cause you know what, it tastes like piss to me!
So what I'm getting from reading the thread is that the only thing that makes the show stand out is: >Cops bad
That's not a unique quality. That's something you can find in every fricking show. I think it'd be more surprising if it had a positive outlook on cops. Pass
It is brought up again. He strangles the cat because he wants to see what it looks like to see the life leave someone/something's eyes-- the one thing he couldn't connect to the cuddlefricker or whatever about during the interrogation. He's seen adopting a kitten and naming it Claudette an episode or two later.
>every character is bad in some way or irredeemable, so le wow so relatable crowd is out >gay cop is not celebrated for being gay, so alphabet gays are out >autism isn't being portrayed as a heckin awesome superpower but a mental problem, so quirkygays and literally me autists are out >the show is mostly procedural at the beginning, so binge watchers are out >it's pretty fricking edgy, so twitter snowflakes are out
Good show.
It requires to have above-average T and not be a fricking moron. A bar most do not clear. For my money, it has to be the best TV show ever made. It has everything you could want and projects some of the rawest emotion I've ever seen on any fictional media. It is truly a masterclass in writing and acting.
Because it's too redundant to be anything more than a 7/10. The season with the comedic actor that played a drug dealer and the season with forest Whitaker investigating were very good but the rest of the show was nothing more than average.
And you what, frick you. Frick you and your fricking stupid lies. You go outside and look to actively try and hurt innocent people. I think you are a dirty piece of shit. You deserve a fricking beating and to get a rough hardcore sodomising. Go frick yourself you dirty hebrew israeli israelite Black person wienersucking gaygit piece of human garbage. FRICK YOU, LYING PIECE SHIT
I’ve been watching this for the past month and it’s such a great show. Thank you Cinemaphile as I probably would have never checked it out if I hadn’t seen it recommended on here
Because it wasn't as good. I only enjoyed the parts with Dutch.
The strike team was so deep in shit 24/7 that they literally couldn't afford to get caught even a little bit or else the show would simply end. This removed all tension from their scenes.
>puts no effort in his work >when he cares and actually puts effort, easily solves a case >entrepreneur and business mindset >likes young girls >the only one who got by the balls the system
dare i say based?
Could this ever be topped?
it is by non redditors
>Previously on The Shield
>i... I can't let the others know my son is moronic. They can never find out, Shane
>looks like this guy was yet another child rapist
>Dammit Dutch! This sicko is on the street and all you care about is making a name for yourself
>Acevada...you raped a girl
>I can't let the others find out I'm gay
>sex scene between two men
>my god. he raped her.
>I'm tired of feeling like I was raped too
Between her, Mara and Vic's wife this show was A-frickin-plus at its portrayal of women. At least Claudette was ride-or-die.
of the other two wives (Carmella and Skylar) Vic's wife is definetly the best of all of them. Even when she did the whole
>oh you do the crimes? let's divorce!
She wasn't a complete b***h like Carm and Skylar. She didn't cheat on Vic and didn't do her best to turn the kids against him.
not as heavily marketed/publicized (I recall the actors themselves lamenting this, since they knew their work was good) and it doesn't have a lot of normie-meme-friendly moments
Basically because libtards (i.e. critics) didn't like it so much - compare to The Wire, which critics raved about, Obama loved, got discussed at homosexual dinner parties etc
Shielod was right-wing coded, pro-torture during the Bush years when libtards were freaking out about that stuff
Le edgy antihero wasn't actually super well-established, and I think they found Mackey discomfiting
>But Tony Soprano is a murderer
Yes but he also goes to therapy, lives otherwise upper-middle class life, obsesses about getting his kids into college - this was all very relatable to libtards (notice how they all love the episode where he takes Meadow to colleges)
Plus HBO is high-class wine-sniffing TV, everybody knows that - in actual fact it's just the same slop as the other channels but we're talking about the prejudices people brought to the show
One of the cops is gay. There is a whole arc where the cops have to start going to black neighborhoods more to properly answer calls. The Latino police captain is literally democrat. When a cop kills a Muslim she's painted as being in the wrong.
I don't think the show is that right wing coded. At times it really does seem like a mix of the sopranos and the wire
gay homie cop is cured of his sinful ways and it's never brought up again
aceveda was as crooked as they come, funded by mexican cartels and also a wiener sucka
she was cleared of all wrong doing and was terrorized by the mooslim wife
it is bought back up lol. his ex boyfriend comes back to haunt him and the other cops harrass him over it on the daily. Matter of fact they got fired for it.
that ends in like season 2
it's never brought up again after that
Except at the end when he stares at guys on the streets even after getting married
>I don't think the show is that right wing coded.
That's because you're not a libtard.
Round here, it's normie; round there, it's dangerously fascistic. It's Hollywood Based, sort of like the Big Bang Theory
So what? If you put it like that, sure but it doesn't present and execute these things in any way that correlates with the modern woke brain rot. Wokeism is enabling people who hold insane world views and have no life experience to tell them otherwise and that's why it's so widespread and an entire generation is completely fricked because of it. Right or left bullshit aside, The Shield was made by adult people with actual life experience. That's the difference.
I would say it's a down the middle show judging by 00s politics. Back then, people were more in favor of that. Now it's less so because the left is more anti-cop. But back then, everybody left or right was supposed to enjoy Vic roughing up the crooks to a degree.
You're being reasonable, I'm just talking about the "ick" that certain types would have felt about the show, and that expressed itself in a lack of enthusiasm over the years
(They could never actually say it was bad, because it's so obviously good, but given the choice they always rave about the Wire instead)
Episode 1 - which is what TV critics would base their opinions on - endorses Vic torturing a guy for info, a classic neocon era "But what if the only way you could stop a terrorist bomb going off was to torture them" plotline that would have rung alarm bells and made them uncomfortable
Speaking from experience, it was difficult to get people into The Shield because they assumed it was just another cop show. You need to stay with it for a while to see that it's different.
You see that it's different in the very first episode, moron.
And nobody watched it you mongolian. I imagine some mom passing by the catalog on Netflix and seeing it's a cop show and just skipping right past it.
Anthony Anderson murdered this role. Hell, between him, Glenn Close, Forest Whittaker... The Wire has been my GOAT for a long time but I may need to reconsider.
Anthony kinda took me out of it because of him and his comedic roles
no good literally me character for redditors to latch on to like walter white
Are you forgetting about Ronnie?
I can’t tell you one thing about Ronnie except for he’s quiet
any walton goggins character is literally me.
even this one
Especially that one, look how well I pass.
I hate saying this but I always kinda felt The Shield looked a bit too cheaply produced in comparison to Breaking Bad and Sopranos.
It was the early 2000's. The Wire has that same clustered dirty look
The Wire looks fantastic
It awkwardly straddles the line between Sopranos and NYPD Blue.
they did that on purpose to make it feel more gritty. all the cameras are handheld. my friend used to get motion sickness from it when it was originally airing and we'd meet to watch it
I always felt like the camerawork was kino as hell and that it is done deliberately in that manner to invoke a body-cam like anxiety and add to the show's grounded and tastefully edgy style and tone of the show which I loved.
The b plots are boring
Some scenes were hard to swallow..
learn how to breathe through your nose.
If you cut out like 60% of it (mainly in the first 4 seasons) it would've been
This. You can watch the first episode and the last episode alone and basically "get it".
Is it another BBC lovers show like The Wire?
go get your BBC fix elsewhere
It does have some mild BBC content, mostly implied.
Best parts of the show are when Mackey and the strike team are working the streets and shaking down low level criminals
>Strike team members on screen
Kino
>Random B story with detectives/beat cops
I snooze
>dutch and claudette cases
>snooze
>it's a dutch was looking up child porn to catch diddlers and lost the computer with cp episode
kino
For me, after a while it became just another procedural cop show, with the only twist being the cops are corrupt. So your typical episode became something like
>Vic and his crew have to take down some thug or gangbanger
>Have no real evidence on him
>They beat confessions out of people
>Plant evidence
>Other good cops are suspicious of Vic's crew
>Someone warns Vic that they are on to him
And that's like every fricking episode. It was all a bit formulaic for me. When it was good, it was great. And it did have in my view the best ending of any TV show ever. But it was bogged down by a lot of "so what" bad guy of the week style scripting
In the later seasons it's more serial than procedural, but the serial is formulaic too.
>Vic comes up with a clever solution that gets the strike team out of hot water
>But there's a loose thread
>Inevitably, one of the good (or slightly better) cops picks at this loose thread
>Vic comes up with a madcap solution involving heists and bombs and shit you'd never get away with in real life
>This diverts attention for a while, but ultimately digs a deeper hole for the gang
>Someone picks at the loose thread again
>Rinse and repeat
it's kind of dated but the ending is god-tier
SNEED STREET
Walter Goggins became by far the most successful actor from this show, which I wouldn't have ever expected at that time. Not mad though, he genuinely turned out to be a great actor.
Back full of shiv and an ass full of cum
I think it's seen more in the vein of Law and Order procedural shows than in the prestige drama category so people overlook it. It was on FX as opposed to HBO where it was under the radar. Breaking bad was under the radar too until it got binged on Netflix and people got heavily into it in its last season. The Shield ended too early to get that type of boost from binge watching. Nowadays people are not as into the police and anti-heroes so they're not willing to see a character like Vic Mackey do his shit.
yeah i loved the Law and Order episode where some criminals mouth rape the police chief at gunpoint
Yeah and nobody fricking knew that. He's saying people ASSUMED it was just another police procedural show. When it came out that's what I thought. Just another fricking cop show on FX. There's a shit ton of police shows on TV and it didn't seem like The Shield did anything to make itself stand out from every other cop/emergency/detective show.
Was it better than the rest? Of course. Did it stand out? Once you watch it, yes. Did people know that at the time when a billion shows are trying to get your attention? No. It's not hard to understand. You can't just watch The Shield relevantly recently and think that it would have been glaringly obvious that it was a different sort of show. It came out on cable 20 fricking years ago when everything was EXTREME. A lot of people just skipped over it not realizing it was something different.
you should've known what show it was when one of the characters shoots a fellow cop. Or when they have a blanket party for a troony.
How the frick would you know that if you never even fricking watched it. Are you literally fricking moronic?
Be easy on him. He's a Hispanic living the American dream. Show him some slack.
homie you ever see a preview?
Oh wow, another gritty cop show in the early 2000s. How fricking original. Like TV wasn't saturated with police shows during that time.
sounds like a personal thing at this point
Apparently not, since the OP is asking why the show is not as beloved as other shows.
What's the best way to rip the DVDs so I can watch it again? Is makemkv still the go to program?
It wasn't an HBO production.
I just recently watched it. When it came out I assumed it was just another police procedural show. I thought it was going to something like Third Watch, Law & Order, or CSI. I kept that assumption for a long time, and always ignored websites or lists that recommended it. That is until I finally read the description of the show and gave the first episode a watch.
there's more rape in this show than the entire Law and Order SVU
Vic Mackey kills cops! He... he deals drugs! He beats suspects! You know what he did yesterday? He... he screwed my ex-wife with the sole purpose of making this investigation seem like a personal vendetta. He may have assassinated a gang leader. And that's just all in one day. I wonder what he's going to do today. I wonder what he's going to do tomorrow.
This guy... this guy is just pissing... he's pissing all over us. He's pissing on you. What does it taste like? Chief, what does it taste like, 'cause you know what, it tastes like piss to me!
The moment gotham decided to go balls to the wall. this really should've just been Two-Face.
Because it’s shite
So what I'm getting from reading the thread is that the only thing that makes the show stand out is:
>Cops bad
That's not a unique quality. That's something you can find in every fricking show. I think it'd be more surprising if it had a positive outlook on cops. Pass
>Dutch strangles cat to death
>it's never brought up again
It is brought up again. He strangles the cat because he wants to see what it looks like to see the life leave someone/something's eyes-- the one thing he couldn't connect to the cuddlefricker or whatever about during the interrogation. He's seen adopting a kitten and naming it Claudette an episode or two later.
They wanted to set him up to be a serial killer revealed at the end but it was too outta hand for the rest of the writing staff
The shaky cam every 00s show had really ruins the rewatchability of this show.
it adds to the soul. That's the thing that makes it different than Breaking Bad andSopranos
I have tried getting past season 4 of Breaking bad and I just can't
It had a lot of good and a lot of repetitive aspects.
The ending is overrated. I remember they essentially didnt have an ending to the season before the last and just kept most all of it for the finale.
PISS
SWEET BUTTER
No meme actors carrying scenes
Also it isn't a full-on serial, most of it is still episode-of-the-week which doesn't play as well when "bingeing"
>every character is bad in some way or irredeemable, so le wow so relatable crowd is out
>gay cop is not celebrated for being gay, so alphabet gays are out
>autism isn't being portrayed as a heckin awesome superpower but a mental problem, so quirkygays and literally me autists are out
>the show is mostly procedural at the beginning, so binge watchers are out
>it's pretty fricking edgy, so twitter snowflakes are out
Good show.
BAWITDABA DA BANG DA BANG DIGGY DIGGY
It looks low budget and that's the barrier to entry for some people. Sopranos shouldn't be top 10.
I would like to see a supercut version of this where all the shit that doesn't tie into the main plots is cut
UR SONS A Black personhomosexual
cops are cringe
criminals is based
simple as
How bout cop criminals?
bringe
It requires to have above-average T and not be a fricking moron. A bar most do not clear. For my money, it has to be the best TV show ever made. It has everything you could want and projects some of the rawest emotion I've ever seen on any fictional media. It is truly a masterclass in writing and acting.
It's a fun show if you fast forward everything but the strike team and claudette+dutch scenes
it's a fun show because of those excess scenes. Vic's moronic son and marriage problems were more interesting than the money train
Because it's too redundant to be anything more than a 7/10. The season with the comedic actor that played a drug dealer and the season with forest Whitaker investigating were very good but the rest of the show was nothing more than average.
All the Shield clips on youtube got deleted, frick this gay earth
You're a lying a homosexual
Why you lie? What do you gain from this? This is just sick and sad.
And you what, frick you. Frick you and your fricking stupid lies. You go outside and look to actively try and hurt innocent people. I think you are a dirty piece of shit. You deserve a fricking beating and to get a rough hardcore sodomising. Go frick yourself you dirty hebrew israeli israelite Black person wienersucking gaygit piece of human garbage. FRICK YOU, LYING PIECE SHIT
>*Sprays lies all over the thread*
You're a fricking piece of shit homosexual
You sit in your fifthly pit of lies. I hope you rot.
Lies
Stop lying
Because the protagonists were all shitheads.
I’ve been watching this for the past month and it’s such a great show. Thank you Cinemaphile as I probably would have never checked it out if I hadn’t seen it recommended on here
Because it wasn't as good. I only enjoyed the parts with Dutch.
The strike team was so deep in shit 24/7 that they literally couldn't afford to get caught even a little bit or else the show would simply end. This removed all tension from their scenes.
He's a piece of shit
>getting this upset over someone trolling on Cinemaphile of all places
Frick you Black person
I'm here for the Spook Street webm.
Shut the frick up
Don't you ever open your mouth again homosexual
You sound like a moron
I'm about to move to a very black area of Georgia for work. I am required to stay there for at least a year. I am not looking forward to it.
your dead meat pal
>117 posts
>nobody mentions the best detective
>puts no effort in his work
>when he cares and actually puts effort, easily solves a case
>entrepreneur and business mindset
>likes young girls
>the only one who got by the balls the system
dare i say based?
>Manipulates two people into fricking just to mess with Dutch
I've watched this for 5 weeks and it's mostly boring. When the strike team is on its comfy but it's not a top show.
it wasn't quite as tightly written as the wire or breaking bad.
Let's see dat mouf
what the frick is with that episode in like season 3 that implies they only met each and went dirty like a week before the first season begins.