so what you're saying it it's not the demographic because the people who control the IP are trying to pick and choose the audience they want, not make money or do something that writers and artists can be proud of
okay so you agree that "main democraphic" isn't based on who actually likes the franchise, you're using "main demographic" in terms of whoever shitty CEOs choose to be the demographic
how's that working out for capeshit movies and comics again? i feel like i remember people saying normies still don't read comics
Sonic's "main demographic" is likely 10-16 year olds, not people who grew up with the genesis games. Be realistic.
These tiktok animations probably exist because Sega realized they can make some money off the even younger crowd the movies ended up attracting.
If you've been paying attention for the past twenty years (if you're even that old) you'd realize that Sega knows a lot of their older fans are basically guaranteed cash in pocket who will buy new products mainly for loyalty reasons, hence why the IP never ended up dying during the multiple times where shit hit the fan. The company will thrown these older fans a bone every once in a while with stuff like Mania, but they're definitely not Sega's main focus, and never will be. Gotta focus more on establishing new generations of loyal fans instead.
Kids don't touch TikTok because "Whaaa... Muh Uyghurs" and "Whaaa... Muh lack of human rights" and lets not forget "They caused Covid to happen"
Only CCP simps use TikTok.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Kids don't touch TikTok
I want to live in a fantasy world you're living in
also checked
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's you that lives in a fantasy world here, kids are extremally well aware about the genesis of Covid-19 and the Uyghurs.
okay so you agree that "main democraphic" isn't based on who actually likes the franchise, you're using "main demographic" in terms of whoever shitty CEOs choose to be the demographic
how's that working out for capeshit movies and comics again? i feel like i remember people saying normies still don't read comics
P.S.
how is nu star wars saving funko pops? please tell me.
Pre-school demographic seems like a very overserved group. Most pre-schoolers are as happy watching youtube sludge as they are high quality kids programming, so I just don't get why so many cartoons are made for them. Its not like they have money to spend.
no, anon is right. why the frick would babies that exist now give a shit about sonic 20 years from now? they'll just be pissed off because it won't be what they remember, except what they remember will be baby shit, not even a debate between lore and ethics vs run of the mill and uninspired shit
Go to Walmart and see how long you go before you hear some cartoon stock sound effects because parents nowadays just put their phone in front of their kids.
You want to know why Youtube altogether is shit? Farm-prodiced vids videos get millions of views DAYS after release, and now every IP wants to see if they can get in on that pie.
I watched an episode of that Sonic Prime show out of curiosity and felt too old to be watching it, very obviously a show made for younger fans. Now imagine my surprise to see people my age hyping it up online and claiming it's the best Sonic show.
Those 25+ manchildren will eat these shorts up without fail
The first season is sort of kiddy (although good job actually giving Sonic some character flaws for a change) but based on what I saw about the second season it gets into more complex character dynamics.
Prime has replicated the Sonic game rating system. Ok for a Sonic show and shit compared to any other animation. Second season is little better but overall S1-S3 would rank under OVA,Boom, and Adventure for me.
It's more watchable since everyone actually has a personality.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>This writing is aimed at 12 year olds instead of 10 year olds, therefore it is more fulfilling.
Anon. Come on.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Well it's not my favorite Sonic cartoon. It's in the middle as of now. I'd say it pulls equal with Sonic X. Sonic Boom and SatAM are what I really cherish.
I won't speak to the wisdom of this show specifically, but your kind of thinking is why comics is in the gutter right now. People age in and out of things, and audiences need to be constantly replenished with fresh viewers. Otherwise a franchise wouldn't survive past a generation.
You can rename the thread but I'll give you the same frickin image. They do this shit all the time you stupid homosexual. They do it because it makes money. Think before you post you stupid moron. Yes, it's bad, crying about it on the Internet does nothing
gotta nurture the next generation of autistic sonic fans. also parents control what their kids watch, and what better way to do that than with characters they recognize?
but the canon they will have is a fricking hedgehog that's barely potty trained
gotta nurture the next generation of autistic sonic fans. also parents control what their kids watch, and what better way to do that than with characters they recognize?
Sonic can go 10 years with nothing but "meh" gamed and it still catches new generation of autists
There is FNAF zoomers who are also into Sonic, FNF zoomers who are also into Sonic, there are kids who were born after Sonic Boom that are obsessed with Sonic
Sonic will live forever as long as autism exists
>the same franchise that gave Shadow the backstory of being the survivor of a cover-up massacre
Shadow's backstory is rarely brought up anymore, if not outright ignored in certain instances, likely on purpose.
Yeah, have you looked at a single superhero ever? Comics love to be needlessly edgy which contrasts horribly with children's cartoons based on the characters. For example, compare Spidey and his Amazing Friends to the Spider-Man comics.
>the bulk of your audience are past 25?
Not only has this never been the case (there's more teenage fans than 25+ fans), but it definitely isn't the case after the movies introduced Sonic to a bunch of younger demographics.
Time to stop being so emotionally attached to the mediocre cartoon animal series.
They’re making media for the audience they want, which is kids. Same deal as Hasbro rebooting the horse cartoon. They don’t actually want an audience of adult manchildren. They want to make stuff for kids.
The main designs really should adopt the "dark eyes with a colored highlight" look. It always looks nice.
I think Sonic's Smash Bros. model had it too.
Merchandising, they even look like toys already.
Also, Sonic’s not nearly as popular in Japan as he is in the west, so it’s probably meant more to appeal to them.
25+ year olds who grew up playing the Mega Drive games are not Sonic’s main demographic.
I like to believe I matter.
so what you're saying it it's not the demographic because the people who control the IP are trying to pick and choose the audience they want, not make money or do something that writers and artists can be proud of
Yes, anon, Sonic is a 30 year old corporate franchise designed for profit. That's typically how these things are handled.
okay so you agree that "main democraphic" isn't based on who actually likes the franchise, you're using "main demographic" in terms of whoever shitty CEOs choose to be the demographic
how's that working out for capeshit movies and comics again? i feel like i remember people saying normies still don't read comics
Sonic's "main demographic" is likely 10-16 year olds, not people who grew up with the genesis games. Be realistic.
These tiktok animations probably exist because Sega realized they can make some money off the even younger crowd the movies ended up attracting.
If you've been paying attention for the past twenty years (if you're even that old) you'd realize that Sega knows a lot of their older fans are basically guaranteed cash in pocket who will buy new products mainly for loyalty reasons, hence why the IP never ended up dying during the multiple times where shit hit the fan. The company will thrown these older fans a bone every once in a while with stuff like Mania, but they're definitely not Sega's main focus, and never will be. Gotta focus more on establishing new generations of loyal fans instead.
Kids don't touch TikTok because "Whaaa... Muh Uyghurs" and "Whaaa... Muh lack of human rights" and lets not forget "They caused Covid to happen"
Only CCP simps use TikTok.
>Kids don't touch TikTok
I want to live in a fantasy world you're living in
also checked
It's you that lives in a fantasy world here, kids are extremally well aware about the genesis of Covid-19 and the Uyghurs.
John K will like to have a word with you.
P.S.
how is nu star wars saving funko pops? please tell me.
gotta train the next generation
To be the next chris-chans
because those over 25s might have babies
This, and those parents love nothing more than shoving their childhood nostalgia down their kids' throats.
>sonicgays
>reproducing
Highly unlikely
I think knuckles is a dumb moron and I'm tired of seeing him.
>Tails only has one tail
His tails are bunched up together, you just can't see it.
Kitsune aren't born with all their tails
>Why make content for babies when the bulk of your audience are past 25?
because 80% of them is pic rel
Pre-school demographic seems like a very overserved group. Most pre-schoolers are as happy watching youtube sludge as they are high quality kids programming, so I just don't get why so many cartoons are made for them. Its not like they have money to spend.
It's not about the kids, it's about what the parents will buy them.
This is on TikTok, though, so it's in the right place at least.
Anon, i...
no, anon is right. why the frick would babies that exist now give a shit about sonic 20 years from now? they'll just be pissed off because it won't be what they remember, except what they remember will be baby shit, not even a debate between lore and ethics vs run of the mill and uninspired shit
I hope idw also makes a Sonic & Friends line.
Imagine if Ian Flynn is forced to actually write something for kids.
I want these two in the show.
>Amy frienzoned by the title already
LEAVE MY GIRL ALONE
Futureproofing
SEGA still doesn't even acknowledge Chris exists 20 years later.
Frick, I would've loved to see his autistic ass rage at Sonic Babies
Sonic Boom show did 2 jokes and a whole episode about totally-not-Chris
It's definitely not about him as there have been Sonic comic books around forever. Sonic had more universes than Batman in just 8 years.
Go to Walmart and see how long you go before you hear some cartoon stock sound effects because parents nowadays just put their phone in front of their kids.
You want to know why Youtube altogether is shit? Farm-prodiced vids videos get millions of views DAYS after release, and now every IP wants to see if they can get in on that pie.
I watched an episode of that Sonic Prime show out of curiosity and felt too old to be watching it, very obviously a show made for younger fans. Now imagine my surprise to see people my age hyping it up online and claiming it's the best Sonic show.
Those 25+ manchildren will eat these shorts up without fail
The first season is sort of kiddy (although good job actually giving Sonic some character flaws for a change) but based on what I saw about the second season it gets into more complex character dynamics.
Prime has replicated the Sonic game rating system. Ok for a Sonic show and shit compared to any other animation. Second season is little better but overall S1-S3 would rank under OVA,Boom, and Adventure for me.
>more complex character dynamics
SpongeBob Rollercoaster
I'm not saying it's deep, I just mean it isn't as bland as Sonic Colors.
There's barely a difference. It's the same shit. You're a goddamn adult. Come on.
It's more watchable since everyone actually has a personality.
>This writing is aimed at 12 year olds instead of 10 year olds, therefore it is more fulfilling.
Anon. Come on.
Well it's not my favorite Sonic cartoon. It's in the middle as of now. I'd say it pulls equal with Sonic X. Sonic Boom and SatAM are what I really cherish.
I won't speak to the wisdom of this show specifically, but your kind of thinking is why comics is in the gutter right now. People age in and out of things, and audiences need to be constantly replenished with fresh viewers. Otherwise a franchise wouldn't survive past a generation.
You can rename the thread but I'll give you the same frickin image. They do this shit all the time you stupid homosexual. They do it because it makes money. Think before you post you stupid moron. Yes, it's bad, crying about it on the Internet does nothing
I just made it somewhere more apt, you frickin' stalker.
kek tails' foot is hideous
but the canon they will have is a fricking hedgehog that's barely potty trained
This shit looks creepy as frick
Why is Sonic missing a tooth? Why are Tails' eyebrows so large? Why is he shoeless? And Sally looks like a lollipop
No wonder SEGA cut all their ties with Archie, they had some freaks working on that.
gotta nurture the next generation of autistic sonic fans. also parents control what their kids watch, and what better way to do that than with characters they recognize?
people will forget about this except the one autistic fan who felt betrayed that SEGA would dare befuddle the image of Sonic.
You're such a tourist.
>why is children’s media franchise catering to children?
Anon it’s time to move on and establish a career for yourself.
Not THAT young.
Sonic can go 10 years with nothing but "meh" gamed and it still catches new generation of autists
There is FNAF zoomers who are also into Sonic, FNF zoomers who are also into Sonic, there are kids who were born after Sonic Boom that are obsessed with Sonic
Sonic will live forever as long as autism exists
>Sawnik and Fwens
>the same franchise that gave Shadow the backstory of being the survivor of a cover-up massacre
>the same franchise that gave Shadow the backstory of being the survivor of a cover-up massacre
Shadow's backstory is rarely brought up anymore, if not outright ignored in certain instances, likely on purpose.
Maria literally has not been mentioned in a single game or cartoon since Shadow 05. Nearly 20 years ago
Well she appeared in some art a couple of months ago.
But then so did Elise so whatever.
They still do Sonic Channel art of her sometimes, but that's mainly for the Japanese side.
Yeah, have you looked at a single superhero ever? Comics love to be needlessly edgy which contrasts horribly with children's cartoons based on the characters. For example, compare Spidey and his Amazing Friends to the Spider-Man comics.
>the bulk of your audience are past 25?
Not only has this never been the case (there's more teenage fans than 25+ fans), but it definitely isn't the case after the movies introduced Sonic to a bunch of younger demographics.
Time to stop being so emotionally attached to the mediocre cartoon animal series.
They’re making media for the audience they want, which is kids. Same deal as Hasbro rebooting the horse cartoon. They don’t actually want an audience of adult manchildren. They want to make stuff for kids.
As soon as I heard the name I knew it would be some super babby thing. Glad to know I can call some things right once in a while.
>Amy's legs are skin tone
UH, BROS??
I don't know why people are surprised, kids LOVE Sonic, his presence in FNF mods and creepypastas have really made him take off in that demographic
The main designs really should adopt the "dark eyes with a colored highlight" look. It always looks nice.
I think Sonic's Smash Bros. model had it too.
I don't think you understand how prevalent those weird ai indian cartoons of sonic characters are on youtube kids.
>bulk audience are past 25.
Because babies generally have no taste and their shows actually are profitable.
The primary 25+ are the prime audience for watching content made for babies, anything too complex and it'll fire up their autism into a frenzy.
Have you seen how well the merch sells?
Merchandising, they even look like toys already.
Also, Sonic’s not nearly as popular in Japan as he is in the west, so it’s probably meant more to appeal to them.
"Toyetic"