Because everyone just ignores that Sam being his own man with his own superhero name and gimmick is way more interesting for his character than just being Captain America: You Are a Black Man Edition. And that's just for starters.
I don't get how people just slurp up "Hero: Minority Edition" all the time instead of calling for more actual original characters to get their time to shine, both the ones that already exist and newer ones that could be made. Kinda shits on a character when they're only worth something as a pre-existing symbol made by someone else they will literally always have to live up to even if they carve out their own niche, and this goes for nu-Falcon too.
>didn't spend 90% of filming smoking weed and being a dingus
but that's his tough guy essence, if he didn't do it, no one would take her seriously like the rock or will smith.
>I don't get how people just slurp up "Hero: Minority Edition" all the time instead of calling for more actual original characters
I'd like it if they explored other cultures too.
Like when they introduced Sigurd into Thor comics, and made him a black man.
Like, why? Why not introduce an interesting African pantheon and expand people's cultural knowledge? Why do the ultra lazy thing of making a Norse mythological hero black? African Folklore can be pretty cool.
This is an important point- Falcon is Marvel's first Afircan American superhero (Black Panther is older, but is African African.) But being a replacement for Steve Rogers is seen as an 'upgrade' even though he's like the fifth guy to have a storyline about that. He is now Black USAgent.
On the movie itself, it's much more that Sam Wilson has been a pretty bland MCU character overall, combined with a general decline in interest in the franchise post Endgame.
I'm not black so I guess my perspective on this is limited, but I always thought Falcon looked cooler and had cooler powers than Captain America. Specially when they give him the cool transparent laser wing shit. So I always thought this seemed like a downgrade specifically done for sentimental reasons. The shield doesn't work the best with his existing tool kit anyways, even when he throws it.
Why the frick did they make his blues so fricking bland, it's supposed to have more whites and lighter blues for a reason, this doesn't look good on Sam
The MCU has a tendency for giving the characters an honest to god great looking-comic accurate suit at the end only for them to can it on the next entry. Happened to Sam and Kamala and will pobablt happen to Spidey.
Because it's the same writer that was behind >y'all need to stop calling them terrorists and do better *flies away*
The funny thing is that since movies get test screenings while shows don't, this time his shit work was put under scrutiny and they've had to reshoot most of the film.
Imma be honest. It's the powers or lack there of. To me this homie is LAME. Who tf wants to be Falcon. All he can do is fly. Newsflash Black! Everyone on the Avengers can fly. He's not smart, strong, charismatic, deadly, powerful. The dude is as bland as white bread.
>Everyone on the Avengers can fly
Yeah, because Hawkeye can fly. And Hercules. And Black Widow. And Spider-Man. And Moon Knight. And Beast. And Mockingbird. And Tigra...
I personally was never that fond of Mackie. But that has to do with Mackie, not that he happens to be black. If Mackie had been Killmonger and Jordan was Sam and was the new Cap, I'd be totally fine with that. I still wouldn't waste time watching it in theaters but that was true of EVERYTHING MCU since Endgame which was just a major uninteresting slog. And because I don't count NWH as MCU slop.
>Why so much
But almost all of it is due to /misc/ tards:
Sam is black.
Because everyone just ignores that Sam being his own man with his own superhero name and gimmick is way more interesting for his character than just being Captain America: You Are a Black Man Edition. And that's just for starters.
I don't get how people just slurp up "Hero: Minority Edition" all the time instead of calling for more actual original characters to get their time to shine, both the ones that already exist and newer ones that could be made. Kinda shits on a character when they're only worth something as a pre-existing symbol made by someone else they will literally always have to live up to even if they carve out their own niche, and this goes for nu-Falcon too.
>Captain Falcon was hated when the comics did it too
No it was after. And it was only after Nick Spencer started writing him.
Rick Remender's 1 arc with him as Cap was good and so was the recent Symbol of Truth series.
I, personally, don't like Mackie because of the color of his skin.
good on you to admit your racism son. you could be the palest white and I don't like and that wouldn't be racism at all!
>Captain Falcon was hated when the comics did it too
No it was after. And it was only after Nick Spencer started writing him.
Rick Remender's 1 arc with him as Cap was good and so was the recent Symbol of Truth series.
I'll admit to being a marvel casual as far as deep diving into Falcon but I'm positive it's Mackie as an actor, as a hero, I'm not fond off. His BTS makes him sound like an annoyance. His promo interviews did as well. There's loads of IF and EG crap I never bothered with because there were so many actors I didn't have any interest in hearing about. But he and RDJ were both top of the list.
Because he's not Captain America. He's Falcon. And trying to make him Captain America just undermines them both. Falcon is a good hero and his name, the name he created for himself is the one that deserves to be well known and recognized alongside the other heroes.
Steve Rogers a Captain America was written by comic fans who made the character represent America, fight for America, defend & protect America, and positively reflect America.
Sam Wilson as Falcon America is written by pompous white leftists who make the character denounce (white) America, shame (white) America, condescendingly scold & lecture (white) America, and negatively vilify (white) America.
Gee whiz...I wonder why nobody likes this elitist, judgemental crap?
To be fair, Remender wrote a pretty interesting book for the first 6 issues. He just didn't survive the handoff and eventual transition to live action. He was received much better than Iron Heart or Whor, because he was actually next in line after Bucky did his turn.
Also it's stupid any time anyone without the super soldier serum tries to shield throw. They shouldn't be able to do near the shit Steve does it. >But they showed him tossing it against a dummy.
Look if you're picking ultimate Frisbee teams I'll give him first pick but no amount of practice is gonna let you toss that thing and dismantle a jet. Steve practiced to get finesse to ricochet shit not to get the basic strength needed to huck it around.
Falcon being Cap isn't wrong. Captain America more than most heroes is meant to be a symbol and ideal, so anyone who represents those ideals can take on the mantle. The problem is making him the poster boy for forced diversity rather than true equality.
Mackie is a cool guy but I just dont think he has the "it" factor to lead capeshit. If Sam were played by Chadwick Boseman I feel like people would be less sour. Also
>MCU is shitty >Movie is confirmed to have a bloated budget and reshot multiple times >Falcon and Winter Soldier was ass >Hispanic Falcon
Shouldve been bucky to get the shield tbh. Falcon is literally a nothing character with no development that had no stakes in the good phases of the mcu.
>Falcon and Winter Soldier was peak shlocky MCU-dark-ages midpack >Red Hulk is washed Harrison Ford (I like him but come on) >I don't give a shred of a shit about Anthony Mackie as Captain America and his supporting cast has been boring as frick up to this point >Everyone is ready to move on with IPs like Blade, the X-Men, and Fantastic Four >Low chance for any kind of cheap fanservice since it's a grounded, single universe story
Maybe I missed some stuff but that's what jumps out at me
Because everyone just ignores that Sam being his own man with his own superhero name and gimmick is way more interesting for his character than just being Captain America: You Are a Black Man Edition. And that's just for starters.
I don't get how people just slurp up "Hero: Minority Edition" all the time instead of calling for more actual original characters to get their time to shine, both the ones that already exist and newer ones that could be made. Kinda shits on a character when they're only worth something as a pre-existing symbol made by someone else they will literally always have to live up to even if they carve out their own niche, and this goes for nu-Falcon too.
Y'know, everyone loved Blade and I bet the franchise could've gone on if Wesley Snipes didn't spend 90% of filming smoking weed and being a dingus.
M8 just try watching Blade 3 again and try saying Snipes wasn't completely justified
>didn't spend 90% of filming smoking weed and being a dingus
but that's his tough guy essence, if he didn't do it, no one would take her seriously like the rock or will smith.
>I don't get how people just slurp up "Hero: Minority Edition" all the time instead of calling for more actual original characters
I'd like it if they explored other cultures too.
Like when they introduced Sigurd into Thor comics, and made him a black man.
Like, why? Why not introduce an interesting African pantheon and expand people's cultural knowledge? Why do the ultra lazy thing of making a Norse mythological hero black? African Folklore can be pretty cool.
I wish falcon had his falcon in the movies
Bird telepathy is an underrated power.
Also, classy af.
basically assassin's creed.
This is an important point- Falcon is Marvel's first Afircan American superhero (Black Panther is older, but is African African.) But being a replacement for Steve Rogers is seen as an 'upgrade' even though he's like the fifth guy to have a storyline about that. He is now Black USAgent.
On the movie itself, it's much more that Sam Wilson has been a pretty bland MCU character overall, combined with a general decline in interest in the franchise post Endgame.
TOO BE FAIR, Sam taking the mantle in movie context felt more genuine than in comics
I'm not black so I guess my perspective on this is limited, but I always thought Falcon looked cooler and had cooler powers than Captain America. Specially when they give him the cool transparent laser wing shit. So I always thought this seemed like a downgrade specifically done for sentimental reasons. The shield doesn't work the best with his existing tool kit anyways, even when he throws it.
They never call him Captain Falcon, so that like -80 points in my book.
Sam Wilson died during Falcon and the Winter Soldier, replaced by a woke marxist black supremacist cut out
Why the frick did they make his blues so fricking bland, it's supposed to have more whites and lighter blues for a reason, this doesn't look good on Sam
It's a stealth suit.
It'd be more like Cap's WS outfit than this then. the reds make it stand out too much to be a stealth suit
The MCU has a tendency for giving the characters an honest to god great looking-comic accurate suit at the end only for them to can it on the next entry. Happened to Sam and Kamala and will pobablt happen to Spidey.
Hell, even Fox did it with Apocalypse.
Because it's the same writer that was behind
>y'all need to stop calling them terrorists and do better *flies away*
The funny thing is that since movies get test screenings while shows don't, this time his shit work was put under scrutiny and they've had to reshoot most of the film.
Imma be honest. It's the powers or lack there of. To me this homie is LAME. Who tf wants to be Falcon. All he can do is fly. Newsflash Black! Everyone on the Avengers can fly. He's not smart, strong, charismatic, deadly, powerful. The dude is as bland as white bread.
>Everyone on the Avengers can fly
Yeah, because Hawkeye can fly. And Hercules. And Black Widow. And Spider-Man. And Moon Knight. And Beast. And Mockingbird. And Tigra...
he's lame and also black
I personally was never that fond of Mackie. But that has to do with Mackie, not that he happens to be black. If Mackie had been Killmonger and Jordan was Sam and was the new Cap, I'd be totally fine with that. I still wouldn't waste time watching it in theaters but that was true of EVERYTHING MCU since Endgame which was just a major uninteresting slog. And because I don't count NWH as MCU slop.
>Why so much
But almost all of it is due to /misc/ tards:
I, personally, don't like Mackie because of the color of his skin.
You sound like massive narcissistic homosexual
Go back
To sleep?
I plan too, son.
Don't be too concerned, it's your soul I am more worried about.
This isn't an actor issue. Captain Falcon was hated when the comics did it too. Pretty sure that was before Mackie was even cast.
>Captain Falcon was hated when the comics did it too
No it was after. And it was only after Nick Spencer started writing him.
Rick Remender's 1 arc with him as Cap was good and so was the recent Symbol of Truth series.
good on you to admit your racism son. you could be the palest white and I don't like and that wouldn't be racism at all!
I'll admit to being a marvel casual as far as deep diving into Falcon but I'm positive it's Mackie as an actor, as a hero, I'm not fond off. His BTS makes him sound like an annoyance. His promo interviews did as well. There's loads of IF and EG crap I never bothered with because there were so many actors I didn't have any interest in hearing about. But he and RDJ were both top of the list.
Sam is black.
I never cared much for him tbh. Just combine his movie with thunderbolts and give them a sendoff.
In all honesty, I just want the Marvel division to burn down, down to the ground.
Anon they have insurance so that would still make them money.
It has to be an Act of God.
>It has to be an Act of God.
But isn't it all an act of God?
Captain America is Steve Rogers who is a straight white man. I’m sick of this Captain Bojangles minstrel show bullshit
Because he's not Captain America. He's Falcon. And trying to make him Captain America just undermines them both. Falcon is a good hero and his name, the name he created for himself is the one that deserves to be well known and recognized alongside the other heroes.
just holding the shield does not make him Captain America
I know other posts have said this many times already, but it bears repeating
because from the title and synopsis it was clear from the beginning that it was going to be about stupid modern politics
It's not difficult to figure out.
Steve Rogers a Captain America was written by comic fans who made the character represent America, fight for America, defend & protect America, and positively reflect America.
Sam Wilson as Falcon America is written by pompous white leftists who make the character denounce (white) America, shame (white) America, condescendingly scold & lecture (white) America, and negatively vilify (white) America.
Gee whiz...I wonder why nobody likes this elitist, judgemental crap?
Based.
Reminder that modern woke writers retconned this lmao
>written by pompous white leftists
To be fair, Remender wrote a pretty interesting book for the first 6 issues. He just didn't survive the handoff and eventual transition to live action. He was received much better than Iron Heart or Whor, because he was actually next in line after Bucky did his turn.
Turns Sam into a tokenized Captain America rather than his own character.
Because it's gonna suck
Also it's stupid any time anyone without the super soldier serum tries to shield throw. They shouldn't be able to do near the shit Steve does it.
>But they showed him tossing it against a dummy.
Look if you're picking ultimate Frisbee teams I'll give him first pick but no amount of practice is gonna let you toss that thing and dismantle a jet. Steve practiced to get finesse to ricochet shit not to get the basic strength needed to huck it around.
Falcon being Cap isn't wrong. Captain America more than most heroes is meant to be a symbol and ideal, so anyone who represents those ideals can take on the mantle. The problem is making him the poster boy for forced diversity rather than true equality.
>forced diversity
whole opinion invalidated
You have brainrot.
Mackie is a cool guy but I just dont think he has the "it" factor to lead capeshit. If Sam were played by Chadwick Boseman I feel like people would be less sour. Also
>MCU is shitty
>Movie is confirmed to have a bloated budget and reshot multiple times
>Falcon and Winter Soldier was ass
>Hispanic Falcon
Why are you so deadset on making countless MCU threads, Lancedance? Why not go back to your goth girls.
Mostly MCU burnout and F&WS being a dud. Sam’s likable, he’s just being sidestepped by Hulk stuff now
Shouldve been bucky to get the shield tbh. Falcon is literally a nothing character with no development that had no stakes in the good phases of the mcu.
There’s actually art of Cao Bucky
>Falcon and Winter Soldier was peak shlocky MCU-dark-ages midpack
>Red Hulk is washed Harrison Ford (I like him but come on)
>I don't give a shred of a shit about Anthony Mackie as Captain America and his supporting cast has been boring as frick up to this point
>Everyone is ready to move on with IPs like Blade, the X-Men, and Fantastic Four
>Low chance for any kind of cheap fanservice since it's a grounded, single universe story
Maybe I missed some stuff but that's what jumps out at me
Leaked art shows Sam getting a full helmet with oxygen mask.
I just don't like that the tone of his skin isn't like mine. That's all, really. I won't watch this.
I just do not give a shit about Captain Falcon