Why such thing as a "western hentai industry" doesn't exist? Japan has entire studios dedicated to porn.
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Why such thing as a "western hentai industry" doesn't exist? Japan has entire studios dedicated to porn.
Cause we’re not degenerates?
Is that a joke?
Americans are not the ones drawing pedocartoons.
That's great
Let's look up the instances of pedophilia per capita for each country. And no, you can't claim "well there's obviously a shitload that goes unreported" when you're talking about a country you don't live in
God I hate defending e-girlshit. I can't fricking stand it
>You have to live in a country to recognize it's incompetent
Damn America just shot up in the global rankings
>implying
homies really be saying anything...
>not degenerates
Yeah because Japan is a fricking shithole hellscape
>The same part of the world where animation is seen as for kids only
Gee I wonder why
there was some underground porn comics that floated around, my LCS has a box of them and seem pretty neat
but mostly its because of this
this stuff wasn't gonna get mainstream appeal like regular porn
plus there weren't a lot of good western porn artists back in the day
This.
This is basically the only true answer to this question.
because the puritans that came to America that even Englanders considered looney ruined the whole trajectory of how sex should be viewed
The reason why Japan has a massive hentai industry is BECAUSE they're more puritan than us. It's just another one of many sexual outlets they take.
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I don't get it. Aren't the Japanese basically sexually repressed Puritans too? Yeah ANIME might have sexual stuff in it but actual Japanese society seems pretty reserved when it comes to sex. I actually heard a theory that the reason why porn is so prolific there is because of how repressed it is
One need only look at prostitution laws to learn the answer.
because the west a bunch of sexually repressed puritans, it's why so many weird fetish content ends up in cartoons.
Honestly, I prefer subtle suggestive sexiness over some Ugly Bastard grunting over some naked HS girl or housewife while her boyfriend/husband is forced to watch.
>west a bunch of sexually repressed puritans
Dude, the reason hentai is so fricking weird is that the Japanese are even more sexually repressed than Americans. Our fetish stuff is absolutely tame compared to what the Japanese are into.
>Dude, the reason hentai is so fricking weird is that the Japanese are even more sexually repressed than Americans.
God no, no one is more repressed than the Americans.
Hell, half of Japan's weird laws exist entirely BECAUSE Americans found them too relaxed regarding nudity and sex and forced changes to their local laws after they occupied Japan.
Someone has clearly not been paying attention to American in the last 20 years with just how sex positive it has become.
America is only sex positive when it comes to gay sex, anything else and they're still hilariously repressed.
This is absolutely false. You think it's only one side that has become hyper sexual when even straight Americans have more sexual partners on average than the Japanese?
>You think it's only one side that has become hyper sexual when even straight Americans have more sexual partners on average than the Japanese?
And yet when it comes to American media, straight sexuality is extremely muted.
American cartoons, sure. It's not our fault your mommy only takes you out to PG-13 movies.
No, live action stuff as well.
American media in general is far less sexualized when it comes to what straight people like than it was in the 90s.
Nowadays most of the sexualization is gay shit, which makes sense since America is extremely gay.
I feel like the internets are trying to trick me into having an argument with a moron that doesn't watch movies for grown ups. No fricking shit Thor 4 doesn't have heterosexual sex in it. It has gay hand-holding, HAND HOLDING. The only two people who even kiss are Chris and Natalie. Because it's objectively for a young audience.
God, I bet you cringed your little chud ass off at it. What a sad little screeching thing you've become.
What an autistic post.
But yes, American media is not very sexualized outside of gay sex.
>Literal constant sex scenes almost obligatory in anything not aimed at kids
Show me 20 in the last year.
>There are American video games with a huge emphasis on which character you'll frick, Mass Effect is famous for this
Mass Effect is Canadian you stupid fricking moron.
>>Mass Effect is Canadian you stupid fricking moron.
>Since 2007, the company has been owned by American publisher Electronic Arts.
Lmao. Lol even.
Mass Effect was published by Microsoft you moron, and again, Bioware is Canadian.
What a fricking cope.
>Published by an American company since the series began
>Owned by and American company since the series began
>"B-But Bioware was originally Canadian!!!"
Holy cope Batman. You literally just undermined your own argument even more with that.
If a thing is funded by Americans, developed for a primarily American audience, it is effectively American media. Deal with it.
Stop being moronic if you can, meds might help.
If this laughable bit of hyperbole is all you have, you can just stop now.
Are you out of your fricking mind? American media has women slobbering all over men and making out with them while furiously grinding their hips into their laps. Americans are degenerate fricks.
>American media has women slobbering all over men and making out with them while furiously grinding their hips into their laps
That exclusively refers to hip hop/rap music videos and literally nothing else.
Not American movies, not American TV shows, not American animation, not American video games, basically all you have are porn and hip hop music videos.
>movies
Literal constant sex scenes almost obligatory in anything not aimed at kids
>TV shows
See the above
>Video games
There are American video games with a huge emphasis on which character you'll frick, Mass Effect is famous for this
Literally what the frick are you talking about
This. Game of Thrones was objectively made for a fairly young audience, and it's all about sex and murder.
I feel we are talking to morons who's mommy doesn't let them watch anything for mature audiences.
Game of Thrones is British you mongoloid.
Game of Thrones is a show based off an American writer, funded by an American studio, for an American audience, you utter, utter dipshit.
>funded by an American studio
You mean an American network.
HBO only provided the funds, the actual studio that did all of the filming, location scouting, casting, etc. etc. was British.
Doesn't matter, was green-lit by Americans, funded by Americans, made for Americans.
It's American Media.
>Not American movies, not American TV shows, not American animation, not American video games, basically all you have are porn and hip hop music videos.
Even if this were true, there would still be more examples of us being sexually open than the Japanese.
>there would still be more examples of us being sexually open than the Japanese.
So...post some?
Bioware is and always has been Canadian.
This is like saying that Tomb Raider is Japanese because it was owned by Square Enix, a Japanese company.
>If a thing is funded by Americans
Funds mean nothing, providing the funds does not turn a Canadian production into an American one.
>So...post some?
You're the one who made the claim in the first place that we a re more repressed than the Japanese, the burden of proof should realistically be on you.
But I will propose to you this, could something like say the hedonism in the hip-hop/rap industry exist in Japan? Probably not.
>But I will propose to you this, could something like say the hedonism in the hip-hop/rap industry exist in Japan?
Of course, there are plenty of heavily-sexualized idol group music videos coming out of Japan.
Now post some examples of that hetero heavily sexualized modern American media, because all I can think of are rap and hip hop music videos.
Yes but you are a confirmed moron.
Even keeping it Cinemaphile, Riverdale and Lucifer are both nothing but sex appeal and hot bodies.
>Lucifer
>nothing but sex appeal
Sorry, but I am not a homosexual.
You can't prove that, and evidence supporting the idea is rather piling up.
"American Pie", a movie with "America" LITERALLY in the title, is all about sex. The entire focus of the movie is about sex. It's a sex movie about sex, in America, directed by an American, for Americans. The 40 Year Old Virgin. The Graduate. Sex and the City. When Harry Met Sally. The actual frick are you smoking homie.
>"American Pie", a movie with "America" LITERALLY in the title, is all about sex.
American Pie is literally older than you.
>The 40 Year Old Virgin. The Graduate. Sex and the City. When Harry Met Sally.
Is this a joke?
The youngest of those films is literally nearing 20 fricking years old.
Do you not know what the word "modern" means?
>American Pie is literally older than you.
I was born in 1993, nice try though man.
>Do you not know what the word "modern" means?
Do you? The modern era is universally regarded as having begun in 1945, with the period of art and film immediately following that even directly referred to as modernism. You seriously just sound like you're grasping at straws at this point.
>The modern era is universally regarded as having begun in 1945
Is this a joke?
Are morons on Cinemaphile seriously pretending that they don't know what the word modern means?
>The youngest of those films is literally nearing 20 fricking years old.
>Do you not know what the word "modern" means?
Dude how limited is your own definition of modern? I think of modern stuff as being 90s at the youngest and 60s at the oldest.
Is True Blood modern to you? Spartacus? Are you (likely) Underage B&?
Both of those are just cool movies I like, and I'm 25. Underage b& people are just wrapped up in internet shit and wouldn't know the first thing about either of those movies unless some e-celeb mentioned them. Both still feel modern to me in spite of the huge gap between their airings, because they're modern movies.
I'm talking the television shows, moron.
And as I already suggested, your problem is you don't seek material out, then pretend it doesn't exist, then get outraged about it.
>I'm talking the television shows, moron.
NGL I thought you meant the movies too, those are both a lot more famous than the shows. Just kind of feels like you were looking for a "gotcha" with that one.
>I think of modern stuff as being 90s at the youngest and 60s at the oldest.
Not him, but that's because in the 60s you were probably a 10 year old.
Modern means the last 10 years, no one who's not moronic or a boomer would call the first fricking Jurassic Park a modern movie.
America has recently been pushing gay shit but you're naïve as frick if you think it doesn't also push general sexual hedonism. The image of a woman shaking her ass while a man raps about fricking b***hes has been a mainstay for 30 years now.
All I'm gonna say is that a song like Baby Got Back could never have an equally popular Japanese equivalent
Baby Got Back is thirty years old you fricking tard. I don’t even disagree with you but frick that’s a terrible example
And there are still zoomers who plenty well know the song regardless of its age.
Hell if you want two modern examples, WAP and Lil Pump's I love it rose to popularity quite fast. I can guarantee you a song about how wet the singers pussy is would not be able to rise to popularity in Japan as it has in America.
Being a white male virgin is the worst thing you can be. Being a tall, white, muscular man who fricks is top tier though. Look at Euphoria. A bunch of mystery meat all competing to frick a tall white chad.
Lmao no there are music videos of women shaking their asses all over men's crotches and there have been since the fricking 90s. America only pretends to be repressed for some fricking stupid reason even as we have the most sexualized shit imaginable in full display everywhere.
What, you don't become the porn capital of the WORLD by being repressed. Americans are the most sex-addled populace there is. The difference is that it isn't as homogeneous across the states as you perceive Japan is when it comes to their anime/manga culture (which was once a subculture).
I want to kill myself
Because the west never embraced animation the same way as Japan.
The Japanese Hentai industry is a laughably bad shadow of itself.
Japan is mostly relegated to cartoons and costume-shows because they are far, far too autistic to pull of live-action anything.
Every actor is either a stoic grunter or some lulzsowacky spastic.
Obv this is an east vs west thread, but I actually would like a detailed history on how anime overtook Japan
Pre-school educational shows, kid shows, angsty teenager shows, romance shows, action, horror, sci-fi, comedy, hardcore pornography, softcore pornography, you can get anything in anime. There have even been workout shows, like Richard Simmons type “watch follow along and workout” shows but anime style. EVERYTHING comes in anime! It’s basically the Japanese equivalent to live-action.
I’d really be interested in the history of how that all happened
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Oh, that's simple, anime just evolved alongside Japan's manga industry.
A lot of anime and animated movies are based on manga, sometimes the animated versions are even directed by the creators of the manga (a good example being Miyazaki with Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind).
Animation is faster and cheaper then tokusatsu and doesn't have a "Lol cheap rubber suits and cardboard buildings" stigma in international distribution markets.
Cartoon is considered children's media. Also, the porn industry here is about making as much money as possible and animation is expensive.
Not the way Queen Bee does it.
The moment the West saw animation as kids media killed any chances for the medium to evolve beyond what we have. Even trivial stuff such as animated porn wouldn't find it's place here.
Good. Animation is not a serious medium.
>The moment the West saw animation as kids media killed any chances
Americans abandoned "grown up" animation because SFX got the the point where you didn't HAVE to tell the story through fantastical cartoons, you could just put the fantastical up in live action, then live-action with CGI.
America has evolved to CGI Animation (which Japan is broadly shit at despite a few stiff efforts).
Japan has mastered an obsolete art through repetition. I'm sure they can build great propeller airplanes too, not that anyone gives a frick.
>obsolete art
midwits really be saying anything...
>America has evolved to CGI Animation (which Japan is broadly shit at despite a few stiff efforts).
Nah, Japan's CGI animation is just focused on a different industry.
Namely, video games.
And most of America's film CGI is outsourced nowadays anyways, lest we forget the recent Marvel drama with them not paying Indian VFX artists.
There's a REASON people laugh at fumbled efforts in movie CGI and compare them to video games fren.
Japan has all this rich manga and anime, and can't move it to appealing live action because they suck at live-action combined with CGI.
Instead of a non-shit live action Patlabor or Macross, they'll just keep delivering Gun-damn anime #142, because that's as good as they can do. Even something as sterile as DUNC is completely beyond their ability.
See, this argument would work if, again, most of America's CGI wasn't outsourced to India and China.
And also if most of the CGI-heavy films weren't trash.
China only does CGI on the cheapest American throw-away crap, same for India, let's not pretend the Japanese haven't outsourced a ton of work to Korea I guess.
Japanese Animation as a whole is gone to shit, maybe 1-2 decent works in a good year, then everyone else doing a poor job trend-chasing it.
>China only does CGI on the cheapest American throw-away crap, same for India
Fricking lol, China and India literally do major CGI work on every big-name Marvel movie, frick are you talking about?
They do grunt-work rendering shit mainly. If you pay attention next time you'll notice that most of the names attached to the SFX/CGI are not poos or Chinks.
>If you pay attention next time you'll notice that most of the names attached to the SFX/CGI are not poos or Chinks.
That's because they don't get individual credits, only the companies get credited, companies like Method Studios, Base FX, and Red Sky Studios do tons of VFX work on American films, and they're based in India and China.
Because there are western indie artists that produce far higher quality porn than japan and take up the niche that the main animation industry could never .ake worthwhile money back on.
>Because there are western indie artists that produce far higher quality porn
webm unrelated I assume.
Internet artists already fill that spot.
You do know that porn is being made by artists every day, right? Companies don't want to bother but there's plenty of porn coming from other places. Japan does what Japan does. Next thing you'll ask why we don't refer to everyone with honorifics.
Artists like the late Satoshi Kon could match the finer efforts of Disney Studio's expensive work, but that era is over, now it's just lavish background paintings with sterile, cut-rate "animation" playing out in front of it, or hyper-spastic "flashing light" shittery like Gurren Lagann aping actual quality.
>Why such thing as a "western hentai industry" doesn't exist?
Western porn artists prefer to operate on commissions or patron-backed smaller work. Short comics & animations are quite common - comics more so.
Furries and rule 34 artists already exist.
Animated porn is such a weird topic in the West. We used to have Christian preachers and right-wingers that tried to strict pornography or sexuality, but now we have left-leaning teenagers that screech about sexuality or character ages in media but not for real life stuff such as Onlyfans or Twitch. This is why you see so many artists have patreons, subscriberstars or even pixiv fanbox and privating their shit so that minors don't screech at them, there is no other way to get monetary compensation except on these platforms.
I think the OP means in terms of large productions of adult media. You will never see a big studio that will say "we're making a porno cartoon", it'll draw so much controversies.
Even just regular boy's targeted animation has a limited audience.
The audience for "mature" animation at theaters is even smaller.
The audience for "porn" animation is microscopic, which is why even the Japanese budget for them is flip-book pathetic in the modern era.
>The audience for "porn" animation is microscopic, which is why even the Japanese budget for them is flip-book pathetic in the modern era.
Yeah, hentai productions are full of low budgets slides that are insulting to even watch. Realistically, you would either make a porn game and advertise it on patreon (milking it for as long as you can) or just draw comics/doujins of it. These are your few choices for "Western hentai industry".
When people say 'adult animation', they mean South Park and Family Guy. If they're into comics, maaaaaybe Spawn will be mentioned, maybe a half-remembered viewing of Heavy Metal as a kid. If they're *really* into cartoons, they'll bring up the MTV stuff like Aeon Flux and The Maxx. Other than that, there's nothing that's caught the public attention for long.
Call me a weeb all you want, but I've said for years that the one thing Japan's comics/animation industry indisputably beats the West in in terms of diversity of content. There's a few Netflix shows that aren't boner-dick-poop-joke cartoons, but they're still a minority.
>Call me a weeb all you want, but I've said for years that the one thing Japan's comics/animation industry indisputably beats the West in in terms of diversity of content.
I mean it's Japan's biggest cultural exports and their industry makes billions of dollars every year. With that amount of money you're bound to have a variety of different shows.
>Call me a weeb all you want, but I've said for years that the one thing Japan's comics/animation industry indisputably beats the West in in terms of diversity of content.
Again, because its the only method of portraying this content that anyone (even the Japanese) give a single frick about.
Do they have an anime about Tour Bicycle Racing? SURE. Do they have a tv show or movie about it? No, because they are a race of weedy shut-ins and autists and no one would pay attention to that shit.
They have rubber suits, Samurai period shit, and cartoons. Even the Koreans are rapidly outpacing them in genres.
>No, because they are a race of weedy shut-ins and autists and no one would pay attention to that shit.
Calm down with this weird racist rhetoric. Anyways, pretty sure they have live action adaption of most manga or anime properties.
>Do they have a tv show or movie about it?
Is there an American tv show or movie about Your Bicycle Racing that isn't just some cheap reality tv shit?
We've had television shows about a truck driver travelling the country with his fricking Chimpanzee. And cops with partners that are monkeys. And robots. And aliens. And everything fricking else.
>We've had television shows about a truck driver travelling the country with his fricking Chimpanzee.
And it was reality tv tier shit.
>And it was reality tv tier shit.
Same as 99.9% of Jap cartoons about playing ping pong or riding bicycles with "team spiritu".
It's just churned-out rote garbage.
>Same as 99.9% of Jap cartoons about playing ping pong or riding bicycles with "team spiritu".
Except, y'know, animation takes a lot more time and effort than giving a redneck a camera and a monkey and sticking him in a truck.
Okay, take out the sci-fi/fantasy stuff. They still have shitloads more content available than the West as a whole.
Also, fricking weird racist tangent there with the 'weedy shut-ins and autists'. Clearly there's a huge market there, passion projects only go so far, and usually only once.
>Call me a weeb all you want, but I've said for years that the one thing Japan's comics/animation industry indisputably beats the West in in terms of diversity of content.
You got a license to operate that cherry picker?
>muh cherry picking
Anime can be just as monotonous and creatively bankrupt as western toons, you just choose not to see it.
No, I absolutely see it. I also see you being a contrarian b***h.
How am I being contrarian by pointing out a flaw in your logic? That's not even what it means to be contrarian.
You're the one cherry-picking to find stuff that stands out FROM that shit, and you well know it.
Now please frick back to >>>Cinemaphile and watch Isekai #3,455
GIRLS PLAYING BASEBARRU! HAVE AMERICAN EVAR HAD SHOW/MOVIE ABOUT AMERICAN GIRL BASEBARU??
It's not that they're playing baseball, it's that it animates like shit.
This animation is awfully stiff.
Still more diverse than capeshit could ever be cause is more than just one qhit genre
Most of the shows taken here are seasonal romcom trash. Some of the things taken don't even make sense if you pause one of them because it doesn't look the same.
Cartoon porn's still seen as 'creepy' and 'weird'. Everyone finds some cartoon character hot, nothing unusual or surprising about that, but actual animated nudity or fricking? For some reason, that's still considered bizarre by normies. It's almost a weird taboo and, with all the other shit out there that people are into, it's nuts.
How come interracial porn is so tame? It’s akqays black man fricks white woman. That shits gay. Give me an international orgy with people from all over the world.
Because it makes the most amount of money and it's good outrage publicity.
It exists though it has mostly become a digital only cottage industry nowadays. That said, it is a shame that it never grew to be more. There were some real gems back in the day that would have been amazing animated.
Reading those comics made me realize just how much early anime based its artstyle off of Archie.
Was Fred Perry one of the earliest Western artists that did porn?
Bill Hays, that's why
The same reason we don't have a strong animation industry; live action is going to get 90% of the pie. They take our best animators and CGI artists for shit like marvel movies, and porn is infinitely easier to make with actors than drawing it out so there's no point in making hentai for big Hollywood studios. SFM and online porn artists are picking up the slack but let's face it they're not making million dollar blockbusters, they're at best going to make a comfortable living wage and that's it's if they're super lucky.
Oh yeah and video games have the added part of interactivity so yeah
>The same reason we don't have a strong animation industry
There are single American animated films that outgross the entire box office of Japan's yearly animation output.
They nearly shit themselves when their Demon cartoon made $500 million (their record), which would be a disappointing as frick showing from Minions or Disney.
>There are single American animated films that outgross the entire box office of Japan's yearly animation output.
Not anymore, America used to be able to get away with that when China was still eating all their shit up, but that's all in the past now.
I mean no shit when your company is Disney or Illumination. They have massive funding and marketing in comparison, the only one that's remotely similar in Japan is Toei, and they are much bigger than Toei.
>MODERN IS ONLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS
>MODERN IS FROM 1945 ON ONLY
>NO 1990
>NO ONLY STUFF LESS THAN 20 YEARS OLD
YOU'RE ALL FRICKING moronS
MODERN JUST MEANS SOMETHING NOT IN THE DISTANT PAST BY DICTIONARY DEFINITION
THAT DEFINITION DOESN'T MENTION ANY PARTICULAR SPAN OF TIME AT ALL
THE "EARLY MODERN ERA" STARTED IN THE FRICKING 1500S FOR FRICKS SAKE
GEN Z WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE MODERN ERA DIDN'T EVEN START UNTIL THEY WERE TEENS
IT'S ALL RELATIVE YOU STUPID FRICKS
HOLY SHIT THIS BOARD IS FRICKING STUPID AND YOU'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO ACT SUPERIOR BASED OFF OF DEFINITIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING UP ON THE SPOT, JESUS FRICKING CHRIST
>HOLY SHIT THIS BOARD IS FRICKING STUPID AND YOU'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO ACT SUPERIOR BASED OFF OF DEFINITIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING UP ON THE SPOT, JESUS FRICKING CHRIST
At last you've come to realize that nobody on this board actually cares about facts and just wants to be right.
Shut the frick up homosexual, you're not allowed to make actually rational posts here.
Lmaoing at those three americans not wanting to admit their country only has a gaze for homosexuals and trannies
Everything else is severly censored
>moronic tranime poster is moronic
Multiple examples were provided to you yet you don't wanna look at them. Sad!
Show me ones made in the last five years, and have actual sexy characters in it, i'll wait
So now "modern" is only the last 5 years? Have you even graduated High School yet?
And a Google search would reward you, you unaware Weeb.
I don't see any examples in this post bro.
Chop chop, get to it.
I'd link you to Youtube trailers of them, but I fear you are not old enough to view them, Weeb-san.
Translation: You can't think of any
I accept your concession.
>Translation: You can't think of any
>I accept your concession.
You came INTO this thread making breathless accusations of rampant homosexualry.
It's time for YOU to cite these explicit gay sexings you've been angrily beating your dick to.
And don't try Love and Thunder, nothing risque goes on their at all.
>It's time for YOU to cite these explicit gay sexings
Euphoria
Heartstopper
Uncoupled
Just based on what I've seen on Cinemaphile.
So basically you live in Trannie threads, and think that is a healthy lifestyle choice.
So are you going to name some hetero examples or do you consneed?
Bridgerton
Sex/Life
Outlander
Industry
Virgin River
You
Gossip Girl
That't twice what you named, unless you have more in your troony folder.
How many of those have explicit hetero sex scenes with nudity?
Because all of the ones I named have gay sex scenes.
>have gay sex scenes.
Explicit gay sex scenes? Or ass and breasts?
Because all of those shows have copious ass and breasts.
>Because all of those shows have copious ass and breasts
Bridgerton does not have copious ass and breasts.
Neither does You.
None of your "Gay" shows has any more explicit of "sex" than the shows I named, and far less explicit in several cases.
Pls show yourself out.
>None of your "Gay" shows has any more explicit of "sex" than the shows I named, and far less explicit in several cases.
Euphoria literally has multiple explicit sex scenes with a troony, frick are you talking about?
It has troony ass and "breasts". Whoopteeshit.
It's no Blue is the Warmest Color.
You tortured closet troony-lover. Go watch your troony sex clip again, you won't wear it out, gay.
>It has troony ass and "breasts".
And dick.
Which, apparently, is hetero by American standards.
OMG a glimpse of a man's genitalia?!?!? How shocking that is, here in the year 1987!!!!!
Yes, yes, American dudes love looking at dicks, don't remind me.
I haven't SEEN this guys dick, but apparently you've studied it enough for a dissertation and multiple threads about it.
It's worrisome.
And yet you seemed to try to imply that it was hetero by mentioning his ass and breasts.
Very American of you.
It's NUDITY Anon. You were implying it was full gay sexings. Is this guy even making out with another guy? Or just some chick, and it's gay because he's deluded into thinking he's a chick?
I don't watch or obsess over this show so fill me in. Dicks and veganas have been showing up in movies longer than you've been alive.
He gets fricked in the ass by an older male.
So yes, typical gay American media.
So typical you have come up with 3 shows, one with this instance of "hot dickings". Across who knows how many years of hot hetero sex, because you keep hilariously walking the term "modern" back to basically mean last year? Or are we to this year now?
I'm sorry that you can't name much modern American media that features hetero sexualization in the last few years, sounds like an issue with your country and how gay it is.
>I'm sorry that you can't name much
I named over twice what you did, without any real effort. But you are right to be sorry, because you are doing pretty sorry in this discussion.
So did this change American Media forever? Or just your personal sexuality? Because it sounds like the latter.
If the former, you could have just washed it out of your brain with the 6 gajillion hours of straight hetero movie/tv sexings.
It reminded me that yes, Americans are very gay.
>I named over twice what you did, without any real effort.
And only one of the shows you named featured actual hetero sexualization.
That tells me that you have watched a whole one of them. And yet I bet you have studied all three gay shows.
Fascinating.
That just tells me that you haven't watched any of them, or you, like a typical American, have a very loose definition of sexualization.
Americans get very insecure when Japan is mentioned.
This is funny, because you are being IMMENSELY insecure, in fact it's the very heart of all your posting. Just come out already.
>This is funny, because you are being IMMENSELY insecure
I'm sorry, are you not the one who's been spamming racial slurs for half of this thread?
And to return to the subject title, there aren't many American animated dicks and veganas. Most of us would rather see real ones I guess?
Japan is super into it because it's an island full of virgin shut-ins with 2D waifus as their sexual outlight, just like the OP.
Go ahead, I'm holding you to your own standards, stupid.
Thank you, now stfu and frick off back to where you came from.
Take your meds.
>beep boop engage catchphrase.exe
Every time.
After you. You got hoist by your own standards, med up, man up, and go be a stupid little shit in some other thread.
I repeat, please go take your meds.
Now you're just reduced to making butthurt homosexual noises at me, you need to stop posting.
I'm just worried for you anon, you seem like you need to take your meds.
Cardi B, Doja Cat and Billie Ellish all exist. They may not be the most attractive around but that doesn't invalidate the idea that hypersexualization doesn't just apply to gays in media.
Doesn't Billie Eilish literally wear the baggiest clothes possible because she wants to "fight the male gaze?"
She's lying. There are plenty of pics of her in things like tanktops for an example.
She's fine with flaunting her sexuality to the public when it suits her, the baggy cloths are just part of her brand.
>There are plenty of pics of her in things like tanktops for an example.
But I thought this argument was specifically about the media, ie. music videos?
>specifically about the media, ie. music videos
Not really, it's more about American heterosexual repression vs that of the Japanese.
Even if those pictures are not in music videos, it's still something that is more acceptable to do here than in Japan as a young female celebrity.
Even IN music videos there are things we can get away with that Japanese cannot like
's example of WAP, that came out only a year ago.
>Not really, it's more about American heterosexual repression vs that of the Japanese.
I thought it was specifically about the lack of hetero sexualization in American media.
>China is generally 1/10th or less of big studio animation grosses.
China over 1/10th of the worldwide box office for Frozen 2.
Damn, this one racist dude is having a fricking fit.
>western hentai industry" doesn't exist?
it literally existed, but this thread shows how many people weren't born while it was going on
Modern 2D hentai OVAs suck though. Regular anime has become softcore porn, while only a few studios make 2D hentai OVAs and they all look like shit. Its so sad.
>Regular anime has become softcore porn
oh i fricking wish lmao.
Cause big corpos stull sees most animation as kids stuff and adult animation has shit quality
why is there so much xenophobia and shitposting whenever japan is mentioned? you don't see this in any foreign cartoon thread.
1. It's the usual Weebs starting vs. shit
2. The weebs have almost a dozen boards specially devoted to weebshit
3. And they need to frick off to them rather than posting these shit-threads the lazy jannies won't clean up.
i don't know what's your issue, the OP and the earlier posts were nice and civil, but then stuff happen where everyone just became insane and started to become racist or loony like you
knock it off
This board is overrun with actual shills who don't want you to turn to anime and manga over their western garbage.
>who don't want you to turn to anime and manga
Cinemaphile itself does more to drive people off of trying anime and manga than anything Cinemaphile could ever do. Go and see if you doubt me for a second.
Then they must be doing a really shitty job of it considering how popular anime and manga have been getting in recent years.
>how popular
It's gotten common. That's all it has done. It has become an industry of cheap product for it's insular, dedicated fanbase full of shut-ins with walls covered in posters, and shelves full of toys.
ubiquitous
Go look it up.
Apparently it's a Virtue with Anime but a cardinal sin for the MCU.
>it's insular, dedicated fanbase full of shut-ins with walls covered in posters, and shelves full of toys.
My dude, even rappers watch anime nowadays.
You are so white it hurts.
My dude, even rappers watch capeshit nowadays.
You are elevating the common-ness of Anime, big shit.
And the funny thing is, the percentage of actual risk-taking capeshit, like Joker and Deadpool is VASTLY higher than the percentage of non-formula Anime, which barely takes any risks at all any more. That some rappers watch the fricking umpteenth GOKU MUST GET STRONGA movie means nothing to me. They have never been bastions of decent taste.
>And the funny thing is, the percentage of actual risk-taking capeshit, like Joker and Deadpool is VASTLY higher than the percentage of non-formula Anime
Again, so white it hurts.
If you are trying to hurt my feelings because I do not give a SINGLE FRICK what cartoon some zoomie mumble-rapper on Tik-tok watches, you are going to have to try harder.
The cool rappers were into classic Kung-Fu movies, hell some of them even MADE Kung-Fu movies. I doubt they gave a frick how strong Brolly is this time. If Spotemgottem or whoever cares, good for him.
>"A-anime is only popular with incel consoomers!"
>Anime is literally enjoyed by dudes who've seen more pussy than you could ever hope to
>"I-I don't even care about how popular anime is!"
What an endless cope.
Now you are fantasizing about what my dick has been up to, and your favorite zoomie rapper's "b"bc.
You are getting super-gay. Again. We are trying to talk about cartoons but you cannot JUST do that.
>We are trying to talk about cartoons
Lol, you're the one who brought up live action stuff to begin with.
I'm sorry you don't realize how out of touch you are you crusty boomer loser.
I brought up the lack of focus on animation in the USA because they are super-prolific in live action/CGI/live-action with CGI, and Japan cannot into these things so they fall back to Anime, which is the pure Truth.
Then you started in with the "OMG AMERICAN MEDIA SO GAY" or at least won't let that tangent die, and now you are trying to impress me with the discerning tastes of mumble-rappers for some fricking reason.
You never responded to any of my posts on the sad state of Japanese animation because you cannot. You and I both know the truth about the sorry, sorry state of the Japanese Animation industry, hentai or not.
It's just folding in on themselves. Soon they'll release the umpteenth iteration of "Your Name" and it will get a thousand Japanese claps and awards, because that will be BY FAR the most "innovative" thing they've accomplished all year long.
And it makes you as sick as it does me (I have a wall full of older anime), so you've come to Cinemaphile to shitpost away your pain.
>I brought up the lack of focus on animation in the USA because they are super-prolific in live action
In other words, you brought up live action.
Yes, I did not deny that at any point. I did not bring up the "how gay is American media" shit however.
Again, if Patlabor was an american comic book/cartoon, someone would be throwing $200 million dollars at it with A-list actors and solid CGI.
Japan however will not because they cannot. So they keep churning out formula animation.
You'd moan about the capeshit, I'm willing to bat more Isekai is coming out a year than capeshit.
>Again, if Patlabor was an american comic book/cartoon, someone would be throwing $200 million dollars at it with A-list actors and solid CGI.
Lolyea, people said the same thing about Cowboy Bebop for years.
Sorry dude, but Hollywood isn't even a shadow of its former self, it's nothing but junk as far as big budget shit goes.
All You Need is Kill was turned into Edge of Tomorrow/Live, Die, Repeat
And it and Speed Racer are far and away the standouts among translations. And if you are familiar with the original manga (as I am) you are aware that they took MASSIVE liberties in turning it into a Cruise-sci kino.
>And if you are familiar with the original manga (as I am)
Clearly you're not that familiar considering All You Need is Kill wasn't a manga, but an LN, and didn't get a manga adaptation until the same year Edge of Tomorrow released, largely as an advertisement for the movie.
>All You Need is Kill wasn't a manga, but an LN
Pedentry, I've read the manga, I do not read Japanese sci fi novels.
We aren't discussing novels either. We are discussing Anime/Manga and movie translations thereof. Pedantry isn't some winning virtue.
Really, if "man you so white" is what you got left in the tank, it's time to gather your shreds of dignity and crawl away Anon.
>troony thread
Anon, open your eyes, this thread was a simple question OP asked about porn, that has nothing to do with trannies unless you're just mentally ill.
I'm responding to a particular obsessed troony-poster, seeing if I can get him to come out of his closet (or even just hang himself). If that's not you, you can continue to just weeb-post.
Or if that IS you, you can stfu about it.
There is.
But isn't really that popular. Eros Comics was a thing back in the day, and I think Jim Balent is still publishing Tarot. Aside from that, everyone just sells digital content because it's cheaper to publish.
For the medium to flourish, it must be repressed.
So if you want to "punch down" at Western Animation, give it your best shot. A lot of it is not that great, freely admitted.
But I will counter-punch at your Weebshit, because it's in a catastrophic state of affairs, and the sheer volume of it (and it's unoriginality) is actually a negative, and I don't care which fricking rapper is into it, the same way I don't choose western cartoons based on e-celebs, rappers or anyone else.
The fricking cope
Goddamn did you bring anything to this thread but some buzzwords and a 50 IQ?
How do you even convince yourself to keep living?
First time posting in this thread
I've never understood the "THERE'S TOO MUCH" critique when it comes to media. Like you somehow need to consume all of it or can't be bothered to actually look for stuff you might like
>First time posting in this thread
Fine. I don't mind you posting against me, or even being hostile, but put some FRICKING effort into it. Spare me your NO U shit.
If you have a point, make it.
No u
Even for the degenerates in japan, the hentai industry is not that big compared to the normal anime. Most of the productions are just cheap crap. Doing that type of operation in the west would be even more niche and low quality, so it's not worth the effort.
>Some degenerate psycho attacked Kyo-Ani over trains or some shit
>No degenerate psycho will take one for the team and burn Queen Bee to the fricking ground
>No Euro directors are lining up to make jap-shit
Anon, we just recently had a European animated film release that's literally based on a manga.
Really? Which one? Because I was still hoping for T
wo Queens the French/Jap anime.
Summit of the Gods.
Seems fairly interesting.
The French actually still have a comic industry
>American studios barely care about jap-shit.
American studios barely care about anything nowadays, 99% of adaptations they make are absolute garbage, as are 99% of their original productions.
MOVIE studios care about recovering box office, so they are sequel-chasing and desperate to find another franchise they can sequel. And fighting the Streaming warz with whatever they can cook up.
And if it's 99% garbage, then it's no worse than Japan's output.
The fricking cope
You bore me, I'm off to bed.
Sweet memes, anon
>MOVIE studios care about recovering box office
Lol, not anymore, Disney disproved that by being perfectly fine having Lightyear be banned in like 15 territories and given higher ratings in others (harming their box office) so they could keep the gay kiss in.
As it stands American studios don't seem to care about anything, be it quality or even making as much money as possible.
>Disney disproved that by being perfectly fine having Lightyear be banned in like 15 territories
China is all they give a frick about, and China is pretty well done with the West.
Some camel-jockey petro-States have never meant anything, and MBS is turning into a major authoritarian c**t too.
I remember the complaints that Disney was pandering to these shit-holes, now it's mocking them for ignoring their demands.
Just endless, endless low-effort shitposts.
Just cut to "GOD I HAET DISNEY" throw your feces and move on.
>Some camel-jockey petro-States have never meant anything, and MBS is turning into a major authoritarian c**t too.
Actually, I was referring more to the South and Southeast Asian territories.
Places like Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. etc.
It almost seems like the list of countries willing to put up with America's shit is getting smaller and smaller.
The Rodeo Beepboop adaptation was just embarrassing
You also gotta love that they turned the character who got severe gyno from antipsychotics and hated that he was literally a man with breasts into a trans/genderqueer icon