Why the frick was this dude a Gryffindor? I thought their main trait was supposed to be bravery?
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Why the frick was this dude a Gryffindor? I thought their main trait was supposed to be bravery?
the hat lets you pick whatever you want he probably thought "please please put me in the same house as these based guys"
The hat puts people brave enough to ask in Gryffindor. If you ask to be put in Ravenclaw, you'll get Gryffindor
so everyone knows griffindor is full of weakling that just asked the hat. it's not bravery to ask that stupid hat anything. I could kill the sorting hat if I so choose
it's not necessarily traits you have sometimes it's traits you admire
like hermione was more of a ravenclaw in terms of personality but she valued gryffindor qualities more at the end of the day
>friendship and brattery
> hermione was more of a ravenclaw in terms of personality
No she isn’t. Ravenclaw isn’t the smart house, it’s the autistic house. They tend to think outside the box and question things. Hermione is very book smart, but she’s also largely inflexible in her thinking. Ravenclaws are not.
>Ravenclaw isn’t the smart house, it’s the autistic house. They tend to think outside the box and question things.
Source: the one autistic Ravenclaw that has lines
Inflexible thinking is a symptom of autism
No.
oh ok
Well done, you go into the moron house
Frick you!
Yes autists love change and are famous for being flexible in their way of thinking
>very book smart, but she’s also largely inflexible in her thinking
Sounds like some of the key features of being a high-functioning autist. Of course the thinking outside of box can also be one of the features because autistic people internalize less things based on what other people/the herd thinks.
you're correct except about the autistic part
hermione is probably the most autistic character and it's part of why she doesn't belong in ravenclaw. she's all rules and order and seriously struggles with anything outside of that. she has no patience for it. her studiousness is irrelevant to her house, she not only values friendship and bravery above most things but she was the most unconditionally loyal person to harry, even when she had doubts, and was brave enough to at least not shy away from a situation, and headstrong enough to be a pushy b***h about what she thought was the right thing, she's 100% a gryffindor
You know I kind of agree with you. I think the general descriptions of the characters in ravenclaw and their traits regarding school get people confused and lumped into the smart kids category. I think the vague description of intelligence as one of the main values doesn't help either, because if you look at the other values of the house, they give you a more detailed idea; wisdom, creativity, independence. From those descriptors alone it seems like most of them should be categorized as edgy libertarians, theater kids, history buffs or artsy nerds. I think from all objective indicators slytherin would seem like the more conventionally intelligent house, being cunning, sly and having good people skills but I think the books being in a school setting muddy the waters on that a bit. It's not so much that ravenclaw is the smart house, it's really more studious and the types of intelligences drawn from the house values apply more directly to school and institutionally applied learning and knowledge so of course to the average dumbass who reads the book they think "ravenclaw smart, huffelpuff dumb, griffindor, brave and syltherin bully" Rowling is not the most intelligent human being nor even a good writer so of course her archetypes are obvious and most characters fall into 1 dimensional character tropes yet she is creative enough that her world building overcomes those flaws and still allows for discussion and interesting analysis almost 30 years later.
sounds like a bunch of inconsistent world building to me
There's plenty of inconsistent world building, but the hat isn't it. Personal choice matters, you literally see it with Harry. The hat almost puts him in Slytherin, but Harry begs to not go there because Malfoy was a c**t, so it puts him in Gryffindor instead.
I haven't read the books in ages but didn't Malfoy try to befriend him on the train and Harry was a dick to him because Ron told him he hated the Malfoy family?
Harry met Malfoy in a clothing shop in diagon alley earlier where Malfoy was shit talking muggles and non pure wizards, showing his true colours right away, Harry already knew they didn't see eye to eye before declining the friendship
>live with and be treated like shit by muggles your entire life never knowing why
>finally find out youre magic and thats why
>meet another wizard boy and hes nice to you but says something mean about the people who tortured you your whole life
Gee I guess frick this blonde guy huh? What a piece of shit, cant wait to tell my uncle and cousin how I stood up for them.
Draco pls
>didn't Malfoy try to befriend him
In a really shitty way. He says something to the effect of "some families like mine are just born better, and some families like Ron's are just trash" when Harry and Ron are clearly already getting along at that point.
>some families like mine are just born better, and some families like Ron's are just trash
An objectively true statement.
The Weasley house is maximum comfy.
Parents fricking in top of precariously fabricated tower house, whole house swaying and creeking, muggle shit falling off shelves, Ron and Harry look at eachother and then to hermonie...
Not really to wizards. Wealth means nothing since you can just create whatever you want with magic. You can go anywhere and do basically anything. Wealth in the real world matters because only rich people can afford to look and act rich, not have to work, go on expensive trips etc. whereas poors starve on the streets wearing rags. This does not apply to the Wizarding World so Malfoy looking down on Ron makes no sense except for drama.
Maybe MAYBE if Rowling set up that they were related to some wizard royalty, sure. But she never did. AFAIK the most lore we got about Malfoy's family is that they supported Voldie.
He looked down on him for his mongrel stereotypical irish family lifestyle and simpleton father and mother compared to malfoys pure blood and affluent family.
The point of wealth is to Lord it over the muggles.
Lord knows I'd be giving myself some major cancers, getting some serious terminal diagnoses and going back next week for a check up. Gee doc I guess I was just drinking my own piss and spent 2 hours a day screaming at the top of my lungs pass that one on.
>Not really to wizards
Harry only defeated Voldermort because he was the heir to an ancient, powerful bloodline.
>be Draco Malfoy
>have only one son
>son has the hots for Ron Weasley's half-breed daughter
>winning
At least his bloodline will live on through the family with the breeding kink
In general yes but the irony is that the Malfoy house was actually worse than the Weasley house, not better. More morally degenerated, supported Voldemort, dad was a literal death eater, etc. This is also shown later with the Black house being a hellhole, all these elitist families have severely degraded by Harry's time and are hanging on to their blood heritage because they have nothing else going for them, save wealth which as another anon pointed out is of much less consequence in the Wizarding world than in the muggle one. Notice how Draco is rich and Ron is poor but they both go to the same school and both generally have access to the same opportunities.
It would've been funny if Malfoy ended up with Ginny and was deeply ashamed of it.
Haha it would have been funny if Harry cursed Malfoy into being a girl and then made him be his girlfriend lol and at first Malfoy didn't like it but it felt good in his new body haha so he eventually accepted his new life lol
just make her an additional character that is Malfoy's fraternal twin sister and Malfoy seethes over Harry and Ron fricking her
I thought the hat was just fricking with him.
Nah, it looks in your head, but it also lets you have some say in the matter. Harry is cunning, but he's also brave, so the hat let Harry choose.
what if you thought about putting your dick in the hat?
Everybody knows that she was secretly a Slytherine bawd
Fricking sentence fragmented piece of shit fricking quote.
Segregating the students and creating class wars is just very classy
Would the books/movie have been more kino with Ron in Griffindor, Hermione in Ravenclaw, Neville in Hufflepuff, and Harry and Slytherin?
>Harry has to share a dorm room with Malfoy
And you thought the fanfics were bad enough already.
that part in the 6th book where he stalks malfoy every night through the map was very creepy
Do you think Malfoy made Crabb and Goyle do other stuff when besides guarding the Room when they were transformed into first year girls?
Kek. Reminder Harry and Draco's sons are gay in the new Cursed Child.
>“Scorpius is the most important person in my life. He might always be the most important person in my life.”
>“If he’s going to be the most important person in your life, I think that’s a very good thing.”
on the one hand it would be cool for the kids to overcome arbitrary divisions imposed on them by the school and come together in friendship and unity, each bringing something different to the table, so yes
on the other hand, today it would be played for diversity points, so no
Nope,
>Ron in Hufflepuff
>Hermione Ravenclaw
>Neville Gryffindor
>Harry Slytherin
>Rob
Fighter
>Hermione
Magic user
>Neville
Halfling
>Harry
Elf
It would have been better to not have the different houses at all since ultimately it never has any relevance to the plot and is largely forgotten halfway through the series. But if you must have the houses system in place, yes, have the MCs be in different houses for drama's sake. Why do that system but just have all the MCs except the foil of the protagonist in the same house? Stupid.
I always assumed it was to pad the world out and make the school seem bigger
>oh yeah lets not forget there are 4x as many students in this school at all times
>no i dont think we will record more than a handful of them ever however
The sorting hat is admittedly a bunch of bullpucky
The best I've ever heard it described is it's something similar to Neville. He was just kind of this vague blob of a human. Kind of wanted power, kind of smart, kind of loyal, kind of brave. So the hat just threw him in the house where he had the best chance at succeeding. But Wormtail was a dumbass butthole and fricked it up.
Maybe he was based as a kid and then became a prick when he was an adult.
Wasn’t he supposed to have lost part of his humanity from having spent so much time as a rat?
It's strongly implied that Gryffindors are just people who asked the hat to put them in Gryffindor
I think the same happens with the other houses but if you're an indecisive moron with no opinion you get chucked into the Hufflepuff gulag.
I’ve got a worm for Hermione’s tail, if you catch my drift.
He wasnt even necessarily a bad guy i dont think. Just put in a bad situation vs. super hitler. what would you have done any different?
I would have turned myself into a wand and then hide in the wand shop and then when the wandmaster of wandkanda offered to sell me to some unsuspecting child I'd turn back into myself and throw a pie in their face.
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I'll bump his thread just because it clearly pisses you off. Maybe he slid one of your poorly hidden homosexual agenda threads you keep posting.
>his thread
very funny
His decision to transition to a rodent in a pet/master relationship with a family of teenage boys was both beautiful and brave and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
>turns into your pet rat for 10+ years
>watches you blossom into a young man and fap in your room 3 times a day
>says nothing
Do rats get erections?
theyre dicklets but ofcourse they do
Some men can't be made to talk. He was an original gangster that worked for Don Voldemort.
>Fred and George check the marauders map
>see Ron sleeping with some guy named Peter every night for 10 years
>say nothing
They thought he wasn't ready to come out of the closet and respected his privacy obviously
Joanne Rowling is a shit writer what did you expect
really liked scabbers, did not care for him being some pedophile human in disguise and then they never replaced him. speaking of i dont even think they showed hermiones cat more than twice
Their pets were mostly forgotten after book 3 or so. Always felt bad for Hedwig finally getting mentioned again in the last book and it’s getting killed by a stray magic spell.
Harry never getting a pet snake is shenanigans.
Why was hufflepuff so universally shit? It was like being told "you are a piece of shit of zero worth" to be sent there
The chaddest student was in Hufflepuff but I think that was just Rowling throwing them a bone.
I think they probably just didn't get enough screentime. It's the house of loyalty, it's probably really chill there, and they probably stick together like glue during any bad shit.
Holy shit three probablys, I need coffee.
Because Rowling is genuinely dumb. That can be used to explain away anything in the franchise because it's true.
>why didn't they just use a truth potion on Harry or just take the literal memory out of his head to see that Voldemort really was back instead of trying him in court?
Because Rowling is genuinely dumb.
>why weren't Ron and Hermoine in different houses so that the franchise could have a theme of unity instead of every main character being an assigned hero?
Because Rowling is genuinely dumb
>why wasn't Draco a cute girl that had a crush on Harry but wasn't able to properly express herself when they first met and she thought he rejected him so she did a 180 and became an ice queen toward him but over the books she joins in the adventures and they both grow closer culminating with the cruel choice of Dracolina having to defend her family by obeying Voldemort and killing Harry's defacto father or choosing Harry and that's why Snape had to step in and kill Dumbledore instead and in the last book Dracolina convinces Slytherin to ally with the other houses and she and Harry get married?
Because Rowling is genuinely dumb
>why didn't they just use a truth potion on Harry or just take the literal memory out of his head to see that Voldemort
The ministry didn't want to believe and therefore didn't go out of their way to try and investigate Harry's claims.
You're absolutely correct about the rest of it though. tfw no racist tsundere gf
>why wasn't the story completely focused on Vernon Dursley being comfy and then getting peeved over mundane things for arbitrary reasons?
Because Rowling is genuinely dumb
>why wasn't Draco a cute girl that had a crush on Harry but wasn't able to properly express herself when they first met and she thought he rejected him so she did a 180 and became an ice queen toward him but over the books she joins in the adventures and they both grow closer culminating with the cruel choice of Dracolina having to defend her family by obeying Voldemort and killing Harry's defacto father or choosing Harry and that's why Snape had to step in and kill Dumbledore instead and in the last book Dracolina convinces Slytherin to ally with the other houses and she and Harry get married?
Because the books weren't a lame frickin fanfic written by a waifu-obsessed 14 year old coomer homosexual maybe. Just a thought.
He is brave
Just not on the side of the heroes
Betrays his friends who would happily murder him to Voldy for more power. Spends years in disguise. Is the only Death Eater to actually make a fricking effort to help Voldy.
Sure, he's not a c**t like the rest of his teen friends were but he's the bravest character in the books by far
JK is a hack sure but she never really pointed out how Wormtail was probably the biggest 'give no fricks' dude in the story.
This is true, he was incredibly fricked up from being a rat for years as well
"No!"
Are there wizard morons?
Because the house system is nonsense. Apparently Umbridge was a Slytherin rather than a Huffelpuff. Makes no sense.
Because the reality is that
>Gryffindor
Main character house
>Hufflepuff
Comedic sidekick house
>Ravenclaw
Smart sidekick house
>Slytherin
Villain house
It's pretty harsh to tell little children that "you will be villains, regards: hat".
I'm talking about the movies even tho I read the books too, but I liked the first two movies because they really drive the point home that Harry is living a shitty live and he suddenly finds himself in a colorful and exciting world where everyone is interested in him. It's really no wonder that these books/movies resonate with troubled people (children). I disliked watching the movies from 3rd onwards because every single one of them was full of darkness and angst. It does make sense considering the characters are growing to face adult stuff and there's a war coming, but it gets repetitive if you watch it back to back. Besides, Harry does kill a person in the first book/movie (it's not an accident even if it's self-defense, I recall he straight up burns the guy's face to the ashes) and still the movie manages to not be filled with darkness and angst.
I'd liked the third film a lot because thirteen-year-old me thought Emma Watson was a total baddie.
I don't recall the 3rd movie being bad and it had interesting plots and expectations subversion without having a big bad. Just saying that the eternal darkness starts to really fatigue by the 5th movie and it's nothing but darkness until the final movie epilogue.
I definitely think the first two are the best in terms of atmosphere, but I think they're all consistently good, though the fourth and fifth are probably the most forgetable.
Ngl I still like the 4th because it's the final film where Harry is clearly out of his league and can barely do any magic besides fly his broom. Once harry becomes a competent duelist, the series loses its magic to me. Harry being a middling wizard up against a world filled with scary magic is the heart of the story for me.
I stopped reading a few chapters into the seventh book and stopped watching after the sixth film. I recently went back and finished both the films and the books and thought that they were all consistently good. In terms of the films, I think the first two are the most enjoyable because of all the wondrous elements; by contrast, I liked how serious the last two books were in relation to everything that had come before.
I'm biased because I stopped reading and watching when part 5 came but I recall 4 being the movie where an important character died and then they just had to ramp up the darkness to have a similar reaction from audience later. The parts 6-8 just fuse as one for me but that's the bias because I didn't see them when they came out.
Cedric wasn't mentioned before the fourth movie, so his death was only shocking because of the great acting on part of the father and he was handsome. so it's kind of a cop out, the teacher with the coke bottle glasses being killed was more of a impact. they should have had Cedric as a more prominent character earlier on, or atleast in the third movie have him be introduced as they did with sirius,
Right now that you mentioned it I think he was basically introduced in the same story just to be killed so not that important character, but regardless it was the moment when shit became serious even if people died before that.
>It's pretty harsh to tell little children that "you will be villains, regards: hat".
I dunno, I'd feel badass as hell. Like I get to be Johnny Lawrence and shit.
you'd have to be brave as shit to transform into a rat and live in a castle filled with owls
Harry potter has no logic or actual worldbuilding because it supposed to be a children's cozy comfy night time fairy tale. And it was first 2 books. Then it all went to shit after the movies saw success. Rowling doesn't even care to retcon things she just straight up ignores her own rules. HP was ruined when they started changing it to cinematic universe capeshit.
>why did <anything> in harry potter?
Because that's what rowling wanted
Literally everything was just thrown together
>hermione was a gryffindor even though she was the smartest student in the school and should have been ravenclaw
>ron was a gryffindor even though he was kind of a mong (therefore hufflepuff) but also jealous and resentful of his brothers and his better friend (therefore slytherin)
>draco was a slytherin because he was a big meanie doodoo head even though he didn't really want to be evil and was just insecure, lonely and a bit stuck up
Etc.
>jealous and resentful of his brothers and his better friend (therefore slytherin)
How is that slytherin?
Would've been cool if Harry, Hermione, Ron and Draco all came from different houses. Would've given it an Avatar TLA vibe.