Armitage III is the first one
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Armitage III (アミテージ・ザ・サード, Amitēji Za Sādo) is a 1995 cyberpunk original video animation series. It centers on Naomi Armitage, a highly advanced "Type-III" android. In 1996, the series was edited into a film called Armitage: Poly-Matrix (アミテージ POLY-MATRIXポリマトリックス, Amitēji Pori Matorikkusu).
The series was followed up in 2002 with a sequel, Armitage: Dual-Matrix (アミテージ DUAL-MATRIXデューアルマトリックス, Amitēji Dyūaru Matorikkusu) set some years after the original story.
The economy of Japan. In the 80s they were throwing money at any edgy idea. Lots of output but the technique of making/editing was still bad. In the 90s they had normalized budjets but the creativity was still there but way more honed. 2000s have some good kino series.
Mostly because the stuff you're thinking of was released as an "OVA", or "original video animation," which meant they didn't have to worry about TV standards for sex and violence. This still happens today in some cases (Devilman Crybaby for example was direct to Netflix which meant they were able to be a lot more graphic with it), but the golden age of the OVA is more or less over.
It's worth noting there were still plenty of shows on TV in the 80s and 90s, and you'll find that they were far more tame.
Yep. Lots of the amazing 80's anime people see posted is from OVA's with pretty solid budgets. I've watched way more 80's anime than any person ever should, and most of it is pretty mundane and the animation isn't anything amazing. OVA's though, shit got wild. I'll never forget watching Megazone 23 Part 2 for the first time and thinking it was a fever dream.
Yeah... sex and violence aren't what set anime's prime, in the 80s and 90s, apart from everything before, during, and since. Some of the best examples of anime (evangelion, berserk) were on broadcast
but it doesn't
arcane might be the first cgi anime that actually looks really good, you quickly forgot that this is cgi because they somehow mastered it, while the nips are still struggling with it
take a look at the trigun 2023 remake, full cgi, made 7 years after the dogshit 2016 berserk CLANK CLANK anime, and it still looks like shit. Way better than berserk 2016, but orders of magnitude worse than arcane.
Anime's popularity is due to fansubbing's efforts in the 00's, when digital distribution got easy.
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A truthism of 15 years ago. It's not really true now. The days of "it's just digital color" or "it's just the mecha" are a distant memory.
God, I wish. Even static images of girls from Moe shows are CGI half the time now. Or at the very least all the coloring/shading/effects. More like 95% of anime is 3D with a filters slapped on.
Coloring and visual effects are done mostly by a software today. Gundam S(n)eed from yearly 00s is the prime example of this. It looks soulless. Today it's the same, except studios tend to overuse blur and digital lightning.
almost all of them. They aren't CG like in a Pixar movie. It's CG from specific angles and with specific filters to flatten the CG and make it appear 2D.
Pic related is a good example. Using a 3D model, rigging it in strange ways to make it look like a traditional 2D drawing. Weird times we're in, man.
Wrong, unless you outsource animation in a studio located in Best Korea. Modern CG animating processes are much more efficient than having to draw everything by hand.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Computer animation is more expensive and always has been. The benefit of computer animation is speed, not cost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Then why are most anime still 2D? You would expect everything to look like the Trigun reboot at this point
CG can absolutely be soulful. The problem is that most studios are only using it to gain time and like I already said, money, while actually talented studios manage to integrate it well enough to not be obvious for the viewer.
Then why are most anime still 2D? You would expect everything to look like the Trigun reboot at this point
3DCG made to immitate 2D style is dominating at that point.
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>troony propaganda
No thanks.
The nips have plenty of stories with transsexual chars. It's a trope as old as mankind, it's simply not supposed to be political and pushed on the whole society as something desirable for the masses.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think by "CGI" most people here mean post-processing and coloring effects. I watched 500 anime titles and I agree with the OPs opinion. Post 90s anime does look soulless.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Post 90s anime does look soulless.
Big studios like Ghibli still manage to have soul despite the use of CG, but you're mostly right. Take a movie like Jin Roh. On the DVD bonus, the director says that he knew that it was probably his last chance to make a movie like that with only hand drawn animation. He was right, and if the movie was made with CG coloring, it would have looked completely different, probably visually much too clean.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>CG can absolutely be soulful
no, it can't. "soul" is human imperfection. drawing by hand creates imperfection. generating with a computer does not.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>3DCG made to immitate 2D style is dominating at that point.
No, very few animes use 3DCG.
I mean, most 3DCG uses in modern anime use cell shaders to mimic the hand drawn aspect.
And yes most anime still uses paper-drawn animation scanned into computers.
And fricking morons still don't know how technology works. Being CGI in no way means that it is somehow automatically being animated by a computer.
CG was a step above rotoscoping technique the common usage was
- animating scenes that require strict observance of the perspective(camera orbiting, mechanical objects movement, etc)
- simulations that used for certain VFX
Economic boom in the 80's meant a whole bunch of Japanese got into the industry, learned a whole bunch from the veterans, and passed on their knowledge.
Nowadays entry level positions are all outsourced or not even inhouse and there's no mentorship. The chain is broken.
1. Pioneering Creativity: Anime in the '80s and '90s showcased groundbreaking storytelling and artistic innovation, setting the stage for many of the genre's classic tropes and themes.
2. Hand-drawn Artistry: The animation was predominantly hand-drawn, leading to a unique visual charm and attention to detail that still captivates fans today.
3. Iconic Series: Many legendary anime series originated during this era, such as "Dragon Ball," "Naruto," "Sailor Moon," "Neon Genesis Evangelion," and "Cowboy Bebop."
4. Emotional Impact: The '80s and '90s anime often conveyed powerful emotions, building strong connections between viewers and the characters' struggles.
5. Cultural Influence: These decades witnessed a surge in the popularity of anime worldwide, fostering a lasting global appreciation for Japanese animation and pop culture.
so glad I grew up in this era
This + butt naked Ariel, I knew from the start that I would worship women's ass for the rest of my life, even if I didn't know exactly what that meant at the time.
>posts a film made to satisfy the masses filtered by the TV ending
Nice revisionism, homosexual. The TV ending was due to budget cuts. EoE was always intended to be the actual ending.
After the first broadcast of the animated series Neon Genesis Evangelion, some viewers felt unsatisfied. According to official information and staff statements, problems with the schedule, delays in production, and some personal indecision on the part of the director Hideaki Anno[5] led to the abandonment of the original script of the penultimate episode. In the case of the last episode, "Take care of Yourself", Anno stated in an interview he had roughly followed the original plan instead.[6][7] The two final episodes, which focus on psychological introspection and long inner monologues of the protagonists,[8] met the expectations of Gainax studio's staff but became a source of discussion for fans; although the finale concluded the most important psychological themes of the series, it abandoned the main plot, giving rise to controversy.[9][10] The issue was debated throughout Japan, fueling the series' already-high popularity.[11][12] Fans demanded a new ending[13] or, at least, a conclusion that answered the open questions.[14][
Wrong. Episode 25 was supposed to be the first half of EoE, but episode 26 was always supposed to be the finale.
So I encourage taking all of Anno's statements with a grain of salt but Anno has said outright that the EoE events of episode 25 are very close to what they wanted the tv show to before they ran out of time but that episode 26 as aired is very close to what they wanted it to be in the first place.
There's no point arguing with delusional homosexuals. I'm not even gracing them with my (you)s.
After the first broadcast of the animated series Neon Genesis Evangelion, some viewers felt unsatisfied. According to official information and staff statements, problems with the schedule, delays in production, and some personal indecision on the part of the director Hideaki Anno[5] led to the abandonment of the original script of the penultimate episode. In the case of the last episode, "Take care of Yourself", Anno stated in an interview he had roughly followed the original plan instead.[6][7] The two final episodes, which focus on psychological introspection and long inner monologues of the protagonists,[8] met the expectations of Gainax studio's staff but became a source of discussion for fans; although the finale concluded the most important psychological themes of the series, it abandoned the main plot, giving rise to controversy.[9][10] The issue was debated throughout Japan, fueling the series' already-high popularity.[11][12] Fans demanded a new ending[13] or, at least, a conclusion that answered the open questions.[14][
I'm pretty bored with dissuading the same tired old Eva myth's personally.
It's only really any fun to talk about it with that rare someone that's new and watched it raw and without a lot of preconceptions.
fans of current anime (who aren't japanese) have nothing to do with the state of current anime. Attempts to appeal to the west were attempted, and failed, after the nip economy collapsed.
Ironically porn and nerd culture. Back then even nerds lived most of their lives in real world so they had ample amount of experience of what was actually interesting and nice and were able to draw cool realistic feeling shit and actually hot, realistic feeling women. Nowdays nerds grow up in front of screens and fapping to porn/hentai so they don't have any real life experience. Meaning any media they still can muster up the motivation to create is a plastic, soulless copy of endless amount of copies that feels uncanney in every way. This is the ultimate and only truth. In order to create good media you must stop doing nerd shit, browsing internet and most importantly, you must stop watching porn completely.
>Nowdays nerds grow up in front of screens and fapping to porn/hentai so they don't have any real life experience
If they made anime more accurate to real life most the women would be fat, tatted and otherwise ugly. I know you would love that but keep it to yourself.
Because everything was better in the 80s, the 80s was literally the peak of all entertainment, it did not get better. It was the objectively perfect mix of grass roots traditional skill on display from people who had time to hone their craft from the 60s/70s, the pop culture was reaching levels of degeneracy that were just right for light hearted fun without getting too excessive, and they were still trying to entertain the world not demoralize the citizens. Also this is when synth music and licensed scores blew up, adding new levels of kino we literally did not conceive of as possible. The 90s was ok but its entertainment is objectively worse and what makes it good is carryover/degradation of what made 80s good.
My philosophy is the drugs that are popular at the time influence the art, you only need to look at the drug to see the quality of the art for that decade >70s LSD/Mushrooms everyone is finding god and love >80s cocaine has everyone performing at their peak ability
All true. >reaching levels of degeneracy that were just right for light hearted fun without getting too excessive
Its quite ironic, people back then were very sexual, much more than the puritans we have become today, but they were classy about it. There was less foul language and the depravity was more implied than shown. It's like of course when the hero goes to an exotic country he gets laid or fricks a prostitute. It goes with out saying, you just get shown a glimpse of it and you know. And instead of it outright spoken its implied with an inneudo.
I know this is a term for sexually conservative, but it doesn't apply to what is going on now. Absolutely disgusting Cardi B tier, sloppy fat-asses twerking is perfectly fine to shovel to the masses. It is only a problem when genuinely appealing looking women are in male focused entertainment, then no more panty-shots, no more busty women, no aesthetically pleasing anything is allowed
Yes I meant in contrast to the 80s, actual physical sex is vilified and discouraged. >sex is exploitation >woman regrets it therefore its rape >she's 19 years old therfore pedophilia >male gaze
And so on. But in the culture, in the music and visual media it's completely explicit and open. You're bombarded with sex. It's an inversion of the 80s.
I know this is a term for sexually conservative, but it doesn't apply to what is going on now. Absolutely disgusting Cardi B tier, sloppy fat-asses twerking is perfectly fine to shovel to the masses. It is only a problem when genuinely appealing looking women are in male focused entertainment, then no more panty-shots, no more busty women, no aesthetically pleasing anything is allowed
It's both true and false at the same time because the people controlling the tone have cognitive dissonance. It's simultaneously overtly deviant and finger-waggingly prudish.
March naked in the bawd walk and pay a drag queen to twerk at children, but don't you dare make an attractive fictional character to appeal to men.
Sub or dub? I've heard the actual plot is trash and the dub saves it. I've also heard that the humor in the duh is cringy and racist by people calling others incels. So I've heard mixed reviews on the sub being good and the dub also being good.
Yeah, I fricked up on the wording. I have no idea what the frick happened to me there. Anyways, I was asking if I should watch it subbed or dubbed since I've heard mixed reviews about both. Just want to know if the actual plot of the sub is good or if I should just watch the dub version.
The dub is funny if you were watching dubs from around that time period. It's very, very, very dated, and even back then you'd only get a laugh every episode or two. It was more the novelty of hearing these voice actors you've heard for years saying shit you'd never expect them to say, especially in a series that looked so run-of-the-mill at that point.
As far as actual writing goes, it's ok. Not really worth a watch in the current year. But they did drop some race/stereotype jokes in there, so maybe by 2023 standards it'll wrap around to being funny again.
A gotcha. I mean, I watched Cromartie High dubbed and enjoyed it. Although one of its strengths is being only 10mins per episode. I'm not going to binge it so I'm sure the dub will be alright for the novelty of it.
Not sure if I'm being played here, but the dub has nothing to do with the actual show. The sub is the actual story/plot, but the dub team decided the show was boring so they re-wrote everything to be an adult comedy using the original footage. They couldn't edit anything visually though, as it would de-sync the original JP audio and subs, so that's why a lot of the writing feels weird.
Regardless, the Dub and Sub are totally different things and not comparable in any way. The sub is a pretty generic 'kids investigate ghosts' story, and the dub is a 'here's Rebecca from Pani Poni saying moron'
I know they have different plots. I was making the comparison with Cromartie High because the dub's humor might seem dated but I really did enjoy it. So I'll probably enjoy the dub of Ghost Stories as well.
there's no particular reason to watch subbed unless you like children's anime
the dub is also for children but in a dumb humor way which I find pretty funny for the most part--it's dumb but it knows it's dumb and it gets progressively more ribald as it goes
like everything it dates itself but less than I remember
>Sub or dub? I've heard the actual plot is trash and the dub saves it. I've also heard that the humor in the duh is cringy and racist by people calling others incels. So I've heard mixed reviews on the sub being good and the dub also being good.
Dub, but you need to approach it not as an anime but more of an abridged series before the concept existed. There are funny parts but many long stretches of not funny pats in between.
Worth it for the history imo
There's some truth to that but I think most people on Cinemaphile are comparing tentpoles to tentpoles. Blockbuster shit.
And common to both Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile stuff, if you're into craft even a tiny bit then it makes sense to fixate on the past. The difference between a practical stunt and cgi. The difference between color pallets or grading.
They are different. Different enough it's easy to understand liking one more or to the exclusion of another.
80s and 90s everyone was more wealthy, especially Japan. This created an environment with fostered great creativity and optimism with people much more willing to put soul and passion into their projects. It was basically the second coming of the Futurism movement. The time period feels a world away now.
Based on my limited knowledge, modern anime just seems to be low effort cash grab isekai shit, with the intention to be to get a few thousand otaku to buy the DvDs so they can see it again with slightly better animation quality and to see the main girls breasts. Then release a stream of figures of the main girl wearing less clothes each time until you can see her breasts in model form too.
Japanese culture for a while was dominated by hard-asses who grew up in the ruins of a country that had nukes dropped on it, and pulled themselves out of the shit. That's why Japanese culture from like 1960 to 2000 is sick as frick, and then it gradually trails off and gets really gay and effeminate as their overly pampered otaku children take over more and more positions.
I mean, they used to get their workers to be productive, by putting their heads through computer monitors, if they messed up. I don't think you can do that anymore.
Because it wasn't (always) pandering to pedo manchildren virgins that can't pair bond or have sex. Instead of grown women in cool art styles you've got uguu toddler faced moron babies cooing for losers who have to target undeveloped minds in order to have a chance of not dying an embarrassing virginal failure.
>Because it wasn't (always) pandering to pedo manchildren virgins that can't pair bond or have sex. Instead of grown women in cool art styles you've got uguu toddler faced moron babies cooing for losers who have to target undeveloped minds in order to have a chance of not dying an embarrassing virginal failure.
wrong
Cel animation is now a lost art. There are only like 2 working cel animation machines left in the world. 1 is owned by Don Bluth in the US and the other is in Tokyo
This man is a legend. He could draw it all, hot human women, hot furry women, hot e-girls, hot furry e-girls, everything. The man's a creative genius, but his life's work is such a travesty. Despite being able to animate and draw expressive, beautiful women that blows away the vast sweeping majority of even the best of the best Japanese artists and animators, the poor man has been so starved of money to make anything, he's had all his best years squandered. Makes me wana cry.
A legend. I supported his and Goldmans kickstarter to make a Dragons Lair movie.
I've a few signed cels by them (Secret of Nimh, American Tail and Dragons Lair).
Netflix bought the rights for the DL movie and done frick all with it (thankfully as they were going to make it live action)
Not sure if and when "Bluth Fables" will be released.
Nice Don Bluth collectables, anon. Good on you for helping Don along with funding as well. I'm not expecting Don to finish any large projects, or any projects for that matter, but at the least he made a lot of tutorials to teach young and upcominig artists his techniques, so at least hope remains for the future
The weirdest thing about this, is that the backflipping dude looking surreal is kind of on point. He's a mechanical being with artificial skin moving in ways humans can't move and at speeds human can't move either. Him being a wacky surreal being kinda works.
But then all the other characters have the same wax-like skin and weird proportions and movements. Everything looks like a fever dream in the worst ways.
>He's a mechanical being with artificial skin moving in ways humans can't move and at speeds human can't move either.
Actually he isn't, his body is still mostly human but his brain is mechanical. One of the many reasons that series was moronic.
>Actually he isn't, his body is still mostly human but his brain is mechanical
Huh, thanks for clarifying that. Never forced myself to sit through it. Would rather just read the manga again than whatever new version of Motoko is being pumped out every 4 years.
Yeah they claim it was the AI who had taken over him was doing the complex calculations needed to dodge machine gun fire, I have no idea why they didn't just make him fully mechanical since him still having his human body wasn't even important to the story. >Never forced myself to sit through it.
You are smarter then me. There is actually a few watchable episodes in the middle if you can get past the CG but the beginning is pointless filler and the ending is one of the most stupid and insulting endings I've ever seen, especially as they made it a sequel to SAC.
can somebody explain to me why Cinemaphile threads are never removed and you morons give them 100s of replies? do you just get a hard on by having a thread from another board?
you didn't answer the question, actor/actress threads are removed for being "off topic" why does anime get special treatment when there is literally an anime board? if you make a thread about sopranos in Cinemaphile its removed instantly
because Cinemaphile and anime are kinda inseparable. Anime shouldn't be the focus of any board outside of the boards it's supposed to be on, but 2-3 threads here and there are nothing to get upset about. Like
anime threads really only bother tourists to be quite honest
said, it only really bothers people that haven't been here that long. Everyone else just accepts it and slides past them.
>can anybody tell me why you are discussing Television & Film on the Television & Film board
I don't know, felt like a break from /misc/ posting I guess.
Things went to shit in the commie block in the 90s and then went to shit in the US of A in the early 2000s. You could say the USA truly went to shit after 2014, but the beginning was back in 2001. So yeah, the 80s was the last totally based decade, and the 90s was the last USA based decade.
The US inspired japanime, so yeah. I'm the first one to condemn the nasty things US intelligence agencies and politicians do, but US made entertainment was something truly influential and inspiring before the 00's. Every fricking humans in the world with XY chromosomes love movies like Predator.
Extremely high budgets due to booming Japanese economy.
Mostly original stories and settings inspired by a golden age of western action and sci fi movies.
Creators hadn't grown up with anime it or video games to poison their sensibilities and taste.
Creators were creating movies and shows simply because they wanted to tell good stories.
Target audience was adults and nerdy teenagers, not manchildren and cringe teenagers.
Globalist perspective and settings, meaning embarrassing Japanese culture was always in the background or nonexistent.
Characters were always drawn to truly represent Europeans or other races, not just nips with blonde/red/brown hair. When characters were Asian they were drawn as Asian.
Action was always subdued and drawn to be more realistic with actual weight to it instead of trying to look "cool" with awful weightless 150 foot leaps and characters duelling with 30 foot long swords cutting through mountains and firing lasers which annihilate cities but don't even singe their enemy's hair.
Animators were trying to mimic design and other top quality animation studios, not other anime studios.
There's a lot more but that's mostly the important ones.
>Want to rewatch an old anime I saw years ago >Can't torrent cause don't have a vpn right now, I browse a couple ddl sites that meet most of my needs anyway except for this case >Can only find one download >It's some homosexuals fugly ESRGAN upscale that looks smeary as shit and that he threw fake digital noise over so the filesize is bloated for the h264 and h265 encodes >Even still has rainbowing on lines because the idiot doesn't know what hes doing and probably just had some program one click solution >All the replies to the thread are sucking his dick for doing such a great job and asking that he upscale other shit
I feel like I'm the only moron on the planet who thinks these fan upscales look like shit 99% of the time. I just want the base resolution. Even if you like this shit, in the future we'll be able to do better upscales in real time, making this preupscaled shit worthless.
There are plenty of "2D" digital animes that use 3D models to animate environments and vehicles in particular that need to rotate or do something the animators are too lazy to figure out by hand. And it always looks obvious and distracting.
Wanna know a secret? There's been a program around since like 2009 called Doll Poser 3D or whatever, and pretty much every mangaka switched over to using it to pose all their characters, not just background ones. There's an image on Cinemaphile that gets posted every so often from I think the mangaka of prison school, where he shows how he uses the 3D doll model to trace his poses on to. And spoiler alert, art mannequins have been a thing for ages. Using AI is really no different, especially when it's just for posing, and not the entire piece. Smart, too. Because Mangaka get treated like shit and if they can streamline their process, then good for them. Maybe they'll stop working themselves to literal death.
there is literally nothing wrong with this. as the other guy said, people have been using reference for ages. interpreting the ai into an anime style still takes skill and effort, just like how using an art posing mannequin does all the posing work for you but you still have to interpret.
basically, lets see you use AI then be able to use your art skills to get the mustached guy's face on the right, wont happen cause you dont know anything about art lol
you realize anime backgrounds have almost always been pictures of real places, right? does this picture send you into a conniption? if anything, ai allowed them to be even more creative with their backgrounds, experimenting with prompts until they get the place and composition that works for their shot
but why bother, you're just going to post another picture of an artist intelligently using ai as a basis for their art while not understanding the first thing about art lol
The same way some movies are shot on film still is there anime still made with classic processes? I miss this look of old anime that gives me warm and fuzzy feelings even though I haven't watched anime in years.
There will be no new Akira
There will be no new GitS / Innocence
There will be no new Redline
Enjoy it, it's happened and there are so many 2D anime you haven't seen yet, watch them all until the nips finally figure out how to make decent looking 3D animated shit.
Once they get it right, it'll be a new golden age. It may take a decade, but that's what you get with an insular, conservative society. It takes time.
In the meantime, it sucks.
It's been decades
3d animation in game cutscenes has been good since they started using them, it makes no sense why they look so utterly shite in animes
> it makes no sense why they look so utterly shite in animes
The same reason why Japanese developers are still unable to write decent netcode for multiplayer games, while some lone western autist on github figured it out 17 years ago (I'm referring to GGPO, btw): nips are really, really slow to adapt to change, that's it. They peaked in the 80s, now look at how many Japanese hi-tech gadgets you have around you. They still excel at some very niche, industrial things (optics and, oddly enough, automatic gearboxes for cars), but their 15 years of technological fame are behind them.
Hey, that looked pretty cool. Look, they're getting there, but it takes time, and they're kind of cursed by their stifling 2D animation legacy.
Meanwhile, the current generation of French animators, who grew up with City Hunter, Sailor Moon, Cat's Eye and, of course, Dragon Ball... there's a whole trend trying to pay homage to their Japanese masters (looking at you, Balak and Jéméry Périn), who produced absolute kino that no one had heard of (Lastman, Peepoodo, Crisis Jung), while another pack started doing their own shit and delivered Arcane. Still very attached to the anime medium, while making their own genre-defining shit.
because you called eva "pedo shit", this leads me to believe you have a problem with your test. asuka and rei are drawn to have breasts and figures, they are not children
Okay, so we've established that traditional cel animation is gone forever, dead and buried, never coming back
Why can't we just make digital animation that looks like cel animation?
Old anime is complete slop for virgins, stop pretending otherwise. The stories are crass, vulgar and immature. They don't age alongside you. "Anime for adults" is a contradiction. A paradox.
it wasnt
You’re wrong. Pic related (before episode 78).
Wow so deep. Just like Rick and Morty
>before episode 78
Frick, does it get bad or something?
no, it gets very good at that point
just in a tragic sort of way lol
Zoomer
have you seen Lupin?
I’ll take violent, over-sexualized slop from the 80s over modern day kawaii, isekai, slice of life garbage any day
Shut your dick holster and watch Giant Robo.
Sauce?
Armitage
Nice. She looks sexo
Yeah if you watch it in dub , jessie from saved by the bell does the voice
Armitage III Polymatrix
So I'm looking this anime up, apparently there's a movie edit where they just spliced the OVAs together. Is that the version people recommend seeing?
"No."
Will I be lost if I haven't seen Armitage I and II?
Armitage III is the first one
from wiki
Armitage III (アミテージ・ザ・サード, Amitēji Za Sādo) is a 1995 cyberpunk original video animation series. It centers on Naomi Armitage, a highly advanced "Type-III" android. In 1996, the series was edited into a film called Armitage: Poly-Matrix (アミテージ POLY-MATRIXポリマトリックス, Amitēji Pori Matorikkusu).
The series was followed up in 2002 with a sequel, Armitage: Dual-Matrix (アミテージ DUAL-MATRIXデューアルマトリックス, Amitēji Dyūaru Matorikkusu) set some years after the original story.
The economy of Japan. In the 80s they were throwing money at any edgy idea. Lots of output but the technique of making/editing was still bad. In the 90s they had normalized budjets but the creativity was still there but way more honed. 2000s have some good kino series.
>2000s have some good kino series
like?
I only watch old anime
2000's is old anime now.
Naruto
it's on my watchlist
true
they were genuine attempts at trying to make art and not just otakuslop
rather, they had the resources to try to make something more than low-effort slop and then those dried up when japan's economy collapsed.
Mostly because the stuff you're thinking of was released as an "OVA", or "original video animation," which meant they didn't have to worry about TV standards for sex and violence. This still happens today in some cases (Devilman Crybaby for example was direct to Netflix which meant they were able to be a lot more graphic with it), but the golden age of the OVA is more or less over.
It's worth noting there were still plenty of shows on TV in the 80s and 90s, and you'll find that they were far more tame.
Yep. Lots of the amazing 80's anime people see posted is from OVA's with pretty solid budgets. I've watched way more 80's anime than any person ever should, and most of it is pretty mundane and the animation isn't anything amazing. OVA's though, shit got wild. I'll never forget watching Megazone 23 Part 2 for the first time and thinking it was a fever dream.
Yeah... sex and violence aren't what set anime's prime, in the 80s and 90s, apart from everything before, during, and since. Some of the best examples of anime (evangelion, berserk) were on broadcast
Because it was animated by hand. CGI turned the brains of animators into mush.
the french can do 3D animation just fine, look at arcane
>look at arcane
looks like shit
Cope. Jinx mogs all your troonyme b***hes...
>troonyme
>posts troony
What did he mean by this?
>Discernable adult skull structure
EWWWW DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ONE OF MY MOEBLOB PORCELAIN DOLLS, I CAN'T MANIPULATE AN ADULT LIKE THAT BY OFFERING TO BABYSIT, WTF
>reddit spacing
>can't read
Yep it's a troony
Mate it’s not even the art style, she looks like a massive dyke.
but it doesn't
arcane might be the first cgi anime that actually looks really good, you quickly forgot that this is cgi because they somehow mastered it, while the nips are still struggling with it
take a look at the trigun 2023 remake, full cgi, made 7 years after the dogshit 2016 berserk CLANK CLANK anime, and it still looks like shit. Way better than berserk 2016, but orders of magnitude worse than arcane.
>you quickly forgot that this is cgi
lmao it looks exactly like the shows you complain about
3D animation is universally shit you're just moronic.
True
95% of anime is still 2D, anon.
moron.
Still 2D, Black folk.
Nobody suggested anything to the contrary. Are you actually moronic?
> CGI turned the brains of animators into mush.
God, I wish. Even static images of girls from Moe shows are CGI half the time now. Or at the very least all the coloring/shading/effects. More like 95% of anime is 3D with a filters slapped on.
Coloring and visual effects are done mostly by a software today. Gundam S(n)eed from yearly 00s is the prime example of this. It looks soulless. Today it's the same, except studios tend to overuse blur and digital lightning.
holy morono
Tell me how many CG animes were released this season then.
dude, "CGI" does not equal 3D, that's why everybody is clowning on you, the switch to digital marks a before and after in anime
Digital isn't CGi.
>Digital isn't CGi.
>Computer-generated imagery
by definition digital is cgi
Yes it is you fricking moron
all of them
almost all of them. They aren't CG like in a Pixar movie. It's CG from specific angles and with specific filters to flatten the CG and make it appear 2D.
Pic related is a good example. Using a 3D model, rigging it in strange ways to make it look like a traditional 2D drawing. Weird times we're in, man.
>b-but it's 2D!
AInime
Nah, it's 3D made to look like 2D. Anime is crazy with CG now, and many don't even recognize it. It sucks, I'm not a fan.
which software is this anon?
don't know. some japanese animator was showing it off on twitter.
right simply looks like the stuff they've been doing by hand for 15 years now
This isn't even the same frame.
Not anime.
>This isn't even the same frame.
Here's a small video of a similar scene in motion.
At this point, your just wasting people's time, so I'm out. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday afternoon pretending to be moronic for (you)'s.
Even on the left you can notice it's CG, lol.
bruh CGI can be 2D.
You don't know anything about animation
Is Ghibli's method an exception or a general rule? The picture implies it is an exception.
It's pretty common nowadays, just look at the thread. CGI makes everything muuuuuuch faster, and therefore cheaper.
Fake, CG costs more than drawing.
Wrong, unless you outsource animation in a studio located in Best Korea. Modern CG animating processes are much more efficient than having to draw everything by hand.
Computer animation is more expensive and always has been. The benefit of computer animation is speed, not cost.
Then why are most anime still 2D? You would expect everything to look like the Trigun reboot at this point
I know, but it seems like
proved the point of
which he tried to disprove by posting a picture which contradicts everything he said.
CG can absolutely be soulful. The problem is that most studios are only using it to gain time and like I already said, money, while actually talented studios manage to integrate it well enough to not be obvious for the viewer.
3DCG made to immitate 2D style is dominating at that point.
The nips have plenty of stories with transsexual chars. It's a trope as old as mankind, it's simply not supposed to be political and pushed on the whole society as something desirable for the masses.
I think by "CGI" most people here mean post-processing and coloring effects. I watched 500 anime titles and I agree with the OPs opinion. Post 90s anime does look soulless.
>Post 90s anime does look soulless.
Big studios like Ghibli still manage to have soul despite the use of CG, but you're mostly right. Take a movie like Jin Roh. On the DVD bonus, the director says that he knew that it was probably his last chance to make a movie like that with only hand drawn animation. He was right, and if the movie was made with CG coloring, it would have looked completely different, probably visually much too clean.
>CG can absolutely be soulful
no, it can't. "soul" is human imperfection. drawing by hand creates imperfection. generating with a computer does not.
>3DCG made to immitate 2D style is dominating at that point.
No, very few animes use 3DCG.
look at the cost of a 3D CGI film and compare it to the very best hand drawn films, traditional animation is cheaper
the draw of CGI is
>we want to change this
>okay
vs
>we want to change this
>okay we'll need to scrap everything we've done and redraw it from scratch
In Ghibli they blended both together instead of relying only on cg because even they knew its so jarring
I mean, most 3DCG uses in modern anime use cell shaders to mimic the hand drawn aspect.
And yes most anime still uses paper-drawn animation scanned into computers.
And fricking morons still don't know how technology works. Being CGI in no way means that it is somehow automatically being animated by a computer.
CG was a step above rotoscoping technique the common usage was
- animating scenes that require strict observance of the perspective(camera orbiting, mechanical objects movement, etc)
- simulations that used for certain VFX
Economic boom in the 80's meant a whole bunch of Japanese got into the industry, learned a whole bunch from the veterans, and passed on their knowledge.
Nowadays entry level positions are all outsourced or not even inhouse and there's no mentorship. The chain is broken.
List five reasons first to prove you're human and not a bot.
1. Pioneering Creativity: Anime in the '80s and '90s showcased groundbreaking storytelling and artistic innovation, setting the stage for many of the genre's classic tropes and themes.
2. Hand-drawn Artistry: The animation was predominantly hand-drawn, leading to a unique visual charm and attention to detail that still captivates fans today.
3. Iconic Series: Many legendary anime series originated during this era, such as "Dragon Ball," "Naruto," "Sailor Moon," "Neon Genesis Evangelion," and "Cowboy Bebop."
4. Emotional Impact: The '80s and '90s anime often conveyed powerful emotions, building strong connections between viewers and the characters' struggles.
5. Cultural Influence: These decades witnessed a surge in the popularity of anime worldwide, fostering a lasting global appreciation for Japanese animation and pop culture.
Anime's popularity is due to fansubbing's efforts in the 00's, when digital distribution got easy.
A truthism of 15 years ago. It's not really true now. The days of "it's just digital color" or "it's just the mecha" are a distant memory.
This applies to music as well.
With video games you can say the same thing but in the 90s/2000s instead of the 80s.
actually it's peak oil
Hi chatgpt. Tinanmen square massacre and frick Black folk
Armitage III is pretty mediocre
She's hot though
Don't you have your own board for this homosexual shit?
Frick off there
No
Cinemaphile bullies morons, Cinemaphile is the homeland of morons. Is just how it be.
I can discuss anime on any board you fricking Black person.
anime owns this Black person nig nog website, u niggger tbh tbh desau ddesusssssssssssssssdddddduuuuuuu
Less leftism and brown people
I like hand drawn late 80s style. Feels cozy for some reason. Too bad anime evolved into a CG garbage we see today.
Appleseed never got a good video representation. The Manga is great, the first OAV is trash, and the CGI series is pretty bad. Just read it, homie.
The OVA has SOVL. It's not a masterpiece, but still a good anime.
That's pretty sad, the manga was a favorite of mine when I was a teen, and probably triggered my interest in mechas, geopolitics and guns.
explained in one image
naive medieval copies of classical antiquity
As does this
Even the top looks like shit. The bottom is just the fruit from an already rotten tree
god the highlights in super's art style are so fricking bad
Why is her belly button so high?
she's a replicant
beppy button is correct. look at non fat women and also realize its an 3 pt up angled perspective.
the US showed buts in prime time before the jesus freaks turned into SJWs and fricked everything up
so glad I grew up in this era
This + butt naked Ariel, I knew from the start that I would worship women's ass for the rest of my life, even if I didn't know exactly what that meant at the time.
because you pretend that you've watched something to fit in
i bet there are more frames in this than any seasonal anime
because robots for women and panty shots for men.
>BRO IS THAT AN 1980s ANIME???!??!
I say this
The weave through the cans isn't great.
Nobody is going that fast without using inlines.
>not fitting your rollerskates with swiss bones
ngmi
Lum is some kind of super ayylmao, she isn't human
Original UY is soul.
Nu UY is absolute soulless trash.
Recently re watched Dominion Tank Police...great stuff.
Everything was better in the 80s.
>Why was anime so good in the '80s and '90s?
Gatekeeping.
>gatekeeping
>posts a film made to satisfy the masses filtered by the TV ending
>posts a film made to satisfy the masses filtered by the TV ending
Nice revisionism, homosexual. The TV ending was due to budget cuts. EoE was always intended to be the actual ending.
No, instrumentality was supposed to succeed.
>No, instrumentality was supposed to succeed.
No it wasn't.
After the first broadcast of the animated series Neon Genesis Evangelion, some viewers felt unsatisfied. According to official information and staff statements, problems with the schedule, delays in production, and some personal indecision on the part of the director Hideaki Anno[5] led to the abandonment of the original script of the penultimate episode. In the case of the last episode, "Take care of Yourself", Anno stated in an interview he had roughly followed the original plan instead.[6][7] The two final episodes, which focus on psychological introspection and long inner monologues of the protagonists,[8] met the expectations of Gainax studio's staff but became a source of discussion for fans; although the finale concluded the most important psychological themes of the series, it abandoned the main plot, giving rise to controversy.[9][10] The issue was debated throughout Japan, fueling the series' already-high popularity.[11][12] Fans demanded a new ending[13] or, at least, a conclusion that answered the open questions.[14][
>庵野さん「TVは、時間なかったのは確か。25話が時間なくて、その25話を劇場版で作り直したんです。最終回の26話は元々あんな終わりなんです。」
Wrong. Episode 25 was supposed to be the first half of EoE, but episode 26 was always supposed to be the finale.
So I encourage taking all of Anno's statements with a grain of salt but Anno has said outright that the EoE events of episode 25 are very close to what they wanted the tv show to before they ran out of time but that episode 26 as aired is very close to what they wanted it to be in the first place.
There's no point arguing with delusional homosexuals. I'm not even gracing them with my (you)s.
>goypedia
It's sourced, homosexual. Feel free to investigate the sources.
Frick your sources adn frick you, homosexual. I'm not giving that site a single shekel.
Bow your head, pleb, you dont argue with quints here.
>the chad quints vs the reddit image
I'm pretty bored with dissuading the same tired old Eva myth's personally.
It's only really any fun to talk about it with that rare someone that's new and watched it raw and without a lot of preconceptions.
fans of current anime (who aren't japanese) have nothing to do with the state of current anime. Attempts to appeal to the west were attempted, and failed, after the nip economy collapsed.
Ironically porn and nerd culture. Back then even nerds lived most of their lives in real world so they had ample amount of experience of what was actually interesting and nice and were able to draw cool realistic feeling shit and actually hot, realistic feeling women. Nowdays nerds grow up in front of screens and fapping to porn/hentai so they don't have any real life experience. Meaning any media they still can muster up the motivation to create is a plastic, soulless copy of endless amount of copies that feels uncanney in every way. This is the ultimate and only truth. In order to create good media you must stop doing nerd shit, browsing internet and most importantly, you must stop watching porn completely.
Your theory is based on conjecture and half truths that dont look at the whole of the situation.
>implying any of the people who made armitage, kite or ninja scroll touched grass
>Nowdays nerds grow up in front of screens and fapping to porn/hentai so they don't have any real life experience
If they made anime more accurate to real life most the women would be fat, tatted and otherwise ugly. I know you would love that but keep it to yourself.
Because everything was better in the 80s, the 80s was literally the peak of all entertainment, it did not get better. It was the objectively perfect mix of grass roots traditional skill on display from people who had time to hone their craft from the 60s/70s, the pop culture was reaching levels of degeneracy that were just right for light hearted fun without getting too excessive, and they were still trying to entertain the world not demoralize the citizens. Also this is when synth music and licensed scores blew up, adding new levels of kino we literally did not conceive of as possible. The 90s was ok but its entertainment is objectively worse and what makes it good is carryover/degradation of what made 80s good.
My philosophy is the drugs that are popular at the time influence the art, you only need to look at the drug to see the quality of the art for that decade
>70s LSD/Mushrooms everyone is finding god and love
>80s cocaine has everyone performing at their peak ability
correct - Bill Hicks had a routine about that.
>80s cocaine
Americentric view
All true.
>reaching levels of degeneracy that were just right for light hearted fun without getting too excessive
Its quite ironic, people back then were very sexual, much more than the puritans we have become today, but they were classy about it. There was less foul language and the depravity was more implied than shown. It's like of course when the hero goes to an exotic country he gets laid or fricks a prostitute. It goes with out saying, you just get shown a glimpse of it and you know. And instead of it outright spoken its implied with an inneudo.
>Puritan
I know this is a term for sexually conservative, but it doesn't apply to what is going on now. Absolutely disgusting Cardi B tier, sloppy fat-asses twerking is perfectly fine to shovel to the masses. It is only a problem when genuinely appealing looking women are in male focused entertainment, then no more panty-shots, no more busty women, no aesthetically pleasing anything is allowed
Yes I meant in contrast to the 80s, actual physical sex is vilified and discouraged.
>sex is exploitation
>woman regrets it therefore its rape
>she's 19 years old therfore pedophilia
>male gaze
And so on. But in the culture, in the music and visual media it's completely explicit and open. You're bombarded with sex. It's an inversion of the 80s.
It's both true and false at the same time because the people controlling the tone have cognitive dissonance. It's simultaneously overtly deviant and finger-waggingly prudish.
March naked in the bawd walk and pay a drag queen to twerk at children, but don't you dare make an attractive fictional character to appeal to men.
It's a war on beauty, not a war on sex
It's both. You are more likely to see a dick in an edgy American cartoon than an uncensored female nipple.
>>is that... A DRAWING OF A CUTE GIRL??? wait, it was drawn by white people? thank goodness, I'm safe!
as Fleekazoid on youtube would say
"Big Budgets"
it was hand drawn so even if the script wasn't good it still had SOUL
It wasn't people only remember the top of the crop and even some of the good ones had severe QUALITY problems.
Sub or dub? I've heard the actual plot is trash and the dub saves it. I've also heard that the humor in the duh is cringy and racist by people calling others incels. So I've heard mixed reviews on the sub being good and the dub also being good.
I haven't seen either but your post made me laugh
Your post makes no sense to me whatsoever. it's like you don't even speak english
Yeah, I fricked up on the wording. I have no idea what the frick happened to me there. Anyways, I was asking if I should watch it subbed or dubbed since I've heard mixed reviews about both. Just want to know if the actual plot of the sub is good or if I should just watch the dub version.
I understood your post just fine, that's why I laughed.
Unless your post wasn't supposed to be funny, in which case I did not understand it.
The dub is funny if you were watching dubs from around that time period. It's very, very, very dated, and even back then you'd only get a laugh every episode or two. It was more the novelty of hearing these voice actors you've heard for years saying shit you'd never expect them to say, especially in a series that looked so run-of-the-mill at that point.
As far as actual writing goes, it's ok. Not really worth a watch in the current year. But they did drop some race/stereotype jokes in there, so maybe by 2023 standards it'll wrap around to being funny again.
A gotcha. I mean, I watched Cromartie High dubbed and enjoyed it. Although one of its strengths is being only 10mins per episode. I'm not going to binge it so I'm sure the dub will be alright for the novelty of it.
Not sure if I'm being played here, but the dub has nothing to do with the actual show. The sub is the actual story/plot, but the dub team decided the show was boring so they re-wrote everything to be an adult comedy using the original footage. They couldn't edit anything visually though, as it would de-sync the original JP audio and subs, so that's why a lot of the writing feels weird.
Regardless, the Dub and Sub are totally different things and not comparable in any way. The sub is a pretty generic 'kids investigate ghosts' story, and the dub is a 'here's Rebecca from Pani Poni saying moron'
I know they have different plots. I was making the comparison with Cromartie High because the dub's humor might seem dated but I really did enjoy it. So I'll probably enjoy the dub of Ghost Stories as well.
there's no particular reason to watch subbed unless you like children's anime
the dub is also for children but in a dumb humor way which I find pretty funny for the most part--it's dumb but it knows it's dumb and it gets progressively more ribald as it goes
like everything it dates itself but less than I remember
Watch the show, show watcher.
>racist
>Sub or dub? I've heard the actual plot is trash and the dub saves it. I've also heard that the humor in the duh is cringy and racist by people calling others incels. So I've heard mixed reviews on the sub being good and the dub also being good.
Dub, but you need to approach it not as an anime but more of an abridged series before the concept existed. There are funny parts but many long stretches of not funny pats in between.
Worth it for the history imo
the anime is mid but the ost is top tier
>庵野さん「TVは、時間なかったのは確か。25話が時間なくて、その25話を劇場版で作り直したんです。最終回の26話は元々あんな終わりなんです。」
It pandered to boys who wanted to be men, and not boys who wanted to be little girls.
>It pandered to boys who wanted BBC, and not boys who wanted to BBC.
okay? lol
meds
these threads are dope
I watched Ninja Scroll last week
It wasn't just anime. 80s and 90s just had actual style in all areas.
I don't know, I miss all the gore shit and breasts
tranime is too fake looking
irl will always be much better
it had sole
same reason you entry level reddit plebs think cinema was good in the 80s and 90s
you're seeing the curated list of entry level pleb shit
There's some truth to that but I think most people on Cinemaphile are comparing tentpoles to tentpoles. Blockbuster shit.
And common to both Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile stuff, if you're into craft even a tiny bit then it makes sense to fixate on the past. The difference between a practical stunt and cgi. The difference between color pallets or grading.
They are different. Different enough it's easy to understand liking one more or to the exclusion of another.
80s and 90s everyone was more wealthy, especially Japan. This created an environment with fostered great creativity and optimism with people much more willing to put soul and passion into their projects. It was basically the second coming of the Futurism movement. The time period feels a world away now.
God i hate '11s style. Or lack of. Actually i hate a lot about hh. Mainly the fans
how much of my brain should i chop off just so that i can understand a 2011gay's point of view
Watching 2011 first + Sunk cost fallacy
damn, what is the name of this? looks kino
Birdy The Mighty
thanks anon, i'll check it out
I want to ____ kurapika
Based on my limited knowledge, modern anime just seems to be low effort cash grab isekai shit, with the intention to be to get a few thousand otaku to buy the DvDs so they can see it again with slightly better animation quality and to see the main girls breasts. Then release a stream of figures of the main girl wearing less clothes each time until you can see her breasts in model form too.
Still is.
>is that... A DRAWING OF A CUTE GIRL??? AHHHHH I'M TROOOOONING HELP ME ADOLPH I'M HECKIN TROOOONING
Deedo is cute. CUTE!
Japanese culture for a while was dominated by hard-asses who grew up in the ruins of a country that had nukes dropped on it, and pulled themselves out of the shit. That's why Japanese culture from like 1960 to 2000 is sick as frick, and then it gradually trails off and gets really gay and effeminate as their overly pampered otaku children take over more and more positions.
or maybe the "hard-asses" could start paying the animators
its always cheaper to outsource it so that will never happen unless you are a major success which is not viable
I mean, they used to get their workers to be productive, by putting their heads through computer monitors, if they messed up. I don't think you can do that anymore.
And yet 95% of anime are 2D, Black person.
>5 seconds of CG
OMG CG IS DOMINATING EVERYTHING
Oops, meant to:
Because it wasn't (always) pandering to pedo manchildren virgins that can't pair bond or have sex. Instead of grown women in cool art styles you've got uguu toddler faced moron babies cooing for losers who have to target undeveloped minds in order to have a chance of not dying an embarrassing virginal failure.
>Because it wasn't (always) pandering to pedo manchildren virgins that can't pair bond or have sex. Instead of grown women in cool art styles you've got uguu toddler faced moron babies cooing for losers who have to target undeveloped minds in order to have a chance of not dying an embarrassing virginal failure.
wrong
More revenue streams, direct to video was actually a way to make money, cell animation. It was never sustainable long term really.
🙁
Anon is right.
Cel animation is now a lost art. There are only like 2 working cel animation machines left in the world. 1 is owned by Don Bluth in the US and the other is in Tokyo
>Don Bluth
This man is a legend. He could draw it all, hot human women, hot furry women, hot e-girls, hot furry e-girls, everything. The man's a creative genius, but his life's work is such a travesty. Despite being able to animate and draw expressive, beautiful women that blows away the vast sweeping majority of even the best of the best Japanese artists and animators, the poor man has been so starved of money to make anything, he's had all his best years squandered. Makes me wana cry.
A legend. I supported his and Goldmans kickstarter to make a Dragons Lair movie.
I've a few signed cels by them (Secret of Nimh, American Tail and Dragons Lair).
Netflix bought the rights for the DL movie and done frick all with it (thankfully as they were going to make it live action)
Not sure if and when "Bluth Fables" will be released.
Nice Don Bluth collectables, anon. Good on you for helping Don along with funding as well. I'm not expecting Don to finish any large projects, or any projects for that matter, but at the least he made a lot of tutorials to teach young and upcominig artists his techniques, so at least hope remains for the future
Did people just throw them away?
Bubble-era Japanese economy giving studios a lot of money to work with and OVAs being profitable leading to relatively unfiltered passion projects.
Now we're starting to see studios coming out with censored international versions made at the same time as the original. Darker times are ahead still.
i'm not the only one who thought those ceiling struts were some thick ropes spewing from a futa wiener, right?
Japan was rich back then and they were throwing money out the windows.
unlimited budget truly we peaked too soon
The weirdest thing about this, is that the backflipping dude looking surreal is kind of on point. He's a mechanical being with artificial skin moving in ways humans can't move and at speeds human can't move either. Him being a wacky surreal being kinda works.
But then all the other characters have the same wax-like skin and weird proportions and movements. Everything looks like a fever dream in the worst ways.
>He's a mechanical being with artificial skin moving in ways humans can't move and at speeds human can't move either.
Actually he isn't, his body is still mostly human but his brain is mechanical. One of the many reasons that series was moronic.
>Actually he isn't, his body is still mostly human but his brain is mechanical
Huh, thanks for clarifying that. Never forced myself to sit through it. Would rather just read the manga again than whatever new version of Motoko is being pumped out every 4 years.
Yeah they claim it was the AI who had taken over him was doing the complex calculations needed to dodge machine gun fire, I have no idea why they didn't just make him fully mechanical since him still having his human body wasn't even important to the story.
>Never forced myself to sit through it.
You are smarter then me. There is actually a few watchable episodes in the middle if you can get past the CG but the beginning is pointless filler and the ending is one of the most stupid and insulting endings I've ever seen, especially as they made it a sequel to SAC.
I didn't know her brapper was so big
It was bigger in the first SAC series. She was a lot thicker, in general. You never saw the gif where she gets out of the tachikoma?
can somebody explain to me why Cinemaphile threads are never removed and you morons give them 100s of replies? do you just get a hard on by having a thread from another board?
anime threads really only bother tourists to be quite honest
you didn't answer the question, actor/actress threads are removed for being "off topic" why does anime get special treatment when there is literally an anime board? if you make a thread about sopranos in Cinemaphile its removed instantly
because Cinemaphile and anime are kinda inseparable. Anime shouldn't be the focus of any board outside of the boards it's supposed to be on, but 2-3 threads here and there are nothing to get upset about. Like
said, it only really bothers people that haven't been here that long. Everyone else just accepts it and slides past them.
tranime website
>can anybody tell me why you are discussing Television & Film on the Television & Film board
I don't know, felt like a break from /misc/ posting I guess.
insane economic boom let actual creatives make stories and animators push the limits (+ cheap overseas labor)
Things went to shit in the commie block in the 90s and then went to shit in the US of A in the early 2000s. You could say the USA truly went to shit after 2014, but the beginning was back in 2001. So yeah, the 80s was the last totally based decade, and the 90s was the last USA based decade.
>USA was based, ever
mutt cope
Seethe turdie, seethe
>mutt cope
/misc/ and Cinemaphile are that way.
The US inspired japanime, so yeah. I'm the first one to condemn the nasty things US intelligence agencies and politicians do, but US made entertainment was something truly influential and inspiring before the 00's. Every fricking humans in the world with XY chromosomes love movies like Predator.
>character named Anice Farm
>Is not a nice farm
Extremely high budgets due to booming Japanese economy.
Mostly original stories and settings inspired by a golden age of western action and sci fi movies.
Creators hadn't grown up with anime it or video games to poison their sensibilities and taste.
Creators were creating movies and shows simply because they wanted to tell good stories.
Target audience was adults and nerdy teenagers, not manchildren and cringe teenagers.
Globalist perspective and settings, meaning embarrassing Japanese culture was always in the background or nonexistent.
Characters were always drawn to truly represent Europeans or other races, not just nips with blonde/red/brown hair. When characters were Asian they were drawn as Asian.
Action was always subdued and drawn to be more realistic with actual weight to it instead of trying to look "cool" with awful weightless 150 foot leaps and characters duelling with 30 foot long swords cutting through mountains and firing lasers which annihilate cities but don't even singe their enemy's hair.
Animators were trying to mimic design and other top quality animation studios, not other anime studios.
There's a lot more but that's mostly the important ones.
Finally, an excuse to talk about how great City Hunter is
>four of the five characters on the poster have the same face
The more things change...
Desperately needs a remaster. My DVD set of the uncut OVAs that I bought in 2000 is STILL the most recent release.
>What KINO anime series is a must watch? Just went on a 2 week vacation.
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
City Hunter
Cyber City Oedo 808
Economical bubble, japs could create top quality products just for domestic VHS market it's unimaginable for animation
>Want to rewatch an old anime I saw years ago
>Can't torrent cause don't have a vpn right now, I browse a couple ddl sites that meet most of my needs anyway except for this case
>Can only find one download
>It's some homosexuals fugly ESRGAN upscale that looks smeary as shit and that he threw fake digital noise over so the filesize is bloated for the h264 and h265 encodes
>Even still has rainbowing on lines because the idiot doesn't know what hes doing and probably just had some program one click solution
>All the replies to the thread are sucking his dick for doing such a great job and asking that he upscale other shit
I feel like I'm the only moron on the planet who thinks these fan upscales look like shit 99% of the time. I just want the base resolution. Even if you like this shit, in the future we'll be able to do better upscales in real time, making this preupscaled shit worthless.
get a seedbox in Singapore.
There are plenty of "2D" digital animes that use 3D models to animate environments and vehicles in particular that need to rotate or do something the animators are too lazy to figure out by hand. And it always looks obvious and distracting.
Japan was going through an incredibly economic boom at the time, shit was crazy.
i don't see any cgi
it's all cgi
looks hand drawn to me
New build of Yandere Simulator looking pretty good
CGI was a mistake.
wow this is the worst thing i've ever seen.
never mind this is the worst.
kek I'm so glad I stopped watching this shit after GT
the hand popped off like a magnet
I literally can't watch Super, it looks awful.
>always hated db because how shitty and lazy the animation was
>the animation is now worse than the original 30 year old animation.
amazin
Toei has fallen far
to be honest, the animation in the original isnt very good either. the art and directing are better, but the animation is still weird and weightless
what's really sad is even manga is cgi
grim
imagine having to look at CGI monstrosities everyday just to draw a panel
Wanna know a secret? There's been a program around since like 2009 called Doll Poser 3D or whatever, and pretty much every mangaka switched over to using it to pose all their characters, not just background ones. There's an image on Cinemaphile that gets posted every so often from I think the mangaka of prison school, where he shows how he uses the 3D doll model to trace his poses on to. And spoiler alert, art mannequins have been a thing for ages. Using AI is really no different, especially when it's just for posing, and not the entire piece. Smart, too. Because Mangaka get treated like shit and if they can streamline their process, then good for them. Maybe they'll stop working themselves to literal death.
wow my mind is blown
shhh dont ruin their fun
>I feel that this is an insult to life, itself.
there is literally nothing wrong with this. as the other guy said, people have been using reference for ages. interpreting the ai into an anime style still takes skill and effort, just like how using an art posing mannequin does all the posing work for you but you still have to interpret.
basically, lets see you use AI then be able to use your art skills to get the mustached guy's face on the right, wont happen cause you dont know anything about art lol
thank you ai. the quality of manga and anime has greatly improved.
you realize anime backgrounds have almost always been pictures of real places, right? does this picture send you into a conniption? if anything, ai allowed them to be even more creative with their backgrounds, experimenting with prompts until they get the place and composition that works for their shot
but why bother, you're just going to post another picture of an artist intelligently using ai as a basis for their art while not understanding the first thing about art lol
>you realize anime backgrounds have almost always been pictures of real places, right?
no way. i don't believe you.
tekkonkinkreet (2006)
bocchi the rock 2017
is this piece of shit for real the most popular anime of the moment? wtf
Yes, and local trannies will tell you that a digitized photo as the background was actually drawn by hands and you should feel bad for hating it. See
That movie had little boy penis haha
I had to drink so much water to fill it up like that lol
Me after shrinking and climbing inside Belle Delphine's bladder:
Ranma was the hottest girl in his own show.
All Rumiko girls are best girls
Based Ranma enjoyer
>troony propaganda
No thanks.
i know you're baiting but ranma literally hated being a girl lol, it was a curse
What would you do in this situation?
probably spend a hell of a lot of time looking in the mirror
same thing I do now: jerk off
Be really hot
Make trannies kill themselves because they will never become true women like I did.
This show was ahead of it's time with women malding over robots that can conceive
The same way some movies are shot on film still is there anime still made with classic processes? I miss this look of old anime that gives me warm and fuzzy feelings even though I haven't watched anime in years.
There will be no new Akira
There will be no new GitS / Innocence
There will be no new Redline
Enjoy it, it's happened and there are so many 2D anime you haven't seen yet, watch them all until the nips finally figure out how to make decent looking 3D animated shit.
Once they get it right, it'll be a new golden age. It may take a decade, but that's what you get with an insular, conservative society. It takes time.
In the meantime, it sucks.
It's been decades
3d animation in game cutscenes has been good since they started using them, it makes no sense why they look so utterly shite in animes
> it makes no sense why they look so utterly shite in animes
The same reason why Japanese developers are still unable to write decent netcode for multiplayer games, while some lone western autist on github figured it out 17 years ago (I'm referring to GGPO, btw): nips are really, really slow to adapt to change, that's it. They peaked in the 80s, now look at how many Japanese hi-tech gadgets you have around you. They still excel at some very niche, industrial things (optics and, oddly enough, automatic gearboxes for cars), but their 15 years of technological fame are behind them.
3d anime looks great right now
if you think this looks bad you are just wrong
Hey, that looked pretty cool. Look, they're getting there, but it takes time, and they're kind of cursed by their stifling 2D animation legacy.
Meanwhile, the current generation of French animators, who grew up with City Hunter, Sailor Moon, Cat's Eye and, of course, Dragon Ball... there's a whole trend trying to pay homage to their Japanese masters (looking at you, Balak and Jéméry Périn), who produced absolute kino that no one had heard of (Lastman, Peepoodo, Crisis Jung), while another pack started doing their own shit and delivered Arcane. Still very attached to the anime medium, while making their own genre-defining shit.
The same reason movies were better. Authors.
It's called SOVL
Isn't this pretty much Evangelion without all the pedo/emo shit?
nope, it stars teenage girls in crop tops with their boobies bouncing all over the place. get your T checked
I'm just asking a question, what does that have to do with getting my T checked?
because you called eva "pedo shit", this leads me to believe you have a problem with your test. asuka and rei are drawn to have breasts and figures, they are not children
Then Evangelion but shit
Good to know
Depends on how you define "pedo". By American standards it's pedo since it has under-18s with their breasts out.
It wasn't geared towards western morons. It was for Japanese nerds, by Japanese nerds.
tranime
go back Wrong board
Kei > Yuri
lasers
>star wars but japan
basedjack.jpg
yes
>nordicchadyes.jpg
I literally can't watch 80's anime without feeling sad
Anyone else know this feel?
Yes even though I'm a zoomer, just something about it.
no rules
Okay, so we've established that traditional cel animation is gone forever, dead and buried, never coming back
Why can't we just make digital animation that looks like cel animation?
>Why can't we just make digital animation that looks like cel animation?
They can. They just don't want to.
sauce?
Pop Team Epic Season 2 - Episode 9
thanks
why bother doing extra work when any braindead emotionally stunted manchild will gobble up any slop you put out
Old anime is complete slop for virgins, stop pretending otherwise. The stories are crass, vulgar and immature. They don't age alongside you. "Anime for adults" is a contradiction. A paradox.
Go back please