Why was Cyborg pushed so hard during the New 52 era? Why did he become a Justice League member?
Why was Cyborg pushed so hard during the New 52 era? Why did he become a Justice League member?
Why was Cyborg pushed so hard during the New 52 era? Why did he become a Justice League member?
They wanted a black member for the JL, so they chose Cyborg because Johns didn't want to replace Hal Jordan with John Stewart.
Isn't MM technically a black guy?
No, he's green, and his secret identity of John Jones was a white guy.
That didn't stop them from booting him from the New 52 League AND changing John Jones into a black guy anyway.
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they should've just had his civilian identity be black, nobody would've batted an eye, could've even had based carl back from voicing MM in the DCEU
another WB/DC/johns blunder
Didio hated the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans team and wanted to rebuild the Teen Titans from day one around Tim Drake.
Johns wanted a black man as a founding member of the Justice League to fill the diversity quota so his precious Hal Jordan wouldn't get replaced by John Stewart.
Cyborg was DC's most well known black character besides John Stewart, thanks to the wildly popular Teen Titans cartoon.
Cyborg was on the last incarnation of the Superfriends show in the late 80s.
Didio reaaaally hated the W/P Titans team.
Eh technically Cyborg as part of the JL was being done a bit before the Nu52 reboot in Robinsons JL run, so the Cyborg push predates Johns run by like a year
This is relevant how?
We're talking about why Cyborg was turned into a founding/core Justice League member in the Nu52, not the half a year Cyborg spent on the JLA in 2009.
I’m just saying that the pushing of Cyborg to be more prominent in the DCU was happening a while before Johns had the JL book. So it’s inaccurate to say Johns is the reason behind it when it was most likely an editorial decision
JLA wasn't a premiere/prominent book in the late 00s. It hadn't been since Brad Meltzer finished his run.
>Didio hated the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans team
Why?
He thought that they aged the primary Batman/Superman type characters.
It wasn't Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, or Beast Boy he had a problem with, it was Dick, Donna, and Wally.
>diversity quota so his precious Hal Jordan wouldn't get replaced by John Stewart.
I never understood that. Geoff was writing Hal while others author were writing John, I know Geoff prefer Hal but seeing how Dick got treated between Snyder events and Forever evil, it was the best thing to happen to John, his book already got enough crossover shit.
Geoff should have put Vixen or Black Lighting instead Cyborg but he was a fan of Cyborg
They wanted a black male hero so Vixen is nixed , and they’re cheap frickers who didn’t want to pay Black Lightning’s creators
They honest to fricking God could have just used Black Vulcan again it was what they did last time. If Tony complained and tried to sue they could just throw Static Shock in his face and muddy the waters.
All good points have been brought up, but on a less political level and on an individual basis, he's useful as an Iron Man powerset, specifically his control of machines and the like. It's helpful for storytelling, as you can have him hack the enemy robots while in combat and have him give exposition as he finds it by using his powers.
What I mean is that his individual specifics adds to the team.
Steel was the better choice for this.
True, but he's too Superman adjacent with his origin and look. Maybe if they retooled him to have a different design from Superman, that'd work.
This ended up being harmful to Cyborg in the long run. He became the JL boom tube chauffeur.
Plus all of Cyborg's closest friendships were written out of continuity. It caused negative character development. All they did was bring his dad back to life so he could repeat his 80s arc all over again.
He was just a glorified taxi.
They should have pushed more into his connections with apokolips and new genesis due to his mother box perhaps. Every time that has has happened (justice league odyssey, Young Justice show) I think it ended up being better for that version of the character.
Shit, should have gave him some more variety powers maybe. I mean with the name cyborg it seems like he should have something more going on with his biological side too as opposed to just tech, Silas Stone made O.T.A.C. right? could done some shit with those programmable cells.
He needed some villain's too, the ones cyborg did get were all frickin tech nerds. The fact they never used Jinx or Brother blood(that I can remember) is crazy
Really? The connection to Apokolips was the worst of the changes made to the character. Instead of getting his powers from his dad, he's getting them from a Darkseid attack. It's lame.
I guess I thought if they were going to go with this whole Cyborg on the justice league deal they might as well. well, Its more that cyborg doesn't have the individual mythos that's the other members have and I figured new god stuff was a decent thing to lead grab onto.
That's interesting. I looked at it and thought the exact opposite. He was originally a hero with an origin that could stand alone (lab accident victim saved by his brilliant butthole father) to a character whose origin and powers are all dependent on the New Gods.
the team needed a taxi
mandatory warnerbross
They needed a token black guy.
they wanted a black dude (why it had to be a dude is still weird) and there really aren't that many to choose from