>how dare Peter have more than two minutes of screentime, or wear the costume, or call himself Spider-Man, or want to save everyone without needing Miles to educate him on being Spider-Man, or want to have kids with MJ without needing Miles to inspire him
>Peter have more than two minutes of screentime
He did. >or wear the costume
It's under his robe. He's clearly here on a chill day and didn't expect any of this bullshit. >or call himself Spider-Man
Why? No one's challenging him on it and he doesn't need to introduce himself to anyone or the audience. >or want to save everyone without needing Miles to educate him on being Spider-Man,
He DOES want to save eveyone. Every single spider-man in spider society does. Along with them already seeing and knowing multiple worlds have been destroyed due to the breaking of these canon events, they've already actually lived through their tragedies by this point and know for a fact with the information they have, their experiences, and seeing the fate of other spider-people who shared similar experience that doing both is simply impossible. Miles hasn't been through or experienced all that yet so he hasn't accepted it yet. It's telling that Peter's words are the only ones that make him consider not running away and fighting this and it's lyla's chiming in that makes him run away again. >want to have kids with MJ without needing Miles to inspire him
This peter was at the end of his rope and exhausted after dealing with loss after loss after 22 years of bullshit. His time with Miles just opened him up again and Peter successfully helping guide the kid and helping him grow meant a lot to Peter at a low point in his life who felt he kept screwing things up. >or not endanger his daughter or not lie to MJ
He didn't endanger her. He was in a building full of spider-people and he can clearly handle his child. Not like he can just leave her at home since she can easily escape MJ. >or not act like a moron
He's using humor to try and diffuse the situation since he understands how Miles feels but knows firsthand that wanting to have both isn't going to work out.
My only gripe is him not standing up to Miguel or Jessica for Gwen. That actually pissed me off.
It's hilarious that you resonate so strongly with a narrative about promoting human sacrifice >He didn't endanger her.
Do soldiers bring their daughters to army barracks. You can write all the words in the world but it won't fix a broken story
>It's hilarious that you resonate so strongly with a narrative about promoting human sacrifice
You act like any of them these people to die and simply went 'hey human sacrifice is cool actually' and not just them having witnessed worlds and trillions of lives dying due to (to their knowledge) canon events being broken. There's only so far you can keep saying 'I want to save everyone' when it costs trillions of lives over and over again before you inevitably have to accept it you can't save everyone. Miles is a dumb, emotional kid and hasn't been through any of what they all have. All he got was a presentation which is vastly different from actually being there and watching countless lives die and slip between through your fingers multiple times. >Do soldiers bring their daughters to army barracks
It's not like there's anyone actively attacking Spider-Society and there's literally thousands of spider-people around who will die to keep mayday safe so it's not like he has any reason to worry. Not like he can leave her with MJ either so her being with him is the best option. I will give you that him taking her with him in the end of the movie moronic though since he is actually heading into what he knows is a potentially dangerous situation. But him just chilling at HQ with her isn't anything to get mad at.
I appreciate that you took the time, but unfortunately no matter how much you spell it out to them, morons like
>how dare Peter have more than two minutes of screentime, or wear the costume, or call himself Spider-Man, or want to save everyone without needing Miles to educate him on being Spider-Man, or want to have kids with MJ without needing Miles to inspire him
will continue to repeat themselves out of some weird victim complex.
>He did.
Oh okay two and a half minutes >It's under his robe. He's clearly here on a chill day and didn't expect any of this bullshit.
Yet everyone else is in full costume nonetheless and he's never shown wearing the mask >Why? No one's challenging him on it and he doesn't need to introduce himself to anyone or the audience.
Everyone else did >He DOES want to save eveyone.
No he doesn't, Miles is the only one, Peter literally tells him he'd let uncle Ben die, I wonder what he would've said if Miles used Mayday dying as the hypothetical >This peter was at the end of his rope and exhausted after dealing with loss after loss after 22 years of bullshit.
Out of character for Peter, he always wanted kids even at his lowest >He didn't endanger her. He was in a building full of spider-people and he can clearly handle his child. Not like he can just leave her at home since she can easily escape MJ.
MJ literally asks him if he brought Mayday to a fight *again* meaning he knowingly brought her to fights before, and he takes her to a literal fight at the end >He's using humor to try and diffuse the situation since he understands how Miles feels but knows firsthand that wanting to have both isn't going to work out.
He would've tried the same thing Miles did if he was written faithfully and in good faith, he knew Miles dad was going to die for almost a year and just though "oh well lol", he thought letting Miles hold Mayday would somehow make him okay with his dad dying and Peter not telling him about it
i hate how low ur standard is, that peter being happy is good enough because how bad the comic is, despite him still be the manchild incompetent loser as he's depicted in post omd era. Like i'm glad he has mayday, but he ran around being whipped by spider-woman and 2099, and being a b***h to miles
Miguel already got character assassinated big time. It almost seemed like a targeted effort to shit on him, probably because people vastly prefer him as the legacy Spider-Man. They pretty much did anything they could to make him look like shit.
>It almost seemed like a targeted effort to shit on him, probably because people vastly prefer him as the legacy Spider-Man.
It’s not like they’re mutually exclusive. Miles also being Spider-Man at one point the better part of a century ago doesn’t really step on the toes of 2099 where it’s all “Oh yeah, the heroic age, that was a thing that happened. Anyway.”
It isn’t mutually exclusive when the writers and directors admitted the “canon” concept was because they were but hurt that more people didn’t like Miles. Then it makes total sense.
If that was the case he wouldn’t have had multiple ongoings, use in video games, and now be a major character in a film and a teaser in the first one.
I love when people use that argument. It’s about as disingenuous as you get to defend your slop. >It’s ok to frick something up because we made it famous
How is snotslop better than literally anything before including meh 2015 ongoing? He is a moron that jobs to Gary stu! Why do you even engage in conversation about something you have no first clue about?
>Miguel >Assassinated
I dunno bro I thought he was cool. Every time the writers want me to dislike someone or make an imposing antagonist I always vastly prefer him over the main character.
It's like when they make the Roman Legions the enemy in movies and expect me to not root for them, it's impossible.
I don't mean that, I mean that they want me to root for miles to prove him wrong and maybe beat him in a fight or something when I don't want that at all.
Because if he had agency, he'd have completely changed the story, and potentially eclipsed Miles - again. When Peter Parker is a major and active character, he does more than just give a pep talk. He uses his head. He'd have been able to either catch Miles or get him to escape. And the Spider-Verse chase scene was complicated enough without Peter changing the setup - especially if this story had as many rewrites as we've heard
is probably also right, for a more cyncial reason.
Honestly, I'm just thankful they let him be happy and a father. That's more life progression than most Spider-Man stories allow him to have.
Literally because the sequel entirely hinged on almost every non-Miles Spider being either ineffectual or borderline sociopathic. Peter B wasn’t allowed to actually do anything worthwhile this time around, just come off as a doofus and putting his daughter in danger.
>he reached his endgame and got everything he could ever want. A 10/10 wife, a child, his mentee was changing the rules of everything for the greater good
PBP is at the end of his arc. He won bros
>Peter EVER talking about Uncle Ben's death as if it was a good thing and not an ever-painful reminder to not let down a single person if he has the power to help them
This is what really pissed me off about the movie. It's got a lot going for it, but that's just flat-out character assassination
But then the movie makes it a point of showing Peter alongside Miguel seeing 1st hand as an entire universe collapses because of Miguel fricking with the canon.
Don't get me started on the nonsense of canon events >A universe is unsalvageable if they happen, guys! >Indian Spider-Man's universe still exists btw
We all know they're setting Miguel up to be wrong and for the universes to be alright somehow. But if averting canon events AREN'T somehow a death knell for the universe, why don't the Spiders know that? Or know there's so much more they can possibly learn? The conflict stops making sense very quickly if you think about it
They literally show them using some sort of devise to try and contain the universe collapse and Miguel states it MIGHT work if they're lucky.
Were you speed watching or something?
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Anonymous
Were you? Or did you somehow sit through the entire drama of the rest of the movie and not ask "Why isn't anyone bringing up the other stuff?" Use your head.
So true anon. I can't believe they had him successfully repair his marriage and become the loving father. I've never seen character assassination this bad before.
>has a family >buys time for his protege in such a subtle way that it went over half of the morons who watched the movie >Miles end up proving he was a good mentor by the end of the movie
He did everything right
because he's more popular than miles, and the dorks in charge literally can't stand anyone but their super-special donut steel blackaroo electromagic spidergod being the best
He's main character of the first movie, the trilogy is about him. You can dislike him as a character and prefer Peter. You can think the story of the movie was weak but that like saying The Flash didn't need to be in the Flash movie, it's Miles' movie.
This trilogy didn't need to be about Miles, he brought nothing to the table. An anthology would've been kino but then again it was never about Spider-Man's mythos, but about uplifting Miles at the expense of everyone else.
Anthologies mean people who like the first movie aren't necessarily gonna have a desire to see the next one. For the last 10 years people have been rolling their eyes at Sony trying to to a Spider-man universe with Aunt May as a spy in the 60's, The Sinister Six, Black Cat, Silver Sable, Fricking Mobius. What do you think that is? It's an Anthology. The first movie was critically and commercially successful, with is rare for Sony. Of course the sequel is gonna feature Miles heavily. The problems you have with "Miles" are really problems with script or with Miles as a concept which usually boils down to not my Spider-man.
The first movie was a modest success and at the expense of exploiting animators, it would've made more sense to try again with a different protagonist/focus than it would have to double down on the same shit
>or with Miles as a concept which usually boils down to not my Spider-man
No they are more "why does this character exist"
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Anonymous
>tfw i see someone other than Aryan Peter Parker claim to be spider-man in a multiverse movie >tfw my anti-psychotics wear off >tfw i shit and piss and cum in rage >tfw they have to sedate me and put me in the straight jacket to keep me from committing untold amounts of hate crimes again
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cool projection but take your meds
11 months ago
Anonymous
Mm-hm. Now, how did you feel about the first movie starring Not Peter Parker?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Mayday and Peni Parker would've been better instead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the first movie didn't exploit animators
11 months ago
Anonymous
Read the article, Chris Miller is an imaginationlet who did the same thing on every animated movie he worked on
What do you even mean? He won. He got back with the love of his life, had a daughter, and even in the homosexual fanart they have him topping Miguel. Literally what more could you ask of him.
His arc was in the previous movie which was about him and miles. Notice Gwen had no character development in that movie. This movie was about Gwen and Miles, so Peter B was a side character.
>making Spider-Man the side character in a Spider-Man movie
Crazy, I don't think any other hero fandom would stand for that sort of cucking but Spider-Man fans have been broken down over the decades
>making Spider-Man the side character in a Spider-Man movie
Crazy, I don't think any other hero fandom would stand for that sort of cucking but Spider-Man fans have been broken down over the decades
by your homosexual logic, miguel and even peter's own daughter are cucking him as well
Why was EVERYTHING handled so poorly in the sequel? Even the fricking music is dog shit compared to the first one. It's like Sony said, 'just give them what they want, just go fricking nuts, it'll make money anyway. Throw every Spidey in there, recycle a few motifs, make Miles the king of Spider-People and sign off on it, easy money' and that was that. Sickening movie, honestly. You people who enjoyed it need to get higher standards.
Once a movie or series no one expected gets successful . Next installment will have vultures who take over to push agenda . It's so obvious this time . Nick fury and rhodey used to be cool and powerful characters. But now discussing about black oppression after decade miles was a normal kid with normal problems . Now his identity is getting pushed too much even with stickers and labels
because they want to kill him off but can't so instead ruin him and push miles as much as they can to desperately try and claim their Black personman is the real spiderman, and peter, Who's peter? you're crazy there's only ever been one spider man and that has always been miles goy.
Miles
>how dare Pete be happy?
>how dare Peter have more than two minutes of screentime, or wear the costume, or call himself Spider-Man, or want to save everyone without needing Miles to educate him on being Spider-Man, or want to have kids with MJ without needing Miles to inspire him
>or not endanger his daughter or not lie to MJ or not act like a moron
>Peter have more than two minutes of screentime
He did.
>or wear the costume
It's under his robe. He's clearly here on a chill day and didn't expect any of this bullshit.
>or call himself Spider-Man
Why? No one's challenging him on it and he doesn't need to introduce himself to anyone or the audience.
>or want to save everyone without needing Miles to educate him on being Spider-Man,
He DOES want to save eveyone. Every single spider-man in spider society does. Along with them already seeing and knowing multiple worlds have been destroyed due to the breaking of these canon events, they've already actually lived through their tragedies by this point and know for a fact with the information they have, their experiences, and seeing the fate of other spider-people who shared similar experience that doing both is simply impossible. Miles hasn't been through or experienced all that yet so he hasn't accepted it yet. It's telling that Peter's words are the only ones that make him consider not running away and fighting this and it's lyla's chiming in that makes him run away again.
>want to have kids with MJ without needing Miles to inspire him
This peter was at the end of his rope and exhausted after dealing with loss after loss after 22 years of bullshit. His time with Miles just opened him up again and Peter successfully helping guide the kid and helping him grow meant a lot to Peter at a low point in his life who felt he kept screwing things up.
>or not endanger his daughter or not lie to MJ
He didn't endanger her. He was in a building full of spider-people and he can clearly handle his child. Not like he can just leave her at home since she can easily escape MJ.
>or not act like a moron
He's using humor to try and diffuse the situation since he understands how Miles feels but knows firsthand that wanting to have both isn't going to work out.
My only gripe is him not standing up to Miguel or Jessica for Gwen. That actually pissed me off.
It's hilarious that you resonate so strongly with a narrative about promoting human sacrifice
>He didn't endanger her.
Do soldiers bring their daughters to army barracks. You can write all the words in the world but it won't fix a broken story
>It's hilarious that you resonate so strongly with a narrative about promoting human sacrifice
You act like any of them these people to die and simply went 'hey human sacrifice is cool actually' and not just them having witnessed worlds and trillions of lives dying due to (to their knowledge) canon events being broken. There's only so far you can keep saying 'I want to save everyone' when it costs trillions of lives over and over again before you inevitably have to accept it you can't save everyone. Miles is a dumb, emotional kid and hasn't been through any of what they all have. All he got was a presentation which is vastly different from actually being there and watching countless lives die and slip between through your fingers multiple times.
>Do soldiers bring their daughters to army barracks
It's not like there's anyone actively attacking Spider-Society and there's literally thousands of spider-people around who will die to keep mayday safe so it's not like he has any reason to worry. Not like he can leave her with MJ either so her being with him is the best option. I will give you that him taking her with him in the end of the movie moronic though since he is actually heading into what he knows is a potentially dangerous situation. But him just chilling at HQ with her isn't anything to get mad at.
I appreciate that you took the time, but unfortunately no matter how much you spell it out to them, morons like
will continue to repeat themselves out of some weird victim complex.
this.
there's no point arguing with these people
Ironic given you two are acting like the ones with victim complexes because someone criticized a movie's objectively bad portrayal of Peter Parker.
If it's so objective then no one would disagree.
>people don't ignore objective truths to uphold their biases
What magic world do you live in?
Cool . Tell me your Tumblr account to folloy
>He did.
Oh okay two and a half minutes
>It's under his robe. He's clearly here on a chill day and didn't expect any of this bullshit.
Yet everyone else is in full costume nonetheless and he's never shown wearing the mask
>Why? No one's challenging him on it and he doesn't need to introduce himself to anyone or the audience.
Everyone else did
>He DOES want to save eveyone.
No he doesn't, Miles is the only one, Peter literally tells him he'd let uncle Ben die, I wonder what he would've said if Miles used Mayday dying as the hypothetical
>This peter was at the end of his rope and exhausted after dealing with loss after loss after 22 years of bullshit.
Out of character for Peter, he always wanted kids even at his lowest
>He didn't endanger her. He was in a building full of spider-people and he can clearly handle his child. Not like he can just leave her at home since she can easily escape MJ.
MJ literally asks him if he brought Mayday to a fight *again* meaning he knowingly brought her to fights before, and he takes her to a literal fight at the end
>He's using humor to try and diffuse the situation since he understands how Miles feels but knows firsthand that wanting to have both isn't going to work out.
He would've tried the same thing Miles did if he was written faithfully and in good faith, he knew Miles dad was going to die for almost a year and just though "oh well lol", he thought letting Miles hold Mayday would somehow make him okay with his dad dying and Peter not telling him about it
i hate how low ur standard is, that peter being happy is good enough because how bad the comic is, despite him still be the manchild incompetent loser as he's depicted in post omd era. Like i'm glad he has mayday, but he ran around being whipped by spider-woman and 2099, and being a b***h to miles
People were too vocal in liking him more than Miles in the first one. He had to be made an example of. Expect the same thing to happen to Miguel
Miguel already got character assassinated big time. It almost seemed like a targeted effort to shit on him, probably because people vastly prefer him as the legacy Spider-Man. They pretty much did anything they could to make him look like shit.
>It almost seemed like a targeted effort to shit on him, probably because people vastly prefer him as the legacy Spider-Man.
It’s not like they’re mutually exclusive. Miles also being Spider-Man at one point the better part of a century ago doesn’t really step on the toes of 2099 where it’s all “Oh yeah, the heroic age, that was a thing that happened. Anyway.”
It isn’t mutually exclusive when the writers and directors admitted the “canon” concept was because they were but hurt that more people didn’t like Miles. Then it makes total sense.
Nobody knew who he was before this movie, moron
If that was the case he wouldn’t have had multiple ongoings, use in video games, and now be a major character in a film and a teaser in the first one.
I love when people use that argument. It’s about as disingenuous as you get to defend your slop.
>It’s ok to frick something up because we made it famous
>frick something up
They literally made him cooler and more engaging than he's ever been in any of his previous outings.
How is snotslop better than literally anything before including meh 2015 ongoing? He is a moron that jobs to Gary stu! Why do you even engage in conversation about something you have no first clue about?
You're an actual delusional moron if you think people knew who he was or he was popular before the first Spiderverse
>Miguel
>Assassinated
I dunno bro I thought he was cool. Every time the writers want me to dislike someone or make an imposing antagonist I always vastly prefer him over the main character.
It's like when they make the Roman Legions the enemy in movies and expect me to not root for them, it's impossible.
You're getting it wrong if you think the writers just want people to hate on Miguel.
I don't mean that, I mean that they want me to root for miles to prove him wrong and maybe beat him in a fight or something when I don't want that at all.
Because if he had agency, he'd have completely changed the story, and potentially eclipsed Miles - again. When Peter Parker is a major and active character, he does more than just give a pep talk. He uses his head. He'd have been able to either catch Miles or get him to escape. And the Spider-Verse chase scene was complicated enough without Peter changing the setup - especially if this story had as many rewrites as we've heard
is probably also right, for a more cyncial reason.
Honestly, I'm just thankful they let him be happy and a father. That's more life progression than most Spider-Man stories allow him to have.
Literally because the sequel entirely hinged on almost every non-Miles Spider being either ineffectual or borderline sociopathic. Peter B wasn’t allowed to actually do anything worthwhile this time around, just come off as a doofus and putting his daughter in danger.
Remember that Mayday is a part of the Spider Society.
Anyone else find it kind of weird how in your face Peter was getting with Miguel regarding his daughter. Like he knows Miguel lost his, twice, right?
>he reached his endgame and got everything he could ever want. A 10/10 wife, a child, his mentee was changing the rules of everything for the greater good
PBP is at the end of his arc. He won bros
Peter would be against letting people die. He'd be the first to go against Miguel
Uncle Ben B must have been abusive or some shit.
>Peter EVER talking about Uncle Ben's death as if it was a good thing and not an ever-painful reminder to not let down a single person if he has the power to help them
This is what really pissed me off about the movie. It's got a lot going for it, but that's just flat-out character assassination
But then the movie makes it a point of showing Peter alongside Miguel seeing 1st hand as an entire universe collapses because of Miguel fricking with the canon.
Don't get me started on the nonsense of canon events
>A universe is unsalvageable if they happen, guys!
>Indian Spider-Man's universe still exists btw
We all know they're setting Miguel up to be wrong and for the universes to be alright somehow. But if averting canon events AREN'T somehow a death knell for the universe, why don't the Spiders know that? Or know there's so much more they can possibly learn? The conflict stops making sense very quickly if you think about it
They literally show them using some sort of devise to try and contain the universe collapse and Miguel states it MIGHT work if they're lucky.
Were you speed watching or something?
Were you? Or did you somehow sit through the entire drama of the rest of the movie and not ask "Why isn't anyone bringing up the other stuff?" Use your head.
>mary prostitute makes peter unhappy
and water is wet
>and water is wet
And your mum's a freak in the sack.
Miles entire thing is to shit on Peter from every angle possible in a misguided attempt to prop him up as a newer and better version.
But that's not true tho.
Miles is just doing his own thang
White man LE BAD
I hope the Spot strangles Miles with his israeli hands.
Mary AKA the prostitute, made his life miserable as usual. Simple as that.
So true anon. I can't believe they had him successfully repair his marriage and become the loving father. I've never seen character assassination this bad before.
Some people just want to be angry no rhyme or reason being angry just make their dopamine receptors fire more frequently
There's people here who genuinly believe Peter should always be miserable and never too happy.
>is fine being in a death cult
>takes a 2 year old in a dangerous mission at the end
In the first one he was over-compensating because he was at his worse, now he's too relaxed because he's at his happiest. Peter B. Like that.
white people need to be torn down in order to build up non whites
To prop up the infinitely worse character of Miles.
>in the sequel
He has no other purpose but sucking Miles.
He's gonna have to pull Gwen off him.
>has a family
>buys time for his protege in such a subtle way that it went over half of the morons who watched the movie
>Miles end up proving he was a good mentor by the end of the movie
He did everything right
because he's more popular than miles, and the dorks in charge literally can't stand anyone but their super-special donut steel blackaroo electromagic spidergod being the best
ironic coming from the eternally buttmad petergay
Because he already has his arc handled in the first movie
The only correct answer in this thread
But even then it's wrong because of how contrived it was in the first
His arc ended in the first movie and they didn't what Miles to need to be mentored. He didn't need to be in the movie, It was just fanservice.
Miles didn't need to be in this movie
>Miles didn't need to be in this movie
He's main character of the first movie, the trilogy is about him. You can dislike him as a character and prefer Peter. You can think the story of the movie was weak but that like saying The Flash didn't need to be in the Flash movie, it's Miles' movie.
This trilogy didn't need to be about Miles, he brought nothing to the table. An anthology would've been kino but then again it was never about Spider-Man's mythos, but about uplifting Miles at the expense of everyone else.
Anthologies mean people who like the first movie aren't necessarily gonna have a desire to see the next one. For the last 10 years people have been rolling their eyes at Sony trying to to a Spider-man universe with Aunt May as a spy in the 60's, The Sinister Six, Black Cat, Silver Sable, Fricking Mobius. What do you think that is? It's an Anthology. The first movie was critically and commercially successful, with is rare for Sony. Of course the sequel is gonna feature Miles heavily. The problems you have with "Miles" are really problems with script or with Miles as a concept which usually boils down to not my Spider-man.
The first movie was a modest success and at the expense of exploiting animators, it would've made more sense to try again with a different protagonist/focus than it would have to double down on the same shit
>or with Miles as a concept which usually boils down to not my Spider-man
No they are more "why does this character exist"
>tfw i see someone other than Aryan Peter Parker claim to be spider-man in a multiverse movie
>tfw my anti-psychotics wear off
>tfw i shit and piss and cum in rage
>tfw they have to sedate me and put me in the straight jacket to keep me from committing untold amounts of hate crimes again
Cool projection but take your meds
Mm-hm. Now, how did you feel about the first movie starring Not Peter Parker?
Mayday and Peni Parker would've been better instead.
the first movie didn't exploit animators
Read the article, Chris Miller is an imaginationlet who did the same thing on every animated movie he worked on
What do you even mean? He won. He got back with the love of his life, had a daughter, and even in the homosexual fanart they have him topping Miguel. Literally what more could you ask of him.
His arc was in the previous movie which was about him and miles. Notice Gwen had no character development in that movie. This movie was about Gwen and Miles, so Peter B was a side character.
>making Spider-Man the side character in a Spider-Man movie
Crazy, I don't think any other hero fandom would stand for that sort of cucking but Spider-Man fans have been broken down over the decades
Miles is the main character in these Spider-Man movies
>some random homie is the main character in Spider-Man movies
Never before seen cuckery
by your homosexual logic, miguel and even peter's own daughter are cucking him as well
Well neither of those have movies but if they did I assume they'd be called "Spider-Man 2099" and "Spider-Girl" and not "Spider-Man"
can't overshadow Miles, the only Spider-Man in the multiverse who isn't willing to let people die.
Him trying to use Mayday as a tool to guilt trip Miles and get him to accept his dad’s death was kind of sleazy.
I like how Sony was parading mayday around only for everyone to go crazy about Miguel
Why was EVERYTHING handled so poorly in the sequel? Even the fricking music is dog shit compared to the first one. It's like Sony said, 'just give them what they want, just go fricking nuts, it'll make money anyway. Throw every Spidey in there, recycle a few motifs, make Miles the king of Spider-People and sign off on it, easy money' and that was that. Sickening movie, honestly. You people who enjoyed it need to get higher standards.
Once a movie or series no one expected gets successful . Next installment will have vultures who take over to push agenda . It's so obvious this time . Nick fury and rhodey used to be cool and powerful characters. But now discussing about black oppression after decade miles was a normal kid with normal problems . Now his identity is getting pushed too much even with stickers and labels
>king of Spider-People
miguel?
>make Miles the king of Spider-People
>make Miles
>Miles
>MILES
You okay, mate?
Strong white male role models aren't kosher
something something "boring straight white male in a cast of diverse spider-people"
Because he spoke perfect English, and was not seasoned enough.
>Nah, Ima do mah own thang
because they want to kill him off but can't so instead ruin him and push miles as much as they can to desperately try and claim their Black personman is the real spiderman, and peter, Who's peter? you're crazy there's only ever been one spider man and that has always been miles goy.
How does peter attract these insecure schizos? Like
Dude is happily married with a kid and just chilling, no suffering but is somehow ruining him?
I'm sure if you make more disingenuous strawman posts that ignore the actual issues, they will go away
what issues? that post was complaining about israelites
It only took this for Andrew to be Peter Parker.
I never noticed he was crying when he said "I'm Spider-Man", damn
I underrated Andrew Garfield’s performance when this came out, he was a good Spider-Man.
He was an amazing Spiderman.
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the whole sequel is handled poorly and you cannot even talk about it
Because across the universe is utter shit
>him being a happy father is seen as more emasculating than him being a depressed, overweight wash up
You people are genuinely mentally ill.
Having to deal with this garbage at home? of course he's depressed