Why was stop motion discarded forever? It was an amazing technique that gave a weird uncanny feeling everytime. No cgi can match it.
Why was stop motion discarded forever? It was an amazing technique that gave a weird uncanny feeling everytime.
Why was stop motion discarded forever? It was an amazing technique that gave a weird uncanny feeling everytime. No cgi can match it.
Because GOTTA GO FAST.
>Why was stop motion discarded forever?
It hasn't been. There are still plenty of stop motion films being made today that have garnered critical acclaim / financial success
This movie was so garbage. Lost the last little bit of respect I had for Guacamole Tortilla after this
Guatemala del Taco is a hack
>wait years
>get a few minutes of choppy clay dolls barely interacting with anything.
Laika and Aardman still make stop motion films, and even Netflix Animation has a stop motion house.
Spooky.
Still not sure how a irl dude fights a stop motion skeleton.
So much more impressive than cgi.
This post was made with stop motion.
I started this 2 months ago.
Ray Harryhausen was a fucking artist. The studio would tell him what they wanted and hand him the film, he'd tell them to shut the fuck up and leave him alone and then do all of this shit himself.
That’s fucking amazing. Anyone here have an abiding appreciation for Dragonslayer? It, in my opinion, was the pinnacle of stop-motion, a perfect marriage of old tech and new. For those not in the know, check this out:
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Fucking love Dragonslayer. Easily one of the better 80s fantasy kinos. The only fault I have with it is that I wish they had cast a better lead actor. Peter MacNicol is like a wet paper bag. At least the girl was good and cute.
It cracks me up how few people realize how much GRRM lifted from this movie. That may be a bit too harsh, but he was definitely inspired by it.
>A Song of Ice and Fire author George R. R. Martin once ranked it the fifth-best fantasy film of all time, and called Vermithrax "the best dragon ever put on film with the coolest dragon name". Vermithrax is mentioned as an Easter egg in a list of dragons' names in the fourth episode of that book series adaptation, Game of Thrones.
He probably wouldn't even be ashamed to admit it.
Were it not for the overt presence of Latin and Christianity, Dragonslayer could almost be a tale set in the past of Essos.
>The only fault I have with it is that I wish they had cast a better lead actor.
Yeah, guy looked like a 45 year old divorced dad with mortgage and prostate issues and is supposed to be a teenage apprentice or something.
pretty much they act out the scene like a dance choreography, Bruce Campbell goes over the process of how he did it for Army of Darkness in his autobiography.
no skelly-san don’t look at my pantsu
I took me 20 minutes to type this reply because after ever letter I had to stop an take a picture.
I wish I made a shorter reply.
Oh well,to late now.
Mad God came out less than a year ago.
The British company Aardman produces stop-motion and Tim Burton has some done stop-motion films. If you are asking about Harryhausen use of stop-motion then why would, beyond a gimmick, the quicker and easier CGI not be used in its place?
>Burton
Wes Anderson also
>British company Aardman produces stop-motion
You're sure?
Yes. That's clearly stop motion, though they are using blue screen for some backgrounds
I imagine with current tech it would have been much quicker and easier to make a quality stop motion film as opposed to the gruelling task of making the first Wallace & Gromit.
Kubo and the 2 Strings
Missing Link was terrific.
Kino. Literally everything a movie needs in 26 seconds.
I take it you mean stop-motion as a special effect in live-action, for stop-motion alone hasn't fully been discarded:
>Wallace and Gromit
>Shaun the Sheep
>Chicken Run
>Flushed Away
>Caroline
>various things with the Moomins
>The Nightmare Before Christmas
>Corpse Bride
>Frankenweenie
>Fantastic Mr. Fox
>Isle of Dogs
>The Boxtrolls
>Kubo and the Two Strings
>Early Man
>Missing Link
>del Toro's Pinocchio
>The Miracle Maker
As for stop-motion's use as a special effect in live-action, CGI is far more versatile and less time consuming.
it requires hard work and talent
It was discarded (not counting independent gimmick movies and vanity projects or cartoons) in October 1992 after Spaz Williams "leaked" cgi T.rex he'd been working on in secret in front of Kathleen Kennedy. IT was used because there was no alternative.
Other than suitmation which outlived stop motion and was even partially used in Jurassic Park probably a big blow to Harryhausen's ego.
MonkeyBone was Kino and I’m tired pretending it isn’t.
takes forever and what if you want to change something later?
>what if you want to change something later?
the mindset that literally killed cinema.
They stopped mixing live action actors with stop motion creatures because of how extremely limiting it is compared to CGI. If you have a shot where you have both an actor and a stop motion creature, then you can't have any camera movement. Matching the camera movement perfectly on set and and in studio is pretty much impossible because you have to shoot the actors and the models at different focal lengths due to the size difference between them.
but it pays off. it looks hella kino. like the ED209 scenes. or the terminator limping in the iron foundry. or beetlejuice. or the several "villain dissolves" scenes from the 80's. the very harryhausen. all iconic.
protip: memories are coded in the brain pretty similar to how a "jarring" stop motion is experienced.
It has it's charm, but I don't fault any filmmaker for wanting to be able to move the camera in action scenes, or wanting to have smoother animation which sits better with the live action footage
I remember watching T as a kid and thinking th Terminator exosekelton looked bloody awful. And the frame rate on the mobile ED209 was terrible. I can understand why the Terminator skellly had to be done for budget reasons but there would have been better practical ways to fix ED209's march.
soulless kid
Life sized animatronics and costumes > stop motion
Some of the best monster effects I've seen are in Where The Wild Things Are. They had actual costumes for the monsters, but used CGI only to animate their faces. It blends perfectly.
Good shit.
You know animation fansm especially stop motion animation, hate being reminded that suits can and do work and can look great.
For me, it's The Adventures of Mark Twain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntf5_ue2Lzw
Amazing scene, great film. Well worth watching.
>Just a tiny amount
The Primevals is coming out soon
Because the end point is you get results that look just like good CG but took way more time, money, and effort and everybody at a glance assumes it was CG and don't care it was stop motion.
this fucked up east european version of alice in wonderland has kino stop animation
All of Svankmajer's films have great stop motion animation. Faust and Little Otik are even better.
don juan is mega kino
This is kind of like asking why we stopped carving letters on stone tablets in favor writing on soulless paper.
Explain your comparison.
I'll explain it. Messages written in stone will stand the test of time while papercucks will have their media literally rot away once people are done with it. People will still marvel at Ray Harryhausen's artistry 100 years from now while CGIslop from 5 years ago is already being laughed at for looking like shit.
There are still a few stop-motion movies that come out like The Wolf House and Mad God. Actually now that it's not just being used as default special effects in normal movies, there's more of a focus on the artistry of it from small passion projects. Because of its uniqueness, I don't think it will ever go away. Even some random Filipino movie from last decade that I watched - Alipato - randomly had a sick stop-motion sequence in the middle.
But to answer your question on why it's not used outside of vanity projects, because it is legitimately one of the most time-consuming methods of film. It's not even that it's very expensive, films are made on a strict time schedule with a thousand moving parts. Unless the director is in love with stop motion, he's not going to have important special effects tied up for months.
Mad God sucked