>they know about the arachnid threat but take no measures in preparing their troops for the inevitable war
>they have a massive fleet stationed around Earth yet they couldn't destroy a single asteroid
>their main strategy at the Battle of Klendathu is just to zerg rush the surface of the bug homeworld
>they lose 300,000 soldiers in the Battle of Klendathu and complete none of the military objectives
>the rest of the war is shown to be a prolonged war of attrition that eats away at the publics morale
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Nobody who orders a farce war cares about casualties.
This. Bugs are fake (lab designed and grown and controlled by psychic spooks) or taken from their home planet and put in a position to mess up humans to keep the machine running and the population disposable.
You know how at the end they got new ships for the fleet? Yeah...
the same reasons rusia is so bad at war,having a huge army.
corruption,disloyalty,not having a righteous cause to fight for...
>missed the entire point that house was cleaned on staff and inventory so the sweet sweet procurement process can begin anew
ngmi
>fighting to save humanity against bloodthirsty bugs
>meh
its implied that the asteroid was sent by the goverment to eliminate disent and focus people on one retarted cause.
So just like real life? Neat. You did get your boosters and your electric car to fight climate change while not noticing the system slowly crumbling due to corruption and greed, right anon? R..right?
Lithium mining isn't bad for the environment because, uh, it just isn't, OKAY?
>its implied
Where exactly was it implied anon
a fascist goverment normally needs an external menace to justify the army budget.
it fits.
Nothing you just wrote proves that the federation sent the asteroid
yeah,you cant disprove it either because its a movie and not real
You’re allowed to have your own headcanon but it’s nothing more than that
So it's never implied like you said in your first post, moron.
Because bugs can’t throw asteroids moron
Russia currently controls less than 18% of Ukraine
bugs can’t throw asteroids moron
yet they can invade and colonize planets and shoot down starships in orbit?
Not with asteroids.
Yes, they can lay eggs on other planets and they have bugs that shoot plasma out if their asses
That’s a little different from magically directing a space rock
how do you think they get to other planets to lay eggs? how do they shoot space targets bvr
Why are ESLs and zoomers so fricking moronic? They have BRAIN BUGS and they colonize other planets. dumb fricks the whole lot of them.
What a midwit tier take holy shit I agone being this lowbrow oh my god
>figuring out astrophysics well enough to intelligently saturate even low planetary orbit with projectiles to reliably hit mobile starships is completely different from lobbing a much larger projectile at an incomparably larger target that is locked into a very predictable simple orbit around its star
>less than 18%
you mean over 17%!
Russia has plenty righteous reason to block Glomohomosexual in israelitekraine.
Chang is out in force today
Gas yourself, bug
Putin really is just like the bugs in ST. The bugs are forced into war by the evil humans who only want to profit from the war economy.
>forced into war
>attacked a sovereign nation
would it have been better if he had attacked a non-sovereign nation?
Why wouldn’t it be?
Do they really? Was a hundred thousand dead soldiers worth trying to "save" israelitekraine? I'm not even a globohomosexual homosexual, but it's clear this war was a mistake. Globohomosexual is only more powerful there and in the rest of Europe now
Putin himself said that for each russian soldier dead, there are 10 ukrainians
So..yes...has worth it
Oh if Putin said it then it’s definitely true
Kek, imagine believing Putin. Bet you gobble up Trump's diarrhea too
It's not just to save israelitekraine but the entire region from Globohomosexual aggressive expansion with their inverted ideology of child grooming and unborn baby sacrifice.
Russia is a poverty stricken, corrupt shithole that treats its people like insignificant bugs. They have no respect for their people or their rights, they take advantage of them and rob them blind worse than israelites. Your life would be significantly worse in Russia under Russians than in the west under globohomo, but you know that already otherwise you’d have moved their if you hate globohomosexual so much.
how did it get so fricked up anyway? didnt the soviet union have the second highest gdp after usa and russia has infinite natural resources too
Idk, maybe it had a high gdp, but its gdp per capita was like 1/5 the US. Russia was always corrupt and treated its people like slaves and forced them to live in squalor while the elite lived lavishly off of the peoples hard work, and that continues to this day. Russia is dominated by israelite billionaire oligarchs too, and their israelites are way worse than ours.
This lecture will tell you everything you need to know about why Russia is fricked up, and when they had the chance to un-frick themselves, got even more fricked up once again. It's all in the history and mindeset of the people.
>They have no respect for their people or their rights, they take advantage of them and rob them blind worse than israelites
That would be the private investment groups that fell like vultures on russian infrastructure after the fall of the iron curtain. Remember the Magnitsky Act?
western and primarily american private investment groups*
It would be really good if russia could fight and weren't just the moronic orcs amerifats say they are. Prepare to have your nation dismantled by the worst people in human history.
>Prepare to have your nation dismantled by the worst people in human history.
You say this as if West oligarchs aren't doing exactly that. You just turn a blind eye because you are evil.
I never knew my country didn't have an age limit on stripping or that little boys could do it to. What vote did I miss and which congressmen allowed this?
evil
You turn a blind eye to the prostitution of little girls and boys in the west but spend billions in weapons contracts and topple a democratic elected president to plant a israelite to have a war. Just accept you are an evil force in this world and Putin is in the right to protect his region.
The guy they planted lost a free and fair election to the israelite, get your facts right.
Ok let's agree to disagree.
>vid rel
stop pretending you give a frick about children
I can guarantee you that russia's political leadership alone rapes more underage boys and girls than all trannies in north america
Did that troony in the stripes motion for a kiss?
They still control 25% of Ukraine (a territory bigger than Great Britain) that is responsible for 60% of ukrainian GDP
But keep sending hohols billions of dollars and weapons. Maybe one day they will expell the bad ruskies....
>They still control 25% of Ukraine
that territory is a wasteland now.
you are fighting for something that has no value.
for the ukrainian it makes sense because its their home,but it means nothing to you except for muh buffer zone.
>for the ukrainian it makes sense because its their home
no it's not, it's the home of the donbass people, who are russian
whatever you say Ivan
Russia sure is doing a lot of winning for being so bad at war.
Who cares I say the only good bug is a dead bug!
Now compare this to every single war America has been in since WWII.
But enough about America.
I agree non Americans are basically bugs
lel rekt
they did not understand the bug
Getting a good strategist will always be a roll of the dice, and with a society that's so heavily into militarism you'll get into wars without one more often than not. So the likeliest scenario is always some madman sending thousands of troops to the meat grinder without a care.
>implying that the Zerg rush isn’t a good strategy
Fricking kids nowadays, I swear
Not when your enemy troops are stronger than you and outnumber you 5:1
Only when the troops are literally mindless, soulless bugs no one will miss.
You're supposed to tech to defilers
brb, doing Lost Temple skirmish ffa
>muh orange cloud
It's really annoying to pull off and completely fails against chargelots and especially reavers. There's a reason muta spam was a thing since fricking 1.0.
Mutas scale like shit. good luck beating protoss late game without Plague.
Mutas are supposed to prevent toss from surviving that long.
Nowadays toss just gets a dark archon and instagibs your mutas. It's literally over for zergbros, tesagi pusagi broken ape races
Only if you're bad at scouting. Overlords exist either to ferry drops, detect cloaked units or periodically die scouting. Although unlike with an enemy having Restoration parasites are an option, and you want Ensnare anyway.
>thinking the purpose of war is to win
thats the whole point point of the novel. the society functions due to perpetual conflict
depending the commander, the soldiers are just another resource like fuel to be expended.
saw this practice on both the eastern and western fronts, only former infantrymen really seemed to care (Monty) about not casually throwing away entire regiments to hold lost objectives
it's easily an realistic/believable portrayal
Black person look at nazi germany. everyone who fetishises “strength” is usually a cripple or weakling themselves. every ideology that revolves around might makes right ends up getting defeated by more powerful opponents
>nazi germany
Fought the whole world pretty effectively for years
Fought the UK (lmfao) and France (lmfao). With the help of other countries too like italy. As soon as russia got involved they folded
>As soon as USA got involved they folded
Fixed that for you.
war wouldve gone on forever if the soviets didnt just throw endless bodies at them
You don't realize that almost everything important except bodies was supplied by allies because funny moustache guy gulag'd and impoverished the totally not empire through incompetence, paranoia and possibly schizophrenia. Like fricking canned meat and alcohol, the famous "front line 100 grams". Or fricking grain. Studebakers were used for delivering supplies, moving troops, evacuating the wounded. Don't remember what le hekkin first MRLS eva was mounted on but wouldn't be surprised if it was Studebakers too.
Before allies, and thus primarily USA because Britain was fairly preoccupied, managed to get enough supplies through, muh ge-girlosu Led Almy was getting its shit pushed in pretty badly and they wasted completely insane number of lives just to hold onto their capital.
So unless parroting commie propaganda is vital for you, I recommend looking up all that yourself.
Oh, and almost forgot that all those supplies didn't just magically teleport into USSR via power of friendship. They were delivered the only way which was possible, by ships. Which were hunted by U-boats. Look up how many allied sailors gave their lives to save commies, and compare to the later "we wuz single-handed saviours of teh world" kind of gratitude their nations got.
Losing is losing
>"If you're not first you're last"
Fighting is fighting. Ever actually been in a real altercation?.
>Nazis are the most dangerous thing ever and they threaten the entire world to this day!
>But no not actually like that!!
>Fighting is fighting
Yeah, and there’s a winner and a loser. The Nazis were losers
>Ever actually been in a real altercation?
Yeah I’ve been in plenty
>the nazis were the losers
That's what everyone thought back then but today we all can safely say the losers is the west.
You don’t need to be good at war if you can just keep throwing bodies at the problem.
It's making fun of American militarism, the asteroid hit is just 9/11 years before it actually happened
Yeah, it was a satire of american jingoism, and predicted Bush era america to a T. Bonus point for doing this using the work of an americans miltaristic author
America is the same way and we lost in Iraq and Vietnam. A lot of if it is
>overcconfidence
>generals fighting the last war
Today I will remind them
>”In 1995 Vietnam released its official estimate of the number of people killed during the Vietnam War: some 1,100,000 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. US troop fatal causality estimates are around 58,000”
dang Vietnam really showed us…
>war is a match of CoD where only K:D matters
So then why post about helicopter loses if it doesn’t matter?
Yeah?
Because, for all of their skill at putting ideas into words, writers are generally completely ignorant about literally everything.
Who cares, if we lived in type of society i would have seen booba already. Way better than what my life is now
You're so close to understanding the satire. The war was just a way for the military leadership to get rid of a bunch of eaters. That way they can justify more money and power for themselves back home.
Even the fricking guy who ordered the invasion got to resign and live a life of luxury after getting half a million soldiers butchered.
Nah, they were mind controlled.
See: Starship Troopers 3
In the miniature game that mixed the films and the CGI spin off cartoon it pretty much says that they completely underestimated the arachnids seeing them as mindless insects and they did have powered armoured troopers but they where expensive and hard to train compared to the film troopers which until klendathu where seemingly working well enough until big k happened and all the bugs came out of hiding on the seemingly passified planets. Afterwards the federation tried to get rid of the light armour troopers but ironically they had trained far to many of them so they where stuck with them.
This is the campaign book which I think /tg/ has in the pdf archive.
>they have a massive fleet stationed around Earth yet they couldn't destroy a single asteroid
You were this close to getting it
It was a false flag.
proof?
the commercial in the beginning is a flash forward.
Because it would been easier to wage war against humans on Earth. The bugs are superior in every conceivable way to humans for waging war. Not are they better equipped from birth for war but they have the numbers too and can move incredibly fast on their own without the need for armored cars. If they truly wanted to wage war against humanity their best bet was to do it on Earth yet that's not what happens. Why send an asteroid? They could have nuked us from orbit. When humanity reaches their home planet they were not expecting us. It was a false flag.
>When humanity reaches their home planet they were not expecting us.
it was an ambush on us not on them.
>Because it would been easier to wage war against humans on Earth.
>Why send an asteroid? They could have nuked us from orbit.
Who says they wanted a war? They could have been trying to tell us "Stop colonizing our space you fricks. Just because we are bugs does not mean we can't negotiate." We thought they couldn't think at all!
Think the Silicoid from MOO2
>Think the Silicoid from MOO2
frick me, how often are MOO threads on /vst/?
Whatever. It would still have been easier for the bugs to wage war on us on Earth. Strategically a win-win and that's without accounting this notion that the bugs wanted to conquer Earth. If they wanted to conquer Earth to lay their eggs or whatever it would still make more sense to come here to exterminate us and get Earth for themselves. Humans would be hard pressed to start nuking Earth left and right in hopes to stop the bugs invaders but they would have no qualm of doing so on foreign planets unless of course Earth leaders wanted to conquer the bugs planet and as we know humans were doing some crazy research on bugs that allowed them to regrow limbs. The limb regrow technology was never mentioned to be the byproduct of researching bugs?
>It would still have been easier for the bugs to wage war on us on Earth
Who says the bugs wanted to conquer Earth? Why would it be easier? Do the bugs know our weapons technology and resources? Do they want to sacrifice swarm after swarm?
>Whatever
you are a moronic child. go to Reddit, I don't think you have to 18+ to be there, but here you do.
>Who says the bugs wanted to conquer Earth?
Some people in this thread say they wanted Earth to lay eggs.
>Why would it be easier?
The bugs bodies are better geared for war compared to ours. They are stronger, faster and have way more bugs that we have people. All bugs are at the same skill high skill for war unlike us who only have a little portion of our population trained to fight. We have nukes but we would be hard pressed to use nukes on our own planet.
>Do the bugs know our weapons technology and resources?
It doesn't matter for the reasons already laid out.
>Do they want to sacrifice swarm after swarm?
If they wanted to conquer Earth I guess so but if they bring the war to us it is us who would be sacrificing our population in order to stop the bugs.
>you are a moronic child.
Prove it
>go to Reddit
You go there.
>I don't think you have to 18+ to be there, but here you do.
ESL, please go back.
>The bugs bodies are better geared for war compared to ours.
We have tanks and anti-aircraft. We can now even blow their asteroids out of space.
>It doesn't matter for the reasons already laid out.
Yes it does, they are smart and can make allies instead of wasting resources. They can calculate shit like not wanting to waste resource
>Prove it
This is evidence
>ESL
Stop projecting
You still have no evidence it was a false flag.
>We have tanks
Useless against bugs. Bugs move too fast and unpredictably compared to tanks. They will just flip over your tank before you know what happened. Once the tank is on it's head all the soldiers in it are effectively out of the war.
>and anti-aircraft.
How are you going to deploy anti-air all over a city once the invasion starts? Our radars can even pick up bugs on air or land?
>We can now even blow their asteroids out of space.
Show me where the bugs use asteroids against Earth.
>This is evidence
Where?
>Stop projecting
t.projector
>You still have no evidence it was a false flag.
debunked
>debunked
Are you agreeing that is was not a false flag?
>Useless against bugs. Bugs move too fast and unpredictably compared to tanks. They will just flip over your tank before you know what happened. Once the tank is on it's head all the soldiers in it are effectively out of the war.
I meant to say Powered armor that has jump jets.
>How are you going to deploy anti-air all over a city once the invasion starts?
Prevent the invasion from starting by shooting the bugs and asteroids out of space
>Our radars can even pick up bugs on air or land?
If you are going to accuse someone of being an ESL you should take note of your grammar and we can detect aircraft in space right now as well as in the movie. I think in the cartoon we can detect land bugs.
>>We can now even blow their asteroids out of space.
>Show me where the bugs use asteroids against Earth.
In the movie, moron. You have no evidence it was a false flag and I have proven you wrong at every turn
>t.projector
How about this kid, post you hand and your passport.
HOLD HERE, HOLD WHAT YOU'VE GOT
War produces political results when it ends. If your desired political result, however, is war itself, then your strategy by definition is to remain at war. Furthermore, if this strategy becomes the existential thread that keeps your society together, then, like the boy who cried wolf, if you engage in a war which you want to see resolved, then you are trapped in a catch 22.
The more you expand, the more you need to engage in warfare, to quell rebellions and diminish territories left for other potential imperialists. That's how strong military classes were formed historically and that is why they turned against their own populations, internally,when they lost their colonies.
yeah ebert pointed out how it was obvious from the start grenades are way more effective than bullets and they should have noticed that right away
>Why Was Such a Heavily Militarized Society So Bad at Fighting Wars
idk, ask america