Why was this movie so hated and considered the "downfall" of 2D Disney? I thought it was a cute movie and was one of my favorites growing up..
Why was this movie so hated and considered the "downfall" of 2D Disney?
Why was this movie so hated and considered the "downfall" of 2D Disney? I thought it was a cute movie and was one of my favorites growing up..
It could have been the greatest movie ever and 2D animation would still be considered outdated.
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It came out at a time when 2D was being sabotaged and CGI was being pushed
>100 million dollar budget
>Massive advertising campaign
>Hired celebrity voice who would take the job
Think the issue is it frickin’ bombed mate
>100 million dollar budget
This had to be the result of money laundering. Literally what the frick were they even doing there, that shit is twice as expensive as Brother Bear and that came out a year before.
>Literally what the frick were they even doing there, He told you, hiring every celebrity voice actor who'd take the paycheck.
yes intentionally
don't listen to what incel loreshit cartoon reviewers say, form your own opinion.
This, these stupid reviewers are the reason why modern media is so obsessed with subverting expectations and other bad shit.
The movie was considered bad years before "loreshit cartoon reviewers" were a thing, moron
I bet you were nostalgia critic fans that acted like talibans every time anyone disagreed with his moronic reviews. All online movie reviewers suck and all their fans are cáncer.
Zoom zoom
Cause some popular people said it was
How good is it compared to Emperor's New Groove?
ENG is the best straight comedy Disney ever made and this is nowhere close. It's not bad it's just kinda middling.
Regardless if it is our not, it's really bad and didn't help the public image of non-Pixar Disney animated films.
Actually explain why it was bad foggots
a YouTuber told me it was bad
Plot and storywise it's serviceable but fairly dull and the songs outside the villain number are completely lackluster. The villain number itself, while catchy, lacks the power and memorability of other villain songs and its lyrics undermine its musical purpose.
its uninspired
the 3 characters don't have different aims so there's not really a lot of point there being 3 of them. compare to something like ice age where all of them have different motivations.
Cows did it.
that'll be 20 dollars.
Because it was fricking shit that didn't deserve a theatrical release and you're a zoomer with bad taste
cringe
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Shut up zoomer
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It's shit. Also 2D animation shouldn't be used for anything remotely serious (disregarding capeshit and weebshit).
>Also 2D animation shouldn't be used for anything remotely serious
Explain anime's popularity then.
>"HURRR DURRR SHOCK VALUE ANIMU IS LE HECKIN ARRRRT!"
Opinion discarded
>Also 2D animation shouldn't be used for anything remotely serious (disregarding capeshit and weebshit).
Why? Also both 'weebshit" and "capeshit" have made movies that put everything in the industry to shame.
>Also 2D animation shouldn't be used for anything remotely serious
Hey look, a moron.
>Why was this movie so hated
wait. it was hated?
anglocucks explain yourselves
From left to right: Kill, Frick, Marry
Same. Calloway is cute but I like Jennifer Tilly's voice too much
real
All you need to know about the people who like this shit movie
so what do I need to know?
I never said I liked the movie I just said two of the cows were cute.
It's ok, but people who grew up with the films from the disney renaissance would have high standards from the company
I haven't watched it since I were a dumb kid on cinema but I remember liking it.
To be fair, the three female lead choice plus the whole yeehaw cowboy aesthetic are not exactly crowdpleasers. If 2D was gonna be saved, it'd need the big guns, but the big guns like treasure planet crashed and burned too so whatevs.
Well that's just the thing, though. Home on the Range is just a cute movie. By that point, CG had proven to be the cool new thing and audiences expected bigger events when it came to theatrical animated features. A charming little 2D western felt a little too 'old school' by that point. I do still love the movie, don't get me wrong.
That blonde cow is getting it.
Pffthaha surely you mean that as a joke, right? There's no WAY you're attracted to this heifer hahaha
Do I need to repeat myself?
The omission of the udders in this movie is just absurd. You'd think that would be the most fun part of the movie to animate and see animated.
It wasn't an interesting premise. It could have only been decent enough at best. But it was just forgettable. I only remember that the villain hypnotized cows by singing. No other scene stayed in my brain.
If nothing else, I love how stylized this movie looks. I can't imagine a CG feature by Disney ever taking as many liberties with its designs. The studio's movies have become too homogenized.
sounds like what has happened today
It's fricking boring. Also shitty cgi and lame jokes.
>It's fricking boring
no it isnt
It's a fun movie that came out at the wrong place and the wrong time.
I'll gladly it watch it over Shrek 2, for sure.
nah Shrek 2 is better
Nah Shrek 2 is much worse and an overrated, boring and unfunny garbage.
Mmhmm, but enough about you
bump
I don't consider any movie the downfall of Disney. That honor goes to Iger and Jennifer Lee. When it comes to companies the thing that will kill them is terrible employees.
Individually this Home on the Range movie, well it's bad because for starters it's a western. Those have seriously gone out of date. Not even Rango which is a GOOD one was too successful. Needless to say a very lazy infantile trashy film like this? Not engaging. And the problem is that no matter how you slice it even if you use a modern setting. No one is going to care about a movie starring three old women going on some adventure. Think the only time this rough concept has ever worked is Disney's Sleeping Beauty and that movie is heavily carried by Maleficent being the main villain. Because I never really see people giving a damn about the other main characters like the Good Faeries and the worthless plot device prince who needed three old women to fight his battles. And the less said about Aurora the better.
Enough said it's a bad premise for any story. It's simply not what anyone would ever want to see.
good post
>jennifer lee schizo
Nobody gives a shit
>Why would Disney make a western in current year-20?
Because they wanted to make a Frontierland movie that could re-energize that area in the parks, same as Lone Ranger years later. Why do you think both of those flops ended on wild train chases?
This is also why they were moving beyond fairy tales in general around the turn of the Millennium. The Disney animators got Fantasyland Movie Fatigue and wanted to do some Adventureland and Tomorrowland movies.
Reminder that Alameda Slim was originally going to be a spooky skeleton man in what was going to be more of a "Ghost Riders in the Sky" storyline.
Original title was Sweatin' Bullets. It started its transformation into talking cow movie when the execs wanted the protagonist to shift from a human to a cowardly little calf that has to save his herd from the undead rustlers that wanted to kill off the various rancher herds as vengeance for having died in tramplings. Eventually they dropped the whole ghost angle and that's how we got the hypno yodeler.
HEEEEROES AND VIIIILLAINSSS
That actually sounds pretty great, even with the execs' demand. A bit repetetive perhaps, since Disney had several animal transformation movies already, but interesting never the less.
They replaced the human with a cow, no transformation kink.
>we could have got coco before coco
It's nowhere near as bad as Chicken Little but people tend to try and fit the narrative to make history neatly line up. It was Disney's last 2D movie and it failed at the box office so it must be terrible. In reality it's just average
Yeah, it's very much the "2D Disney going out with a whimper" factor that hurt it. If they hadn't switched release dates with Brother Bear, it wouldn't have gotten quite as much hate and Brother Bear, even with its own problems, would have been a slightly more dignified way to go out.
Enough with this "Chicken Little sucks" bullshit. I just rewatched it earlier this week and was confused as to how it built up such a big hatedom over the years. 'Cause the dad doesn't respect his son? He was still reeling from his late wife's passing and felt he only had his high school years to cling to. Buck is an interesting character who went through a beautiful arc, and C. Little himself is a great protagonist. Some jokes might be a little cringey and some reused dog background character assets show the film's age, but those are minor things. Chicken Little is a solid 7/10 and I'm tired of it being treated as Disney's scapegoat.
>It was Disney's last 2D movie and it failed at the box office so it must be terrible
That would be Winnie the Pooh, even though we know the real "Last 2D movie" was their hail mary princess film that couldn't even make as much as chicken little and who's merch died on the shelves.
They did not look at a 30 million dollar barely advertised film released the exact same day as the final Harry Potter movie and say "Yep this is the one who broke us it's a sign", they just didn't want to blame it on the first black princess event though we all knew it was the black princess failing and Tangled making serious bank.
End of the original streak versus "Failed attempt at a revival that was snuffed out the second Roy Disney died and Bob Iger didn't have to pretend to care about 2D anymore"
Can't wait for the live action remake
Please no
They’ll make the cows less sexy in the process
Remember as a kid being completely uninterested in going to see that at the theater. Farm animals are baby tier and 3 women together was no different than everyone's moms hanging out.
That said we all definitely watched Charlotte's web because that has a spider and everyone knows spiders are bad ass
give us back ones animation, without cgi, please.
The only hope for 2d animation is through independent studios and Japan. good luck trying to get normie parents to watch 2d animation again
even doe independent studios are animating on twos and using cgi
*cough* hullabaloo *cough* lackadaisy *cough*
Hullabaloo's just doing what Atlantis and Treasure Planet were already doing on a lower budget.
Wrong board
You know it to be true. Whatever... enjoy your cgi shlock, mousecuck
just go wank to your anime figures or whatever, japgay.
eh, no thanks.
ywnbj
2D animation will become the new fad once they figure out how to reliably apply AI to it. zit's not making a comeback without the computers though.
Bro I LOVE cows, they are my fav animal ever. and even I dodnt enjoyed it as much as I thought.
It just boring movie with great designs and with 1 good song.
That's torture. What sane person would ever put themselves through all that?
Someone who ultimately couldn't finish his movie after a quarter century of work.
he got 90% of the movie done during the 4 years that warner was supervising production.
it took him so long because he had no money. and he kept getting commissioned to do other works.
It was a long-running joke among his staff that he was never going to finish the movie. The storyboards, some of which appear in the Recobbled cut as animatics, were made at the last minute when it became clear the film was going to be taken away from him. He never made a storyboard for the film in over 20 years. Let that sink in.
frick you mousegay warner was never gonna let him finish because if tack and thief became household names, people would demand disney put more effort into their movies.
the WDAS team did not do roger rabbit bc they were too lazy to animate on ones, so they gave it to Richard Williams studio.
lol, I like T&C better than you do. If you genuinely liked the film you'd do some actual research instead of just using it as a prop to posture with.
Richard Williams is the finest example of why animators require tard wranglers.
It's essentially where I think Disney/Pixar is at now- it's a style that's been done and has no novel mass appeal hook. The hate it got at the time was overblown but at the same time just didn't offer any reasons to watch it.
>The one on the right
That's a cute cow...
>3 cow moms movie flopped
>Arizona's game was never finished
Brovines... Ungulads... Is it not unfair? Is it a curse?
i remember liking this movie considerably as a kid but i havent watched ever since.
Why do americans hate everything i like? first atlantis and treasure planet, now this.
Once again, I wish Disney still allowed their films to experiment and have more unique art styles instead of making them all look like they could be "in the same universe." I like a little variety when it comes to animation.
actual gays hate Atlantis
I like it but it has issues.
Too much content for the run time, as a result it has a lot of cool shit but none of it gets explored in-depth. Too many characters, too much ground to cover, too much lore to dump... And as a result everything is just a scratch on the surface.
You see the cool sub, oh it's gone, these caves are full of danger and mystery, is the convoy equipped for it, oh, a fire and it's done, quick dump of the atlantean lore aaand instant flip of the action finale switch! Everyone's evil now! And now they are good again. It's very Mike Mignola actually.
Imo it really should've been a series or at least a 3-part TV special. They are trying to adapt 3 books into one story after all.
One part for the 20,000 leagues under the sea bit where try to find the entrance, get to know each other, show off the toys they are selling by overcoming atlantean clues and defenses up until the leviathan wrecks their shit. The loss of the craft would have some impact then and you might actually care if everyone you know is going to make it.
Second part could be fully dedicated to the Journey to the Center of the Earth bit, with time for the more in-depth dive into everyone around Milo and laying of the ground work for the shady motives and questionable methods of the group.
And 3rd part would be the Lost City of Atlantis of course. Just add some proper meat on the bones before shit hits the fan. Make it hit proper ghibli movie moments of peace, magic, wonder and awe.
...But then they wouldn't have got the feature movie budget and you'd lose all the gorgeous high budget disney animation and art. So there really is no winning.
OUGH
>Teacher's Pet
>Clifford's Really Big Movie
>Home on the Range
>Shrek 2 (academy nominated)
>Shark Tale (academy nominated)
>The Incredibles (academy winner)
>The Polar Express
>The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
Theatrical Cinemaphile films released on 2004, in that order. There were four 2D films and four CG films.
The beginning of the end
I loved it as a kid but haven't seen it since then. Is it worth revisiting?
No
Why would you make a normal Frog Prince movie when the definitive adaptation already exists?
>growing up..
That's the problem. You have a bias for a forgotten film because it was of the first films you watched growing up.
Stop making these threads cowgay
*cowchad
idk, did saberspark did a video about it? i need to watch that first before forming an opinion regard this movie or else i won't fit in with my Cinemaphile furry gay pals
The sexy cows are girls. It's sfur.
No one posted the villain's song yet? Really?
I have to take the long way to Youtube myself?
Time for a ride, cowboy.
Another movie that turned out completely differently than the concept
I used to love this movie as well, it always weird me out to listen stuff like "this movie is why disney dosen't do 2d anymore"