Why was this the show they aired in America first? What was the reasoning behind it?

Why was this the show they aired in America first? What was the reasoning behind it?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It'd remind them of chicken wings

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >X under performed
    >Turn A was still airing
    >SEED didn't exist yet
    >G was too different from other entries, not a great idea for a first impression
    >08th MS Team, 0083, and 0080 were not kid friendly and has short episode lengths
    >F91 was a movie
    >Victory was too dark and to this day is the only Gundam entry to mention menstruation, definitely would have triggered pearl clutchers
    >everything else was too old
    >also Sailor Moon style protags but they're boys

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      All audience angle, with the heavy pretty boy presence in marketing combined with mecha.

      Also this is true as well, there really wasn't a better gamble at the time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Wing was also very flashy and toyetic, it was perfect for promoting kits sales

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Wing was the perfect gateway Gundam series.

      >Identifiable group of protagonists with easily marketable robots
      >Plot made no sense but would convince kids that they were cool and mature for watching it as they see the robots beat up hordes of mooks
      >Came at the exact right time as anime was starting to become mainstream in the West

      It's not rocket science. G Gundam would've been good since it would've appealed to the Dragon Ball crowd, but like
      said, it was too different from everything else in the franchise.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I will never accept that shitty new logo they're trying to push.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's "new" about this

      Nice job on another shitty thread OP

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you moronic?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the logo in OP's image
        that's the new logo.
        look at what he posted and look on the vhs box attached
        That's the old logo.

        He hates the New logo and I honestly agree with him.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          HMMMM WONDER WHAT IT'S BASED ON

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            HMMMMM

            The problem is that the designer of the new logo tried too hard to make it look like the Japanese logo, when that one probably just used some common typeface. If they wanted something accurate, they could've done something like this.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This one looks good as well, no tackyness of blockyness.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            HMMMMM

            [...]
            The problem is that the designer of the new logo tried too hard to make it look like the Japanese logo, when that one probably just used some common typeface. If they wanted something accurate, they could've done something like this.

            Instead, they made something that feels like this.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ah so you're blind.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's totally what it looks like.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Really doesn't though.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You must be blind then.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just saying compare OP's pic directly to yours, it even has an A in it for you to make a direct comparison.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          HMMMMM

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The metal grey behind the words make it look tacky. The "new one" that is faithful to the JPN original looks much better, the font is less blocky and as a whole it looks far less stiff, which fits Wing's slightly shoujo aesthetic better.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My guess is that it was because Wing is a demographic goldmine. Five flashy super robots mowing down grunts for the young males (and 5 main robots means they will all sell well). Edgy main pilot who will blow up his Gundam for the sake of the mission, a constantly evolving political situation and lots of ideological exposition for the older males who need to justify why the are watching cartoons to their friends. The world revolves around Relena which gives the show a shoujo esq appeal and pulls in girls, and there are five pretty boys for the girls to either have crushes on or ship with each other.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Perfect summation.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They showed 0079 before it, but it tanked in ratings so it wasn't rerun, except o. Special occasions and later, on adult swim

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The first Gundam movies got a video release first ( with that infamous dub with British Bright), same with VHS subs of 0083 and 0080 from what I recall (unless the tapes I rented fansubs, could be given where I rented them from) but Wing was the first broadcasted on NA TV. They very quickly put First Gundam TV, G Gundam, 08th MS Team, 0080, 0083 and CCA on air afterwards.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ...I think Seed and Destiny were the first to be dubbed and distributed immediately after they aired in Japan.
        It took until 00 for original and western distribution dates to overlap afaik

      • 2 years ago
        dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org

        yeah iirc first wave was animevilliage dot com putting out the First trilogy, 0080, and 0083 on VHS dub or sub, then there was the tease of A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT that ended up Wing on CN, Toonami normal daytime was the normal TV edit dub, then at midnight they reran the same episode but uncut (even with a promo of Tom re-enforcing "yeah you heard me, uncut")
        I think somewhere around this time was 08th MS Team and the ads for 0083 on broadcast tv strapped into Monkey Magic

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They broadcast 08th MS team and some Evangellion and some other stuff during Toonami's Mecha Week or month one year.

          I seem to recall they also never broadcast 08th MS episode 12 because kid me was distraught with the mystery ending.

          (I know a lot of people really like it, but as a kid I was worried as hell by the ambiguity)

          [...]

          She was the one who liked roughhousing in the prequel manga. He was a geek but did all his martial arts training in secret or some shit.

          • 2 years ago
            dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org

            yeah CN eventually broadcast a lot of stuff, but I'm just trying to recall the initial salvos
            they also ran EW, pretty sure at various points 0080 and 0083, think CCA too
            I'm pretty sure that EW was the same Friday that Scorpion King came out

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They ran 0080 for Christmas one year. Very merry.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They ran 0080 for Christmas one year. Very merry.

              They also ran EW almost every Christmas I think.

              • 2 years ago
                dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org

                They ran 0080 for Christmas one year. Very merry.

                wow what kind of weirdos would do that

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The dubbed movies aired before Wing I think, but once Wing was a hit they aired the full original series. It didn't do well and they used 9/11 as an excuse to push the remainder of the run to adult swim.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Original Series TV dub was good, compilation movie sucked dick. Blum's Char was terrible compared to 0079 TV or Zeta's voice actors. And hole shit Kycilia's scream.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          British Bright is the definitive one and I won't hear a word against him or Non-Specifically-European Sayla.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no 0079 came after wing for the u.s. broadcast

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The first Gundam movies got a video release first ( with that infamous dub with British Bright), same with VHS subs of 0083 and 0080 from what I recall (unless the tapes I rented fansubs, could be given where I rented them from) but Wing was the first broadcasted on NA TV. They very quickly put First Gundam TV, G Gundam, 08th MS Team, 0080, 0083 and CCA on air afterwards.

      Original Series TV dub was good, compilation movie sucked dick. Blum's Char was terrible compared to 0079 TV or Zeta's voice actors. And hole shit Kycilia's scream.

      British Bright is the definitive one and I won't hear a word against him or Non-Specifically-European Sayla.

      That reminds me, how come they never redubbed the movie when Zeta and CCA was out in the west? Also, I prefer shouting Sieg Zeon over Hail Zeon that was used in the older dubs.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not worth the expense.

        CCA was mostly 0079 TV actors not Zeta ones wasn't it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, the TV cased was used instead of the ones in Zeta; but I just found it strange since they went ahead and released the trilogy on Netflix so I was curious how everyone will sound like since it will be a whole new cast.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Wait what trilogy's getting a whole new cast on Netflix?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No, they released the movies sub only, but iirc every anime or live action like Bleach and Full Metal Alchemist gets dubs later on which is why I thought the 0079 would end up getting the same treatment.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ratings weren't great, but 9/11 happened and that was the excuse to cancel it, because America went stupid with violent media.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It also had like 2 episodes left when they pulled it.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno but I'm glad it did.
    I was already halfway in the door of mecha thanks to Robotech, a Gundam that could transform like the Valkyries drew me in instantly.
    Also them keeping "JUST COMMUNICATION" as an insert song in episode 3 was my gateway to jpop.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Also them keeping "JUST COMMUNICATION" as an insert song in episode 3 was my gateway to jpop.
      This, such a god tier way to make your first Gundam stand out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Getting a Japanese OP when it aired in Canada, after all TV anime OPs were dubbed before, definitely made it feel like you were going to be watching something special. And if you were 10 and had never seen a mecha anime before it sure seemed like it. Especially since you had people getting thrown out of planes and shot, Heero in the early episodes resetting his own broken shoulder and trying to suicide bomb half the time. It seemed very "mature" and had the perfect level of edge for that time period.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was the most recent series with a full 4-cour they could use to fill 10 weeks with an episode every weekday.

    Please understand linear time OP.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the most recent series
      full stop
      they got lucky too because wing is exactly the right level of stupid to achieve success on toonami

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    With regards to the Movie Trilogy dub having a fricked up script, a Robotech guy rewrote the translation.

    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3954

    • 2 years ago
      dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org

      he was also Abe Lincoln in Bill and Ted

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >he was also Abe Lincoln in Bill and Ted
        He’s not even the right one for dropping all those Star Trek terms into the script.

        “Beam the commander aboard!”

        “There goes the last of my phaser neutrons!”

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's the ultimate mecha show for schoolboys and I don't mean that as an insult to Wing.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If people don't like the logo we can just go back to putting GUNDAM-W front and center

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >FRICK YOU I LIKE IT
    On the topic of logos, what are your thoughts on the one for Endless Walz?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Christmas movie.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It has that soft cursive 18th century aristocratic feel to it which is a core part of Wing's aesthetic appeal.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I remember Gundam 00 and highlander being aired on Syfi, neoin as well

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t know but it was my personal gateway into Gundam so I think it was a good choice.

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