>He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
The first episode about Della Duck actually (What happened to Della Duck?!). The episode where Goldie was in was mostly children present.
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How much this tweet left in the memory of many people, even those who were not interested in Ducktales. Thanks Angones.
During the final "fight" of the show they had Webby front an center with the other characters in the background, they clearly just wanted to make it a Webby show for some reason
the rejected Darkwing Duck reboot by the same people was going to focus on Gosalyn isntead of Darkwing according to the pitch bible
Different eras, different types of competition, c'mon man. The landscape was very different when 80s DuckTales was airing.
I'll give you that the big reveal with her background completely fricked up the show's legacy, but the series was floundering in the final season anyway, and she had some solid stuff before that (the Lena and Webby stuff was one of the best parts of early DT).
Honestly "what went wrong" was that they had some ideas for lore and season-long storylines, and weren't told how many seasons/eps they'd have at the start. I suspect it would've been a much better show if they'd known on day one that they'd have exactly 69 episodes.
Because it tried to be subversive and kept faking you out with every single potentially-interesting sub-plot, whereas the original DT played it all straight if overly saccharine.
I know there's: >The first episode >Part of the Scales arc where he has to help Scrooge recover his "ice cream" from the "sea monster" >The one where he gets mistaken for an Egyptian Pharaoh >A brief appearance as Scrooge's best man during his wedding to a scheming widower
>He had a larger role in Quack Pack, but most people don't like that show aside from Daisy's design
Yes, but we're talking about the OG Ducktales. Yes, in Quack Pack, Donald was the main character and he was in all the episodes and he was himself. It depends on who, but most of the hate for Quack Pack mostly comes from loud internet critics who said the show was worthless because it wasn't like Ducktales and focused too much on Donald's nephews, and now they're praising Ducktales 2017 at the top of their lungs, and Ducktales reboot repeated the same errors as Quack Pack, but worse. Although I would say they didn't watch or watched episodes that were really bad.
What Quack Pack did best that both versions of Ducktales didn't do was the dynamic relationships between Donald and his nephews and unlike the classic shorts, Donald had a softer and truer parental heart. It was like a father-son relationship and it was the only one of all the animated depictions of Donald with his nephews where they showed it in a deeper way. As well as relationships between triplets. Realistically, I would have preferred that Ducktales 2017 took that version, rather than mixing it up and creating a new one. Big damage. Well, there are comics where the relationship between Donald and his nephews is better shown, but Americans don't read comics.
And we should not forget the series The Legend of The Three Caballeros, where Donald was also a central figure and was willing to go on adventures. I'm also glad they used the Caballeros in better ways and used Daisy's nieces in a proper way for the first time. Xandra as the waifu was great too. Too bad Disney banned it from showing until it was accidentally leaked, just so it wouldn't compete with Ducktales.
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Quack Pack had Donald just as often getting one over the nephews as they do on him, but when the chips are down, they'll always stick up for each other, which is more than can be said for DT17. I feel like the only thing that really drove people off QP was the overly-90s nephews when it was probably the best non-comic showing of them and Donald.
>This is one of the things they did right though. Made them look a lot closer to their classic designs.
You're kidding, aren't you? Because the Nu-Tales style is nothing like the styles from the old comics or the old cartoons. It's all a bait for you to fall for.
Ehh not really. The main thing that stands out is the very flat angular style they picked for the show. Everyone is a series of hard angles and straight lines.
The halftone and off lineart backgrounds were made to match up with the comics though.
>Carl Barks and Milt Kahl are the greatest, combine their styles! >Except follow my explicit instructions to do all these weird things neither Barks nor Kahl ever did
I still don't how it overshadowed ducktales and amphibia so easily, it isn't as brain rotting like rabbids/minions/ytkids to attract tablet kids nor it has some kind of plot to attract the manchildren (aka us)
I never watched the cartoon but I watched the movie and it was fricking gorgeous, I hear they spent a fortune in it because it was one of their first tv shows
DuckTales was the actual first Disney Afternoon show as it was made specifically for the block. Gummi Bears was originally made for CBS and got rolled into TDA once it completed its run.
DuckTales was the actual first Disney Afternoon show as it was made specifically for the block. Gummi Bears was originally made for CBS and got rolled into TDA once it completed its run.
bullshit.. those always have some code stamped on the box.. or else the production facility wouldnt know what line they are producing at that time. they dont just randomly put them in boxes they have to keep track of how many for each character. the production equipment will stamp a unique code that refers back to that batch of product. the MLP ones had this the care bear ones had this and im sure these do also... if you see these codes when you open it up note the character.. then go find one with that same code. open it. same character.
shit, even mcdonalds did that for their blind box crap not long ago. was easy to figure out which box had what toy.
It got a lot better in the second season. But then the third dropped everything so it can make references to 90s Disney and Disney Afternoon shows. It was boring to sit through.
Also the show fanboyed over the original show way too much. It constantly told you over and over again how Scrooge was this cool amazing adventurer that goes anywhere, but we never see that. We never see him do anything cool, we are just told that he does cool things a lot. Then it's on to a low level kids or Webby episode.
I don't understand it. All they needed to do was make the 87 show, except switch out Donald for Launchpad and make him the dumb loser that bumbles around and screws up.
They just decided to make a Triplets and Webby show and no Duck series has ever wanted to focus on them like that before.
>They just decided to make a Triplets and Webby show and no Duck series has ever wanted to focus on them like that before.
Anon what the frick are you talking about, they were the focus of the 87 show and movie as well
Not the same anon, but the difference is that they weren't in every episode and they weren't on the spectrum with adults, but where they definitely were since they were kids. The main focus was on Scrooge though, Donald's nephews and Webby were the main sidekicks and had a purpose. Yes, they did over focus on Webby a bit, but then again it's better compared to Nu-Tales where nephews and Webby had to be in every freaking episode except for two episodes even in the moments where they don't need to be there, but they were.
In the Barks comics and in the original show, the triplets act like a Greek chorus. Their purpose is to both supplement the action provided by the stars (Scrooge and/or Donald) and to act as bystanders to the action, providing commentary and acting as a bridge between the audience and the characters.
Yeah when the kids did something in the old show it was usually part of a larger adventure or something that would involve Scrooge or Launchpad showing up to save the day.
Watching some random episodes, it was Scrooge and identical helpful sidekicks. The triplets rarely took center stage in any part. They just helped stop Beagle Boys or made a rope trap on occasion.
The entire landscape of "shows" has changed since 1987. Not just kids animation, and not just animation in general. There's more competition (from games, from youtube, etc.), and expenses that could be justified once upon a time cannot be justified now. Who gives a shit about "syndication" or "timeslots" in 2024?
Because it wasn't as good. OG was fun, adventurous and heartfelt. It was beautifully animated and creative. The new is just modern douche bag sarcastic self aware crap that can only roll it's eyes at sentiment while pretending to be better than what it's trying to emulate.
They were trying to speed run lore and cram in as many references to try and build a shared universe based on the Disney Afternoon as possible before the show even found it's proper footing. Not to mention trying to cram in through plots for its own lore instead of telling strong, if episodic adventures. Lore has ruined everything.
>everyone acting like 69 episodes isn't way over the majority of shows that have come out the past 20 years
The real question is what did the reboot do to get that many?
Anon, the 2016 PPG reboot had 116 episodes
69 is a pathetic ammount compared to the 80s one, but still better than ther Animaniacs' reboot which only ran for 36 episodes unlike the OG which ran for 99 plus a movie
Do you want me to open some old wounds? I'm sure plenty of your favorite shows never got to half that number. Have you forgotten the dreaded 52 episode cutoff that sealed the fate for a lot of shows? 116 and 89 are far from the usual, just like 69. Nice.
I'm fine with shows ending as long as it actually ends. Like, Clone High could've ended with them in a freezer and I would've gone, "Yep, that's an ending and it's not a cliffhanger".
Especially seeing just how bad reboots and continuations are, I encourage more shows to not be continued. Samurai Jack having two endings because people were so unhappy with one is more moronic than getting cancelled on a high note.
Anon, the 2016 PPG reboot had 116 episodes
69 is a pathetic ammount compared to the 80s one, but still better than ther Animaniacs' reboot which only ran for 36 episodes unlike the OG which ran for 99 plus a movie
The correct answer is that it wasn't on every afternoon on network television, being pushed as THE premier cartoon block for kids to watch in a time when watching new, quality cartoons was something you had to wait until Saturday to see.
Kids were a viable target demo when the original happened. The target demo for everything now is tweeting women. So new shows are made in the hopes of appealing to them, but end up appealing to no one.
But the disparities in purchasing power are so great now that this approach is still seen as the best option even if it generally fails.
It’s a delaying tactic at best, no one gives a shit anymore, and everything you ever loved will go the way of Amos and Andy in your lifetime.
>character bloat >humor typically doesn't land >the advertising and buzz around the show implied the show would take heavy influence from the comics and be more donald/scrooge centric, this was a lie
?si=nrb6qfMb3DnNNkNj >giving the triplets individual personalities, but those personalities (and voices) are annoying and not likable >webby tales >not really an adventure cartoon, some episodes are just kind of boring and they don't do much
I need to find that clip of Louie getting pissed about how "cliche" the adventure he was on. Old Ductales had its faults, but it was genuine and didn't blueball you.
>>the advertising and buzz around the show implied the show would take heavy influence from the comics and be more donald/scrooge centric, this was a lie
If you want to be surprised, originally Ducktales was supposed to be an animated adaptation of the Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics in which Scrooge and Donald would really be the main characters. Of course, Launchpad, Duckworth, Webby and Beakley would also be present and all according to Joe Pitt's ideas. But Disney management wanted more focus on the kids (nephews and Webby) and they rejected his idea so he left Disney and gave Angones after they canceled Wander Over Yonder. By the way, Angones and Youngberg wanted Darkwing Duck more than Ducktales, but Disney didn't give it to them. Here are some original plans for what Ducktales was supposed to look like: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9fmf8jsg1v286/DUCKTALES_PITCH_BIBLES_%2B_STORYBOARDS_%2B_EARLY_DRAFTS
There was even an offer for an animated adaptation of the Italian comics, but Disney refused because they don't care.
Because the policy today is "higher earnings, cheaper style" is better for them. So they also throw in the woke ideology. Unfortunately, we live in a dark period and only God can help us.
Adventure Time outperforming Korra and making more revenue taught executives that audiences will accept a cheap as dirt show with literal stick figure doodles and it will make as much money as the big tentpole expensive production show. And the suits can pocket the difference, which was considerable.
So all we will ever get are cheap as shit shows with noodle arm doodles made for pennies so the suits can get paid even more.
Also immediately after the show ended Agones made a really long tweet thread going over the episodes.
His explanation was that the Disney execs demanded that the show be made relatable for kids and that's why the triplets were featured in almost every episode. Every time he pitched a Scrooge or Donald episode, they told him to replace that character with usually Louie for the Scrooge ones, or Webby for the Donald ones. Or he was told to drop a lot of the Donald B plots since they took attention away from the kids. He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
We almost got a Die Hard episode with Donald but that was dropped because it took attention away from Dewey.
It says enough that they wanted more focus on the adults and that the episode with the adults does much better for them than with the kids. The episode Louie's Eleven could have been without Dewey and Louie and just Caballeros and Daisy, but they simply sacrificed the Caballeros for the sake of two annoying boys. Ironically, I enjoyed the episode where Donald and Della were kids much better. Although that doesn't make them less culpable for the damage they've done, and Disney management is also culpable for the stupid policies they've pushed.
Yes, they got David Tennant and Catherine Tate for Scrooge and Magica and they couldn't make enough focus on the two of them all the time which is really disappointing. As for Donald, I'm sure they would have changed his voice acting too if Disney hadn't told them it couldn't. And I'm not surprised that Tony Anselmo complained a few times.
If they got a real Darkwing Duck reboot, Latina Gosalyn would be the main character, not her father Drake Mallard, because according to Disney "they are cartoons for children and children must be the main characters".
>"they are cartoons for children and children must be the main characters".
Everyone always sort of forgets the successful series that had no kids at all in them like Ghostbusters, Voltron, almost every superhero show, Rockos modern life, almost every video game adaptation, TMNT,
For some reason executives do not think it is possible to make a cartoon that is not totally focused on kids as the main characters.
>Everyone always sort of forgets the successful series that had no kids at all
Which is funny since this is proven through a vast portion of the Donald and Scrooge adaptions, the characters who should be the leads in a show like this
>He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
The first episode about Della Duck actually (What happened to Della Duck?!). The episode where Goldie was in was mostly children present.
Because my ego got destroyed by the Latina duck, just as her creator envisioned. I haven't recovered since
How much this tweet left in the memory of many people, even those who were not interested in Ducktales. Thanks Angones.
This whole thing is pretty wild and puzzling.
Donald has endured for 90 years and arguably for the last 85 is the most popular cartoon character alive. Scrooge is massively popular and up there as well. Both are still the most popular characters in this show. How did execs get to this conclusion that no one could relate to those characters that had been relatable to all ages for a lifetime especially since one is one of their biggest overall, and that there can only be relation to the kids characters who have shown to never be as popular as them over that time and they need to be forced in to “prop up” Donald and Scrooge? Not like HDLW were going to appeal to kids regardless.
And you can honestly see how they had ideas but were forced to alter them for this mandate. In your example with Louie’s Eleven, they wanted a Die Hard parody, a Donald and Daisy meetup and romance blooming arc, and a Three Caballeros crashing a party to try and get their band noted episode. Likely all of these were separate episode ideas that were forced into the same episode, with the obvious nephews “setting up” the scheme and acting as support to satisfy the mandate. This led to Jose and Panchito being secondary characters for the entire second half of the episode, the Die Hard parody being a quick segment instead of a full episode, and Daisy having to get involved in the parody intended for just Donald. Also Webby is randomly thrown in there.
And it didn’t work bad but it’s clear what the were forced to do, you can go back to episodes and clearly see what ideas were meant for HDLW and what weee compromises to quickly put in what they actually wanted
Like most things executives are a main reason for underperforming, and in this case for the dumbest reason too.
Because the executives paid hundreds of thousands to various media, marketing, and public relations analysts who made studies and informed them that children need relatable characters on screen and that will equal higher ratings and profits. And no amount of artists or viewers can tell them otherwise because the information came form highly expensive studies from the "top experts"
Oh and the Die Hard parody was actually the first Mark Beaks episode. The Falcon guy takes over and Donald who was applying to work for Beaks escaped into the ventilation system. Frank gives a full rundown of the whole episode was apparently in tears when it was almost entirely dropped. The big experiment being nothing at all was because too much of the episode was dropped and they had nothing to replace it with.
Jaw$ was the most notorious Scrooge episode turned into a Webby episode.
Huh. Was that in the art book? Or mentioned on Twitter? I didn’t realize that Donald was originally going to be applying to work for Mark Beaks. The leaked pitch definitely suggests that Donald was going to play a much larger role (and Della, likely, a smaller one).
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Day after the finale Frank Agones made a huge tweet thread covering each episode in season 1 and 2 and all the changes they had to make
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No Season 3, I take it? So even he knew that whole season was a mess beyond repair.
Shame. Glad I dropped the show after 3 episodes due to its shoddy animation and annoying voices. But I didnt know they went out of their way to focus on kiddy shit. But given everything else Disney makes these days I shouldn't be surprised.
Also immediately after the show ended Agones made a really long tweet thread going over the episodes.
His explanation was that the Disney execs demanded that the show be made relatable for kids and that's why the triplets were featured in almost every episode. Every time he pitched a Scrooge or Donald episode, they told him to replace that character with usually Louie for the Scrooge ones, or Webby for the Donald ones. Or he was told to drop a lot of the Donald B plots since they took attention away from the kids. He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
We almost got a Die Hard episode with Donald but that was dropped because it took attention away from Dewey.
Considering how shitty the crew and showrunners were to Donald's voice actor, even if I believe that executives messed with their show, I am unable to scrounge up any level of sympathy for them.mgh
>giving the triplets individual personalities, but those personalities (and voices) are annoying and not likable
More than that, I feel like trying to flesh out the triples misses the point. Adventure shows like DuckTales are supposed to be location-driven, not character-driven.
>Webby and her toothpaste friends
Webby's relationship with her friends is still okay, and that was actually a good aspect of the Ducktales reboot. The only bigger problem was that there was too much focus on Webby instead of other significant characters and that Webby ended up getting everything.
It never really seemed like it was much of a kids show. It was far too angry cynical, with nonstop references to early 90s things that no kid would get. It felt like an Adult Swim series on Disney for some reason.
Yeah, the problem also just lines with.. I don't think kids care as much about "silly animal people adventures in animal world" now as they did back then and I don't think trying to pivot towards an overarching 2010s storytelling style was gonna fix that.
The problem with reboots and revivals of 80s and 90s kids properties is that you're marketing more to parents than kids and even parents who watch stuff with their kids are gonna wanna try to get into what their kids like and just directly show them the original when they can. Unless it's a major longrunning franchise, you aren't gonna bridge that gap.
>Make a series that's just Scrooge, Donald, and Della and no one else going on actual adventures
Would have been better then 95% of the episodes we got
>Ducktales 2017 got a Disney theme park attraction (and one half of another) >Something only four other shows have ever done (three of which are defunct), and Ducktales 1987 isn’t one of them
There is zero way you could argue against this show being a success
Ducktales 2017 was mostly promoted on social networks as well as through the sale of various items. There were even Ducktales 2017 comics on sale, but due to lower demand they pulled it. Although it didn't attract me as much as other comics.
The animation. Original series had them looking like Huey Dewey and Louie do. Remake was filled with flat tweening tings that didn't even have the same feeling of depth. The thick black outlines were also unbecoming. It's just flat stamps from a cheap internet cartoon .
Even the title lacks that col gradient!
They wanted to flesh it out with comic book variants, but in the end it all seemed too superficial and tasteless, but good bait for comic book fans. Still the animation was ok but the style was terrible in Ducktales 2017.
The original was also the first time a studio in the 80s spent a large amount of money on a TV cartoon, Ducktales had higher quality animation in 1987 than basically anything new coming out at the time.
Nah Ducktales was popular because its production quality was fricking insane for 1987. Everything from the music to animation to art direction was basically unheard of for a syndicated television cartoon at the time. It's cited as the first step towards the 90s animation renaissance because it proved that big budget television animation could be profitable. Seriously watch any episode of the first season of Ducktales and compare it to other cartoons from 1987 or earlier, it's nuts how huge the gap in quality is.
Old TV series have a special quality to them that they just attract viewers because that was just what was on and people watched what was on.
Everything now in the streaming era is people keep to things that they specifically want to watch and rarely bother giving things a chance unless it is exactly what they want to see. There is no leaving the tv on and just watching what happens to be on, until you start to get into it and like it.
Afternoon cartoons were very much this. They were to a lot of people what happened to be on, and people slowly go into them.
The animation. Original series had them looking like Huey Dewey and Louie do. Remake was filled with flat tweening tings that didn't even have the same feeling of depth. The thick black outlines were also unbecoming. It's just flat stamps from a cheap internet cartoon .
Even the title lacks that col gradient!
The remake should have been about OC ducks in Duckburg. I think the style and animation were passable, but were tacked onto the wrong property.
As a europoor kid I obediently watched the original Ducktales dubbed in my language, but was let down because Donald barely appeared. It was just these side characters I didn't care for.
80s had significantly higher competition for timeslots. Everyone wanted the 5PM on weekdays slop or the 10AM on Saturday slot. So everything made for those times were higher quality, and each studio made sure their output was attractive enough to network and advertiser executives.
The 80s show was groundbreaking for its time in terms of production values for a television cartoon. It wasnt theatrical quality but it may as well have been compared to the other junk on the air. The new one just looks like every other cheap-o Jay Wardy piece of trash today. Gotta spend money to make money, or innovate in some way. DuckTales (new version) does neither.
Because they had the typical writers trying to force their own ideas no matter what, right down to b***hing about it online when Disney out their foot down.
Dunno. Don't care. I enjoyed both.
I hate how hard it is to find people that genuinely enjoy things in modern fandoms. Why is damn near every thread on this board a bunch of people b***hing and arguing?
But even if you enjoyed the show, you must at least understand the parts people would have gripes with, no? I feel the threads tend to have genuine discussions about the flaws, of course with some anons in-between just b***hing for b***hing but not enough to derail.
I have my gripes, sure. I just find it sad that there's so little room for enjoyment on this board, the threads are dominated by people attacking one another, attacking shows/comics, and /misc/shittery.
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
Cinemaphile was never good, but it legitimately used to be better.
>I'd rather watch quack pack than this shit
It's the only animated series where they've done a good job of portraying the relationship between Donald and his nephews as a father-son relationship without being based on the comics (you have more of that in the comics).
I remember when some of us thought the Della origin in the show matching the comics meant they were gonna make deeper dives and bring the duck comic characters over.
It amounted to what, Fethry, Della, Matilda, Fergus and Downy?
And a really lame take on Rockerduck, I suppose?
The nieces were technically in the show, but barely(beyond Webby, and we only learned that at the end).
2: While this version is drawing on classic disney characters like crazy (and not sucking while doing it...even acknowledging Talespin was set in an earlier time period than Ducktales...but Don Karnage is oddly young. DK the 2nd, maybe?), everybody's hooked on the 87 cartoon. Nice that this version put lyrics to the nes game's Moon stage.
AMJ are funny and helpful sidekicks, where you can tell the personality differences between them, who are endearing when on screen but don't overshadow who the three protagonists should be
They were done very solidly here
>"I hope I get a good grade." Panchito enthused as June stroked the rooster's wiener >June smiled up at him as she continued her work. "Don't worry, we'll know if you're adventure ready in no time." >Jose's tongue lolled, his panting the only response to May cradling and fondling his balls. "Not that there's any need to rush things. We need to be thorough. You guys are way overdue." >April mumbled an affirmative, her beak bobbing in Donald's lap with happy little moans, her own hand between her thighs >"No. No, no, no." The sailor was pressed far back into the couch eyes shut >Xandra watched the scene with intent interest. "The girls are right. It's important to make sure your bodies are ready for anything. Not just your mind and muscles. The old Caballeros never went on a quest before passing inspection." >"Oh Daisy!" Donald bemoaned >his hands pushed the young duckling's head into his groin, her happy squeal cutoff by thick gulps as Donald pumped into her beak >Jose gasped as he spurt streaks of white all over May's face >She smirked, wiping a thick string of spunk off her bill's edge. "Someone's excited." >"You can do it, Panchito." June encouraged >Panchito giggled as he came with powerful throbs into delicate hands >Gathering the musky liquid in her palms June lapped at the seed. "Tasty and little spicy." >Xandra loomed over the bunch. "Great work guys. I say you pass with flying colors." >The sated Caballeros let out a drowsy cheer >"Now it's my turn." >Golden armor fell away and the men's eyes bulged their manhoods already weakly twitching in anticipation >Gathering to the side, the nieces savored their pearly desserts, May and June tending to their own needs >"I can't believe they fell for that." June said. >"Works everytime." May drawled. >"April licked her chops. "Better than Aunt Daisy's Clam Inspection Day."
That does lead to the question, if Disney put their backing into LOT3C instead of DT would have they forced AMJ to in essence be the "main characters" the way they did with HDLW.
The cast is so small everyone appears in every episode anyway so that wouldn't be an issue the way the way vast DT cast had issues with
Incidentally I'm curious about who the team working on Cabs was. Because the show had a general better sense of, well I guess the word I want is professionalism, compared to the douchy sarcastic millennial knobs who worked on ducktales.
Not really. Donald's nephews would be very useful to the Caballeros especially giving them advice from the Junior Woodchuck Guidebook and would be great helpers. Like in the OG Ducktales or in the comics. In fact, they are also the best helpers to their uncle, only most people don't appreciate that.
That does lead to the question, if Disney put their backing into LOT3C instead of DT would have they forced AMJ to in essence be the "main characters" the way they did with HDLW.
The cast is so small everyone appears in every episode anyway so that wouldn't be an issue the way the way vast DT cast had issues with
Incidentally I'm curious about who the team working on Cabs was. Because the show had a general better sense of, well I guess the word I want is professionalism, compared to the douchy sarcastic millennial knobs who worked on ducktales.
Matt Danner and his people (especially animator Bob McKnight) did The Legend of The Three Caballeros series very well. The original idea was for Donald's nephews to be in that series as sidekicks, but the problem was that at the same time another work was being done on the Ducktales reboot and that Donald's nephews would definitely be there, so as not to copy, they took Daisy's nieces and made them very Okay. Danner himself said in one of the podcasts.
Well, now the problem was that they were making it at the same time as the Ducktales reboot and when the Ducktales reboot was first shown, Disney management supposedly hid that series (I think one of them explained on Twitter) so that it wouldn't compete with Ducktales 2017 to them. They wouldn't even know about that series if it wasn't allegedly leaked on social media, so Disney put it on Disney Plus after more than a year, but somehow still denies its existence, which I think is stupid. Unfortunately most people still don't know about it or just don't care and the damage is already done.
since this is basically /DonaldDuck/ general, i figured Id ask this here. Does anyone know where online I can read the Al Taliferro Donald Duck comic strip?
both are poo poo compared to the comics
Shut it Barks
If it was so successful then he shouldn't need to make a sign to clarify
not his fault americans don't like good comics
But where are the exotic chillies?!
How did this little sign manage to buckbreak NuTales so hard?
How do I keep seeing this image every time people talk about ducktales?
same reason you keep seeing this one...
Classic autism.
The funniest thing is that he has multiple of those and he updates them
>and which the new "DuckTales" TV series has virtually no similarity to whatsoever.
How much do you think it upset Frank to see that?
I don't think Frank gives a flying frick. He seemed to care much more about adapting Darkwing than Ducktales, let alone the old comics.
Losing out on that to Seth Rogen must have broken him.
God I hope so.
KINO Rosa
During the final "fight" of the show they had Webby front an center with the other characters in the background, they clearly just wanted to make it a Webby show for some reason
the rejected Darkwing Duck reboot by the same people was going to focus on Gosalyn isntead of Darkwing according to the pitch bible
Different eras, different types of competition, c'mon man. The landscape was very different when 80s DuckTales was airing.
I'll give you that the big reveal with her background completely fricked up the show's legacy, but the series was floundering in the final season anyway, and she had some solid stuff before that (the Lena and Webby stuff was one of the best parts of early DT).
Honestly "what went wrong" was that they had some ideas for lore and season-long storylines, and weren't told how many seasons/eps they'd have at the start. I suspect it would've been a much better show if they'd known on day one that they'd have exactly 69 episodes.
nice.
Because it tried to be subversive and kept faking you out with every single potentially-interesting sub-plot, whereas the original DT played it all straight if overly saccharine.
>if overly saccharine.
I'll take sugar over bitter cynicism.
dare to compare
>Nu-Tales Scrooge and Goldie
Pathetic! Especially compared to Don Rosa.
Sure, she's kissing him on the lips instead of the cheek, but he looks absolutely disgusted rather than pleased like in the 80s screenshot.
>kissing him on the lips
ducks dont have lips you moron. she is kissing his beak. jesus frick man, stop being a potato
The beaks
why did they do it
This is worse advertising than the 2017 show. Donald is only in 3 episodes in thee whole 65 episode season.
He at least has the illusion of being one of the main cast in the 2017 show.
>Donald is only in 3 episodes in thee whole 65 episode season.
8 episodes actually.
I know there's:
>The first episode
>Part of the Scales arc where he has to help Scrooge recover his "ice cream" from the "sea monster"
>The one where he gets mistaken for an Egyptian Pharaoh
>A brief appearance as Scrooge's best man during his wedding to a scheming widower
Yes, but also the episode where Donald was hypnotized by this duck. And the episode with the Phantom Blot.
This is one of the things they did right though. Made them look a lot closer to their classic designs.
Wrong, the Nu-Tales designs are nothing like the comic designs or even the classic shorts for that matter
She cute
He had a larger role in Quack Pack, but most people don't like that show aside from Daisy's design
>He had a larger role in Quack Pack, but most people don't like that show aside from Daisy's design
Yes, but we're talking about the OG Ducktales. Yes, in Quack Pack, Donald was the main character and he was in all the episodes and he was himself. It depends on who, but most of the hate for Quack Pack mostly comes from loud internet critics who said the show was worthless because it wasn't like Ducktales and focused too much on Donald's nephews, and now they're praising Ducktales 2017 at the top of their lungs, and Ducktales reboot repeated the same errors as Quack Pack, but worse. Although I would say they didn't watch or watched episodes that were really bad.
What Quack Pack did best that both versions of Ducktales didn't do was the dynamic relationships between Donald and his nephews and unlike the classic shorts, Donald had a softer and truer parental heart. It was like a father-son relationship and it was the only one of all the animated depictions of Donald with his nephews where they showed it in a deeper way. As well as relationships between triplets. Realistically, I would have preferred that Ducktales 2017 took that version, rather than mixing it up and creating a new one. Big damage. Well, there are comics where the relationship between Donald and his nephews is better shown, but Americans don't read comics.
And we should not forget the series The Legend of The Three Caballeros, where Donald was also a central figure and was willing to go on adventures. I'm also glad they used the Caballeros in better ways and used Daisy's nieces in a proper way for the first time. Xandra as the waifu was great too. Too bad Disney banned it from showing until it was accidentally leaked, just so it wouldn't compete with Ducktales.
Quack Pack had Donald just as often getting one over the nephews as they do on him, but when the chips are down, they'll always stick up for each other, which is more than can be said for DT17. I feel like the only thing that really drove people off QP was the overly-90s nephews when it was probably the best non-comic showing of them and Donald.
>Made them look a lot closer to their classic designs.
Yeah...sure
Magica looks exactly like her comic design in the reboot...
Why do Americans hate Italian hornyness
>This is one of the things they did right though. Made them look a lot closer to their classic designs.
You're kidding, aren't you? Because the Nu-Tales style is nothing like the styles from the old comics or the old cartoons. It's all a bait for you to fall for.
Ehh not really. The main thing that stands out is the very flat angular style they picked for the show. Everyone is a series of hard angles and straight lines.
The halftone and off lineart backgrounds were made to match up with the comics though.
>Carl Barks and Milt Kahl are the greatest, combine their styles!
>Except follow my explicit instructions to do all these weird things neither Barks nor Kahl ever did
Post her.
They appeared
I still don't how it overshadowed ducktales and amphibia so easily, it isn't as brain rotting like rabbids/minions/ytkids to attract tablet kids nor it has some kind of plot to attract the manchildren (aka us)
It's kid's Bob's Burgers.
Do you think DT17 fans hate Big City Greens more than The Owl House fandom
It's either one-sided though not as bad as what TOH gays reacted.
HIV riddled homosexuals who pander to left wing lunatics can NOT make a cartoon with any genuine sincerity
It was Disney trying to recapture Gravity Falls' success
I never watched the cartoon but I watched the movie and it was fricking gorgeous, I hear they spent a fortune in it because it was one of their first tv shows
It was the second one after Gummi Bears, and was the longest running one too
DuckTales was the actual first Disney Afternoon show as it was made specifically for the block. Gummi Bears was originally made for CBS and got rolled into TDA once it completed its run.
Rescue Rangers > Ducktales
Take me back please.
wait are these real? cause I would totally get a few if they were
They are mistery minis, you buy a box and don't know what you'll get, you might end with 4 or 5 Chips and Dales since they're the most common
bullshit.. those always have some code stamped on the box.. or else the production facility wouldnt know what line they are producing at that time. they dont just randomly put them in boxes they have to keep track of how many for each character. the production equipment will stamp a unique code that refers back to that batch of product. the MLP ones had this the care bear ones had this and im sure these do also... if you see these codes when you open it up note the character.. then go find one with that same code. open it. same character.
shit, even mcdonalds did that for their blind box crap not long ago. was easy to figure out which box had what toy.
Funko dolls that don't look like utter shit? What sorcery is this?
IWTFHUTA
My frail male ego was destroyed by a spicy Latina and I couldn't stand to continue watching
Because it sucked.
It got a lot better in the second season. But then the third dropped everything so it can make references to 90s Disney and Disney Afternoon shows. It was boring to sit through.
Also the show fanboyed over the original show way too much. It constantly told you over and over again how Scrooge was this cool amazing adventurer that goes anywhere, but we never see that. We never see him do anything cool, we are just told that he does cool things a lot. Then it's on to a low level kids or Webby episode.
Didn't use Caballeros enough
I don't understand it. All they needed to do was make the 87 show, except switch out Donald for Launchpad and make him the dumb loser that bumbles around and screws up.
They just decided to make a Triplets and Webby show and no Duck series has ever wanted to focus on them like that before.
>They just decided to make a Triplets and Webby show and no Duck series has ever wanted to focus on them like that before.
Anon what the frick are you talking about, they were the focus of the 87 show and movie as well
Not the same anon, but the difference is that they weren't in every episode and they weren't on the spectrum with adults, but where they definitely were since they were kids. The main focus was on Scrooge though, Donald's nephews and Webby were the main sidekicks and had a purpose. Yes, they did over focus on Webby a bit, but then again it's better compared to Nu-Tales where nephews and Webby had to be in every freaking episode except for two episodes even in the moments where they don't need to be there, but they were.
In the Barks comics and in the original show, the triplets act like a Greek chorus. Their purpose is to both supplement the action provided by the stars (Scrooge and/or Donald) and to act as bystanders to the action, providing commentary and acting as a bridge between the audience and the characters.
Yeah when the kids did something in the old show it was usually part of a larger adventure or something that would involve Scrooge or Launchpad showing up to save the day.
Watching some random episodes, it was Scrooge and identical helpful sidekicks. The triplets rarely took center stage in any part. They just helped stop Beagle Boys or made a rope trap on occasion.
wienery teenage latina destroyed one too many fragile male egos with a look
Because no one watches tv anymore.
The entire landscape of "shows" has changed since 1987. Not just kids animation, and not just animation in general. There's more competition (from games, from youtube, etc.), and expenses that could be justified once upon a time cannot be justified now. Who gives a shit about "syndication" or "timeslots" in 2024?
They should have made canon porn scenes of the characters
Because it wasn't as good. OG was fun, adventurous and heartfelt. It was beautifully animated and creative. The new is just modern douche bag sarcastic self aware crap that can only roll it's eyes at sentiment while pretending to be better than what it's trying to emulate.
They were trying to speed run lore and cram in as many references to try and build a shared universe based on the Disney Afternoon as possible before the show even found it's proper footing. Not to mention trying to cram in through plots for its own lore instead of telling strong, if episodic adventures. Lore has ruined everything.
>Lore has ruined everything.
this.
frick all the magic and wizards make funny shows without gender politics or Satanism.
>everyone acting like 69 episodes isn't way over the majority of shows that have come out the past 20 years
The real question is what did the reboot do to get that many?
And yet, a show on the exact same channel with way less marketing and airing two years later is still going strong right now.
Disney clearly wanted Ducktales to be their next big thing with how much they pushed it and how much B-listed star power they got behind it.
Do you want me to open some old wounds? I'm sure plenty of your favorite shows never got to half that number. Have you forgotten the dreaded 52 episode cutoff that sealed the fate for a lot of shows? 116 and 89 are far from the usual, just like 69. Nice.
I'm fine with shows ending as long as it actually ends. Like, Clone High could've ended with them in a freezer and I would've gone, "Yep, that's an ending and it's not a cliffhanger".
Especially seeing just how bad reboots and continuations are, I encourage more shows to not be continued. Samurai Jack having two endings because people were so unhappy with one is more moronic than getting cancelled on a high note.
Anon, the 2016 PPG reboot had 116 episodes
69 is a pathetic ammount compared to the 80s one, but still better than ther Animaniacs' reboot which only ran for 36 episodes unlike the OG which ran for 99 plus a movie
>2016 PPG reboot had 116 episodes
Are those 7 to 12 minute episodes? Because that would mean less then DT17
The vast majority of cartoons don't get to 100+ episodes anymore, I'd say 69 is pretty high
It would be enough if the episodes actually felt like they mattered. Instead we get cameos and lore dumps.
The correct answer is that it wasn't on every afternoon on network television, being pushed as THE premier cartoon block for kids to watch in a time when watching new, quality cartoons was something you had to wait until Saturday to see.
Kids were a viable target demo when the original happened. The target demo for everything now is tweeting women. So new shows are made in the hopes of appealing to them, but end up appealing to no one.
But the disparities in purchasing power are so great now that this approach is still seen as the best option even if it generally fails.
It’s a delaying tactic at best, no one gives a shit anymore, and everything you ever loved will go the way of Amos and Andy in your lifetime.
We need memes with onions boy and giga man.
>character bloat
>humor typically doesn't land
>the advertising and buzz around the show implied the show would take heavy influence from the comics and be more donald/scrooge centric, this was a lie
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>giving the triplets individual personalities, but those personalities (and voices) are annoying and not likable
>webby tales
>not really an adventure cartoon, some episodes are just kind of boring and they don't do much
I need to find that clip of Louie getting pissed about how "cliche" the adventure he was on. Old Ductales had its faults, but it was genuine and didn't blueball you.
>>the advertising and buzz around the show implied the show would take heavy influence from the comics and be more donald/scrooge centric, this was a lie
If you want to be surprised, originally Ducktales was supposed to be an animated adaptation of the Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics in which Scrooge and Donald would really be the main characters. Of course, Launchpad, Duckworth, Webby and Beakley would also be present and all according to Joe Pitt's ideas. But Disney management wanted more focus on the kids (nephews and Webby) and they rejected his idea so he left Disney and gave Angones after they canceled Wander Over Yonder. By the way, Angones and Youngberg wanted Darkwing Duck more than Ducktales, but Disney didn't give it to them. Here are some original plans for what Ducktales was supposed to look like: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9fmf8jsg1v286/DUCKTALES_PITCH_BIBLES_%2B_STORYBOARDS_%2B_EARLY_DRAFTS
There was even an offer for an animated adaptation of the Italian comics, but Disney refused because they don't care.
Shame on Disney!
Why can't we have nice things anymore?
Because the policy today is "higher earnings, cheaper style" is better for them. So they also throw in the woke ideology. Unfortunately, we live in a dark period and only God can help us.
Christcucks who support Israel are why we got woke ideology in the first place
Yes, Christian Zionists are the worst. I certainly do not support Israel or Netanyahu. Free Palestina!
Adventure Time outperforming Korra and making more revenue taught executives that audiences will accept a cheap as dirt show with literal stick figure doodles and it will make as much money as the big tentpole expensive production show. And the suits can pocket the difference, which was considerable.
So all we will ever get are cheap as shit shows with noodle arm doodles made for pennies so the suits can get paid even more.
Also immediately after the show ended Agones made a really long tweet thread going over the episodes.
His explanation was that the Disney execs demanded that the show be made relatable for kids and that's why the triplets were featured in almost every episode. Every time he pitched a Scrooge or Donald episode, they told him to replace that character with usually Louie for the Scrooge ones, or Webby for the Donald ones. Or he was told to drop a lot of the Donald B plots since they took attention away from the kids. He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
We almost got a Die Hard episode with Donald but that was dropped because it took attention away from Dewey.
It says enough that they wanted more focus on the adults and that the episode with the adults does much better for them than with the kids. The episode Louie's Eleven could have been without Dewey and Louie and just Caballeros and Daisy, but they simply sacrificed the Caballeros for the sake of two annoying boys. Ironically, I enjoyed the episode where Donald and Della were kids much better. Although that doesn't make them less culpable for the damage they've done, and Disney management is also culpable for the stupid policies they've pushed.
Yes, they got David Tennant and Catherine Tate for Scrooge and Magica and they couldn't make enough focus on the two of them all the time which is really disappointing. As for Donald, I'm sure they would have changed his voice acting too if Disney hadn't told them it couldn't. And I'm not surprised that Tony Anselmo complained a few times.
If they got a real Darkwing Duck reboot, Latina Gosalyn would be the main character, not her father Drake Mallard, because according to Disney "they are cartoons for children and children must be the main characters".
>"they are cartoons for children and children must be the main characters".
Everyone always sort of forgets the successful series that had no kids at all in them like Ghostbusters, Voltron, almost every superhero show, Rockos modern life, almost every video game adaptation, TMNT,
For some reason executives do not think it is possible to make a cartoon that is not totally focused on kids as the main characters.
>Everyone always sort of forgets the successful series that had no kids at all
Which is funny since this is proven through a vast portion of the Donald and Scrooge adaptions, the characters who should be the leads in a show like this
Children also watch more Donald.
>He only got a single episode that did not overly feature the kids and that was the first Goldie episode.
The first episode about Della Duck actually (What happened to Della Duck?!). The episode where Goldie was in was mostly children present.
How much this tweet left in the memory of many people, even those who were not interested in Ducktales. Thanks Angones.
I think that anon means the season 1 episode The Golden Lagoon of White Agony Plains!
>picrel
either gay or a pedophile
I prefer OG gosalyn to this garbage DT17 version
>"teenage"
>shows a fricking 10-year-old
Do people even realize what "teenage" means anymore?
This whole thing is pretty wild and puzzling.
Donald has endured for 90 years and arguably for the last 85 is the most popular cartoon character alive. Scrooge is massively popular and up there as well. Both are still the most popular characters in this show. How did execs get to this conclusion that no one could relate to those characters that had been relatable to all ages for a lifetime especially since one is one of their biggest overall, and that there can only be relation to the kids characters who have shown to never be as popular as them over that time and they need to be forced in to “prop up” Donald and Scrooge? Not like HDLW were going to appeal to kids regardless.
And you can honestly see how they had ideas but were forced to alter them for this mandate. In your example with Louie’s Eleven, they wanted a Die Hard parody, a Donald and Daisy meetup and romance blooming arc, and a Three Caballeros crashing a party to try and get their band noted episode. Likely all of these were separate episode ideas that were forced into the same episode, with the obvious nephews “setting up” the scheme and acting as support to satisfy the mandate. This led to Jose and Panchito being secondary characters for the entire second half of the episode, the Die Hard parody being a quick segment instead of a full episode, and Daisy having to get involved in the parody intended for just Donald. Also Webby is randomly thrown in there.
And it didn’t work bad but it’s clear what the were forced to do, you can go back to episodes and clearly see what ideas were meant for HDLW and what weee compromises to quickly put in what they actually wanted
Like most things executives are a main reason for underperforming, and in this case for the dumbest reason too.
Because the executives paid hundreds of thousands to various media, marketing, and public relations analysts who made studies and informed them that children need relatable characters on screen and that will equal higher ratings and profits. And no amount of artists or viewers can tell them otherwise because the information came form highly expensive studies from the "top experts"
Oh and the Die Hard parody was actually the first Mark Beaks episode. The Falcon guy takes over and Donald who was applying to work for Beaks escaped into the ventilation system. Frank gives a full rundown of the whole episode was apparently in tears when it was almost entirely dropped. The big experiment being nothing at all was because too much of the episode was dropped and they had nothing to replace it with.
Jaw$ was the most notorious Scrooge episode turned into a Webby episode.
Huh. Was that in the art book? Or mentioned on Twitter? I didn’t realize that Donald was originally going to be applying to work for Mark Beaks. The leaked pitch definitely suggests that Donald was going to play a much larger role (and Della, likely, a smaller one).
Day after the finale Frank Agones made a huge tweet thread covering each episode in season 1 and 2 and all the changes they had to make
No Season 3, I take it? So even he knew that whole season was a mess beyond repair.
Shame. Glad I dropped the show after 3 episodes due to its shoddy animation and annoying voices. But I didnt know they went out of their way to focus on kiddy shit. But given everything else Disney makes these days I shouldn't be surprised.
Considering how shitty the crew and showrunners were to Donald's voice actor, even if I believe that executives messed with their show, I am unable to scrounge up any level of sympathy for them.mgh
>giving the triplets individual personalities, but those personalities (and voices) are annoying and not likable
More than that, I feel like trying to flesh out the triples misses the point. Adventure shows like DuckTales are supposed to be location-driven, not character-driven.
I prefer duck tails. check out that nice fluffy tail, hiding that sweet spot!
I mean for me i just wanted to see Scrooge and all we got was Webby and her toothpaste friends
>Webby and her toothpaste friends
Webby's relationship with her friends is still okay, and that was actually a good aspect of the Ducktales reboot. The only bigger problem was that there was too much focus on Webby instead of other significant characters and that Webby ended up getting everything.
Whenever Webby's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "where's Webby?"
It never really seemed like it was much of a kids show. It was far too angry cynical, with nonstop references to early 90s things that no kid would get. It felt like an Adult Swim series on Disney for some reason.
Yeah, the problem also just lines with.. I don't think kids care as much about "silly animal people adventures in animal world" now as they did back then and I don't think trying to pivot towards an overarching 2010s storytelling style was gonna fix that.
The problem with reboots and revivals of 80s and 90s kids properties is that you're marketing more to parents than kids and even parents who watch stuff with their kids are gonna wanna try to get into what their kids like and just directly show them the original when they can. Unless it's a major longrunning franchise, you aren't gonna bridge that gap.
Is there even a way you can make "silly animal people adventures in animal world" nowadays?
Worked for Zootopia and Bluey. The only thing stopping anyone is just making it in the first place.
>Why wasn't the Ducktalkes reboot
You mean Webbytales?
Pretty sure you mean Webbytales.
it was gay and homosexualy
saved
>Make a series that's just Scrooge, Donald, and Della and no one else going on actual adventures
Would have been better then 95% of the episodes we got
Too much competition.
Because my ego got destroyed by the Latina duck, just as her creator envisioned. I haven't recovered since
>Ducktales 2017 got a Disney theme park attraction (and one half of another)
>Something only four other shows have ever done (three of which are defunct), and Ducktales 1987 isn’t one of them
There is zero way you could argue against this show being a success
Ducktales 2017 was mostly promoted on social networks as well as through the sale of various items. There were even Ducktales 2017 comics on sale, but due to lower demand they pulled it. Although it didn't attract me as much as other comics.
They wanted to flesh it out with comic book variants, but in the end it all seemed too superficial and tasteless, but good bait for comic book fans. Still the animation was ok but the style was terrible in Ducktales 2017.
the original was only popular because of the great theme song and great character design
reboot theme and character design is duck turds
Or people just like fun adventures?
The original was also the first time a studio in the 80s spent a large amount of money on a TV cartoon, Ducktales had higher quality animation in 1987 than basically anything new coming out at the time.
Nah Ducktales was popular because its production quality was fricking insane for 1987. Everything from the music to animation to art direction was basically unheard of for a syndicated television cartoon at the time. It's cited as the first step towards the 90s animation renaissance because it proved that big budget television animation could be profitable. Seriously watch any episode of the first season of Ducktales and compare it to other cartoons from 1987 or earlier, it's nuts how huge the gap in quality is.
they also had nice butt shots
fake and gay. post a webm.
Old TV series have a special quality to them that they just attract viewers because that was just what was on and people watched what was on.
Everything now in the streaming era is people keep to things that they specifically want to watch and rarely bother giving things a chance unless it is exactly what they want to see. There is no leaving the tv on and just watching what happens to be on, until you start to get into it and like it.
Afternoon cartoons were very much this. They were to a lot of people what happened to be on, and people slowly go into them.
The animation. Original series had them looking like Huey Dewey and Louie do. Remake was filled with flat tweening tings that didn't even have the same feeling of depth. The thick black outlines were also unbecoming. It's just flat stamps from a cheap internet cartoon .
Even the title lacks that col gradient!
The remake should have been about OC ducks in Duckburg. I think the style and animation were passable, but were tacked onto the wrong property.
As a europoor kid I obediently watched the original Ducktales dubbed in my language, but was let down because Donald barely appeared. It was just these side characters I didn't care for.
80s cartoons didn't have to compete with the internet for attention. It's not the only reason of course, but it is A reason.
Woo-oo
Unlike the original it had legitimate competition for attention in the demographics it sought
never watched the reboot because I thought it looked ugly
It was less DuckTales and more sitcom, then it turned into "Disney afternoon cameos but not really"
The 80s had less cartoons and sitting down to watch TV was a treat and not your current babysitter
80s had significantly higher competition for timeslots. Everyone wanted the 5PM on weekdays slop or the 10AM on Saturday slot. So everything made for those times were higher quality, and each studio made sure their output was attractive enough to network and advertiser executives.
Post it.
The 80s show was groundbreaking for its time in terms of production values for a television cartoon. It wasnt theatrical quality but it may as well have been compared to the other junk on the air. The new one just looks like every other cheap-o Jay Wardy piece of trash today. Gotta spend money to make money, or innovate in some way. DuckTales (new version) does neither.
Because they had the typical writers trying to force their own ideas no matter what, right down to b***hing about it online when Disney out their foot down.
If people talked about loving LOT3C more then how much they hate DT17 we could have got the momentum going on that
It's easier to hate.
Dunno. Don't care. I enjoyed both.
I hate how hard it is to find people that genuinely enjoy things in modern fandoms. Why is damn near every thread on this board a bunch of people b***hing and arguing?
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But even if you enjoyed the show, you must at least understand the parts people would have gripes with, no? I feel the threads tend to have genuine discussions about the flaws, of course with some anons in-between just b***hing for b***hing but not enough to derail.
I have my gripes, sure. I just find it sad that there's so little room for enjoyment on this board, the threads are dominated by people attacking one another, attacking shows/comics, and /misc/shittery.
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
Cinemaphile was never good, but it legitimately used to be better.
shit animation and the nephews sounding like 30 somethings. I'd rather watch quack pack than this shit. at least it looked nice.
>I'd rather watch quack pack than this shit
It's the only animated series where they've done a good job of portraying the relationship between Donald and his nephews as a father-son relationship without being based on the comics (you have more of that in the comics).
I remember when some of us thought the Della origin in the show matching the comics meant they were gonna make deeper dives and bring the duck comic characters over.
It amounted to what, Fethry, Della, Matilda, Fergus and Downy?
And a really lame take on Rockerduck, I suppose?
The nieces were technically in the show, but barely(beyond Webby, and we only learned that at the end).
Even as a 10yo kid I watched ducks for scrooge and maybe donald, not for the fukkin nephews
1 flash-friendly art (sucky, too angular).
2: While this version is drawing on classic disney characters like crazy (and not sucking while doing it...even acknowledging Talespin was set in an earlier time period than Ducktales...but Don Karnage is oddly young. DK the 2nd, maybe?), everybody's hooked on the 87 cartoon. Nice that this version put lyrics to the nes game's Moon stage.
It's cowardly trash made by coast bound adult children.
>Generally helpful but largely identical and kept to the background to act as fact checkers
AMJ are funny and helpful sidekicks, where you can tell the personality differences between them, who are endearing when on screen but don't overshadow who the three protagonists should be
They were done very solidly here
>as wiener checkers
Penis inspection day at the cabana is important
>Penis inspection day at the cabana
Anon do not get me into this idea
>"I hope I get a good grade." Panchito enthused as June stroked the rooster's wiener
>June smiled up at him as she continued her work. "Don't worry, we'll know if you're adventure ready in no time."
>Jose's tongue lolled, his panting the only response to May cradling and fondling his balls. "Not that there's any need to rush things. We need to be thorough. You guys are way overdue."
>April mumbled an affirmative, her beak bobbing in Donald's lap with happy little moans, her own hand between her thighs
>"No. No, no, no." The sailor was pressed far back into the couch eyes shut
>Xandra watched the scene with intent interest. "The girls are right. It's important to make sure your bodies are ready for anything. Not just your mind and muscles. The old Caballeros never went on a quest before passing inspection."
>"Oh Daisy!" Donald bemoaned
>his hands pushed the young duckling's head into his groin, her happy squeal cutoff by thick gulps as Donald pumped into her beak
>Jose gasped as he spurt streaks of white all over May's face
>She smirked, wiping a thick string of spunk off her bill's edge. "Someone's excited."
>"You can do it, Panchito." June encouraged
>Panchito giggled as he came with powerful throbs into delicate hands
>Gathering the musky liquid in her palms June lapped at the seed. "Tasty and little spicy."
>Xandra loomed over the bunch. "Great work guys. I say you pass with flying colors."
>The sated Caballeros let out a drowsy cheer
>"Now it's my turn."
>Golden armor fell away and the men's eyes bulged their manhoods already weakly twitching in anticipation
>Gathering to the side, the nieces savored their pearly desserts, May and June tending to their own needs
>"I can't believe they fell for that." June said.
>"Works everytime." May drawled.
>"April licked her chops. "Better than Aunt Daisy's Clam Inspection Day."
Exactly. If it was the nephews, they'd insist on butting in everywhere, sabotaging Donald's plans, and being more trouble than they're worth.
That does lead to the question, if Disney put their backing into LOT3C instead of DT would have they forced AMJ to in essence be the "main characters" the way they did with HDLW.
The cast is so small everyone appears in every episode anyway so that wouldn't be an issue the way the way vast DT cast had issues with
Incidentally I'm curious about who the team working on Cabs was. Because the show had a general better sense of, well I guess the word I want is professionalism, compared to the douchy sarcastic millennial knobs who worked on ducktales.
Not really. Donald's nephews would be very useful to the Caballeros especially giving them advice from the Junior Woodchuck Guidebook and would be great helpers. Like in the OG Ducktales or in the comics. In fact, they are also the best helpers to their uncle, only most people don't appreciate that.
Matt Danner and his people (especially animator Bob McKnight) did The Legend of The Three Caballeros series very well. The original idea was for Donald's nephews to be in that series as sidekicks, but the problem was that at the same time another work was being done on the Ducktales reboot and that Donald's nephews would definitely be there, so as not to copy, they took Daisy's nieces and made them very Okay. Danner himself said in one of the podcasts.
Well, now the problem was that they were making it at the same time as the Ducktales reboot and when the Ducktales reboot was first shown, Disney management supposedly hid that series (I think one of them explained on Twitter) so that it wouldn't compete with Ducktales 2017 to them. They wouldn't even know about that series if it wasn't allegedly leaked on social media, so Disney put it on Disney Plus after more than a year, but somehow still denies its existence, which I think is stupid. Unfortunately most people still don't know about it or just don't care and the damage is already done.
(me)
>made them very Okay
I mean very perfect. But well, my point certainly stands.
>Translation: Girls please frick me
since this is basically /DonaldDuck/ general, i figured Id ask this here. Does anyone know where online I can read the Al Taliferro Donald Duck comic strip?
Ask for them in the Win'O threads
Comics online.
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