Why were people so hard on this movie? I actually enjoyed it.
 Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68 |
 Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68 |
Why were people so hard on this movie? I actually enjoyed it.
Why were people so hard on this movie? I actually enjoyed it.
Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68 |
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68 |
both this and prince of persia deserved trilogies
they were great fun action family films
dont know why they got hated on
both had a respectable male lead actor
and the female actress was hot too
decent story, action, and cool settings
baka
>prince of persia
I have never watched it, the trailer makes it look like generic shit.
Sell me on it anon.
FYI I really like john carter, well apart from some of the shitty actors in it like the villain and woman are pretty shit acting in it.
I also liked the first remake of clash of the titans.
well i think if you liked john carter, you'll enjoy prince of persia
both are very similar
I just finished watching PoP. The editing was absolutely awful, worse than a college film project. Extremely jarring.
Yeah - neither were shakespeare but they were both fun. Easily could’ve had legs if the studio gave them a chance.
kino of a film
It's okay. I wish they straight adapted the original book, it's practically a screenplay anyway. The changes they made were stupid.
>The changes they made were stupid.
I like scientist swordwoman Dejah, but she still should have been more naked.
They did an alright job but I ripping off Josey Wales and making him le brooding reluctant warrior was a bad choice when in the books he’s a bad motherfricker and he knows it
>it's practically a screenplay anyway
What does that even mean? All films are screenplays.
no fricking idea. cool movie. moronic title.
they were too big of gays to just add "of Mars" to the title, might have made the difference between it flopping and doing ok?
Mars Needs Moms bombed and Disney morons thought it was because people don't like Mars so they removed the bad word from the title.
these same morons didnt greenlight tron 3 because tomorrowland flopped, so moron Iger thought "wow live action original films just dont do well"
>he didn't greenlight a sequel to a shitty sequel because unrelated original flopped
Tron 3 was greenlit. They cancelled it before their first week of filming.
>Mars Needs Moms bombed and Disney morons thought it was because people don't like Mars
For the life of me I cannot understand how people who make these kinds of decisions get anywhere in life and achieve even a modicum of power.
probably by agreeing with people more powerful than them
Nepotism
Judaism
That sounds moronic enough to actually be true
people thought it ripped off the rip offs
>people thought it ripped off the rip offs
This
I liked it too, I read the first three books afterward because of it. It's classic escapist fantasy with a very thin scientific paint job. b***hes simply would not get the appeal though, being fake and trifling at all times and whatnot, so ofc the movie had to be changed for their sake, and suffered as a consequence.
>waiting 60 seconds to make this post
>Why were people so hard on this movie?
Because they were told to by critics who hated the fact that the hero was a confederate
i watched it when i had no internet and slept on a couch. smoked a shit ton of weed. not bad.
>i enjoyed it = immune to criticisms
i'm really happy for you, and i'mma let you finish, but The Phantom (1996) was the best pulp-to-screen adaptation of all time
doubt it since it probably doesn't have a qback owning aliens with football
it seems less like this a movie designed to make money as them rewarding Andrew Stanton for all the money he made them by letting him do his dream project, and things just got out of hand
it flip flops between being decent and complete shit.
the martian israelites lying about being immortal and then being slaughtered was kino.
Aren't the original books really bloody and sexual? The fact that this was a PG-13 Disney movie doomed it from the start.
some scenes are brutal, but not very descriptive.
sexual I'd say no
the women are usualy naked or almost naked but it's not like there are pornographic descriptions of intercourse.
yah it was a lot of gun, cute puppers
The name was too confusing for the american audience.
tarzan and flash gordon are bywords, but nobody knows who the frick john carter is
shoulda stuck with "The Princess of Mars"
The main cultural legacy of John Carter is probably creating the concept of alien biology rendering someone superhuman on another world, later popularized by Superman.
Because it was a bad movie
it was pure soul, so the npcs hated it
because it's shit
It's bascially a case of this coming out too late. Other movies have more or less scavenged all the good stuff from the books.
It was a decent movie on its own, not a great adaptation of John Carter, but a decent enough of a movie. But it didn't really bring anything new to the table thanks of being neutered badly.
Personally I didn't mind they gave more agencey to Dejah Thoris, they did manage to turn her into a better character than she was in the books (in where she's marely a excuse on why Carter kills a tonne of people the same way Jane is a blank character in the Tarzan stories), but I do think they failed to portray the Martian cultures in a proper fashion and turned them a bit bland and boring.
Oh, and Taylor Kitch was a wrong choise for Carter.
I remember watching this in a cinema with my dad when we were on holiday overseas in 2012. We were the only ones in the Cinema. He’s not into sci-fi but he liked it.
I liked it as well but some of the design choices were weird and/or weak. Like the footsoldier guys. Those were not strong designs. Stuff like that hurts movies pretty bad.
Literally who
All the disney pathos ruined it.
There's no way to do a PG-13 adaptation of any of the Barsoom books. It's like trying to do a PG-13 adaptation of Debbie Does Dallas. There should have been some major league record setting nudity by Dejah Thoris. The books are essentially the written version of pornography and snuff films.
Examples?
Becasue I don't really see it
Lots of blood and nudity. Red martians fior example are a warrior race, who also doesn't wear any clothes. All they really wear is some israeliteelry and harnesses for weapons, but other than that, they go around naked.
Battle scenes in Burroughs' books are very bloody as well. Carter kills heaps of people and is basically covered in blood from head to toe.
Battle scenes are brutal but not very descriptive, except here and there. If you can show a normal war in a pg13 movie you can show JC's wars.
Nothing is lost bey removing a superspecific scene when a green monster almos rips apart another green monster using a tusk.
Everyone is described as wearing only israeliteels, ornaments and weapons, and that's all. I doesn't go into details or insists about it all the times.
The movie should have dared more on that front, but it didn't shit the bed.
Nothing in John Carter is more hardcore than you average violent nonmodern action movie. It's not like Alita that was fricking neutered and babyfied by making the setting looking like a Disney version of Mexico while it should look like a cyber version of Fist of the North Star
Is Dejah wearing only israeliteels here? Hint: no.
Dejah being hot and naked the entire time is half the appeal of the Barsoom novels. And Disney ruined it. It should have been live action Heavy Metal but with even more nudity and gore. Instead we got a busted-face 30something who doesn't even show breasts.
Forgot pic
This is not a hot, naked, young woman. It's a mid, clothed, middle aged woman. That ain't satisfactory for Dejah Thoris.
>That
>Mid
Your gay is showing
your post-00 adolescence is showing
Go to bed Zack Snyder
Lynn Collins is actually very hot, btw
>Lynn Collins is actually very hot, btw
Thirsty zoomer with poor taste identified.
She was too old and she has a busted face. Her body is meh and the gross tattoos they added to her were hideous. And she spends the entire movie fully clothes. That ain't Dejah Thoris.
>She was too old and she has a busted face. Her body is meh and the gross tattoos they added to her were hideous. And she spends the entire movie fully clothes. That ain't Dejah Thoris.
>t. homosexual
Lynn Collins is gross. She looks like a worn out street hooker.
meanwhile your mother looks like a worn out man to woman street hooker
Ok Ms. Collins, you can get off the internet now
>Go to bed Zack Snyder
WTF does this have to do with the conversation? Seriously? I agree Lynn is hot as frick and like Snyder films (I wish Lynn was Silk Spectre in Watchmen instead of Wolverine Origins)
>ZACK SNYDER : "I had a buddy who tried getting me into ”normal” comic books, but I was all like, ”No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me."
That hack fricking sucks more than Uwe Boll and all his movies are dogshit.
>The movie should have dared more on that front, but it didn't shit the bed.
John Carter absolutely shit the bed. One of the worst performing big budget movies in history.
I wasn't talking about commercial success, dumbo
The movie was bad. The leads were uncharismatic. The plot was convoluted as hell and made no sense. And the reasons you'd go to see a Barsoom movie weren't present: ultraviolence and ultra hot, constantly naked women.
no it wasn't homosexual, it was great, nobody cares about your npc "opinion"
I wouldn’t say they’re porn. Dejah is naked all the time, but so is literally every Martian, even John while he’s there. It doesn’t describe her body at all other than saying she’s attractive, she’s just naked when they meet and John just accepts this as their culture and moves on. There’s no descriptions of sex either, although I seem to recall an alien threatening to rape one of the human characters in some books.
>although I seem to recall an alien threatening to rape one of the human characters in some books.
A green martian warlord wanted to torture her and then send her corpse to her city-sate to show how cruel he was, and was going to rape her to begin with.
It's really good, but people are sheeple. Critics like to shit on expensive movies, especially if they're the most expensive to date, like John Carter was, or Waterworld, or Cutthroat Island. Regular people think critics are like gods and believe every word they say.
Cutthroat Island is great.
>hexapodal lifeforms
So cameron stole from here.
>AI, give me Lucy Liu but whiter
She would make the perfect Baroness in a live action G.I. Joe
>She would make the perfect Baroness in a live action G.I. Joe
Antje Traue also.
this and Tron flopping are the reason why Disney didn't dare to make new things for so long.
In the books all the martians are naked. Imagine how much better it would have been if they’d kept this. Dejah’s breasts and ass are out in every scene and all of John’s fight scenes are him slashing up aliens and soldiers with his wiener flapping around. Kino.
No, but seriously, the books are hard to adapt properly because the author jammed a ton of stuff into very few pages. Part of the fun of pulp sci-fi is how much crazy shit happens in a short amount of reading time. There are passages in A Princess of Mars where he fights two separate battles in like six pages of text. You can’t translate that frenetic pace into film. Or at least they didn’t hear.
Also there’s a certain melodrama in those books that doesn’t translate well to modern audiences. John and Dejah literally just fall in love at first sight. John gets an alien dog and within three pages is willing to risk his life to save it because his sense of honor demands it. That kind of character just doesn’t exist anymore.
>John gets an alien dog and within three pages is willing to risk his life to save it
I think that would still resonate with people.
I guess but it’s not even like John Wick where it was a cute puppy and a gift from his wife. It’s a hideous alien mutt he’s known for like two days, but it did protect him so when one of the Tharks tries to kill it, John just automatically draws his sword and attacks despite the Thark being a nine foot tall beastly warrior. He’s from a strict honor culture, which is why he fits in so well on Mars. I don’t think that kind of character is popular anymore.
>I don’t think that kind of character is popular anymore
what does that even mean, popularity today is determined by the social networks and media held by a handful of oligarchs.
human soul is a completely different thing and it will always resonate with heroes
This.
Cattle keep repeating what few ideologues say online, but they aren't different humans from the onse from 20, 100 or 3000 years ago.
Heroes and larger than life characters are what your nature crave.
Bump
Dejah Thoris is meant to be naked literally all the time except for some israeliteels. Art like this and the stuff you see on the pulp novels or comic books is actually making an effort to cover her up a bit.
They took that character, for whom nudity is second nature, and put her in armor where you see a belly button and some thigh
Also there should be fight scenes every five minutes with lots of blood
If you’re gonna adapt pulp novels, adapt them right or frick off. They were popular because of the breasts and blood
Ok schizo.
How the frick to those nip covers stay on? Piercings? Suction? Glue?
She's alien royalty with 1000 year lifespan, born from an egg.
Aint gotta explain shit
John Carter's saliva, I guess
100% this
/tv/cucks don't understand the pulp novel world.
Good luck finding a production company willing to put a nudist character on the big screen, anon. Remember how much of a clusterfrick Watchmen was re: Dr. Manhattan?
terrible marketing. I remeber passing on this because of the trailers and all the promotional stuff, but then when I watched it years after the fact I realized I probably would have liked it. The generic title didn't help either
>that forgettable flick that flopped 10 years ago? yep, I'm thinking kino
why is tveddit like this?
because people who watched it when they were 12 are now 22
Forgettable is an acceptable take. It was family friendly and all that.
The rest is bias derived from saying tons of sci fi inspired by John Carter before John Carter itself.
But since the movie isn't broked in any conceivable way, it's perfectly legitimate to like it.
Box office is irrelevant btw
This ain't SW prequelshit. It's a decent movie.
Expect Youtube essays on this "forgotten gem" coming over the next few months followed by redditors and twitter addicts saying it was their favorite movie when they were in their early teens.
That would be the usual circus, but the movie isn't bad at all
Becareful with the ~~*Therns*~~, they worship ~~*Tzeentch*~~.
it is a great movie, too bad it had the worst marketing campaign in history
>trailer just shows man jumps like some sort of human flea and is super strong
I have always wondered what happens to people that make thw wrong calls and end up losing millions? they get fired, end up picking up the garbage at the studio, or what?
>it is a great movie, too bad it had the worst marketing campaign in history
Marketing was awful and misleading. If some person involved said they didn't want people to see it I would believe him
>they get fired, end up picking up the garbage at the studio, or what?
I wish, but somehow I doubt. Entertainemnt industr is incestuous and failed bonobos fail upward most of the times. Especially in current era if they have "the right opinion"
Here's an idea
give it a another chance with starting over again
bring back Andrew Stanton as director
put Austin Butler as lead
give actual shit about marketing
profit ???
Avantika Vandanapu as Dejah?
no.
brunette Sydney Sweeney would be more suitable
Not with those melted eyes
>my eyes are down here!
Need a curry brat
>Why were people so hard on this movie?
I don't remember people hating it. It's just that not a lot of people went to see it, mostly because they didn't do a great job marketing it.