Why were the fremen not doing all this cool shit and putting up a fight before Paul Atreides arrived?
I fail to understand what Paul brought to the table apart from him being their prophesied leader. They seem to already have all the shit and knowledge Paul used.
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Yeah, weird
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Black folk need a white saviour to tie their shoes
TE Lawrence trained arab militia in demolition techniques, advised/led numerous cavalry raids, hired mercenaries with British gold, and, perhaps most significantly, navigated and negotiated the weird Arab tribal politics to aggitate for a nationalist revolt.
>perhaps most significantly,
no,
the most significant thing about him was he was a RAGING homosexual who paid teenage male soldiers to whip him as an "endurance test"
The British had a real homosexual problem within their orientalist subculture, it's true.
Without an unifying factor they were divided in different tribes doing their own thing
>Without an unifying factor
so a foreign invader who pushes you to hide underground wasnt enough huh
Harkonnen and the various other offworld stewards of Arrakis actually didn't excessively frick with the Fremen. The Harkonnen would hunt them occasionally for sport, but they didn't have a policy of genocide until the very end.
He showed up with superior battle tactics and was able to teach them to the fremen.
what superior battle tactic do you need to direct several giant worms againt anything that stands in your way?
Nukes to take out defenses
fair enough
still doesnt explain why they werent putting up a better fight
movie was still kino
and ending make it seem like there will be a dunc 3
In the books, the Fremen kept more to themselves and weren't doing these raiding tactics because it would have drawn too much attention. If they attacked spice harvesters, it would have been only along the southern limits, made to look like worm attacks or desert perils, and only done to discourage more expansion into the southern hemisphere.
They have shields and lasers from the raids
It's not really a very good book. I honestly have no idea how it got such a huge following. I guess people just think the setting is neat.
I personnaly apreciated how grey Paul is.
We know his true intentions and how he is manipulating everybody.
The women cult at the core is neat.
The different cultures are neat.
The blur between realism and supernatural is neat. For example the worm piss that really gives superpower.
I loved how well the tension between thought and instinct is portrayed with Paul, Jessica and Alia.
In the movie, nothing.
In the books he trains them into the forbidden martial art of the bene geserit which is a gamechanger in a world where most of the fighting is hand to hand.
I think he also uses prescience to help make battle plans in the book. This is never shown in the movie, but one or two of the characters mention it. What ever happened to show, don't tell, Dennis??
Cause Dennis wanted to act like Paul was a false messiah and not actually the Kwisatz Haderach nor the Lisan Al Gaib
what is prescience?
in dune they lost their science but they're on the way to developing it again which is why they use swords. But because they still don't have science they call their technology PREscience
It has to do with being prescient
>I fail to understand what Paul brought to the table apart from him being their prophesied leader. They seem to already have all the shit and knowledge Paul used.
Paul directed the Fremen to an ultimate goal, which was stopping all spice production, not just attacking the harkonnens or driving them out.
...which would then force the emperor to intervene and fall into Paul's trap.
Have you seen them?
They need a white guy to get their shit together
If you don't crush the wall, no reason to spend good men on a performative attack.
Paul got nukes (plus Jessica probably trained people in her ways, which are pretty weird, like bro WEIRD but probably it ended in some deleted scene).
But mostly the nukes.