The problem is, Prometheus is actively asking you to not to turn off our brains. If presents itself as a movie with serious ideas so you end up noticing all the stupid stuff.
I don't think he's ever said he hates religion, but he's not religious. Ironically, he's one of the very VERY few filmmakers who actually portrays faith realistically in his movies.
Spaight (Dune guy) and Ridley had a script that wasn't moronic. Then Fox suits decided Lindelhof was required to 'script doctor' it, and what we got was radically bowdlerized and dumbed down. Walla.
I liked how the only skill the cartographer exhibited was throwing the magic balls in the air
they took the guy on a deep space mission and were going to pay him lots of money for what any janitor could have done without breaking their shit scraping routine
if you think about it all Weyland needed was David. David can do everything by himself, including run the ship.
So the crew was obviously expendable, a reoccurring plot in all of the Alien movies.
Yeah, she thinks it’s a waste of time, she says at the start she personally hired most of them, it’s made clear they’re in it for the money and don’t know why they’re there even before you take into account the top secret real reason they’re there, and she’s visibly horrified when she realises Shaw and her boyf were actually right. But for some reason people follow their head canon that this was some global mission led by the best of the best, etc. Media literacy is getting worse.
it's just bad writing >this is a waste of time, so I'm gonna make sure it's a waste of MY time
whatever
It wouldn't matter if anything was "cleared up". moronic idiotic writing is still moronic and idiotic whether they have someone announce it on screen or not. They knew that too and it's why they took most of it out, so they pretend to be mysterious.
If the original Alien came out in the age of the internet people would be picking it apart too. So the company knew and put a robot onboard right before they left? But surely they found out from the unexpected beacon? Why even send these truckers if it’s so important? Ash is the only one charged with bringing back a specimen, but doesn’t leave the ship? Of course not, the script needs him to be onboard so he can ignore the chain of command because otherwise nobody would let the crew back onboard. But what if the search party never found anything? He doesn’t have the power to overrule anyone and insist they go back. Why did Kane look in the egg? Why would these people willingly split up repeatedly? Alien is obviously better than Prometheus, but we can do the same thing.
the obvious plot in Alien was Weyland already knew of the alien.
They sent the truckers there as a sick experiment to see what would happen if you exposed a ship crew to it.
Aliens was the same thing with a colony and marines
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Aliens is practically a remake in terms of story structure, it’s nuts how lazy Cameron is every time he writes a sequel. Masks it with more action and noise, but he always just follows the original beats.
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you buffoons can never decide if you want to whine that a sequel is too different or complain that it's too much the same. You'll definitely find a reason to be unhappy though
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It’s the thing with sequels, it has to be similar enough while also being different enough. There’s a logic to what Cameron does, but once you get past the surface excitement there’s a disappointment to seeing how closely he follows the template (Ripley has to find her little sidekick and escape in a shuttle before the big explosion, oh no the alien got onboard, Ripley locks herself away to put on a suit so she can fight it and flush it out the airlock, etc). I find it interesting in a way.
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No, they didn't know. They knew of a non-human signal, and that's it. The order was literally just "if there is something there, bring it back, and it's more important than the crew".
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It's literally in the film that they knew. I don't know why this myth they didn't know persists
They literally explain in the movie it was rerouted because it detected the signal because that's standard protocol.
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But Ash was assigned to the ship before they left. It’s… muddled.
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So? He (and lots of company androids) are probably there for any one of countless contingencies. "Bring back any weird alien shit you find regardless of if it will kill the rest of the crew" is exactly the kind of order a scumbag corporation would give. He also probably had orders to prioritize preserving the ships space-oil refinery over the crews lives too.
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Apply that defence to one of the new ones and people would be yelling about headcanon, plot holes, questionable writing etc as the film simply didn’t clear it up.
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How can you argue this, the order is to get a lifeform, how the frick do they know theres a lifeform?
The order isn't being rewritten as the movie goes on. Thats the order, reroute the root and get the lifeform from the start. Which means they MUST know about it beforehand.
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They know, David contacted them after the events of Alien: Covenant.
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Arrogant dumb frick, not a surprise you like prometheus.
>So the company knew and put a robot onboard right before they left?
Yes moron. At least on general terms they knew the zone had presence.
How fricking stupid are you?
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And they figured the best way to handle this incredibly vital and profitable mission was to let some intergalactic truck drivers mess around unsupervised and just hope it played out? Then they just didn’t bother trying again for 57 years, despite setting up a colony a few miles away? Great writing in this series.
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You fricking moron. You cannot bring those things directly to earth you must smuggle them. Is a major point in the first two movies.
You Prometheus tards are finally mask off. Pretentious cretins with no brain or memory or logical thinking.
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Cite examples from the films.
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Are you moronic? Don't you remember Burke?
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Burke was going to cover his tracks by killing the people who knew what he did while bringing back specimens. The films don’t have some ongoing narrative about hiding things from space customs.
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This series has always been B movie material filmed as if they were A movies. It’s literally how they described the original when making it.
Grasping at straws. Especially here >The films don’t have some ongoing narrative about hiding things from space customs.
If this was the case, Burke would have just grabbed one and went back with a spaceship.
You are intellectually dishonest AND a moron.
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You’ve literally been unable to give any specific examples.
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>Burke >Not that >I explain you why you are a fricking imbecile >You dishonestly ignore it
There is no cure for you because you have no honesty.
Prometheus is written like shit. Get over it.
The crew was space miners, not people directly selected for a unique mission.
The crew mostly would follow the procedure, the robot broke it directly (albeit Lambert was emotional).
Kane is a fricking space engineer not a biologist. If prometheus had the map guy being moronic with the snake and the biologist being lost, part of its moronation would be mitigated. They really, REALLY didn't give a frick.
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The actual mission in Prometheus is to have the robot lead Weyland to a living engineer. The rest is largely for appearances.
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To reiterate, that's stupid and a worthless movie unworthy of an audience.
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They still need those people, hiring morons made no sense. How did they know how they would exactly find the situation once there?
Nah you are trying to justify the unjustifiable.
by that logic, its like that today too. i have a bsee and i get paid for literally reading meters and chill all day. i busted my ass in school so i wouldnt bust my ass at work.
>cartographer
He's a geologist. He literally spells it out when he turns around to leave everywhere else (and gets lost). >Look. I'm just a geologist. I like rocks. I love ROCKS. Now it's clear you two don't give a shit about rocks. What you do seem to care about is gigantic dead bodies. And I don't really have anything to contribute to the GIGANTIC DEAD BODY ARENA! I want to go back to the ship, if you don't mind.
The mapping is him using "mine pups" to find "anything interesting." After releasing them, you can hear him giving verbal reports on what rocks the pups are reading (although the only one I can hear clearly is "decomposed granite"). It really does seem like his only contribution is being a mine pup technician, and he realizes that too.
As for getting lost, it's still bullshit, but we don't know what he can actually see, considering he's using an arm band connected to the ship instead of an actual on-sight terminal. All we get from him is hesitating at an intersection, looking at his arm, and saying, "Uhm... Pups are saying... this way," which leads them to the room with clean atmosphere (the actual ship). He might not even be able to see the full map that Prometheus sees. That is the only instance of him reading the pups in the movie. When the pups pick up the lifeform, the captain has to describe it and its position to him; it's not something he can check on his arm. It's bullshit though because even if he can't see it, you'd still expect him to be checking with Prometheus on the right direction when they head out first, not be radio silent through the storm warning and say nothing until after the storm begins.
The cope is that they were high. We still see the geologist hooking up his helmet, but supposedly in the original edit he hooked up the biologist too, and the added oxygen made the weed even more powerful.
Then their shenanigans were meant to be a couple of potheads running around alternately being terrified and fascinated by the things they were discovering.
don't remember if its a deleted scene (filmed) or just cut from the script entirely, but Weyland's daughter intentionally hired morons to try and sabotage the mission out of spite.
Yeah, she thinks it’s a waste of time, she says at the start she personally hired most of them, it’s made clear they’re in it for the money and don’t know why they’re there even before you take into account the top secret real reason they’re there, and she’s visibly horrified when she realises Shaw and her boyf were actually right. But for some reason people follow their head canon that this was some global mission led by the best of the best, etc. Media literacy is getting worse.
>But for some reason people follow their head canon that this was some global mission led by the best of the best
First of all it's very clearly a private funded mission, secondly concidering the fortune needed to go there, in style - you'd assume they would pay enough to lure some quality individuals. Of course not the best, on a risky long journey.
This film was a cliche pulp fiction style Archeological adventure and dig plot. >Rich butthole pays for an archeological expedition >gathers a bunch of "experts" >find the treasure >rich butthole reveals hes a moustache twirling villain and now he gas the treasure he doesn't need anyone else and sacrifices them to the movie monsters
I don't understand the practice of veteran directors outsourcing the script writing to idiot gen Xers. You would think they would hire an accomplished scifi writer or other novelist.
It must be some gen Xer nepo thing
because vickers hired them to sabotage the mission this is made VERY clear. >vickers: Those of you who I hired personally hello again >weylad: Surprised to see you here since you were trying so hard to stop me succeeding in this?? >Well, you fricking bastard dad, if you get immortal life i'll never inherit the damn company will I? It's my fricking turn. So I am trying to make things go a certain way you see yeah?
I can't understand if you only watched the movie once, its all happening fast. But if you watch it again turns out all your "gripes" are answered
what's your point, that doesn't make it any less ridiculous
they're not people who make mistakes, they're going through insane motions because the writer didn't know how to be clever about it
besides, budget Tom Hardy is there because of Shaw, who was there on merit
he's king moron
Can people not grasp the concept of a movie's plot and characters being so stupid that it's not worth watching? You can have you character stand up and shout "I am making this stupid action because of this stupid reason" and it's still fricking stupid and not a good story. I don't give a shit if they explained dozens of things in some deleted scenes and cut parts of the script, everything about prometheus is still dumb as hell.
The inconsistency is key. Human error, hubris, idiotic ignorance in the face of something beyond our control etc has been a part of this series quite consistently. In every instalment, in fact. But people for some reason decided all these characters had to be flawless geniuses.
Taking their helmets off genuinely didn’t cause problems for them at any point because it was in fact safe to do so.
Did they wear any safety gear in Aliens? The colonists could have easily been wiped out by something in the air, but they don’t even go in wearing masks…
I did. I trying to fathom why anyone would think that a crew specifically hired for this mission wouldn't have expertise in their fields. what kind of bullshit excuses are you making?
It is a given that astronauts and people filling roles on a highly expensive, technical, lengthy, risky trip are experts. Especially for this perfectionist Weyland. The characters existing at all is declaring them to be experts. It's you people who have to justify why 'actually they're not experts, they're incompetent morons unfit for their jobs, and here's why that's ok!'
Weyland didn’t hire them. His daughter who thought it was a waste of time while waiting for her inheritance did. And the people who took the gig didn’t even know what job they’d accepted. This wasn’t some noble mission to save humanity with different nations offering up their best and brightest.
Because they hired idiots basically. They very much outright state that at the beginning of the briefing. These are people who left their home planet on an insane death mission and they were only picked because they had nothing left to lose on Earth and were outliers in their fields.
>wow Ridley I just realized we have people doing moronic shit like in a B-movie >no worries we shoot this scene and add it to the beginning it will set things straight
Ok moron
The scientists were moronic in order to reflect the reality of scientists. It's for immersion.
You wouldn't get it because you are a goy cattle and you believe everything scientists tell you. Now, go take another COVID booster shot like a good goy.
You know how when you apply for a corporate job there are like at least six pages of personality questionnaires to weed out potential liabilities? Apparently that does not exist in the Alien universe.
I dunno, was there some underlying theme about the arrogance and ignorance of our species and how it could lead to our complete destruction, with even our own creations branding us unworthy?
>We have multiple crew trapped in a spooky alien structure, and we detected some signal that might be heading their direction. Eh, I'm sure they'll be fine. Now is a perfect time to ask the cute blonde if she's a robot. Pretty sure that'll get her to frick me.
the worst thing about these films is not once but twice the homosexual writers put in their gay as shit cuck fantasys. Completely takes you out of the films, i bet they thought it was the best shit in the world.
The second times its fricking Hussie Smolett the fricking gay hate crime hoaxer no less, lmao.
Scientists and academics in general can be incredibly moronic, but not in their specific field. The most famous ones often say something stupid about a field they don't know out of arrogance. Humanities people are even worse btw.
But see
The crew was space miners, not people directly selected for a unique mission.
The crew mostly would follow the procedure, the robot broke it directly (albeit Lambert was emotional).
Kane is a fricking space engineer not a biologist. If prometheus had the map guy being moronic with the snake and the biologist being lost, part of its moronation would be mitigated. They really, REALLY didn't give a frick.
>If prometheus had the map guy being moronic with the snake and the biologist being lost, part of its moronation would be mitigated.
There is no excuse for this no matter how much you kick and scream anon.
They can be, but someone claiming to be a biologist should know better than to stick his hand in the face of something he knows absolutely nothing about other than looking like a weird alien cobra.
>Hey, Cooper? I get that you want to land on this clearly uninhabitable planet to retrieve Miller's data and possibly her body, but could you maybe land the Ranger a little bit closer to the signal? Between the spacesuits and punishing gravity, walking a mile in shallow water is going to be unnecessarily rough. Thanks, buddy.
I hate Interstellar so much it's unreal. Great theoretical concepts and visualitization wasted on the absolute moronic minds of not one, but two Nolans.
>be highly accomplished and non-moronic scientist >durr let me just spend several years of my prime going on this wild goose chase to accomplish nothing and might not even be able to return from
who? Shaw and her husband were the equivalent of that Hanwiener guy
Their entire thesis depended on spaceship technology being good enough to get them to the planet
It's the movie's fatal flaw. Chalk it up to excitement and a need for the plot to hit the fan. But otherwise this movie is leagues ahead of other contemporary sci-fi. He caved like a b***h and made Covenant sloppy bullshit as a result.
The biologist pissed me off so much.
Some people just make errors and judgements, they make mistakes. You can't chalk up everything to mental moronation because it isn't 2004 anymore.
Because in the future everyone who attends college gets a degree. It's a participation award. We can't exclude anyone.
>just turn your brain off
The problem is, Prometheus is actively asking you to not to turn off our brains. If presents itself as a movie with serious ideas so you end up noticing all the stupid stuff.
the problem is they cut most of the information needed to figure this out
Because heckin science is awesome and its just a cute little snek! Just open your helmet and pet the cute little slither bro
and run only in a straight line.
Because it's literally anti-science and pro religious nonsense (look up Ridley Scott's explanation).d4rwy
Isn't he hard-core atheist that hates religion?
I don't think he's ever said he hates religion, but he's not religious. Ironically, he's one of the very VERY few filmmakers who actually portrays faith realistically in his movies.
Spaight (Dune guy) and Ridley had a script that wasn't moronic. Then Fox suits decided Lindelhof was required to 'script doctor' it, and what we got was radically bowdlerized and dumbed down. Walla.
>Walla
It's "Wakanda". It's french
>Navigator gets lost
>Biologist stars touching any creature he encounters
Yeah
I liked how the only skill the cartographer exhibited was throwing the magic balls in the air
they took the guy on a deep space mission and were going to pay him lots of money for what any janitor could have done without breaking their shit scraping routine
then he immediately starts smoking weed in his space suit
it was tobacco
It's weed. The dork specifically asks if it's tobacco then mohawk makes it clear that it's weed.
just watched the scene again, you're right. I remembered the one guy asking if it was tobacco, but his reaction I entirely forgot. my bad!
if you think about it all Weyland needed was David. David can do everything by himself, including run the ship.
So the crew was obviously expendable, a reoccurring plot in all of the Alien movies.
it's just bad writing
>this is a waste of time, so I'm gonna make sure it's a waste of MY time
whatever
it's more like they cut all the writing that would have cleared up everything in the movie
It wouldn't matter if anything was "cleared up". moronic idiotic writing is still moronic and idiotic whether they have someone announce it on screen or not. They knew that too and it's why they took most of it out, so they pretend to be mysterious.
If the original Alien came out in the age of the internet people would be picking it apart too. So the company knew and put a robot onboard right before they left? But surely they found out from the unexpected beacon? Why even send these truckers if it’s so important? Ash is the only one charged with bringing back a specimen, but doesn’t leave the ship? Of course not, the script needs him to be onboard so he can ignore the chain of command because otherwise nobody would let the crew back onboard. But what if the search party never found anything? He doesn’t have the power to overrule anyone and insist they go back. Why did Kane look in the egg? Why would these people willingly split up repeatedly? Alien is obviously better than Prometheus, but we can do the same thing.
the obvious plot in Alien was Weyland already knew of the alien.
They sent the truckers there as a sick experiment to see what would happen if you exposed a ship crew to it.
Aliens was the same thing with a colony and marines
Aliens is practically a remake in terms of story structure, it’s nuts how lazy Cameron is every time he writes a sequel. Masks it with more action and noise, but he always just follows the original beats.
you buffoons can never decide if you want to whine that a sequel is too different or complain that it's too much the same. You'll definitely find a reason to be unhappy though
It’s the thing with sequels, it has to be similar enough while also being different enough. There’s a logic to what Cameron does, but once you get past the surface excitement there’s a disappointment to seeing how closely he follows the template (Ripley has to find her little sidekick and escape in a shuttle before the big explosion, oh no the alien got onboard, Ripley locks herself away to put on a suit so she can fight it and flush it out the airlock, etc). I find it interesting in a way.
No, they didn't know. They knew of a non-human signal, and that's it. The order was literally just "if there is something there, bring it back, and it's more important than the crew".
It's literally in the film that they knew. I don't know why this myth they didn't know persists
%3D%3D
>order 937
>Nostromo rerouted
>to new co-ordinates
>investigate lifeform. Gather specimen
They literally explain in the movie it was rerouted because it detected the signal because that's standard protocol.
But Ash was assigned to the ship before they left. It’s… muddled.
So? He (and lots of company androids) are probably there for any one of countless contingencies. "Bring back any weird alien shit you find regardless of if it will kill the rest of the crew" is exactly the kind of order a scumbag corporation would give. He also probably had orders to prioritize preserving the ships space-oil refinery over the crews lives too.
Apply that defence to one of the new ones and people would be yelling about headcanon, plot holes, questionable writing etc as the film simply didn’t clear it up.
How can you argue this, the order is to get a lifeform, how the frick do they know theres a lifeform?
The order isn't being rewritten as the movie goes on. Thats the order, reroute the root and get the lifeform from the start. Which means they MUST know about it beforehand.
They know, David contacted them after the events of Alien: Covenant.
Arrogant dumb frick, not a surprise you like prometheus.
>So the company knew and put a robot onboard right before they left?
Yes moron. At least on general terms they knew the zone had presence.
How fricking stupid are you?
And they figured the best way to handle this incredibly vital and profitable mission was to let some intergalactic truck drivers mess around unsupervised and just hope it played out? Then they just didn’t bother trying again for 57 years, despite setting up a colony a few miles away? Great writing in this series.
You fricking moron. You cannot bring those things directly to earth you must smuggle them. Is a major point in the first two movies.
You Prometheus tards are finally mask off. Pretentious cretins with no brain or memory or logical thinking.
Cite examples from the films.
Are you moronic? Don't you remember Burke?
Burke was going to cover his tracks by killing the people who knew what he did while bringing back specimens. The films don’t have some ongoing narrative about hiding things from space customs.
Grasping at straws. Especially here
>The films don’t have some ongoing narrative about hiding things from space customs.
If this was the case, Burke would have just grabbed one and went back with a spaceship.
You are intellectually dishonest AND a moron.
You’ve literally been unable to give any specific examples.
>Burke
>Not that
>I explain you why you are a fricking imbecile
>You dishonestly ignore it
There is no cure for you because you have no honesty.
Prometheus is written like shit. Get over it.
The crew was space miners, not people directly selected for a unique mission.
The crew mostly would follow the procedure, the robot broke it directly (albeit Lambert was emotional).
Kane is a fricking space engineer not a biologist. If prometheus had the map guy being moronic with the snake and the biologist being lost, part of its moronation would be mitigated. They really, REALLY didn't give a frick.
The actual mission in Prometheus is to have the robot lead Weyland to a living engineer. The rest is largely for appearances.
To reiterate, that's stupid and a worthless movie unworthy of an audience.
They still need those people, hiring morons made no sense. How did they know how they would exactly find the situation once there?
Nah you are trying to justify the unjustifiable.
by that logic, its like that today too. i have a bsee and i get paid for literally reading meters and chill all day. i busted my ass in school so i wouldnt bust my ass at work.
>cartographer
He's a geologist. He literally spells it out when he turns around to leave everywhere else (and gets lost).
>Look. I'm just a geologist. I like rocks. I love ROCKS. Now it's clear you two don't give a shit about rocks. What you do seem to care about is gigantic dead bodies. And I don't really have anything to contribute to the GIGANTIC DEAD BODY ARENA! I want to go back to the ship, if you don't mind.
The mapping is him using "mine pups" to find "anything interesting." After releasing them, you can hear him giving verbal reports on what rocks the pups are reading (although the only one I can hear clearly is "decomposed granite"). It really does seem like his only contribution is being a mine pup technician, and he realizes that too.
As for getting lost, it's still bullshit, but we don't know what he can actually see, considering he's using an arm band connected to the ship instead of an actual on-sight terminal. All we get from him is hesitating at an intersection, looking at his arm, and saying, "Uhm... Pups are saying... this way," which leads them to the room with clean atmosphere (the actual ship). He might not even be able to see the full map that Prometheus sees. That is the only instance of him reading the pups in the movie. When the pups pick up the lifeform, the captain has to describe it and its position to him; it's not something he can check on his arm. It's bullshit though because even if he can't see it, you'd still expect him to be checking with Prometheus on the right direction when they head out first, not be radio silent through the storm warning and say nothing until after the storm begins.
The cope is that they were high. We still see the geologist hooking up his helmet, but supposedly in the original edit he hooked up the biologist too, and the added oxygen made the weed even more powerful.
Then their shenanigans were meant to be a couple of potheads running around alternately being terrified and fascinated by the things they were discovering.
Because moronation was the only way they could get anybody killed in this stupid film.
Have you met a scientist irl?
Annoying as all shit! Can't mop a floor to save their life. In fact they can't do a bunch of shit. Frick evolution!
why did he keep calling it baby? did he want to frick it?
It was thinly veiled anti-vax propaganda. Making the scientists competent would go against the whole point of it.
Engineer Approved.
black goo was just the chinese virus made by competent people
Why wouldn't they be
It was written by a moron.
They were nepo babies and mostly book smart.
Engineers had invisible stupid gas in the facility as a defence.
Those the Gods want to destroy they first make stupid.
Nice. I believe it.
I LIKE ROCKS
don't remember if its a deleted scene (filmed) or just cut from the script entirely, but Weyland's daughter intentionally hired morons to try and sabotage the mission out of spite.
Yeah, she thinks it’s a waste of time, she says at the start she personally hired most of them, it’s made clear they’re in it for the money and don’t know why they’re there even before you take into account the top secret real reason they’re there, and she’s visibly horrified when she realises Shaw and her boyf were actually right. But for some reason people follow their head canon that this was some global mission led by the best of the best, etc. Media literacy is getting worse.
Headcanon cope
Literally all said outright in the theatrical cut
>But for some reason people follow their head canon that this was some global mission led by the best of the best
First of all it's very clearly a private funded mission, secondly concidering the fortune needed to go there, in style - you'd assume they would pay enough to lure some quality individuals. Of course not the best, on a risky long journey.
>Media literacy is getting worse
Or better. People are finally giving it it's due respect.
None.
Only curious risk-seekers would accept this kind of mission
Because they were written by one of the three lost hacks
Two more centuries of diversity equity and inclusion had a profound impact on professional behavior. We're nearly there now.
these films were a clusterfrick of bad writing or rather just omitting writing.
cause writing is hard, shitlord!
I demand a raise and more residuals!
From the same people who brought you “14 days to flatten the curve” and “100% safe and effective”; Climate change.
Yes scientists are fricking moronic.
Source: everything from 2020 to now
That wasn't moronation that was pure corruption.
What’d ya know Scientists are human, therefore they’re moronic.
So the plot could happen. Same as every horror movie having moronic characters with no sense of self preservation
This film was a cliche pulp fiction style Archeological adventure and dig plot.
>Rich butthole pays for an archeological expedition
>gathers a bunch of "experts"
>find the treasure
>rich butthole reveals hes a moustache twirling villain and now he gas the treasure he doesn't need anyone else and sacrifices them to the movie monsters
You could remake this film in the 1910s
Because it's a Ridley Scott film? Great visuals, okay to bad everything else
I don't understand the practice of veteran directors outsourcing the script writing to idiot gen Xers. You would think they would hire an accomplished scifi writer or other novelist.
It must be some gen Xer nepo thing
Stargate is a better ancient ayylmao film than Prometheus
I actually think in Prometheus they knew about that too and sent an earlier expedition to scout everything first.
because vickers hired them to sabotage the mission this is made VERY clear.
>vickers: Those of you who I hired personally hello again
>weylad: Surprised to see you here since you were trying so hard to stop me succeeding in this??
>Well, you fricking bastard dad, if you get immortal life i'll never inherit the damn company will I? It's my fricking turn. So I am trying to make things go a certain way you see yeah?
I can't understand if you only watched the movie once, its all happening fast. But if you watch it again turns out all your "gripes" are answered
what's your point, that doesn't make it any less ridiculous
they're not people who make mistakes, they're going through insane motions because the writer didn't know how to be clever about it
besides, budget Tom Hardy is there because of Shaw, who was there on merit
he's king moron
Can people not grasp the concept of a movie's plot and characters being so stupid that it's not worth watching? You can have you character stand up and shout "I am making this stupid action because of this stupid reason" and it's still fricking stupid and not a good story. I don't give a shit if they explained dozens of things in some deleted scenes and cut parts of the script, everything about prometheus is still dumb as hell.
The inconsistency is key. Human error, hubris, idiotic ignorance in the face of something beyond our control etc has been a part of this series quite consistently. In every instalment, in fact. But people for some reason decided all these characters had to be flawless geniuses.
because you would have to be a genius to know not to try and pet an alien creature that is clearly trying to intimidate you.
are you moronic?
Yeah, that’s definitely not something that ever happens in real life.
let's take our helmets off because they're annoying!
this is like a hard hat on a construction site, right?
I'm not a genius so this is what I do!
Taking their helmets off genuinely didn’t cause problems for them at any point because it was in fact safe to do so.
Did they wear any safety gear in Aliens? The colonists could have easily been wiped out by something in the air, but they don’t even go in wearing masks…
The problem was they werent consistant.
>Scared of a dead humanoid alien but wants to pat a snake looking alien coming out of dark water.
>is a zoologist
>gets killed by an animal
Who the frick writes this shit?
The real question is what the frick is that helmet design, bruv??
Didnt Covenant also have this problem? Both movies had teams of experts that made braindead moronic decisions.
When did either film declare the crew members to be experts?
Why are you making apologies for (someone else's) shit writing?
I didn’t. I’m asking people to explain their headcanon.
you mean the scientists and crew explicitly hired to go on a billion dollar investigation to find our creators were the trainees?
Maybe read the thread.
I did. I trying to fathom why anyone would think that a crew specifically hired for this mission wouldn't have expertise in their fields. what kind of bullshit excuses are you making?
It is a given that astronauts and people filling roles on a highly expensive, technical, lengthy, risky trip are experts. Especially for this perfectionist Weyland. The characters existing at all is declaring them to be experts. It's you people who have to justify why 'actually they're not experts, they're incompetent morons unfit for their jobs, and here's why that's ok!'
Weyland didn’t hire them. His daughter who thought it was a waste of time while waiting for her inheritance did. And the people who took the gig didn’t even know what job they’d accepted. This wasn’t some noble mission to save humanity with different nations offering up their best and brightest.
>When did either film declare the crew members to be experts?
Seriously?
too much Cinemaphile and plebbit
Because they hired idiots basically. They very much outright state that at the beginning of the briefing. These are people who left their home planet on an insane death mission and they were only picked because they had nothing left to lose on Earth and were outliers in their fields.
>wow Ridley I just realized we have people doing moronic shit like in a B-movie
>no worries we shoot this scene and add it to the beginning it will set things straight
Ok moron
This series has always been B movie material filmed as if they were A movies. It’s literally how they described the original when making it.
The scientists were moronic in order to reflect the reality of scientists. It's for immersion.
You wouldn't get it because you are a goy cattle and you believe everything scientists tell you. Now, go take another COVID booster shot like a good goy.
Covid schizophrenia aside, the guy in your picture is not a scientist.
You are a monumental cretin, anon.
You know how when you apply for a corporate job there are like at least six pages of personality questionnaires to weed out potential liabilities? Apparently that does not exist in the Alien universe.
Why was every character, particularly the "scientists" so loathsome, vile and worthy of contempt?
I dunno, was there some underlying theme about the arrogance and ignorance of our species and how it could lead to our complete destruction, with even our own creations branding us unworthy?
those were the LEAST homosexual ""scientists"" they could find in the future.
>We have multiple crew trapped in a spooky alien structure, and we detected some signal that might be heading their direction. Eh, I'm sure they'll be fine. Now is a perfect time to ask the cute blonde if she's a robot. Pretty sure that'll get her to frick me.
the worst thing about these films is not once but twice the homosexual writers put in their gay as shit cuck fantasys. Completely takes you out of the films, i bet they thought it was the best shit in the world.
The second times its fricking Hussie Smolett the fricking gay hate crime hoaxer no less, lmao.
What makes you think scientists aren't moronic?
Scientists and academics in general can be incredibly moronic, but not in their specific field. The most famous ones often say something stupid about a field they don't know out of arrogance. Humanities people are even worse btw.
But see
>If prometheus had the map guy being moronic with the snake and the biologist being lost, part of its moronation would be mitigated.
There is no excuse for this no matter how much you kick and scream anon.
They can be, but someone claiming to be a biologist should know better than to stick his hand in the face of something he knows absolutely nothing about other than looking like a weird alien cobra.
its what happens when dumb people try to write smart people
>Hey, Cooper? I get that you want to land on this clearly uninhabitable planet to retrieve Miller's data and possibly her body, but could you maybe land the Ranger a little bit closer to the signal? Between the spacesuits and punishing gravity, walking a mile in shallow water is going to be unnecessarily rough. Thanks, buddy.
I hate Interstellar so much it's unreal. Great theoretical concepts and visualitization wasted on the absolute moronic minds of not one, but two Nolans.
I don't remeber most of the movie. Whats wrong with it?
It exists.
>be highly accomplished and non-moronic scientist
>durr let me just spend several years of my prime going on this wild goose chase to accomplish nothing and might not even be able to return from
who? Shaw and her husband were the equivalent of that Hanwiener guy
Their entire thesis depended on spaceship technology being good enough to get them to the planet
Nobody, that's the point. Non-moronic scientists would never go on this journey in the first place.
i mean if you had a spaceship that could go to another planet to find aliens. Millions of weirdos would sign up
It's the movie's fatal flaw. Chalk it up to excitement and a need for the plot to hit the fan. But otherwise this movie is leagues ahead of other contemporary sci-fi. He caved like a b***h and made Covenant sloppy bullshit as a result.
i unironically reckon the writer sabotaged it to make Ridley look stupid
I guess there is nothing wrong with this kino movie.
I guess you are objectively wrong, then