why would two pilots just fly into eachother like morons?
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why would two pilots just fly into eachother like retards?
why would two pilots just fly into eachother like morons?
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WOOP WOOP
THAT'S THE SOUND OF THE PLANE
Goddammit it's
> WHOOP WHOOP THATS THE SOUND OF THE TERRAIN
Plane 1: empower women who hate men rules
Plane 2: WE WAZ PALOTZ
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Pilots have to obey ATCs 100%
they dont
No they don't, captain has the final say. Also they have a collision avoidance system on board which they will follow over ATC instruction. But mid-air collisions can and do happen.
WE GAAN
Maybe they actually were morons.
They weren’t solid guys.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Überlingen_mid-air_collision
>A year and a half after the crash, on 24 February 2004, Peter Nielsen, the air traffic controller on duty at the time of the collision, was murdered in an apparent act of revenge by Vitaly Kaloyev, a Russian citizen whose wife and two children had been killed in the accident.
>Kaloyev was treated as a hero back home, and expressed no regret for his actions, instead blaming the murder victim for his own death. In 2016, Kaloyev was awarded the highest state medal by the government.
That's an interesting twist.
>In 2016, Kaloyev was awarded the highest state medal by the government.
Fricking hell
The man had nothing to lose, so he took back his past from the person that could have avoided his entire life being ruined.
What I'm trying to say is that its based and redpilled.
>a man on the edge with nothing left to lose
he almost did it correctly too. revenge is best served cold. dunno how he got caught immediately though. youd think a guy who took his time planning it out would have gotten out of a pretty small country in time
Ruski are stupid
>Kaloyev was awarded the highest state medal by the government.
putin crazy for this one
>awarded the highest state medal by the government.
Imagine live in a country so based that reward being redpilled
>Later, after his release from prison, Kaloyev was appointed deputy minister of construction of North Ossetia-Alania. In 2016, upon retirement from the local Ossetian government, Kaloyev was awarded the highest regional medal by that government, the medal "To the Glory of Ossetia". The medal is awarded for the highest achievements, improving the living conditions of the inhabitants of the region, for educating the younger generation and maintaining law and order
Fricking KEK
>Returning to his home in North Ossetian city of Vladikavkaz, Kaloyev was met with enthusiastic crowds who cheered him as a hero.[3] Members of the youth movement Nashi displayed a banner which read: "You are a real man" in Ossetian.[13][14]
Vitaly Yusko, a member of a Russian organisation dedicated to helping the relatives of air crash victims, stated that "Kaloyev is a hero. Those guilty of causing air crashes often remain unpunished. Such a radical punishment is the only way to make them carry responsibility for their crimes". Many Russians appeared to share his sentiments, and believed that Kaloyev committed "a heroic deed avenging for the death of his family."[13] The positive reaction and appointment in Russia were met with a negative reception in Switzerland.[15]
Once again Russia is the good guy
Pretty suspicious. RA-85816 was a russian aircraft and there was some controversy over who was responsible for the accident. I bet Kaloyev was a hitman and he killed Nielsen, who probably knew that RA-85816 was actually responsible but was paid off or something. The whole story about Kaloyev's wife and child being on the plane was just a cover for if he got caught, which he did. Then some pulled strings and he gets out after 3 years of prison.
>I don't really take offense at people who call me a murderer. People who say that would betray their own children, their own motherland… I protected the honor of my children and the memory of my children. He's nobody to me. He's nobody to me. He was an idiot and that's why he paid for it with his life. If he'd been smarter, it wouldn't have been like this. If he'd invited me into the house, the conversation would have happened in softer tones and the tragedy might not have happened.
IIRC he wasn't even solely responsible?
Someone wanted to win an election anon
And get Arnold Schwarzenegger to portray you in a movie. Later era Arnold, but still, a pretty good deal.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4581576/
>stab a man to death in front of his wife and children
>3 years in prison
>kill 71 people
DUDE INVESTIGATION PENDING LMAO
Suck a wiener, goy.
Do eurocucks really?
holy shit
Planes have windows. Do moronic pilots really just close their eyes and rely on auto pilot and someone on a headset to fricking tell them there's a plane coming their way?
Americans.
Something like 90% of pilots are drunk 24/7 at work, they didn’t crack down on it because doing so would’ve grounded the entire network for travel. They basically get a free ticket to drink at work.
You’re a idiot. By the time you see the plane it’s too late. You’re going 600mph!
Mcdonalds eaters
what's THAT supposed to mean?
You can't rely on visual observation at that altitude because of time dilation
And of top of that, due to the curvature of the glass, the pilot's view is actually flipped left to right, which pilots forget from time to time.
a pair of 737's coming directly toward each other that are 26km away will only take one minute to collide.
So that's one whole minute to move out of the way
Think about it the same way as the sun and earth. If the earth was 15 feet closer to the sun we would all burn up, and 15 feet further we would all freeze. It's kind of like that.
I truly can't tell if this is bait or you're moronic
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moronic people use poor quality bait.
Truly God has blessed us
This is like the "half of your brain is used" meme, or how flight models in highschool books are totally wrong
>If the earth was 15 feet closer to the sun we would all burn up, and 15 feet further we would all freeze. It's kind of like that.
this is a tumblr science load of shit the distance between earth and sun varies by thousands of feet you fricking wienersuck
Aircraft do have transponders that alert pilots of other planes, but if the planes are near airports like for takeoffs/landings, it's not gonna be as noticeable. All it takes is a few seconds. It's also the reason why if a pilot misses their window by like a minute, they have to circle around and wait for a new window to land.
Look at the next plane in the sky. That tiny dot? 7 miles away. By the time the dot of the incoming plane is that big, you have about 12 seconds to respond
Flight control surfaces take several seconds to respond
Unironically, yes. Aside from the start and the landing, pilots really don't have to do much, they just have to be ready at all times. They get lazy, they get complacent, they get bored, they get shoddy.
I heard pilots sometimes dont even know if they're upside down until someone tells them
space pilots?
people in fighter jets
except TCAS exists, so even if they were sleeping there's no way they'd collide midair with another aircraft
TCAS has to be followed by the pilot. It isn't automatic.
but both crews would have to be asleep. Both aircraft that are heading toward each other will get TCAS resolution advisories. One aircraft will get instructed to climb and the other to descend for example. so even if one plane crew is asleep the other will still prevent a collision. Not to mention the loud warnings that lead up to this that would shake anyone asleep awake.
Well it's not a car, they can't just steer to the left and make the plane instantly turn.
If two planes are about to collide, their computers communicate and one plane is told to go up and the other to go down. This instruction overrides everything. If the air control tells you to go up but your computer is telling you to go down, you go down. If that kind of situation happens, someone is losing a job (traffic control that put you on that vector).
99.9% of planes don't have any of that shit, dumbass.
99% of planes that can hold 19 or more people do.
What people neglect to mention is you can just turn it off lmao, and that whoop whoop when its misdetecting something is annoying
its mandatory equipment for all big planes.
which normally is only done when shit already hit the fan. Like if you have an engine failure, you can't maintain altitude it's not exactly helpful to have a computer scream "CLIMB CLIMB" at you.
Sure, but even pilots are humans and they do dumb shit and get lazy. The odds are low? Sure. But is it impossible one planes system was down for maintenence and the other just had it off because he gaan?
>But is it impossible one planes system was down for maintenence and the other just had it off because he gaan?
Extremely low chance. The lawsuits lead to bankruptcy if it's a smaller company, and huge payoffs if it's a huge company. A pilot has to go through all systems with his copilot even before taxiing to takeoff. If it doesn't work, they won't fly because they are not going to risk their $150-600 / hour job that pays 4 hours every day even if they are not flying. 99.9% of dumb shit happens when some homosexual in cessna thinks he is king of the world, you are not turning whoop whoop off because it won't do anything if the systems are okay, and if it starts whoop whoop in the air, you turn the plane around and land, or request closest airport to land.
Great. Now, it actually happened in 2006.
In airplane regulations timeline 2006 is like dinosaur age. I said extremely unlikely. It might happen even today, but it's very, very low chance.
The show takes place between 08 and 09
its actually four pilots but who's counting
it cant really happen anymore, so many things would have to go wrong its almost unfathomable. even deliberately it would take unbelievable luck.
GAAN
wtf was his problem?!
he wanted to go
Because of... LE CONSEQUENCES OF WALT'S ACTIONS
I drank the vodka
I don't know about the possibility of it, but this whole scenario seemed like an absurd slippery slope.
I don't think some drugged up prostitute would have that much significance in real life
She wouldn't if her dad wasn't responsible for literal lives
I mean more in a narrative sense, it's just kinda unnecessary.
Like what's the message here? We shouldn't do drugs with prostitutes because her dad might cause plans to crash?
The girl dying alone could have been tragic enough but they pushed it up to some absurd levels.
It almost becomes funny
it's a copout, they want to show that Walt is kinda messed up and his bad actions have some consequences sometimes, but showing people getting addicted to his meth would make him seem 100% evil and they didn't want to go that far
Vince is a fricking hack
Did you ignore the entire bawd and Spooge subplot?
Its not a moral message, its just showing a chain of unfortunate circumstances.
>literal lives
the thing about commercial aircraft is that they always fly a set path. sure the sky is huge, but they dont all fly at random altitudes. they fly on basically a few sky "highways", so the likelihood of a crash is very real if air traffic control is faulty. it's not random
That's so stupid though. Why don't they just make the "highways" require alternation altitudes, so even if they overlap they wont crash
im just gonna trust that the autists who comprise the ATC have a formula that works. also, when the planes crashed in the show, the crash really wasnt that high up. meaning it was likely on descent/takeoff, the most dangerous times.
Planes now have alerts if they're on course for a collision with another.
That probably works fine for cruising, I doubt it's as reliable or useful for takeoff and landing. Too much going on in a very short time frame.
but im also sure some improvements have been made since the show was aired. like what, 2010? at least gone are the days where celebrities and musicians were dying in plane crashes every week from like 1940 through 1980
airliners at cruise speed are going 280 to 320 knots(322-368 mph), two planes flying at each other are closing at over 600 miles per hour meaning by the time you see the tiny dot that is the plane ahead of you and determine its at the same altitude you have maybe a few seconds before its crashing into you and airliners can't just maneuver like a fighter jet
probably not going to happen with TCAS equipped jets excluding the eternal specter of slav piloting. Could still happen with a military jet since they can actually frick about in controlled airspace in certain circumstances.
In a QRF scramble to intercept a probable hijacked aircraft air force pilots will do a full burner takeoff, go supersonic at 1000ft AGL smashing windows on the ground then do a 40 degree climb with afterburner applied across the approach path of an international airport and civilian controllers just have to suck a lemon
There was a near collision over Turkey recently when the ATC kept telling the pilot to ignore TCAS and descend. If he had obeyed the two paswnger jets would have collided. I couldn't find any occult significance to the date, so it appears it was simply a Turk hitting the hash pipe before work. ATC wasn't fired, which is worrying.
>In a QRF scramble to intercept a probable hijacked aircraft air force pilots will do a full burner takeoff, go supersonic at 1000ft AGL smashing windows on the ground then do a 40 degree climb with afterburner applied across the approach path of an international airport and civilian controllers just have to suck a lemon
Clean the vectors janny.
none of them were ghost of kiev
Kaloyev's only mistake was not killing enough people at fault.
>collision happens right above Walter's house
what are the odds?
50%. It either happens or it doesn't
The show improves from here, but I always saw this moment as jumping the shark. It's just so stupid, and even worse is that they spent so much time foreshadowing the incident with the stupid pool and everything. Too much time that could have been spent on literally anything else.
I remember trying to figure out what was going to happen based on those foreshadowing scenes and it just turns out to be some barely related midair collision. bravo vince you homosexual.
Come up with something better.
Sorry Vince, that was your job.
because stupid tv writers don't know what TCAS is.
you know that there is no up and down in space, right?
they were both aiming for GOD
Watching this scene right before going to basic to become ATC for the air force was a whole new feeling of anxiety.
arent most atc guys retired pilots? lmao why would you go into it as a newbie?
That's the job they gave me after waiting 8 months for a position during the recruiting process. Damn sure wasn't going in as an open.
I wanted to be a drone senor operator.
sensor*
>arent most atc guys retired pilots?
Nope.
t. Pilot
It makes far less sense on a clear day. Bravo Vince
PSA flight 182
Please tell me someone has the WE GAAN tenerife radio transcript. I lost it when my old pooter died
WTF is this real?
two small prop planes collided a couple weeks ago in north las vegas
scratch 2 boomers
Some people just want to watch the world GAAN
Just do as the robot says and no one will get hurt.