Will I like these if I have never watched Star Trek or is there a better entry point?
Will I like these if I have never watched Star Trek or is there a better entry point?
Will I like these if I have never watched Star Trek or is there a better entry point?
they are entertaining you will like them
If you like JJ Abrams or sci-fi action these are decent films on their own.
The first is ... dumb fun, kind of?
The second is one of the dumbest movies ever made. Atrocious.
Never watched the third because the second.
None are worth watching because JJ is a fricking hack.
The third is way better than the 2nd and an enjoyable dumb action movie. Bad trek movie, decent sci fi action movie.
They're fine I guess. But they don't capture the essence of Star Trek in the slightest.
They do, as far as pop culture misconceptions of the franchise go.
>they don't capture the essence of Star Trek in the slightest
>"They do [capture] misconceptions of the franchise"
So, they don't 🙂 What the other anon said.
I like the mini enterprise at the bottom of that pic
Star Trek movies
Never understood why Uhura was white in the third one?
Threadly reminder this is the longest ever gap between Trek movies. Thanks, JJ.
I would gladly erase his entire catalog if it meant he never got his hands on Star Trek or Star Wars
the first one is a decent attempt at a reboot but the villain is kind of bland and JJ doesn't understand how space and scale work, exemplified later in his Star Wars movies. 2 is just a shitty remake of a much better movie, and 3 is a dumpster fire. only the 1st is worth watching because for all the faults the casting and chemistry are great.
>or is there a better entry point?
If you were ever to watch Star Trek movies for any reason with no prior attachment and just wanting good movies. The "Genesis Trilogy" is the one to watch. Solid movies for general audiences as well as trek devotees.
These are probably the most accessible for someone who hasn't seen Star Trek before and is a good representation of what the franchise is about.
NO it isn’t, you lying mothermother.
>meme space battles
>meme resurrection plot
>ruined klingons forever
>every scene is the characters talking about being old
Those dusty ass moves are FRICKING GAY as FRICK and NOT STAR TREK!!!
>voyage home ruined klingons forever
care to elaborate
They have nothing to do with star trek.
1st and 3rd are good. 2nd is moronic but it's probably not that bad if you know nothing about Star Trek.
This was my entry to Star Trek so I'm biased but these are super comfy movies for me. All three are a lot of fun but Beyond is the best one imo and closest to the vibe of TOS
Watch Star Trek V. You won't regret it.
Do not trust this anon
Compared to any NuTrek, V is gold.
>Compared to any NuTrek, V is gold.
I'd say that's a stretch. Picard season III isn't complete dog shit. V has some fun ideas and a handful of great scenes; but its a disjointed mess. It has a lot more soul than new trek though. Shatner was trying to tell a meaningful story not just crank out some paint by numbers bullshit like modern Hollywood does. He failed; but you can at least respect him for trying.
>Picard season III isn't complete dog shit.
It really only seems that way due to callbacks and nostalgia-bait, and it's competition being the gutter trash that was S1 (weird wannabe GoT schlock) and S2 (wokemaxxing)
It was pretty good for todays standards and it was a lot of fun to see the whole crew back together again on the enterprise D. The worst thing about s3 Picard is how much everyone cries like damn they got weepy in their old age. Actual tng isn't like that.
>and it was a lot of fun to see the whole crew back together again on the enterprise D
No. It's depressing. They're all old. Picard is meant to be retired on his vineyard. It's like drafting an aging WW2 vet into the Korean War. Just let the frickers retire.
i agree with the other anon, it's just depressing
we had one shot to see the old crew reunited before they died or became infirm, and it was wasted on this garbage
>but its a disjointed mess
seemed pretty linear to me and everybody else, maybe you just have ADD
based pain needer
Each man hides a secret pain.
best actor in the whole movie.
I actually really like final frontier it gets a lot of hate but it's a lot of fun. Of all the trek movies it's probably closest to how a tos episode felt
I like it a lot too, fun movie that doesn't take itself too seriously, good story, lots of action.
I liked it, don't get the hate
Just watch the original series
If you've never watched star trek then they're OK. The big reveal in #2 wont mean shit and just come off as utter camp.
A better starting point depends:
>watch selected highlighte episodes from TOS then The Motion Picture because it captures the sci-fi/unknown/gruesome fricking nature of the original series
>The trilogy: 2/3/4, is more action oriented but still some philosophical themes, with the 4 being almost farsical but much more in keeping with an actual TOS episode plot
>5, eh... I still like it but its easily forgetable
>6 is great because the script/dialogue/actors are all so good, it feels like the TOS characters are in a TNG episode plot but bringing their own spin
>7... not good, cheaply made, Kirk + Picard initial interaction is cool though
>8-10, also, not good. TNG and Picard especially were really cerebral as a series/character, making them into action heroes was a dumb move. Just watch the battle of sector 001 on youtube and ignore the rest
>le First Contact is bad meme
It's a great Trek movie. The Zefram Cochrane stuff is very Trek and the Borg action is good action.
Giving the borg a queen ruined them. They where better as a singular hive mind with no hierarchy or boss. Just a mass of borg here to consume us
I agree; but Hugh and Lore had already fricked up the Borg. The Borg were at their best in their first two appearances when they were a completely inhuman, soulless force of nature. Every attempt to humanize them or make them understandable or relatable has been a mistake. The only exception being when the Borg assimilate Picard because its just creepy and only serves to reinforce how inhuman and terrifying they are. The antithesis of the human soul, an all consuming existential nightmare.
>Hugh and Lore had already fricked up the Borg
I would say this is more of a subjective ruining vs the queen's objective ruining. I got the impression that behind the borg being an inhuman existential threat, it was also a stand-in for the dangers of radical/extremist communism, and i think hugh works as a character who's capable of being freed from the brainwashing, like an east german citizen escaping over the berlin wall to west germany
does it make the borg less scary? yes
would learning anything about them make them less mysterious, and do the same thing? probably
>was descent kind of a bad 2-parter? yeah tbh, but i liked the big trash ship design, the effect for entering the transwarp corridor was cool, and the overall premise of renegade borg attacking outposts couldve been cooler
Honestly it's all pretty gay and moronic except a few episodes of TNG and TOS. Maybe 20-30 episodes total.
A genius AI or whatever that selects interesting media that's good for brain development out of all human media would choose some of the episodes generally considered good but probably ignore all the movies.
They're more action-y than most Star Trek. I recommend starting with TNG, even though the first season is kind of meh.
that's what I started with
but then I watched real trek is and I didn't like them anymore
they're action shlock made for normies so they can say they're trekkies too
beyond is the closest thing to actual star trek, but even then it's rough because they turned idris elba into a dumb monster man
If you like
>big blockbusters - 09
>90s tv - TNG season 3
>old tv - TOS s1
>drugs - The Motion Picture
>kino - Wrath of Khan
>kino shlock - Final Frontier
>political thrillers - Undiscovered Country
>or is there a better entry point?
God yes. Those are barely Star Trek.
If you can tolerate cheesy special effects and camp then start with Star Trek The Original Series. Its dated; but it has some great episodes and it introduces you to the world and the characters. The Star Trek films with the original crew are peak trek (except Star Trek V). You could start with The Motion Picture; but you should at least watch some of the best original series episodes to get you familiar with the characters.
If you can't tolerate cheesy old special effects and camp then start with The Next Generation. The first two seasons are kind of weak so maybe just watch the pilot (which is decent but not great) then anything with a rating over a 7 on IMDB.
Season 2 of tng is good.
You might as well watch the Transformers movies because they're about the same level of Star Trek as those movies.
They are just "meh" overall. First one is completely forgettable. Into Darkness is probably the best and actually has a semi-interesting plot and some decent action scenes, even if it is just a rip off of Wrath of Khan. Beyond is garbage with reddit humor and nonsensical plot.
I don't even consider these movies an entry point into Trek. To me, they are just generic sci-fi action movies with a Trek coat of paint. But if you are interested in getting into trek my reccomendation is starting with The Next Generation, then Deep Space Nine. Those represent peak trek. Voyager and Enterprise have their moments. I also reccomend the original films, since it lets you experience the 60s cast but with an actual budget and production values. The original series itself is VERY dated and I found it a slog. Other than that, you can ignore the TNG films because they suck, and then ignore anything made after Enterprise because that was the last actual trek piece of media (I mean, like I say, JJ trek is meh so watch it if you want but I really don't consider it proper trek). So yeah, Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks, Strange New Worlds. Avoid all of those like the plague.
Between this and the anti-immigrant DS9 episode I think libshits forget that trek wasn't all commie-utopia pandering crap.
Watch TOS, skip episodes that don't interest you and then keep going until you're caught up
It's fast and fourious in space with some star wars sensibilities. Characters are named after Star Trek characters.
Do your math
>is there a better entry point?
Just watch the classic movies, 1 to 6. You technically don't need to have knowledge about classic Trek to see them, but being a bit familiar with the characters in general would help connecting emotionally, since "aging friends" is a theme.
Anyway watch those and be done with it.
Nothing modern is worth mentioning.
No they are cringe, watch TOS and TNG, and their movies, then stop watching