Will Marvel ever address or retcon cap being frozen?

Will Marvel ever address or retcon cap being frozen? When he was revived in 1964 he'd only been frozen for 19 years, but with the rolling timeline he'll end up having been frozen for 80+ years soon. Nobody would know who the frick he was.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nobody would know who the frick he was.

    The two fake Captain Americas that happened prior to Steve being unfrozen are still canon. One of them went on to become a supervillain.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are going to remember World War 2 anon. That's the whole reason it works.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nobody would remember the guy running around dressed as the American flag during the most popular war in history

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry, they'll fix it with WWIII

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when it was revealed that the whole thing with Zemo and the missile was just an implanted memory and Cap was actually forcibly frozen by the government to stop him from opposing the nukes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No I don't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was in the Marvel Knights era of Captain America, IIRC it was written by Chuck Austen himself. It was never explicitly retconned, just never referred to again, while the story as it previously was, with Zemo and the drone plane continues to get referenced afterwards.

        That story had Bucky's death be an accident caused by the suspended animation process going wrong, so it was de-canonized by the Winter Soldier story bringing Bucky back.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every adaption of Captain America has had him reawaken in whatever year the adaption is set in. He had a movie in 1990 where he woke up in 1990. In the 2011 movie, he wakes up in 2011 in the PS. If they make a Cap reboot after Cap Falcon bombs, he'll reawaken in 20XX. But yeah, what started as an inconvenience that was preferable to death is now getting to the point where he should go mad with future shock.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It inadvertently adds to his premise, though. Makes his situation much more tragic and interesting

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much
        Captain America and Red Skull actually benefitted from comic book limbo
        They're relics of a bygone age and exemplify their respectively qualities greatly as a result

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *from Marvel's floating timeline
          Brain short circuited

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why has every other character from this age forgotten to history?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why has every other character from this age forgotten to history?
            Aside from Bucky, Namor, and the original Human Torch, they're either in the public domain so they don't care or are used as a joke

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ow getting to the point where he should go mad with future shock.

      I think you either underestimate how advanced the world was then or overestimate how advanced it is now.
      >OMG IS THAT A PORTABLE COMMUNICATION DEVICE! I'M GOING INSANE... oh wait no this is a logical step in telephone communications.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He went into the drink before television was widespread. It wouldn't be "Phones are so neat now" but "I need to learn to use this demonic rectangle to live." With Moore's Law, imagine tech in 21 years. Now imagine a story where Cap freezes in 1945 and awakens in 2045. That might be more prone to future shock than 2024, granted, but we're getting there.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Moore's Law has been dead for a while now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OMG IS THAT A PORTABLE COMMUNICATION DEVICE! I'M GOING INSANE... oh wait no this is a logical step in telephone communications.
        Nevermind that this probably existed in his original comics, he could have seen it predicted in Dick Tracy comics, and lots of common stuff now were unexpected for people from the end of last century posting in this board.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, this. If we would wake up 100 years in the future and find ourselves among flying fricking cars, AI insurrection, or the entire world being underwater, we wouldn't bat an eyelid because we saw it happen in Fifth Element / Terminator / Waterworld. Hell half the thing we have today were predicted in caricatures a hundred years ago.

          He went into the drink before television was widespread. It wouldn't be "Phones are so neat now" but "I need to learn to use this demonic rectangle to live." With Moore's Law, imagine tech in 21 years. Now imagine a story where Cap freezes in 1945 and awakens in 2045. That might be more prone to future shock than 2024, granted, but we're getting there.

          You are arguing that Cap would have future shock over television, when it was a gigantic deal that Germany in the 1930s had country wide television broadcasts of the olympics? I grant you he probably wouldn't get 2040s internet humour (you could chalk that up to the strange stuff that kids are up to that year) but if we are talking about how different his time was, then I imagine he'd have bigger culture shocks over the amount of colored people in the populace or gay people making out in the street.

          coincidentally, this was the very concept of The Ultimates where he woke up in the 2000s and was surprised to see a black guy being an army general or nurses showing too much leg.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I imagine he'd have bigger culture shocks over the amount of colored people in the populace
            Might not even be the case, there were black characters in old comics.
            You know, people talk a lot about segregation back then, but if you watch the original Little Rascals show from the 30s, there were black kids hanging out with the white ones, no real prejudice shown even by adults.

            >flying fricking cars
            Considering Back to the Future 2, we might be too late already, even. Maybe it's because we haven't gotten rid of lawyers yet.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet 60 year olds still have issues using smartphones... curious...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's more an age thing than a culture shock thing. The older you get, the harder it is to learn new things. Especially if it's something you don't have any real interest in.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nobody would know who the frick he was
    Anon admitting this would require them admitting that the nazis would no longer be relevant in 616 by then, and he would be in the same boat as any historical figure who was key to defeating some other historical defunct state like Napoleon's Empire or Carthage.

    IRL as spooked as frick as everyone was about the Cold War it was something that faded into background noise, and even today almost nobody gives a single actual frick anymore outside of using it as a political weapon that's lost all actual meaning, in a world with multiple global invasions and earth shaking wars in the intervening nearly a century of time since WWII in Marvel, it'd have lost relevance far faster.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this was addressed in the 70's, not because of poorly educated Zommers not knowing who was involved in WW2 but because after WW2, the actual Captain America comic continued for 10 more years with Bucky and Cap fighting Communists and space aliens and shit, being frozen in ice and Bucky dying was the retcon

    basically some guy tries to recreate the Cap serum and brainwashes kids to be his Bucky, and they become the Post War Captain America and Bucky of the 50's - to the beginning of the Marvel Age.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People know who Adolf Hitler is

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers don't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am a zoomer and I know who Adolf Hitler is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's more like "People know who Walter von Reichenau is". No, moron, people remember maybe a few people per country per historical period, and the father we get the less is remembered. Do you know who Hermann Göring is? Because when I was younger everyone knew and I assume now most zoomers don't bother to learn any history. The point being, a random moron dressed in a flag would be forgotten way before the most important generals of the most important country of the most remembered war.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no because they can't possibly have captain america alive during the vietnam war without it either being nationalistic bullshit, or captain america being a conscientious objector and the government putting him in jail or sleep or something to keep him quiet. it would also gloss over his opinion on the MLK Jr assassination, the JFK assassination, and the fact that the u.s. was selling weapons to both iraq and iran in the 80s, and it would have to skip over the fact that the CIA was involved in regime change as well as arming proxy militias that worked with pol pot.

    captain america would have to actively be distracted from every single scandal and conspiracy throughout that period. additionally, the korean war was unconstitutional, it was never officially approved of through appropriate government channels involving elected officials

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is he ok with the countless war crimes the USA committed?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think he was Nomad for a while anon?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Will Marvel ever address or retcon cap being frozen? When he was revived in 1964 he'd only been frozen for 19 years, but with the rolling timeline he'll end up having been frozen for 80+ years soon. Nobody would know who the frick he was.

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