They will never reboot 616 because what problem would that fix. It would bring in sales for like the first few months but it would only piss off the few readers they still have.
TL;DR Just because you don't like modern comics that doesn't mean everyone else should suffer for it.
>They will never reboot 616 because what problem would that fix.
It would fix lots of problems and I for one think they will reboot 616 someday if I had my way I would make the reboot happen right now.
>Just because you don't like modern comics that doesn't mean everyone else should suffer for it.
Spider-Man fans have been suffering even since OMD happened that's 17 years now buddy it's time for spider-man to be rebooted.
The problem with rebooting Marvel is that, unlike DC, their bread and butter is ongoing serial, soap opera. So if you do a reboot you need to cover ground that’s already been covered ie Dark Phoenix Saga, Death of Gwen Stacy, Elektra Saga, Demon in a Bottle, and so on. The best way to deal with shitty stories is “fresh start” shit ala JMS’s first issue of Spider-Man which felt like a clean break but didn’t reboot the character or anything, just didn’t reference the previous five-six years of stupid bullshit.
Y’know it’s been almost 20 years (frick I’m old) since OMD and it’s still the main topic of conversation anytime someone brings up Amazing Spider-Man. Wally replacing Barry post-Crisis had a similar reaction but the demand for Barry to return pretty well fizzled out after a few years…this has been almost 20. It doesn’t help that immediately after OMD was a ten year run written by a guy who loved to go “nyah nyah nyah MJ and Peter will never be together again!” followed by a run that wiener-teased undoing OMD for a hundred issues only to be followed up by a run where MJ’s hooked up with some doofus who coldwieners a weird, stalkery Peter. If one single story is still the main topic of conversation 20 fricking years later it needs to be addressed. >thank you for listening to my rambling
>Y’know it’s been almost 20 years (frick I’m old) since OMD and it’s still the main topic of conversation anytime someone brings up Amazing Spider-Man
De-aging Jon kent will be DC’s version forever more in all honesty
I dunno, I really only see a demand for Jon to be de-aged on Cinemaphile whereas the Spidey offices are, to this day, getting letters about OMD. But to be fair DC doesn’t publish fan letters anymore so maybe there is a bigger demand for Jon to be de-aged but I think OMD has it significantly beat in terms of sheer editorial stubbornness with not listening to what fans actually want. But before you jump up my ass I absolutely agree Jon should be de-aged and really should have been done the moment Bendis left.
>I dunno, I really only see a demand for Jon to be de-aged on Cinemaphile
Literally every jon kent post on Twitter is full of demands to bring back kid Jon
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Oh. I don’t use Twitter so I was going off instagram/facebook/other message boards/people in life and there OMD is mentioned much more than de-aging Jon.
There's a lot of reasons why OMD will essentially always be a point of contention within Spider-Man >The premise itself was stupid, Spider-Man would never make a deal with the devil >It's an easy turning point for when Spider-Man comics definitely went from good to bad (even though there were bad comics beforehand) >It (or moreso BND) was the point where Peter went from relatable adult to obnoxious manchild >People like MJ, and as long as they continue to use her in adaptations they will continue to like her, and she's been treated like absolute shit since OMD to keep her and Peter apart >We've been dickteased about it a few times, with Spencer's run being the most blatant, and Wells's run being the most blatant course correction away from it
That’s all very true. The fact the book took a nose dive in quality for so long after OMD didn’t help matters. Slott can’t write worth a shit and for some bizarre reason had a huge hard-on for antagonizing people over Peter and MJ’s marriage being undone and he had a stranglehold on the book for ten years immediately post-OMD. Like I mentioned before the heat with Wally replacing Barry eventually died down because the book was good, even reaching excellence at times. Amazing Spider-Man since OMD had ten years of shit, five years of wienerteasing undoing OMD, and now current shit again antagonizing the fans who want Peter and MJ back together.
Miles fans have never been more grateful to be alive than right now when they can finally read awesome comics about a Spider-Man that's the same color as them and is going through the same relatable struggles they do, it's incredible and one of the most beautiful achievements in comic history to see a black kid cry from joy reading a Miles comic.
>what problem would that fix
A lot. Easiest being retconning stuff the overwhelming majority of people loathe what Marvel did to its characters.
Spider-Man, Ant-Man, X-Men being just a few to say.
Or retconning events like both civil war and CWII...or OMD.
I'd like that, but they'd speedrun through all the iconic stuff too fast and they wouldn't be able to resist integrating newer shitty concepts and characters into classic Marvel history. I'm thinking shit like glossing over Mar-vell completely in favor of Carol or shoehorning Miles into Peter's life somehow.
They do soft reboots all the time on almost all the titles books that aren’t name x-men. Shit the krakoa era was such a retcon it might as well have been a reboot.
>why would you ever reboot when you can just create a alt universe? It's like having your cake and eating it too unless you frick it up
Because people care.
I care about the mainline Peter Parker as well every Marvel character that got shat on..
They already did, it was called the Ultimate Universe. But they did a really smart thing by letting it exist alongside the classic continuity instead of replacing it, so people who wanted a shiny rebooted universe could enjoy it while people who wanted to stick to the classic could do that as well. You could even read both, imagine that.
When DC did their own Ultimate Universe, called the New52, they actually had it fully replace the old continuity, which just pissed people off.
Honestly hope they do someday the 616 universe is so shit these days I wouldn't mind seeing a full reboot of it.
They will never reboot 616 because what problem would that fix. It would bring in sales for like the first few months but it would only piss off the few readers they still have.
TL;DR Just because you don't like modern comics that doesn't mean everyone else should suffer for it.
>They will never reboot 616 because what problem would that fix.
It would fix lots of problems and I for one think they will reboot 616 someday if I had my way I would make the reboot happen right now.
>Just because you don't like modern comics that doesn't mean everyone else should suffer for it.
Spider-Man fans have been suffering even since OMD happened that's 17 years now buddy it's time for spider-man to be rebooted.
The problem with rebooting Marvel is that, unlike DC, their bread and butter is ongoing serial, soap opera. So if you do a reboot you need to cover ground that’s already been covered ie Dark Phoenix Saga, Death of Gwen Stacy, Elektra Saga, Demon in a Bottle, and so on. The best way to deal with shitty stories is “fresh start” shit ala JMS’s first issue of Spider-Man which felt like a clean break but didn’t reboot the character or anything, just didn’t reference the previous five-six years of stupid bullshit.
Y’know it’s been almost 20 years (frick I’m old) since OMD and it’s still the main topic of conversation anytime someone brings up Amazing Spider-Man. Wally replacing Barry post-Crisis had a similar reaction but the demand for Barry to return pretty well fizzled out after a few years…this has been almost 20. It doesn’t help that immediately after OMD was a ten year run written by a guy who loved to go “nyah nyah nyah MJ and Peter will never be together again!” followed by a run that wiener-teased undoing OMD for a hundred issues only to be followed up by a run where MJ’s hooked up with some doofus who coldwieners a weird, stalkery Peter. If one single story is still the main topic of conversation 20 fricking years later it needs to be addressed.
>thank you for listening to my rambling
>Y’know it’s been almost 20 years (frick I’m old) since OMD and it’s still the main topic of conversation anytime someone brings up Amazing Spider-Man
De-aging Jon kent will be DC’s version forever more in all honesty
I dunno, I really only see a demand for Jon to be de-aged on Cinemaphile whereas the Spidey offices are, to this day, getting letters about OMD. But to be fair DC doesn’t publish fan letters anymore so maybe there is a bigger demand for Jon to be de-aged but I think OMD has it significantly beat in terms of sheer editorial stubbornness with not listening to what fans actually want. But before you jump up my ass I absolutely agree Jon should be de-aged and really should have been done the moment Bendis left.
>I dunno, I really only see a demand for Jon to be de-aged on Cinemaphile
Literally every jon kent post on Twitter is full of demands to bring back kid Jon
Oh. I don’t use Twitter so I was going off instagram/facebook/other message boards/people in life and there OMD is mentioned much more than de-aging Jon.
There's a lot of reasons why OMD will essentially always be a point of contention within Spider-Man
>The premise itself was stupid, Spider-Man would never make a deal with the devil
>It's an easy turning point for when Spider-Man comics definitely went from good to bad (even though there were bad comics beforehand)
>It (or moreso BND) was the point where Peter went from relatable adult to obnoxious manchild
>People like MJ, and as long as they continue to use her in adaptations they will continue to like her, and she's been treated like absolute shit since OMD to keep her and Peter apart
>We've been dickteased about it a few times, with Spencer's run being the most blatant, and Wells's run being the most blatant course correction away from it
That’s all very true. The fact the book took a nose dive in quality for so long after OMD didn’t help matters. Slott can’t write worth a shit and for some bizarre reason had a huge hard-on for antagonizing people over Peter and MJ’s marriage being undone and he had a stranglehold on the book for ten years immediately post-OMD. Like I mentioned before the heat with Wally replacing Barry eventually died down because the book was good, even reaching excellence at times. Amazing Spider-Man since OMD had ten years of shit, five years of wienerteasing undoing OMD, and now current shit again antagonizing the fans who want Peter and MJ back together.
>2007 is 17 years ago now
Miles fans have never been more grateful to be alive than right now when they can finally read awesome comics about a Spider-Man that's the same color as them and is going through the same relatable struggles they do, it's incredible and one of the most beautiful achievements in comic history to see a black kid cry from joy reading a Miles comic.
>what problem would that fix
A lot. Easiest being retconning stuff the overwhelming majority of people loathe what Marvel did to its characters.
Spider-Man, Ant-Man, X-Men being just a few to say.
Or retconning events like both civil war and CWII...or OMD.
I'd like that, but they'd speedrun through all the iconic stuff too fast and they wouldn't be able to resist integrating newer shitty concepts and characters into classic Marvel history. I'm thinking shit like glossing over Mar-vell completely in favor of Carol or shoehorning Miles into Peter's life somehow.
MCU-616 or Marvel Comics-616
they rebooted in 2015 after that awful secret wars 2015
They walked that back and opted for an 8-month time skip instead, but it was still bad enough for me to lose interest in Marvel.
They do soft reboots all the time on almost all the titles books that aren’t name x-men. Shit the krakoa era was such a retcon it might as well have been a reboot.
Isn't that what the Ultimate line was?
why would you ever reboot when you can just create a alt universe? It's like having your cake and eating it too unless you frick it up
>why would you ever reboot when you can just create a alt universe? It's like having your cake and eating it too unless you frick it up
Because people care.
I care about the mainline Peter Parker as well every Marvel character that got shat on..
BND wasn't all bad
It was no fewer than 90% bad
OMD hate confirmation bias.
They already did, it was called the Ultimate Universe. But they did a really smart thing by letting it exist alongside the classic continuity instead of replacing it, so people who wanted a shiny rebooted universe could enjoy it while people who wanted to stick to the classic could do that as well. You could even read both, imagine that.
When DC did their own Ultimate Universe, called the New52, they actually had it fully replace the old continuity, which just pissed people off.