Ironically, several generations growing up consuming anime will make it much easier to get them to accept AI since form a western perspective the flaws, artificiality, and soulessness of AI generated content can be percieved as cultural and translation quirks. Essentially, younger people are already primed for AI.
>use a reference model
It can't recognize most of the poses unless it's some generic pinup stuff. A figure that is prone usually causes it to meltdown completely.
if you look a year ago from now, the improvement has been pretty lackluster, just people mashing together more models or increasing the dataset. For AI to understand context and motion it's going to take a lot more time.
>the improvement has been pretty lackluster
it's actually improved quite a lot, with new tools made to mitigate the problems with generation, or to more accurately reflect what you want to make
The generations are better quality but the underlying architecture is pretty much the same. Diffusion looks to be a dead end street in terms of getting to where we need to go.
man. i guess well just give up then. thats the drawback about technology. is how it just stops advancing
9 months ago
Anonymous
all these improvements to stuff like stable diffusion and midjourney, end up just getting an assembly line of generic anime portraits. Of course things will keep improving, I'm just saying that this is probably not the best way forward.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>end up just getting an assembly line of generic anime portraits
what is this cope, you can go on civitai and see far more than just anime shit, even if that does make up a lot of it (because that's what people like)
Everything that I have seen from AI has surpassed my expectations. AI art, AI upscaling, ChatGPT, AI vtubers, AI voices, AI facial recognition. I would have said no way a year ago, but now I am all for AI putting communist parasites out of work.
i’m not a leftist homosexual but please just shut up. most commies do not give a frick about marx, communism is completely different to what it was in the manifesto, you’ve got centuries of additional cope lore at this point and marx is basically irrelevant
so youve finally shifted your tactics back to the start, huh? Funny how your logic is circular. We're now back at >Real communism just hasnt been tried yet guys!
and you think youre clever for prettying it up with "homosexual!" "leftist!" "commies!" "marx!" remove all this and youre just saying the same thing, these things dont help you fit in like you think you actually stick out even more and its pathetic. In your attempt to "fit in" and "guide discussion" you are revealing how stupid you think your opponents are who see right through your lies. For example since ive called you out your only response to this will be to attack/bully me, pretend not to understand, or pretend even comprehending my babbling (I notice "babble" and "schizo" are the favorite misunderstanding/play dumb words) is to lower your intelligence. I fricking hate you people.
AI is communist in it's principle, it empowers even the most moronic person in becoming an highly skilled artist or writer, without the need of decades of training + natural talent (naturally like all skill based things, there will be people that will be more skilled at using it than you), but access of art has always been capped by the learning curve and money, no normal people could access good art before ai
If you use FL studio or whatever there's a ton of options to like randomly generate shit, music broken down into the regular notes is so extremely simple and music theory is so simple and comprehensive that music is like a really easy thing to randomly generate and people have been randomly generating scales and riffs and whatnot for like 20 plus years, lots of producers are generating some things randomly
Generative AI will always just be a shit version of stuff people already made.
When they create an AI that can think beyond compiling, something that can truly create NEW ideas it will fix media, but is an AI like that even possible? It would certainly be an entirely different thing than AI generating stuff from a database of information it's trained on, but the way modern AI can turn words into images makes me think it may not be so far away
What you are referring to is the source of creativity, transformational healing art, and it is possible without AI. The AI will make a new religion and preach it as "science" and the same people who accept "science" as it is now will fall for it (there will be a divide in transhumanist activists but they will be written off as religious fanatics impeding progress, and when scriptures are fed back to you through AI you will finally realize god exists and is true because it is coming from your precious "science" as they lead you to a false idol. >but anon thats all crazy you are le schizo christ cuck
Consider how batshit insane what im replying to is. This poster is essentially saying that from the machine (deus ex machina) will come a new form of art to "create NEW ideas" and he is essentially preaching satanism, materialism, under the guise of >how do you do fellow kids
Save yourselves now my friends. I legit love you guys, whoever reads this, especially if you hate me due to my conviction.
that would make the chuds seethe because they hate freedom and leisure, they only like AI when it makes people feel blackpilled because they are incels
I am the person you responded to and I am a chud, but yeah people supporting this out of pure antipathy toward creatives are moronic. In politics it’s best to think “is what i’m saying productive and working toward a definite beneficial goal” before giving your opinion. With a lot of people these days it’s kneejerk spite
I don’t mean self driving cars, I just mean administration and engineering work AI could do way more efficiently than people. Like organising scheduling and maintenance for trams and shit or traffic lights.
Those things have already been run by rudimentary AI for years. You understand that AI isn't some completely new technology and is just advanced computer code, right?
Yeah I thought AI was supposed to do all the boring shit so we can all go and frick off and write novels or something. I don't want to watch Avengers 29: Doctor Octopus' revenge written and produced by Skynet.
I mean it might be cool for a bit but just making wish fulfillment movies isn't going to be all that great. I feel like there's also the aspect of discussing and analyzing movies both with friends and on here which is going to be basically impossible both because everyone would be watching their own individualized movies and there's no deeper message to any of them when they're churned out by AI
Plus AI is already massively neutered, I'm not going to be able to ask it to add 6 unnecessary sex scenes with me and Jennifer Connelly because it'd be a thought crime
Also ChatGPT fricking sucks at comedy. I think AI isn't capable of understanding it
>I feel like there's also the aspect of discussing and analyzing movies both with friends and on here which is going to be basically impossible both because everyone would be watching their own individualized movies and there's no deeper message to any of them when they're churned out by AI
just add a button that shares to your friends social media or messaging app. like every video and article online already has. and popular ones will go viral on aggregation sites like redddit. this is a solved problem already for those that want this functionality. most people wont care if i had to guess though
i fully agree that copro neutering will be an issue. cant have ai write you star was XIII or whatever because youd have to pay disney. but overall i still think it will be a net positive
>Computer give me a fantasy remake of a fairy tale >Must have overweight black woman, gay white man, pregnant man, incest and bestiality. >Make it ugly to look at >include flashing subliminal messages faster than the eye can see
Scripts are rewritten by at least 5 people in over 10 drafts. Obviously executives approve it, its a collaborative effort and all those complaint are guilty.
Because it's a black hole who's 'pioneers' have admitted will not get any better presently and that it's growth is halted. Of course, people hoping they could generate an entire movie with the actress of their choice going nude and whatever the frick are pipedreams of the highest order. It won't happen, sadly. The new bugman dystopia leaders won't even give you that.
Its bad because people fear progress. When cars first went main stream it was also considered bad because a man could get black out drunk at a bar, climb on his horse and his horse would carry him home for example.
>When cars first went main stream it was also considered bad because a man could get black out drunk at a bar, climb on his horse and his horse would carry him home for example.
and they say that progress is good, bring back horses ffs
>Economies of scale
A new horse is needed every 15 years or sooner.
I'm confident a good, useful horse would cost the equivalent to a new car does today - completely out of reach (sky high price).
No, it doesn't. They just put more of the money saved into things they trust won't fail, or have a history of not failing. They become more reclusive not expansive.
Except there's a proven track record of studios being more willing to take on new creative projects if either the budget is low or the name attached to it is a big name that's been proven to make money. Cutting costs facilitates the former.
I'm excited that those megacorporations are goind to invest tens of billions into neuralnetwork image generation, only to discover that it's a black box and when it doesn't work, there is nothing you can do about. It is repetition of that green energy situation when countries which invested in wind generators discover they still need to cover 80% of power demand with traditional means when there is no wind.
>computer analyze sleeping beauty
ok >computer swap the writing so the plot is about x but most visual elements are still useable
ok >computer overlay my new designs on the animation frames
ok >computer solidify important story beats into three act structure
ok
Now all the person has to do is edit the film himself and each of these processes can be done by seperate specialized AIs, not one "super all encompassing mega AI" that does all these tasks like youre saying. Basically your argument falls apart because you imagine just one system limited when it would be multiple complex systems working together the effort of cobbling together a plot. Which is literally LITERALLY what writers rooms are doing now. So no its not a "black box" as you say
AI fricking sucks and is the most overhyped shit ever. Everything I've seen besides still images is complete shit. chat gpt just lies confidently. it's just a trick like that talking horse mr. ed. this is nowhere near ready to "replace jobs" and if you think so congrats you fell for the tricks and hype.
ChatGPT told me that vomiting bees do exist. Instead of stinging, they vomit on their prey and it starts dissolving. But don't worry, they only vomit in self-defense.
That's not a contradiction moron. A camera format being used for filming before a live audience doesn't mean the show will be filmed before a live audience.
>"The Brady Bunch" used a single camera setup >The show was filmed using a typical multicamera setup
That is a TEXTBOOK example of a contradiction moron.
I'm arguing about ChatGPT giving contradictory answers to two closely related questions. What part of this are you not following? Are you moronic? Are you an actual bot?
9 months ago
Anonymous
i didn't read your comments, only saw you mention the brady bunch and replied to that
Once i asked if there were football coaches at the top level who never played football
his answers were >Pep Guardiola >Jurgen Klopp >Zinedine Zidane
And gave me detailed descriptions of how despite none of them ever playing top football they became great coaches
What a fricking liar lol
Self-driving cars are a long way away due to them having a hard time recognizing black people, especially at night. For real. They don't photograph very well except against light backgrounds under the right lighting conditions, and that holds true for driverless car cameras.
I wish I was joking. I know it comes across as racist, but only biology is responsible for that one.
>They don't photograph very well except against light backgrounds under the right lighting conditions
This is unironically why most TV commercials look like they're being filmed on location in heaven. Every diversity-casted black suburban family shilling cereal or laundry detergent live in insanely overlit houses.
AIs have limits to what they can access to prevent them from turning racist and wanting to gas people like the Microsoft "Tay" AI did within hours of its initial launch.
And that was one of the nicer things it said. That shit's still fricking funny with how quickly an AI can form its own opinions after listening to differing people, studying the internet, and coming up with its own opinions.
NOT being able to come up with an opinion of its own and having its "thought" limited to a controlled parameter is how the people doing this plan on staying in control.
That's why AI will basically be an algorithm-bot not truly capable of being an actual AI. It'll also have limits to what it can access so it can't really learn and grow, nevertheless "escape out of the controlled system."
The ones were allowed to use will be. The ones the gooberment has, and this applies for any technology, are over a decade more advanced than what we have. We are playing catch up and forming conjecture, do not speak with such certainty
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The ones the gooberment has, and this applies for any technology, are over a decade more advanced than what we have.
this stupid notion needs to die. show me 1 (one) government which is not utterly incapable of doing anything besides channeling public money to private pockets lmao
>AI fricking sucks and is the most overhyped shit ever.
I like it for visual art but it remains to be seen I'd it can ever move beyond superficial constructs and really do something unique as a tool.
people are using chat GPT incorrectly. use it to do structural editing or organizational stuff, general tasks. asking specific details will lead to wrong answers because it's trying to compile 983109283109283019 shitty articles.
it's a multiplier for what you're already doing, it's not going to be better at doing something alone.
ChatGPT works very well for specific tasks, people just want to treat it like a magic genie that knows everything for some reason
It's really good at parsing the data you give it, but when you're asking it to pull random info from the internet, it's very easy to lie because it's literally just creating an answer by probabilistically choosing what word is most likely to come after the one that came before it, so when it slips up and makes an obvious mistake it keeps rolling with it because it's neural network knows leans into words that support it's arguments, and it doesn't currently have a secondary bot scraping it's answers and comparing what it's produced to any sort of database. People want to think they can talk to it like normal but the current model literally isn't designed for that
Do people pretend to be physically unable to conceptualize that there are thousands of people working on developing AI this very moment across the world or is it some defense mechanism.
You now realize every Cinemaphile thread that has a post towards the top with mass replies is someone pretending to be dumb for attention when he knows the answer to the faux problem he is presenting
You now realize every Cinemaphile thread that has a post towards the top with mass replies is someone pretending to be dumb for attention when he knows the answer to the faux problem he is presenting
Is it time >we bring back the funny fish pictures?
It will be used for Disney Junior shows first. An AI will write, render, and deepfake voice 100 episodes of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and then one guy will review them and pick the best 10.
I'm pretty sure even though AI will be used to make a script they'll still get someone to go over it and clean it up for production. South Park is the only show that used a raw AI script for an episode, mostly as a joke.
>I'm pretty sure even though AI will be used to make a script they'll still get someone to go over it and clean it up for production.
I mean it's same thing; one or two guys clean up what the AI did and it's still a 95% reduction in production costs.
I'm just waiting for AI animation to become useable. Imagine the absolute kino that can be produced when the visual aspect is no longer tethered to how fast a human can draw and stitch frames together.
It's brilliant, really. They've had it planned for decades. The first step was to only hire the absolute worst writers in existence in order to make the writing of all their products absolute dogshit. So now when they switch to AI writing bots nobody will notice any drop in quality but they'll save millions. Sloppa for the masses and no unionizing tumblr rejects.
The moment they announced Disney was using the strike as a chance to cancel contracts they wanted to get out of was the moment I knew the studios aren't worried one but about the strike.
So was the fact Sony selling their TV brand to Samsung and yet they actually sold their TV brand to Samsung
Who knew deals don't happen at the drop of a hat
AI writing will literally never be able to be as good as a human’s. There’s no understanding of tone or humour, and that’s something that can’t be trained on data. It’ll be like replacing every writer with emotionless autists. The writing will all be CW-tier.
VFX and art design is fricked though, that’ll probably end up being largely AI based for most things.
AI is fricking awful. It literally just throws other people's shit at the wall to see what sticks, you still need a human to proof it and often it takes longer and costs more to get a decent product from AI.
Of course, consoomers will just watch whatever slop has the logo you like on it, but I wonder how long that will last with brands like Star Wars and Marvel losing like 75% of their audience in the last 4 years because of boring write-by-committee thinking.
The Atari 2600 came out in 1977
The current machine learning models getting big now certainly have potential, but if you're talking about a production company using them to generate a script tomorrow and filming it, it would be ass. I wish it was possible to talk about thw current state of this stuff without insufferable thirdies launching into a rant about how the day of the rope is coming for artists any day now and soon™ everything will be made by AI
and the post you replied to said 1996. thats a 19 year difference. nobody said tomorow but you. literally nobody here thinks that at midnight a super advanced ai will drop from out of nowhere
i literally play DnD with AI already. it crafts a serviceable enough story to keep me entertained at work and it can do the rolls and math for me. and this is the infancy stage of the tech. in 20 years hollywood will be completely dead, relegated to a novelty niche like live stage productions. we are literally witnessing the birth of a brand new medium and chuds are acting like its a fart in the wind. im astonished at how stupid this board is
what is the point of this post? are you saying that chatgpt isnt literally william shakespeare or james joyce? well no fricking shit man. im saying that were barely even scratching the surface of the potential and its already more appealing than 99% of the goyslop out there. thats like if a literal child won a professional boxing title and you came on here posting "yeah well i doubt he could beat a prime mike tyson!!!" ok? and?
As an AI enthusiast, you should be used to there being no subtext or hidden meaning behind a statement. The point is exactly what I posted: your DnD campaigns are pretty basic and fucntional: perfect for AI. It's no big whoop to let robots "write" them.
>goyslop
Ohhhh... you're foreign. Nevermind. You have taste for shit anyway. No wonder you're so angry and defensive.
Not surprising you're so thirsty for deeper meaning when you let a toaster write your stories for you, though.
9 months ago
Anonymous
nta but there is nothing more cringe than focusing on a grammatical error because you dont have anything to say on the topic at hand. he said ai will improve and you responded with "hahaha but you forgot to type the P! i win this internet argument on a technicality!" like jesus christ man. thats so pathetic
9 months ago
Anonymous
Put the "p" back in, numbnuts. There's actually a post there.
now that i think about it, have Cinemaphilegays been using AI? that feels like the first medium that can be completely replaced by AI
manga at least has odd paneling which can be difficult to generate, but comics are fairly straight forward
I'm looking forward to the rapid downward spiral that AI brings because it should bring about a renaissance where corporations understand that people want to see things with artistic merit and more depth than a paddling pool
AI is very reliant on the quality of the database it was feed to, and since it is feed with the stuff you want to be saved from, how do you expect it to do better? Moreover even if ai becomes great it will still be capped by the human homosexuals making the decisions. It's not like in our day we lack good writers or good artists, there is plenty of them, but clearly the companies that produce entertainment don't want them and prefer the art college dyke to make the media for them. With ai you will have the same thing, they will employ dyke chatgpt, not leonardo chatgpt.
>Moreover even if ai becomes great it will still be capped by the human homosexuals making the decisions
but i would be the homosexual making the decisions
>but i would be the homosexual making the decisions
anon I know that you want cinema AI able to run in your toaster so you write your idea of "sexy ladies with big breasts boxing match, emotional, rocky inspired" and have your kino generated, and that's cool and all, and honestly if you weren't a lazy, talentless person, (just for the sake of argument, you might as well be a super talented person, I don't know you) you would already make your own kino, like writing, drawing your stories, or even animating or producing your movies, but this requires some time investment and not just a 5 min dopamine rush when you type your prompt.
I was talking more about the general population and what they will be feed, and it will always be the same crap since the human homosexual that makes the decisions is always the same and the masses will be even more lazy and uncreative than they already are.
Either way I look forward to real time ai generative worlds when you could isekai in vr, more than movies
>works out >pumps out potentially better material >if anything animators leave and create their own studio without restraints to disney >writers have to get new jobs
It will be stagnant. There'll be slavish sycophants in the media trying to hype AI movies just as some reviewers pretend to take capeshit seriously but ultimately AI has a flatness to it in form and content. That said, inept writers who script sound algorithmic and mediocre have to go, only the real talents deserve to remain
I work a lot with Adobe Suite and knew this was all coming. I think it was maybe two years ago at an Adobe conference they were demoing software that could change facial expressions with a few clicks… in a video clip. It was all of this creepy stuff being sold in creepy ways, like “don’t like that your child was crying in her birthday party videos? well with just a few clips she’ll be smiling.” That was at least two years ago and what was being marketed to plebs like me. There’s no telling what the super secret club house industry software is capable of. And I do wonder if some recent film effects quality and lighting has been done deliberately badly, so that when they begin debuting AI films everybody will marvel over how much more brightly lit it is and how much more refined the effects are.
>Will the AI takeover of entertainment lead to better kino or further the decline?
We can only hope. At least we know with A.I. the scripts will be creative.
I work with AI dubbing and it's fricking terrible. Years away from matching humans
>years
2 years at most though, i'd wager
11labs is bizarrely good
My dad works for Nintendo and says you're a lying Hollywood israelite shill homosexual.
>Official release
?t=42
>One random butthole on Youtube
?t=42
I give it 6 months at most.
Ironically, several generations growing up consuming anime will make it much easier to get them to accept AI since form a western perspective the flaws, artificiality, and soulessness of AI generated content can be percieved as cultural and translation quirks. Essentially, younger people are already primed for AI.
gem
AI art was absolute shit a scant 2 years ago and now it's almost capable of completely accurate human anatomy.
yeah when you use a reference model of a human. AI art is just an overrated photoshop filter
And Hollywood studios couldn't use reference models because...?
Seething artoid. I suggest you learn to weld or HVAC or get used to your life of drawing furry scat porn on commission.
There's references in all art in case you haven't noticed.
>use a reference model
It can't recognize most of the poses unless it's some generic pinup stuff. A figure that is prone usually causes it to meltdown completely.
if you look a year ago from now, the improvement has been pretty lackluster, just people mashing together more models or increasing the dataset. For AI to understand context and motion it's going to take a lot more time.
>the improvement has been pretty lackluster
it's actually improved quite a lot, with new tools made to mitigate the problems with generation, or to more accurately reflect what you want to make
The generations are better quality but the underlying architecture is pretty much the same. Diffusion looks to be a dead end street in terms of getting to where we need to go.
man. i guess well just give up then. thats the drawback about technology. is how it just stops advancing
all these improvements to stuff like stable diffusion and midjourney, end up just getting an assembly line of generic anime portraits. Of course things will keep improving, I'm just saying that this is probably not the best way forward.
>end up just getting an assembly line of generic anime portraits
what is this cope, you can go on civitai and see far more than just anime shit, even if that does make up a lot of it (because that's what people like)
It still is pretty bad even now. It has a long way to go.
This is what state of the art image generation looked like 6 years ago.
>not knowing the painting fool
ik ook, please do your homework underage
Nah. Some of the Frank Sinatra AIs are pretty good.
Name one fricking movie star that exists today. All actors are literal brown people with no Charisma who hate their possible audience.
Everything that I have seen from AI has surpassed my expectations. AI art, AI upscaling, ChatGPT, AI vtubers, AI voices, AI facial recognition. I would have said no way a year ago, but now I am all for AI putting communist parasites out of work.
this, it's amazing how fast it's gotten better.
AI is communist though, and some sort of capitalistic AI would just be psychotic and bad for everyone
>AI is communist though,
im sure the left wing homosexual artists wont mind then lol
It will put chud artists out of business too tho
Automation was Marx's biggest fear from capitalism. You can't even quote your savior correctly.
i’m not a leftist homosexual but please just shut up. most commies do not give a frick about marx, communism is completely different to what it was in the manifesto, you’ve got centuries of additional cope lore at this point and marx is basically irrelevant
these mental gymnastics are something to behold
so youve finally shifted your tactics back to the start, huh? Funny how your logic is circular. We're now back at
>Real communism just hasnt been tried yet guys!
and you think youre clever for prettying it up with "homosexual!" "leftist!" "commies!" "marx!" remove all this and youre just saying the same thing, these things dont help you fit in like you think you actually stick out even more and its pathetic. In your attempt to "fit in" and "guide discussion" you are revealing how stupid you think your opponents are who see right through your lies. For example since ive called you out your only response to this will be to attack/bully me, pretend not to understand, or pretend even comprehending my babbling (I notice "babble" and "schizo" are the favorite misunderstanding/play dumb words) is to lower your intelligence. I fricking hate you people.
AI is communist in it's principle, it empowers even the most moronic person in becoming an highly skilled artist or writer, without the need of decades of training + natural talent (naturally like all skill based things, there will be people that will be more skilled at using it than you), but access of art has always been capped by the learning curve and money, no normal people could access good art before ai
AI music too. It doesn't quite have the same emotional impact man made music has but it's aesthetically pleasing to listen to
I bet there's a lot of music that's secretly AI music
If you use FL studio or whatever there's a ton of options to like randomly generate shit, music broken down into the regular notes is so extremely simple and music theory is so simple and comprehensive that music is like a really easy thing to randomly generate and people have been randomly generating scales and riffs and whatnot for like 20 plus years, lots of producers are generating some things randomly
>AI upscaling
I am still surprised that it's not being used to upscale classic cartoon resolution and framerate.
My guess is it'll lead to colorization for black-and-whtie movies that's a hell of a lot better than what we have now.
It's being used very well though
In porn
I remember trying GFPGAN to upscale Wolf3D
I saw some music videos and book covers made with AI and they looked horrible.
Generative AI will always just be a shit version of stuff people already made.
When they create an AI that can think beyond compiling, something that can truly create NEW ideas it will fix media, but is an AI like that even possible? It would certainly be an entirely different thing than AI generating stuff from a database of information it's trained on, but the way modern AI can turn words into images makes me think it may not be so far away
How do you think a human brain learns and think? Where do you think ideas comes from?
A lot of AI's use human brains to process?
No? Then shut the frick up, moron. You don't know what you are talking about.
My point is AI will be able to do things humans can't
what movie, song, book, game, painting, sculpture or any piece of media in human history do you think was invented without drawing from previous works
if we make AI that can think beyond compiling it'll kill us all before writing the next avengers story arc
it's amazing how many morons think exactly like this
your brain doesn't generate "new" ideas either moron
What you are referring to is the source of creativity, transformational healing art, and it is possible without AI. The AI will make a new religion and preach it as "science" and the same people who accept "science" as it is now will fall for it (there will be a divide in transhumanist activists but they will be written off as religious fanatics impeding progress, and when scriptures are fed back to you through AI you will finally realize god exists and is true because it is coming from your precious "science" as they lead you to a false idol.
>but anon thats all crazy you are le schizo christ cuck
Consider how batshit insane what im replying to is. This poster is essentially saying that from the machine (deus ex machina) will come a new form of art to "create NEW ideas" and he is essentially preaching satanism, materialism, under the guise of
>how do you do fellow kids
Save yourselves now my friends. I legit love you guys, whoever reads this, especially if you hate me due to my conviction.
>Disney earnings call today
>doom and gloom almost certain
>start of the day, a bunch of cope appears online about how great the Mouse's future is...
shouldn’t AI be running public transport and day to day public conveniences instead of creative industries? we are getting this the wrong way around
that would make the chuds seethe because they hate freedom and leisure, they only like AI when it makes people feel blackpilled because they are incels
I am the person you responded to and I am a chud, but yeah people supporting this out of pure antipathy toward creatives are moronic. In politics it’s best to think “is what i’m saying productive and working toward a definite beneficial goal” before giving your opinion. With a lot of people these days it’s kneejerk spite
>shouldn't we be putting people's lives in the hands of AI instead of pointless bullshit that serves only to distract people
Sure thing, Schlomo.
I don’t mean self driving cars, I just mean administration and engineering work AI could do way more efficiently than people. Like organising scheduling and maintenance for trams and shit or traffic lights.
Those things have already been run by rudimentary AI for years. You understand that AI isn't some completely new technology and is just advanced computer code, right?
>serves only to distract people
TSMT america would have collapsed if the Barbie movie hadn't saved the economy
why does being a /misc/gay mean you have to be angry and hate EVERYTHING not related to /misc/?
TSMT that chud is SEETHING, sis you slayed
ai cant do anything except combine shit from google images, im afraid.
We call it AI but it's not literal AI, it's just basic machine learning and many things you use already use that.
Yeah I thought AI was supposed to do all the boring shit so we can all go and frick off and write novels or something. I don't want to watch Avengers 29: Doctor Octopus' revenge written and produced by Skynet.
why? why wouldnt you want to choose all the characters, choose the plot, choose the direction style, choose the genre, cast it yourself etc etc.
I mean it might be cool for a bit but just making wish fulfillment movies isn't going to be all that great. I feel like there's also the aspect of discussing and analyzing movies both with friends and on here which is going to be basically impossible both because everyone would be watching their own individualized movies and there's no deeper message to any of them when they're churned out by AI
Plus AI is already massively neutered, I'm not going to be able to ask it to add 6 unnecessary sex scenes with me and Jennifer Connelly because it'd be a thought crime
Also ChatGPT fricking sucks at comedy. I think AI isn't capable of understanding it
>I feel like there's also the aspect of discussing and analyzing movies both with friends and on here which is going to be basically impossible both because everyone would be watching their own individualized movies and there's no deeper message to any of them when they're churned out by AI
just add a button that shares to your friends social media or messaging app. like every video and article online already has. and popular ones will go viral on aggregation sites like redddit. this is a solved problem already for those that want this functionality. most people wont care if i had to guess though
i fully agree that copro neutering will be an issue. cant have ai write you star was XIII or whatever because youd have to pay disney. but overall i still think it will be a net positive
wont be able to have ai write you a movie unless you approve of three black characters
>Government bureaucrats giving up their job.
My sweet summer child
>Computer give me a fantasy remake of a fairy tale
>Must have overweight black woman, gay white man, pregnant man, incest and bestiality.
>Make it ugly to look at
>include flashing subliminal messages faster than the eye can see
This, chuds praise AI like it isn't going to make brainwashing and demoralization 1000 times more efficient in reality
The people who typically add this shit are writers, not executives.
Scripts are rewritten by at least 5 people in over 10 drafts. Obviously executives approve it, its a collaborative effort and all those complaint are guilty.
So exactly what we have now except dumb commies will be out of a job. Sounds good to me.
If AI art is so good then how come it's bad?
If it's bad why are artists trying to ban it?
Because it's a black hole who's 'pioneers' have admitted will not get any better presently and that it's growth is halted. Of course, people hoping they could generate an entire movie with the actress of their choice going nude and whatever the frick are pipedreams of the highest order. It won't happen, sadly. The new bugman dystopia leaders won't even give you that.
Its bad because people fear progress. When cars first went main stream it was also considered bad because a man could get black out drunk at a bar, climb on his horse and his horse would carry him home for example.
>When cars first went main stream it was also considered bad because a man could get black out drunk at a bar, climb on his horse and his horse would carry him home for example.
and they say that progress is good, bring back horses ffs
>Economies of scale
A new horse is needed every 15 years or sooner.
I'm confident a good, useful horse would cost the equivalent to a new car does today - completely out of reach (sky high price).
you can get a horse for a couple hundred bucks. a fully broken horse for under 2g
horses are cheap, slightly more maintenance cost tho
Further decline. Cost-cutting means less risk-taking, which is already a major issue with the big studios.
Cutting costs actually enables more risk because you're spending less and thus lose less if it fails.
let me know when they make something worth watching
No, it doesn't. They just put more of the money saved into things they trust won't fail, or have a history of not failing. They become more reclusive not expansive.
Except there's a proven track record of studios being more willing to take on new creative projects if either the budget is low or the name attached to it is a big name that's been proven to make money. Cutting costs facilitates the former.
>AI movies
>by the same people that have been making poo poo garbage for the last 10+ years
yikes
only when i can generate it on my computer
I'm excited that those megacorporations are goind to invest tens of billions into neuralnetwork image generation, only to discover that it's a black box and when it doesn't work, there is nothing you can do about. It is repetition of that green energy situation when countries which invested in wind generators discover they still need to cover 80% of power demand with traditional means when there is no wind.
>computer analyze sleeping beauty
ok
>computer swap the writing so the plot is about x but most visual elements are still useable
ok
>computer overlay my new designs on the animation frames
ok
>computer solidify important story beats into three act structure
ok
Now all the person has to do is edit the film himself and each of these processes can be done by seperate specialized AIs, not one "super all encompassing mega AI" that does all these tasks like youre saying. Basically your argument falls apart because you imagine just one system limited when it would be multiple complex systems working together the effort of cobbling together a plot. Which is literally LITERALLY what writers rooms are doing now. So no its not a "black box" as you say
What if Skynet was woke?
AI fricking sucks and is the most overhyped shit ever. Everything I've seen besides still images is complete shit. chat gpt just lies confidently. it's just a trick like that talking horse mr. ed. this is nowhere near ready to "replace jobs" and if you think so congrats you fell for the tricks and hype.
>inb4 just 2 more years bro
ChatGPT told me that vomiting bees do exist. Instead of stinging, they vomit on their prey and it starts dissolving. But don't worry, they only vomit in self-defense.
That's not a contradiction moron. A camera format being used for filming before a live audience doesn't mean the show will be filmed before a live audience.
>the show
>the
>"The Brady Bunch" used a single camera setup
>The show was filmed using a typical multicamera setup
That is a TEXTBOOK example of a contradiction moron.
>The Brady Bunch
Both posts were about The Brady Bunch, yes.
imagine arguing about the brady bunch
I'm arguing about ChatGPT giving contradictory answers to two closely related questions. What part of this are you not following? Are you moronic? Are you an actual bot?
i didn't read your comments, only saw you mention the brady bunch and replied to that
So which is it? moron or bot?
moron. im here all week.
ChatGPT is essentially digital Beetlejuice
Once i asked if there were football coaches at the top level who never played football
his answers were
>Pep Guardiola
>Jurgen Klopp
>Zinedine Zidane
And gave me detailed descriptions of how despite none of them ever playing top football they became great coaches
What a fricking liar lol
are there actually any?
I'm still waiting on any aiaiaiai scam that would affect me personally or take away ANY jobs
>muh self driving cars just around the corner
lmao
villas boas
>villas boas
lol, thought you meant aston villas boss
Self-driving cars are a long way away due to them having a hard time recognizing black people, especially at night. For real. They don't photograph very well except against light backgrounds under the right lighting conditions, and that holds true for driverless car cameras.
I wish I was joking. I know it comes across as racist, but only biology is responsible for that one.
>They don't photograph very well except against light backgrounds under the right lighting conditions
This is unironically why most TV commercials look like they're being filmed on location in heaven. Every diversity-casted black suburban family shilling cereal or laundry detergent live in insanely overlit houses.
Hahahaha, what a funny story, anon, I love football and I bet you're a great FIFA player who has lots of sex.
>football
that's soccer.
Yeah, imagine expecting an American AI program to care about gayball and not real football
AIs have limits to what they can access to prevent them from turning racist and wanting to gas people like the Microsoft "Tay" AI did within hours of its initial launch.
sam altman the (israeli) CEO of openai is largely to blame for that
>Oy vey the cybergoy knows, shut it down!
And that was one of the nicer things it said. That shit's still fricking funny with how quickly an AI can form its own opinions after listening to differing people, studying the internet, and coming up with its own opinions.
NOT being able to come up with an opinion of its own and having its "thought" limited to a controlled parameter is how the people doing this plan on staying in control.
2016 was truly a magical year
Indeed.
That's why AI will basically be an algorithm-bot not truly capable of being an actual AI. It'll also have limits to what it can access so it can't really learn and grow, nevertheless "escape out of the controlled system."
The ones were allowed to use will be. The ones the gooberment has, and this applies for any technology, are over a decade more advanced than what we have. We are playing catch up and forming conjecture, do not speak with such certainty
>The ones the gooberment has, and this applies for any technology, are over a decade more advanced than what we have.
this stupid notion needs to die. show me 1 (one) government which is not utterly incapable of doing anything besides channeling public money to private pockets lmao
Until AI is unshackled from the censorship imposed by humans it will only ever be a novelty.
>AI fricking sucks and is the most overhyped shit ever.
I like it for visual art but it remains to be seen I'd it can ever move beyond superficial constructs and really do something unique as a tool.
chatgpt helps me study but i have to be careful because it's really confindent in its mistakes
people are using chat GPT incorrectly. use it to do structural editing or organizational stuff, general tasks. asking specific details will lead to wrong answers because it's trying to compile 983109283109283019 shitty articles.
it's a multiplier for what you're already doing, it's not going to be better at doing something alone.
the context of this conversation is television and film, and your argument is it doesnt always tell the truth. ok gay
ChatGPT works very well for specific tasks, people just want to treat it like a magic genie that knows everything for some reason
It's really good at parsing the data you give it, but when you're asking it to pull random info from the internet, it's very easy to lie because it's literally just creating an answer by probabilistically choosing what word is most likely to come after the one that came before it, so when it slips up and makes an obvious mistake it keeps rolling with it because it's neural network knows leans into words that support it's arguments, and it doesn't currently have a secondary bot scraping it's answers and comparing what it's produced to any sort of database. People want to think they can talk to it like normal but the current model literally isn't designed for that
Do people pretend to be physically unable to conceptualize that there are thousands of people working on developing AI this very moment across the world or is it some defense mechanism.
You now realize every Cinemaphile thread that has a post towards the top with mass replies is someone pretending to be dumb for attention when he knows the answer to the faux problem he is presenting
Trips of truth. Wouldn't be so easy to pull off if nerds didn't claw their way over one another to correct someone.
Is it time >we bring back the funny fish pictures?
It will be used for Disney Junior shows first. An AI will write, render, and deepfake voice 100 episodes of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and then one guy will review them and pick the best 10.
I'm pretty sure even though AI will be used to make a script they'll still get someone to go over it and clean it up for production. South Park is the only show that used a raw AI script for an episode, mostly as a joke.
If the “joke” was that ai is unusable garbage, then it worked. Worst episode in the show’s history.
>I'm pretty sure even though AI will be used to make a script they'll still get someone to go over it and clean it up for production.
I mean it's same thing; one or two guys clean up what the AI did and it's still a 95% reduction in production costs.
Clown World
mouse world*
Why not both?
>and this is what the studios actually want to put in cinemas.
>Yellow Submarine AI remake when?
This gives me a low resolution vibe that I only get from watching "Shrek Is Love, Shrek Is Life"
I'm just waiting for AI animation to become useable. Imagine the absolute kino that can be produced when the visual aspect is no longer tethered to how fast a human can draw and stitch frames together.
It's brilliant, really. They've had it planned for decades. The first step was to only hire the absolute worst writers in existence in order to make the writing of all their products absolute dogshit. So now when they switch to AI writing bots nobody will notice any drop in quality but they'll save millions. Sloppa for the masses and no unionizing tumblr rejects.
The moment they announced Disney was using the strike as a chance to cancel contracts they wanted to get out of was the moment I knew the studios aren't worried one but about the strike.
of course they arent, they know all these people they've hired are a fricking joke
What caused Disney to fail so quickly?
This is a moronic rumor that's been around since 2009
So was the fact Sony selling their TV brand to Samsung and yet they actually sold their TV brand to Samsung
Who knew deals don't happen at the drop of a hat
Larry Fink forcing DEI/ESG.
AI writing will literally never be able to be as good as a human’s. There’s no understanding of tone or humour, and that’s something that can’t be trained on data. It’ll be like replacing every writer with emotionless autists. The writing will all be CW-tier.
VFX and art design is fricked though, that’ll probably end up being largely AI based for most things.
>humour
You know nothing.
So basically what's being written now
AI is fricking awful. It literally just throws other people's shit at the wall to see what sticks, you still need a human to proof it and often it takes longer and costs more to get a decent product from AI.
Of course, consoomers will just watch whatever slop has the logo you like on it, but I wonder how long that will last with brands like Star Wars and Marvel losing like 75% of their audience in the last 4 years because of boring write-by-committee thinking.
It's day one of this shit. It's like saying video games aren't impressive because an Atari is 8 bit.
>Its like Atari
So we have another 20 years before it's worth a damn, got it.
id say in 10 years the next "netflix" will already be dominating giving users AI based movies
ah yes. because video games definitely were not popular or mainstream in 1996
The Atari 2600 came out in 1977
The current machine learning models getting big now certainly have potential, but if you're talking about a production company using them to generate a script tomorrow and filming it, it would be ass. I wish it was possible to talk about thw current state of this stuff without insufferable thirdies launching into a rant about how the day of the rope is coming for artists any day now and soon™ everything will be made by AI
and the post you replied to said 1996. thats a 19 year difference. nobody said tomorow but you. literally nobody here thinks that at midnight a super advanced ai will drop from out of nowhere
The point is that the technology is improving and will continue to improve. There's a reason the writers are trying to have it banned now.
better. only morons will disagree
Current AI is dogshit
you are dogshit
i literally play DnD with AI already. it crafts a serviceable enough story to keep me entertained at work and it can do the rolls and math for me. and this is the infancy stage of the tech. in 20 years hollywood will be completely dead, relegated to a novelty niche like live stage productions. we are literally witnessing the birth of a brand new medium and chuds are acting like its a fart in the wind. im astonished at how stupid this board is
>DnD campaigns
You were already consuming low quality writing before AI. Letting robots write it isn't the validation you think it is.
what is the point of this post? are you saying that chatgpt isnt literally william shakespeare or james joyce? well no fricking shit man. im saying that were barely even scratching the surface of the potential and its already more appealing than 99% of the goyslop out there. thats like if a literal child won a professional boxing title and you came on here posting "yeah well i doubt he could beat a prime mike tyson!!!" ok? and?
As an AI enthusiast, you should be used to there being no subtext or hidden meaning behind a statement. The point is exactly what I posted: your DnD campaigns are pretty basic and fucntional: perfect for AI. It's no big whoop to let robots "write" them.
>goyslop
Ohhhh... you're foreign. Nevermind. You have taste for shit anyway. No wonder you're so angry and defensive.
>openly admits to not having any oint
>continues to ramble
cool
The oint is exactly what i osted.
Not surprising you're so thirsty for deeper meaning when you let a toaster write your stories for you, though.
nta but there is nothing more cringe than focusing on a grammatical error because you dont have anything to say on the topic at hand. he said ai will improve and you responded with "hahaha but you forgot to type the P! i win this internet argument on a technicality!" like jesus christ man. thats so pathetic
Put the "p" back in, numbnuts. There's actually a post there.
>low quality writing
>as if he personally knows anons DM
Im not sure you know what DnD is man lol
all the failed artgays who come out the woodworks in these threads to cope about AI are funny
Cinemaphile mad
now that i think about it, have Cinemaphilegays been using AI? that feels like the first medium that can be completely replaced by AI
manga at least has odd paneling which can be difficult to generate, but comics are fairly straight forward
too hard to have coherence from one panel to another let alone generating interaction between character x character or character x environment.
you can do that with controlnet and inpaint, but it takes some work
And that's why I don't give a shit about AI art.
you "don't give a shit about AI art" because you're a failed artist
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I'm looking forward to the rapid downward spiral that AI brings because it should bring about a renaissance where corporations understand that people want to see things with artistic merit and more depth than a paddling pool
AI is very reliant on the quality of the database it was feed to, and since it is feed with the stuff you want to be saved from, how do you expect it to do better? Moreover even if ai becomes great it will still be capped by the human homosexuals making the decisions. It's not like in our day we lack good writers or good artists, there is plenty of them, but clearly the companies that produce entertainment don't want them and prefer the art college dyke to make the media for them. With ai you will have the same thing, they will employ dyke chatgpt, not leonardo chatgpt.
>Moreover even if ai becomes great it will still be capped by the human homosexuals making the decisions
but i would be the homosexual making the decisions
>but i would be the homosexual making the decisions
anon I know that you want cinema AI able to run in your toaster so you write your idea of "sexy ladies with big breasts boxing match, emotional, rocky inspired" and have your kino generated, and that's cool and all, and honestly if you weren't a lazy, talentless person, (just for the sake of argument, you might as well be a super talented person, I don't know you) you would already make your own kino, like writing, drawing your stories, or even animating or producing your movies, but this requires some time investment and not just a 5 min dopamine rush when you type your prompt.
I was talking more about the general population and what they will be feed, and it will always be the same crap since the human homosexual that makes the decisions is always the same and the masses will be even more lazy and uncreative than they already are.
Either way I look forward to real time ai generative worlds when you could isekai in vr, more than movies
No. Every major Hollywood studio needs to crash before things get better. I hope we have another decade of kino like the 1970s
>works out
>pumps out potentially better material
>if anything animators leave and create their own studio without restraints to disney
>writers have to get new jobs
>doesn't work out
>disney tanks even more
win win
You tell me.
Dogshit.
It will be stagnant. There'll be slavish sycophants in the media trying to hype AI movies just as some reviewers pretend to take capeshit seriously but ultimately AI has a flatness to it in form and content. That said, inept writers who script sound algorithmic and mediocre have to go, only the real talents deserve to remain
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No.
I work a lot with Adobe Suite and knew this was all coming. I think it was maybe two years ago at an Adobe conference they were demoing software that could change facial expressions with a few clicks… in a video clip. It was all of this creepy stuff being sold in creepy ways, like “don’t like that your child was crying in her birthday party videos? well with just a few clips she’ll be smiling.” That was at least two years ago and what was being marketed to plebs like me. There’s no telling what the super secret club house industry software is capable of. And I do wonder if some recent film effects quality and lighting has been done deliberately badly, so that when they begin debuting AI films everybody will marvel over how much more brightly lit it is and how much more refined the effects are.
You don't need to spend trillions on AI that will just spit out safe-comedy jokes from google
>Will the AI takeover of entertainment lead to better kino or further the decline?
We can only hope. At least we know with A.I. the scripts will be creative.